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post Aug 14 2019, 07:35 PM, updated 4 months ago

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1. No more called Khat. But now called pengenalan Jawi.

2. Lessons will continue but teaching in vernacular schools is no longer decided by teachers but by the PIBG decision.

3. Teaching in all national schools is compulsory.

4. It will still be in the BM text book for all students

5. Voluntary roll out for standard 4 students next year, standard 5 students in 2021 and standard six in 2022. (not sure what this means? Means 3 years of Jawi?)

What you think?

Gooding or no gooding?


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post Aug 14 2019, 07:37 PM

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Hahahahah
mamakthir folded....

Pondan.. no respect for you matida....
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post Aug 14 2019, 07:38 PM

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post Aug 14 2019, 07:39 PM

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TDMATIDA is just a DAP puppet...
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post Aug 14 2019, 07:39 PM

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post Aug 14 2019, 07:40 PM

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So national schools kena jawi.
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Eh...mana pergi kuasa thanos ni
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post Aug 14 2019, 07:41 PM

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i say keep pressing on this lets see them fold even more
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post Aug 14 2019, 07:41 PM

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post Aug 14 2019, 07:41 PM

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Personally, I don't think there is much change from the last change where the teachers decided whether and how to teach. Now it is PIBG to decide.

Also, it means that all kids in national schools have to learn it for 3 years straight beginning next year.
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post Aug 14 2019, 07:41 PM

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I don't know about the UMNO - PAS cais, but I suggest for those of us who still want to see a PH government after GE15, we better get our asses behind this compromise.

Because it has been a major compromise already. And there are bigger, tougher, more important issues for the government to tackle. Let's not distract them with this petty nonsense and issue.

If still cannot accept... then I say we all go out and vote en masse for UMNO - PAS in GE15 and then get the popcorn and alcohol ready to watch the country self destruct by 2025. Fine by me either way I guess... *shrug*
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post Aug 14 2019, 07:43 PM

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This unfortunately means more Chinese and Indian parents will unlikely be sending their kids national schools.
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post Aug 14 2019, 07:45 PM

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Don't care. After vote ph to bring down najib, I will vote umno pas for ge15.
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post Aug 14 2019, 07:45 PM

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Nanti dong zong still tak puas hati

And semua pon bising balik lol
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post Aug 14 2019, 07:47 PM

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QUOTE(TheBornLoser @ Aug 14 2019, 11:41 AM)
I don't know about the UMNO - PAS cais, but I suggest for those of us who still want to see a PH government after GE15, we better get our asses behind this compromise.

Because it has been a major compromise already. And there are bigger, tougher, more important issues for the government to tackle. Let's not distract them with this petty nonsense and issue.

If still cannot accept... then I say we all go out and vote en masse for UMNO - PAS in GE15 and then get the popcorn and alcohol ready to watch the country self destruct by 2025. Fine by me either way I guess... *shrug*
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Rock and a hard place.

An interesting situation. I cant wait till GE15 comes along.
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post Aug 14 2019, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(AircondSejuk @ Aug 14 2019, 07:45 PM)
Don't care. After vote ph to bring down najib, I will vote umno pas for ge15.
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post Aug 14 2019, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(azhan82 @ Aug 14 2019, 07:37 PM)
Hahahahah
mamakthir folded....

Pondan.. no respect for you matida....
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Why I got the feeling that Dr.M is portraying himself as the villain, and the other menteris "against" him is all an act?
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post Aug 14 2019, 07:50 PM

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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Aug 14 2019, 07:49 PM)
Why I got the feeling that Dr.M is portraying himself as the villain, and the other menteris "against" him is all an act?
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villain to chinese?
come on... dont be stupid..
He believes in jawi.. just that his cabinet is making the decision now.. and its filled with Dong Zong bootlickers..
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PIBG decision? Only PIBG full of M&M parents will agree to this. It will simply drove more non away from malay centric schools and malay from non centric school. Like wtf is Maszlee doing???? This guy almost same level as Zakar Naik.

Just drop Jawi already.
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post Aug 14 2019, 07:59 PM

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why no khat jawi... it is goodingz... what a waste
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post Aug 14 2019, 08:00 PM

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QUOTE(azhan82 @ Aug 14 2019, 07:37 PM)
Hahahahah
mamakthir folded....

