QUOTE(guilt79 @ Aug 13 2019, 12:10 PM)
The old one yesForte above the korean cars are better equipped and have similar quality with japanese car
The low resale is just 1-2k difference due to perception that japanese is superior
Kia Forte used car
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Aug 13 2019, 12:33 PM
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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Aug 13 2019, 02:03 PM) U dont get my point. I beg to differQuality i have no doubt they hv improved. I am talking about their engine technology and the way they drive. Put it this way, its very easy to make a car with good quality interiors etc etc. Just slapgood quality stuff in it. But its not easy to make an engine thats drives as good as a honda or toyota engine. When i drive a Honda, i feel the car is so smooth and easy to rev. It has a small 1.5L engine but feels energetic and powerful When i drove the Kia forte many years ago, the engine felt lazy, not smooth at all, and does not feel powerful even its a 2L engine. Summore it drank fuel like nobodys business. And mind you it was a new car with less than 2k mileage on it I owned Kia Rio 2013 in the past and the level of refinement and tech is way ahead of japs in similar class and price The feeling of 'smooth and easy' rev is typical japanese car trait - they tend to be light on the throttle but not everyone like it as it some feels it is too lightweight and 'floaty' It felt like a 'toy car' But Kia cars are more like european cars - the pedal feels heavier but once you pickup the speed it feel more planted and solid compared to japanese Thats why i tend to bought conti cars when i sold my Rio babisotong liked this post
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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Aug 13 2019, 02:33 PM) Wtf does engine easy to rev and lightness got to do with feeling floaty on the road? European cars actually deliberately tuned to give heavy pedal feedback Pls don't compare conti cars with Korean cars la. Conti cars engine is fantastically built. Besides Korean cars are heavy which explains why their FC is bad. This actually to make the car feel 'solid' and 'heavy' which in turn made the driver feel stable and planted. So the car pedal will feel 'rolling start' instead of 'instant pedal' feel of japanese car For example lot of Honda or Nissan driver actually complaining to BMW SA that they felt that their new BMW feel 'heavy' when they accelerate from traffic light compared to jap cars Even japanese car steering feedback also lighter - while conti cars are tuned heavier coz europeans hate it as it made the car feel 'floaty' But in untrained hands it made the heavier steering of conti cars feel 'slow' and 'ancient' But once it pickup on the highway and via the tight corner then they feel the differences of conti Kia newer cars is designed by Audi Peter Schreyer (Forte is his first creation) and he mentioned that they deliberately tuned it to mimic conti car feeling This post has been edited by Stigonboard: Aug 13 2019, 05:07 PM babisotong liked this post
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