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post Aug 14 2019, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(Valentino46 @ Aug 14 2019, 03:15 AM)
i read some other issue with asus rog B450 as well after latest bios update,probably the next update will iron out the issue
i'm choosing the rog mainly for the audio chip and ROG aesthetics,i'm not overclocking much.
i wonder should i stretch my budget and go for the full fat x570 but damn they're expensive right now
i read the cm ml120l perform better than similar price air cooler, the only issue is 120mm radiator will looks damn kosong in pc-011 case, in fact even 240mm rad will still not look perfect in that case,only 360mm rad will fill up the space nicely but 360 too expensive and overkill for non overclocker like me,a bit of a dilemma
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Can always stick with the stock cooler for now then get a bigger one second hand maybe.

As for overclocking, with the Ryzen 3rd gen you can just turn on PBO+AutoOC in the BIOS and then it will boost as high as it can go as long as there's thermal headroom. Better cooler = more headroom. Of course as with all overclocking the returns may not be worth the investment but since you're getting a better cooler for aesthetics may as well factor in the performance also.
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post Aug 14 2019, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(Valentino46 @ Aug 14 2019, 03:18 AM)
yea tall cooler definitely won't fit but that's ok i'm either on stock cooler first then upgrade AIO system later
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Just curious.
If you don't plan to overclock, why need to go for a AIO cooler?

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post Aug 14 2019, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(Longshot @ Aug 14 2019, 11:24 AM)
Just curious.
If you don't plan to overclock, why need to go for a AIO cooler?
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Nowadays getting an AIO or custom watercooling not necessary must need to OC, aesthetic is equally important for me.
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post Aug 14 2019, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(llk @ Aug 14 2019, 11:37 AM)
Nowadays getting an AIO or custom watercooling not necessary must need to OC, aesthetic is equally important for me.
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I see.
I guess with that case, it's worth it.

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post Aug 14 2019, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(RViN @ Aug 14 2019, 10:33 AM)
You might find this interesting:



Can always stick with the stock cooler for now then get a bigger one second hand maybe.

As for overclocking, with the Ryzen 3rd gen you can just turn on PBO+AutoOC in the BIOS and then it will boost as high as it can go as long as there's thermal headroom. Better cooler = more headroom. Of course as with all overclocking the returns may not be worth the investment but since you're getting a better cooler for aesthetics may as well factor in the performance also.
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How about Gigabyte aorus elite x570?
Any comments?
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post Aug 14 2019, 12:02 PM

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In that price range generally the 2 best choice would be the Tuf or Elite. Only difference is Elite has Intel LAN and maybe 2 more USB ports.

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post Aug 14 2019, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(Longshot @ Aug 14 2019, 11:24 AM)
Just curious.
If you don't plan to overclock, why need to go for a AIO cooler?
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yea that's why it's not on my top priority component to get first as it's only serve aesthetic purpose mostly.
secondarily, as other member here point out, the auto overclocking might work better with more thermal headroom provided by better cooler

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post Aug 14 2019, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(Valentino46 @ Aug 14 2019, 01:54 PM)
yea that's why it's not on my top priority component to get first as it's only serve aesthetic purpose mostly.
secondarily, as other member here point out, the auto overclocking might work better with more thermal headroom provided by better cooler
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Do you mind to tell me how you plan to place your case fan and how many of them, brand and sizes?

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post Aug 14 2019, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(Longshot @ Aug 14 2019, 02:55 PM)
Do you mind to tell me how you plan to place your case fan and how many of them, brand and sizes?
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probably triple 120mm fan at the bottom blowing directly into the gpu, then another triple 120mm at the top exhausting air out,that'll leave the side mount kosong which is a bit of an eye sore but that's the plan at the moment,bo pian not enough $$
if i'm upgrading 120mm AIO later i'll take out one of the fan from the top to mount that radiator, i not sure how ugly it'll turn out but that's the cheapest route,if i'm a bit more kaya later when i'm upgrading i'll get a 360 radiator to fill up the top,then shift the triple fan to the side

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post Aug 14 2019, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(Valentino46 @ Aug 14 2019, 03:40 PM)
probably triple 120mm fan at the bottom blowing directly into the gpu, then another triple 120mm at the top exhausting air out,but that'll leave the side mount kosong which is a bit of an eye sore
if i'm upgrading 120mm radiator later i'll replace one of the fan from the top to mount that radiator, i not sure how ugly it'll turn out but that's the cheapest route,if i'm a bit more kaya later when i'm upgrading i'll get a 360 radiator to fill up the side
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I'm using the Lian Li 011 dynamic as well, you might as well save more fund straight get the 360mm aio to fill up either top or side mount.
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QUOTE(llk @ Aug 14 2019, 03:49 PM)
I'm using the Lian Li 011 dynamic as well, you might as well save more fund straight get the 360mm aio to fill up either top or side mount.
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yeap thats the most ideal situation
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post Aug 14 2019, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(Valentino46 @ Aug 14 2019, 03:40 PM)
probably triple 120mm fan at the bottom blowing directly into the gpu, then another triple 120mm at the top exhausting air out,that'll leave the side mount kosong which is a bit of an eye sore but that's the plan at the moment,bo pian not enough $$
if i'm upgrading 120mm AIO later i'll take out one of the fan from the top to mount that radiator, i not sure how ugly it'll turn out but that's the cheapest route,if i'm a bit more kaya later when i'm upgrading i'll get a 360 radiator to fill up the top,then shift the triple fan to the side
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Wow... 6 fans.
Has anyone tried with just 3 fans at the side?
Maybe one more at the top in front of the CPU cooler?


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post Aug 14 2019, 06:37 PM

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QUOTE(Valentino46 @ Aug 13 2019, 07:56 AM)
hi i'm gonna do a build very shortly with 2 specs in mind, will be using it for 90% gaming purposes, with very light to no overclocking intention,i did my research and so far it looks like this

ryzen pc

cpu: ryzen 5 3600 - RM859
MB : asus rog strix B450-f - RM499
ram: kingston fury 8gb 3200mhz X 2 - RM350
ssd : adata sx8200 pro 512gb - RM322
case : nzxth510 RM309 / lian li pc-011 RM469
cpu cooler: cooler master ML120L - RM157 or stock cooler first upgrade later

GPU(GTX1070) and PSU(corsair RM650X) will be carry over from old pc

alternatively if i wanna save some bucks

intel pc

cpu: intel i5-9400f -RM579
MB: asus rog strix H370-f - RM630
ram : kingston fury 8gb 2666mhz X2 - RM300

everything else same as above

i'll be saving just 200 bucks for going intel budget routes, but from reviews,i5-9400f perform about the same as r5 3600 gaming wise, productivity definitely the r5 3600 by a mile, do you guys think worth it?
i do know the lian li is a bit overkill for my mostly air cool system but i like the looks and dual chamber design, do comment on that i'll keep my option open

please comment on my pick for any improvement on value or compatibility
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>h370
>rm630
yikes

>120mm aio

 

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