Pondan.. no respect for you matida....
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Folded what? Tell me?
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post Aug 14 2019, 08:00 PM

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why no fully withdraw ???...
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post Aug 14 2019, 08:00 PM

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why no fully withdraw ???...
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post Aug 14 2019, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Aug 14 2019, 08:00 PM)
why no fully withdraw ???...
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post Aug 14 2019, 08:01 PM

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What ever lar.... Last time change maths science debate English not BM, now jawi. Later some school introduce learn Jap or Spanish, Portuguese.
Really rojak.... I just don't get is why doesn't make it last times. Again our education had more important things to improve and yet resources and time spend on others things.
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post Aug 14 2019, 08:01 PM

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pengenalan Jawi sounds a lot more digestible than just khat
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post Aug 14 2019, 08:02 PM

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QUOTE(Big Balls Jackson @ Aug 14 2019, 08:01 PM)
pengenalan Jawi  sounds a lot more digestible than just khat
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Which actually makes bullshit the previous argument that this is art, not Jawi.
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post Aug 14 2019, 08:03 PM

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M might flooded to sjk becoz themselves dont1 learn it too . Nex jawi drop becoz sk students become lesser icon_idea.gif

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post Aug 14 2019, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(AircondSejuk @ Aug 14 2019, 07:45 PM)
Don't care. After vote ph to bring down najib, I will vote umno pas for ge15.
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BRING HIM DOWN TO BRING HIM BACK AGAIN thumbsup.gif LPPL
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post Aug 14 2019, 08:03 PM

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3 years of Jawi?

laugh.gif sure later Frorm 1 till 5. After ge 15, implemented.
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post Aug 14 2019, 08:05 PM

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QUOTE(mcko @ Aug 14 2019, 08:03 PM)
BRING HIM DOWN TO BRING HIM BACK AGAIN  thumbsup.gif LPPL
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Malaysians used to that.

Last time reformasi save Malaysia was to bring down Mahathir.

then become reformasi save Malaysia by bringing back Mahathir in GE14.
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honestly

this khat thing is just a ruse , ploy wayang

to gain votes

dont think they really care if it implement or not
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post Aug 14 2019, 08:08 PM

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QUOTE(damonlbs @ Aug 14 2019, 08:06 PM)
honestly

this khat thing is just a ruse , ploy wayang

to gain votes

dont think they really care if it implement or not
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some1 w sense
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QUOTE(azhan82 @ Aug 14 2019, 07:51 PM)
villain to chinese?
come on... dont be stupid..
He believes in jawi.. just that his cabinet is making the decision now.. and its filled with Dong Zong bootlickers..
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No, not just this..... on the Zakir Naik issue also. It seems that he is using the "kill millions to save billions" technique to unite Malaysians more.
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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Aug 14 2019, 08:12 PM)
No, not just this..... on the Zakir Naik issue also. It seems that he is using the "kill millions to save billions" technique to unite Malaysians more.
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what unite malaysia..?
now Malay see him as a DAP stooge...

Even i wont vote him anymore, and I'm a party member...
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QUOTE(AircondSejuk @ Aug 14 2019, 07:45 PM)
Don't care. After vote ph to bring down najib, I will vote umno pas for ge15.
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Keep u-turn 99 , fk ph, can't even make 1 decision wisely.
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QUOTE(azhan82 @ Aug 14 2019, 08:14 PM)
what unite malaysia..?
now Malay see him as a DAP stooge...

Even i wont vote him anymore, and I'm a party member...
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why you want to compel other to learn something that could be optional?
the rational would be as seni instead of compulsory?

rather instead make bahasa malaysia a compulsory subject this i support

its such useful when im in middle east to do private chat eith fellow countrymen
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QUOTE(ed1torz @ Aug 14 2019, 08:16 PM)
why you want to compel other to learn something that could be optional?
the rational would be as seni instead of compulsory?

rather instead make bahasa malaysia a compulsory subject this i support

its such useful when im in middle east to do private chat eith fellow countrymen
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learning BM is optional?
Seriously... stop it...
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post Aug 14 2019, 08:19 PM

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from voluntary to compulsory.

next GE will not vote PH
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like a script

they are playing to each other supporters

so both appear to be strong
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That's what happens when you dont discuss the matter in depth before making any decision. They should have learnt their lesson by now.
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QUOTE(azhan82 @ Aug 14 2019, 08:19 PM)
learning BM is optional?
Seriously... stop it...
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maybe you need to sent for english class
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QUOTE(azhan82 @ Aug 14 2019, 07:37 PM)
Hahahahah
mamakthir folded....

Pondan.. no respect for you matida....
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folded?

from seni to terang terang Penulisan Jawi.

what folded?
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post Aug 14 2019, 08:21 PM

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2. Lessons will continue but teaching in vernacular schools is no longer decided by teachers but by the PIBG decision.


of course they dont want doh.gif
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QUOTE(ed1torz @ Aug 14 2019, 08:20 PM)
maybe you need to sent for english class
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jawi is a writing/alphabat
It is used exclusive for BM...
Just like Cyrillic alphabet is used exclusive by Russian, Serbians and bosnians...
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change soup no change ingredient

in the end is the same.


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this is khat..
what you pussies are learning in school is just basic letters of jawi..
Itupun tak mau belajar...
Seriously.. Useless to even talk to you guys
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post Aug 14 2019, 08:26 PM

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there are ample room for nego, press on further.
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post Aug 14 2019, 08:27 PM

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From just khat to pengenalan jawi for three years
Really
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post Aug 14 2019, 08:28 PM

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Stupid to let pibg decide
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post Aug 14 2019, 08:28 PM

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QUOTE(azhan82 @ Aug 14 2019, 07:37 PM)
Hahahahah
mamakthir folded....

Pondan.. no respect for you matida....
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he is already cracked when he labeled someone racist, never before done.

involuntarily handover will be met with total loss of his legacy.
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QUOTE(ohman @ Aug 14 2019, 08:19 PM)
from voluntary to compulsory.

next GE will not vote PH
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QUOTE(azhan82 @ Aug 14 2019, 07:37 PM)
Hahahahah
mamakthir folded....

Pondan.. no respect for you matida....
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QUOTE(azhan82 @ Aug 14 2019, 08:24 PM)
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this is khat..
what you pussies are learning in school is just basic letters of jawi..
Itupun tak mau belajar...
Seriously.. Useless to even talk to you guys
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The only useful khat to know is khatulistiwa
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Can we move on from this khar issue and address more serious issue like power hungry PM8 wannabe?
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Aug 14 2019, 08:30 PM)
Can we move on from this khar issue and address more serious issue like power hungry PM8 wannabe?
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QUOTE(chiafoo @ Aug 14 2019, 08:03 PM)
M might flooded to sjk becoz themselves dont1 learn it too . Nex jawi drop becoz sk students become lesser  icon_idea.gif
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Hmm, never thought of it that way.
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i say replaced it further with optional 1 hour of watching youtube documentary of jawi/khat which is already too much to waste the teaching workforce.
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QUOTE(TheBornLoser @ Aug 14 2019, 07:41 PM)
I don't know about the UMNO - PAS cais, but I suggest for those of us who still want to see a PH government after GE15, we better get our asses behind this compromise.

Because it has been a major compromise already. And there are bigger, tougher, more important issues for the government to tackle. Let's not distract them with this petty nonsense and issue.

If still cannot accept... then I say we all go out and vote en masse for UMNO - PAS in GE15 and then get the popcorn and alcohol ready to watch the country self destruct by 2025. Fine by me either way I guess... *shrug*
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I was hardcore PH supporter ever since I were at voting age, however, PH performance is really bad and if they do nothing impress me for the next few year, I will vote for BN at PRU15, unless got better candidate party.
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Lol Jawi for Muslims in BM is kinda redundant as they were also reached in Pendidikan Islam and KAF
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so, still need to re-print textbooks=spend millions

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Syed Akbar Ali, penulis blog berprofil tinggi, menulis di blognya OutSyed The Box semalam, Jumaat 9 Ogos 2019, bahawa terdapat unsur rasuah di mana pihak-pihak tertentu di dalam UMNO masih mempunyai pengaruh di dalam kementerian pendidikan. Pemimpin-pemimpin Melayu UMNO bersama rakan ali baba Cina cuba mengambil kesempatan mengaut projek lumayan penerbitan dan percetakan buku teks khat dan jawi.

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QUOTE(bugijun @ Aug 14 2019, 07:39 PM)
Dong zo will rejoice!
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Later Maszlee introduce Maths and science in Jawi, zakir Naik Rejoice.
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ok la semua puas hati

now lets talk about the economy
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By the end of it, at least learn how to write your name in jawi so that those 3 years wont be wasted for nothing.
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QUOTE(azhan82 @ Aug 14 2019, 08:24 PM)
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this is khat..
what you pussies are learning in school is just basic letters of jawi..
Itupun tak mau belajar...
Seriously.. Useless to even talk to you guys
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Make it optional mah, why force, people want to learn go learn, if want to teach religion better from parent, house or placeof worship / mosque.
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QUOTE(azhan82 @ Aug 14 2019, 08:24 PM)
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this is khat..
what you pussies are learning in school is just basic letters of jawi..
Itupun tak mau belajar...
Seriously.. Useless to even talk to you guys
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QUOTE(kelvinfixx @ Aug 14 2019, 08:40 PM)
Make it optional mah, why force, people want to learn go learn, if want to teach religion better from parent, house or placeof worship / mosque.
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pergi baca balik
its an alphabet system
seriously.. explains so many time.. and still think jawi= religious...


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This whole issue is beyond stupid. What is that idiot Mazlee doing??



Since when was BM written in Jawi? Care to enlighten me?

If they claim is an art, when is an art class ever compulsory?...and to have to study that for years??
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QUOTE(Robin Hood @ Aug 14 2019, 08:38 PM)
By the end of it, at least learn how to write your name  in jawi so that those 3 years wont be wasted for nothing.
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Shit la. Elephant vs elephant. Grass will suffer.
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To be honest, as long as you wan add something useless to the syllabus, people will make noise. Studies are already difficult to start with, now I tell you to memorise the position of the stars, you want meh. Suddenly tell you pendidikan muzik will be in upsr, alot of people sure make noise what. The only people that won't complain are those already learning the notes and symbols. Same lor, Chinese complain coz they everything must excel, u add more stuff, they need to work harder. The people that don't care are those that already learn.
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QUOTE(lowya @ Aug 14 2019, 08:28 PM)
he is already cracked when he labeled someone racist, never before done.

involuntarily handover will be met with total loss of his legacy.
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Got lah. he labelled DAP and Kit Siang racists many many times. Which is why Jibby go write this:

Saya rasa PM ke-7 tidak akan haramkan Dong Zong walaupun gelarkan mereka sebagai rasis.

Kerana ,PM ke-4 berkali-kali gelar Kit Siang sebagai orang paling rasis dalam Malaysia tapi Kit Siang tak pernah sekalipun diharamkan.


Jibby knows the Dong Zong issue is yet another wayang.
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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Aug 14 2019, 08:46 PM)
This whole issue is beyond stupid. What is that idiot Mazlee doing??
Since when was BM written in Jawi? Care to enlighten me?

If they claim is an art, when is an art class ever compulsory?...and to have to study that for years??
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Apa ni lol?


Jawi is BM written in khat characters

You go east coast can still see it on road sign lol
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QUOTE(TrialGone @ Aug 14 2019, 07:55 PM)
PIBG decision? Only PIBG full of M&M parents will agree to this. It will simply drove more non away from malay centric schools and malay from non centric school. Like wtf is Maszlee doing???? This guy almost same level as Zakar Naik.

Just drop Jawi already.
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Folow laa... Cabinet mean all those DAP also agree to it... Just get in line..
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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Aug 14 2019, 08:46 PM)
This whole issue is beyond stupid. What is that idiot Mazlee doing??
Since when was BM written in Jawi? Care to enlighten me?

If they claim is an art, when is an art class ever compulsory?...and to have to study that for years??
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BM started in jawi dude. But they replaced it with rumi a long time ago, which mahathir claims is to help the minorities. But imo, that's bullshit, it was changed to rumi because rumi is more suited and less flawed.

Jawi is still a thing because certain scriptures or plaques are written in that form and I guess it's something that certain quarters doesn't want to make extinct. and that's good, nothing should go extinct.

Who knows, next time churches will make everyone learn Hebrew or Greek because that's how the Bible started...
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I’ll take this decision. Give and take la. Now dong Zhong can ask PIBG not to teach.

Apa lagi mau?

Remove jawi
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Then 5 demand

Oh wait.. Macam HK ni
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Folow laa... Cabinet mean all those DAP also agree to it... Just get in line..
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Just learn the jawi la. If they wan make it even more compulsory, then make noise lor. Not like many of the Chinese gonna use much BM in the future despite scoring A+ in SPM
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and enforce kelas peralihan since students lacked of jawi? great.

waste 1 year just for sake denying children jawi proficiency.

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pergi baca balik
its an alphabet system
seriously.. explains so many time.. and still think jawi= religious...
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Jawi is not religion, I know it since I am baby, but don't force la learning something that is useful limited to religion usage only. Don't be angry when I mention limited to religion, I know it can and may have other usage.
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Even the statements are inconsistent..

Is it Jawi or Khat? Because Khat is the artistic elements of Arabic script calligraphy, whereas Jawi is just the transliterated equivalent of Latin script via Arabic script for Malay language.

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U can't see it but I'm lifting the middle finger to that.
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Whatever laa... But you being force to get the fark inline..
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Whatever laa... But you being force to get the fark inline..
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Inline but my middle finger still standing strong. Btw what line? I already fck that line.

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QUOTE(kelvinfixx @ Aug 14 2019, 09:00 PM)
Jawi is not religion, I know it since I am baby, but don't force la learning something that is useful limited to religion usage only. Don't be angry when I mention limited to religion, I know it can and may have other usage.
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Yea.. not useful..
Then go assume and point why "arab" letters are on our roads..

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BM started in jawi dude. But they replaced it with rumi a long time ago, which mahathir claims is to help the minorities. But imo, that's bullshit, it was changed to rumi because rumi is more suited and less flawed.

Jawi is still a thing because certain scriptures or plaques are written in that form and I guess it's something that certain quarters doesn't want to make extinct. and that's good, nothing should go extinct.

Who knows, next time churches will make everyone learn Hebrew or Greek because that's how the Bible started...
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same thing why ataturk forced all the turks to switch to alphabelts. to sync with the westerners. rather to have malays lacked behind, at least they will familiar with rumi. just like as easy as ABC.
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Inline but my middle finger still standing strong. Btw what line? I already fck that line.
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Enjoy the jawi dude... Hahahhaha
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Even the statements are inconsistent..

Is it Jawi or Khat? Because Khat is the artistic elements of Arabic script calligraphy, whereas Jawi is just the transliterated equivalent of Latin script via Arabic script for Malay language.
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They also cannot agree if jawi can be used in porn or not despite claiming its just writing not religion is already proof enough that Jawi can confused pipu.

By Malaysia law, if its confusing, ban it.
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QUOTE(blueheaven @ Aug 14 2019, 08:55 PM)
BM started in jawi dude. But they replaced it with rumi a long time ago, which mahathir claims is to help the minorities. But imo, that's bullshit, it was changed to rumi because rumi is more suited and less flawed.

Jawi is still a thing because certain scriptures or plaques are written in that form and I guess it's something that certain quarters doesn't want to make extinct. and that's good, nothing should go extinct.

Who knows, next time churches will make everyone learn Hebrew or Greek because that's how the Bible started...
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Yes BM is from Jawi. The BM now is easy to follow, and is good thing also.

Bible and Buddhist Sanskrit is also translated to different languages, just easier for people to understand.

But in nature, people don;t like to be force.
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I’ll take this decision. Give and take la. Now dong Zhong can ask PIBG not to teach.

Apa lagi mau?

Remove jawi
DAP out
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Then 5 demand

Oh wait.. Macam HK ni
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yes and then it wll strengthen his claim they are racists, reject everything not chinese related and potentially killing off any UEC intro
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QUOTE(blueheaven @ Aug 14 2019, 08:55 PM)
BM started in jawi dude. But they replaced it with rumi a long time ago, which mahathir claims is to help the minorities. But imo, that's bullshit, it was changed to rumi because rumi is more suited and less flawed.

Jawi is still a thing because certain scriptures or plaques are written in that form and I guess it's something that certain quarters doesn't want to make extinct. and that's good, nothing should go extinct.

Who knows, next time churches will make everyone learn Hebrew or Greek because that's how the Bible started...
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malay in Rumi since Munshi Abdullah era lar,.... mana lah mamaktir decided to to be in Rumi for non malay convenience ??
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Enjoy the jawi dude... Hahahhaha
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Im enjoying turning on the subtitle while watching porn though. Lol. If they think making non learn jawi will make them more Is*** think again.
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malay in Rumi since Munshi Abdullah era lar,.... mana lah mamaktir decided to to be in Rumi for non malay convenience ??
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I meant that mahathir said it was changed to rumi to help the Chinese. Please read properly.

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Im enjoying turning on the subtitle while watching porn though. Lol. If they think making non learn jawi will make them more Is*** think again.
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Yup.. That's the feeling of being hopeless... Enjoy bruh...
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I really pity the students these days, got useless education minister flip flop this and that syallabus always change
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QUOTE(TrialGone @ Aug 14 2019, 09:07 PM)
Im enjoying turning on the subtitle while watching porn though. Lol. If they think making non learn jawi will make them more Is*** think again.
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Serious question any porn subtitle in Arabic script, including jawi for Islamic market?
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Yup.. That's the feeling of being hopeless... Enjoy bruh...
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Thanks I will. Btw, there are porn in Arabic script though. Look it up.
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yes and then it wll strengthen his claim they are racists, reject everything not chinese related and potentially killing off any UEC intro
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Issue 3 pages jawi also Huru hara until need balik tongsan. Can’t imagine UEC case if get green light.

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Serious question any porn subtitle in Arabic script, including jawi for Islamic market?
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Can. But not gonna tell u, just look it up otherwise kena banned by mcmc. Its arabic though not jawi.

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Thanks I will. Btw, there are porn in Arabic script though. Look it up.
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Good finding yo.... You enjoy reading your Arabic porn bro... Thank you for supporting the gov you vote.. Hahahaha
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I meant that mahathir said it was changed to rumi to help the Chinese. Please read properly.
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Not mahathir, and not because of chinese, dont always think chinese is the culprit, it is change during the British ans western occupation.
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Good finding yo.... You enjoy reading your Arabic porn bro... Thank you for supporting the gov you vote.. Hahahaha
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Kinda stupid of u when I already repeatedly say to ban jawi. If they approve jawi, I'm a gonna anticipate eventual script into porn industry, no doubt. I'm making use of both situations.
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QUOTE(Cincai lar @ Aug 14 2019, 09:07 PM)
malay in Rumi since Munshi Abdullah era lar,.... mana lah mamaktir decided to to be in Rumi for non malay convenience ??
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bm was in jawi until one dap father switch it to rumi.

it's great shame for indon not as culturist as us - they abandon jawi, put a lady face without tudung. anyway they money is real cheap also ..
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Kinda stupid of u when I already repeatedly say to ban jawi. If they approve jawi, I'm a gonna anticipate eventual script into porn industry, no doubt. I'm making use of both situations.
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Hahahaha..
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QUOTE(haswell88 @ Aug 14 2019, 09:19 PM)
bm was in jawi until one dap father switch it to rumi.

it's great shame for indon not  as culturist as us - they abandon jawi, put a lady face without tudung. anyway they money is real cheap also ..
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Simple say dap, it is way before.
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Kinda stupid of u when I already repeatedly say to ban jawi. If they approve jawi, I'm a gonna anticipate eventual script into porn industry, no doubt. I'm making use of both situations.
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Maybe after learn jawi you can trasnlate porn subtitle into jawi, for asia pacific isalamic market.
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Don't care. After vote ph to bring down najib, I will vote umno pas for ge15.
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And what's good about umno?

Their ex-leader and current leader are facing charges. What do you expect from them?
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Maybe after learn jawi you can trasnlate porn subtitle into jawi, for asia pacific isalamic market.
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...... Maybe I should learn. There is a market in kelantan and terengganu after all.
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Bodo backward thinking
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After bakar for so long, me being a Chinese also cannot understand what so big deal of introducing 3 pages of khat in BM text book.
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And what's good about umno?

Their ex-leader and current leader are facing charges. What do you expect from them?
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Facing charge or not depend on gohmen lah.

Even Guan Eng facing corruption charges, people also vote him in GE14. Then later drop banglo case and stop terowong investigation.

From the leaked investigation papers on terowong including the admission of the owner of the tunnel concession company himself, Nobita and gang is very guilty of receiving money multiple times including 10% stake in tunnel project.

You think if BN win in GE15, many PH leaders won't be facing charges?

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Good riddance. Go learn jawi for what? So that it can only be used solely in Malaysia?
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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Aug 14 2019, 08:46 PM)
This whole issue is beyond stupid. What is that idiot Mazlee doing??
Since when was BM written in Jawi? Care to enlighten me?

If they claim is an art, when is an art class ever compulsory?...and to have to study that for years??
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Fuhh..the one beyond stupid is u. Jawi is bahasa melayu in arabic alphabet. Shows how ignorant u are about your so called country....
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Facing charge or not depend on gohmen lah.

Even Guan Eng facing corruption charges, people also vote him in GE14. Then later drop banglo case and stop terowong investigation.

From the leaked investigation papers on terowong including the admission of the owner of the tunnel concession company himself, Nobita and gang is very guilty of receiving money multiple times including 10% stake in tunnel project.

You think if BN win in GE15, many PH leaders won't be facing charges?
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QUOTE(Roblox Malaya @ Aug 14 2019, 09:41 PM)
Facing charge or not depend on gohmen lah.

Even Guan Eng facing corruption charges, people also vote him in GE14. Then later drop banglo case and stop terowong investigation.

From the leaked investigation papers on terowong including the admission of the owner of the tunnel concession company himself, Nobita and gang is very guilty of receiving money multiple times including 10% stake in tunnel project.

You think if BN win in GE15, many PH leaders won't be facing charges?
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I would like to see umno corrupted leaders put in jail and the key thrown away. They stole so much from the country.

You avoided the second question. What do you expect from umno? More 1MDB? For me, no thanks.

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QUOTE(TheBornLoser @ Aug 14 2019, 07:41 PM)
I don't know about the UMNO - PAS cais, but I suggest for those of us who still want to see a PH government after GE15, we better get our asses behind this compromise.

Because it has been a major compromise already. And there are bigger, tougher, more important issues for the government to tackle. Let's not distract them with this petty nonsense and issue.

If still cannot accept... then I say we all go out and vote en masse for UMNO - PAS in GE15 and then get the popcorn and alcohol ready to watch the country self destruct by 2025. Fine by me either way I guess... *shrug*
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There are still lots of MCA Macai and fake accounts will make noise. They don't want this free bullet to stop.
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All these is just cheap publicity for MOE.
long time no appear in news, lets make some big news that last for weeks.
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QUOTE(haswell88 @ Aug 14 2019, 08:57 PM)
and enforce kelas peralihan since students lacked of jawi? great.

waste 1 year just for sake denying children jawi proficiency.
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kelas peralihan usually for students weak in math and science smile.gif

many students cannot even count to 10 after standard six, true story biggrin.gif
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Not mahathir, and not because of chinese, dont always think chinese is the culprit, it is change during the British ans western occupation.
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I didn't say that, mahathir said that recently. Damn, comprehension skills of people here.... Maybe should add other stuff instead of jawi
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It's always the lesser of 2 evils.

PH is a lot less evil than BN.

It's always a compromise. Khat is a minor issue, and concessions have already been made.

So all you idiots out there, stop moaning about khat.

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I didn't say that, mahathir said that recently. Damn, comprehension skills of people here.... Maybe should add other stuff instead of jawi
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Dont be to sensitive la, I am saying the other guy who reply to you that it is not mahathir who chnage it. damn, comprehension skill of all people here.
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Dont be to sensitive la, I am saying the other guy who reply to you that it is not mahathir who chnage it. damn, comprehension skill of all people here.
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Then reply to him la. And why you need to tell him the exact same thing he said. He said it has nth to do with mahathir and you also say the same. So, you agreeing with him or saying him?
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This could be the best possible decision so far.

But not after damage is done. To PH who gets punched leaft right up down, you asked for it.

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War in PIBG..
If a lot malay in that school.. raw is war later..
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what...national school will be still compulsory ??

since only poor family send their kids to national school...

yeah why not ??

just keep them poor by giving poor education

so gomen can continue to control them

good job maszlee rclxms.gif
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War in PIBG..
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Chill la. Let PIBG decide means they can give notice in advance, so chinese parents can make their kids go tuition a few years first
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It's an ok compromise....just accept lah. Enough of this issue.
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Haha..the ground shifts each time PH moves. If it isnt quite clear to most people, elections are won by the silent malay majority vote.

The malay majority is no longer with PH. Perhaps this is the old mans plan all along.

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just drop the whole thing only la... why they want to force ? optional for kebangsaan!
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its the right choice... jawi has low priority.

want to improve BM? Bring back sebutan BAKU.
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QUOTE(Roblox Malaya @ Aug 14 2019, 07:35 PM)
1. No more called Khat. But now called pengenalan Jawi.

2. Lessons will continue but teaching in vernacular schools is no longer decided by teachers but by the PIBG decision.

3. Teaching in all national schools is compulsory.

4. It will still be in the BM text book for all students

5. Voluntary roll out for standard 4 students next year, standard 5 students in 2021 and standard six in 2022. (not sure what this means? Means 3 years of Jawi?)

What you think?

Gooding or no gooding?
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kelas peralihan usually for students weak in math and science smile.gif

many students cannot even count to 10 after standard six, true story biggrin.gif
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that's bad! another reason to abolish vernacular school - they will train students weak in math and sains. you won;t have this in national school!

when national school starts taching jawi, i dont see any reason they can't enforce peralihan to vernacular since the students tak tau to read jawi! unless start vernacular and ends with vernacular (UEC), let peralihan force jawi on these students flex.gif


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lol rape but no pancut , not guilty


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"Pengenalan Jawi" is soooo much better ! as i say is not about khat, but rather how the GOv introduce the new subject . Mazlee suck on it !
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QUOTE(blueheaven @ Aug 14 2019, 10:08 PM)
Then reply to him la. And why you need to tell him the exact same thing he said. He said it has nth to do with mahathir and you also say the same. So, you agreeing with him or saying him?
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I am reaffirming what he said is right, what you say is right and something slightly wrong, chill la, we can get along easily with other races.
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Ok la.. ini baru lah kerajaan rakyat Malaysia... saham PH pasti naik...

This post has been edited by freeman1: Aug 14 2019, 10:46 PM
amanu
post Aug 14 2019, 10:47 PM

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setan betul dong zong ni
rooney723
post Aug 14 2019, 10:55 PM

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dis is bad la, why cnt dong zong just agree? its compulsory for national schools and its optional for vernacular schools?

soon pasumno will use dis to continue to spread racial hatred, soon malays will think cainis no respect for national language n culture, haihh, PH really one term gomen dy
tr|n|ty
post Aug 14 2019, 10:59 PM

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stupid maszlee creating all this fuss. instead of unity, it is creating disunity. quite a mofo
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post Aug 15 2019, 08:58 AM

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QUOTE(bigwolf @ Aug 14 2019, 09:48 PM)
You should be grateful there's no fake news law
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What fake news?

The Deputy Minister for law already confirmed in parliament that the leaked papers were real and the MACC also lodged a police report to find out how it got leaked.



Remember also that the Penang Tunnel company already publicly admitted that they had paid RM22 million to stop corruption investigations while one of the party receiving the RM19 million was charged with 71 charges?

You think Penang tunnel project is clean? lol

This post has been edited by Roblox Malaya: Aug 15 2019, 09:02 AM
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post Aug 15 2019, 09:03 AM

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YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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post Aug 15 2019, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(nuvi @ Aug 14 2019, 09:42 PM)
Good riddance. Go learn jawi for what? So that it can only be used solely in Malaysia?
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