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post Jul 2 2007, 05:35 PM, updated 19y ago

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post Jul 2 2007, 06:51 PM

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other people have other taste.

what are your priorities?
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post Jul 2 2007, 07:52 PM

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QUOTE(kwws @ Jul 2 2007, 05:35 PM)
Hi guys i'm planning to get a prosumer camera below the budget of 1.8-1.9k for casual photography...still newbie to pro-snapshooting so planning to get a cam to start with...

I've read couple of professional reviews from websites regarding these few models and what i get is pure confusion...as each of them has their own strong and weak points...

so any pros out thr, which camera is the most recommended? currently I'm leaning over Sony H-7 and FZ-8 though...
feesbacks regarding these bunch of cameras anyone? thx alot
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Please please please get a Fujifilm Finepix S series camera. These cameras are the next best thing to DSLRs.

FINEPIX S6500FD costing around RM1200
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FINEPIX S9600 around RM1500
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I recommend this 2 cameras because it uses Fuji's Super CCD HR technology.

It produces excellent photo printouts.

Produces vibrant and sharp photos.

I was using the older generation Finepix S7000 before I switched to Nikon D80. And almost every camera shop I went to said the S7000 is a great cam.

The S9600 is a better choice because it has a LCD screen which can be tilted.

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It's great for taking high angle shots of crowded area.

These 2 cameras offer all in one lens for macro, wide angle and telephoto. Their lenses support from 28mm-300mm.

My Nikon D80 lens also untill 135mm only. tongue.gif

http://www.ephotozine.com/article/Fuji-Sup...CD-SR--HR-FAQ-1

http://www.digitalreview.ca/cams/FujiSuperCCD.shtml

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QUOTE(calvin_gsc @ Jul 2 2007, 07:52 PM)
Please please please get a Fujifilm Finepix S series camera. These cameras are the next best thing to DSLRs.

FINEPIX S6500FD costing around RM1200
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FINEPIX S9600 around RM1500
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I recommend this 2 cameras because it uses Fuji's Super CCD HR technology.

It produces excellent photo printouts.

Produces vibrant and sharp photos.

I was using the older generation Finepix S7000 before I switched to Nikon D80. And almost every camera shop I went to said the S7000 is a great cam.

The S9600 is a better choice because it has a LCD screen which can be tilted.

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It's great for taking high angle shots of crowded area.

These 2 cameras offer all in one lens for macro, wide angle and telephoto. Their lenses support from 28mm-300mm.

My Nikon D80 lens also untill 135mm only.  tongue.gif

http://www.ephotozine.com/article/Fuji-Sup...CD-SR--HR-FAQ-1

http://www.digitalreview.ca/cams/FujiSuperCCD.shtml
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ur D80 kit lens 135mm after converted is around 200mm already, not too far behind lah.. if not enuff, then go grab a 70-300mm and shoot at effective 450mm range loh..
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QUOTE(kevin613 @ Jul 2 2007, 08:11 PM)
ur D80 kit lens 135mm after converted is around 200mm already, not too far behind lah.. if not enuff, then go grab a 70-300mm and shoot at effective 450mm range loh..
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yeah, which i why, i am not collecting funds for a 70-300mm VR lens. hehe icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(calvin_gsc @ Jul 2 2007, 07:52 PM)
Please please please get a Fujifilm Finepix S series camera. These cameras are the next best thing to DSLRs.

FINEPIX S6500FD costing around RM1200
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FINEPIX S9600 around RM1500
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I recommend this 2 cameras because it uses Fuji's Super CCD HR technology.

It produces excellent photo printouts.

Produces vibrant and sharp photos.

I was using the older generation Finepix S7000 before I switched to Nikon D80. And almost every camera shop I went to said the S7000 is a great cam.

The S9600 is a better choice because it has a LCD screen which can be tilted.

user posted image

It's great for taking high angle shots of crowded area.

These 2 cameras offer all in one lens for macro, wide angle and telephoto. Their lenses support from 28mm-300mm.

My Nikon D80 lens also untill 135mm only.  tongue.gif

http://www.ephotozine.com/article/Fuji-Sup...CD-SR--HR-FAQ-1

http://www.digitalreview.ca/cams/FujiSuperCCD.shtml
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i've got 1 fujifilm 9600 back at home...presently owned by my father...so im planning to get one cam for myself exclusively tongue.gif

well, for 6500...the specs kinda low...so i dunno whether its good onot...
also, if im not mistaken, most of fujifilm's camera doesnt have built-in OIS features...i admit their pictures are pretty nice though...but it can be shaky when using in long distance zoom...especially in low light areas


Added on July 2, 2007, 9:18 pmi've just read reviews regarding S6500...omg...the pictures quality is superb thanks to its super ccd technology...compared to Panasonic FZ-8, the texture details is much better and has better control of ISO...
damn...torn between choices...S6500 is definitely a good choice for budget...too bad it doesnt have image stabiliser n this might pose problem in low light shots and end of long zoom shots


Added on July 2, 2007, 9:28 pm
QUOTE(xxx2299 @ Jul 2 2007, 06:51 PM)
other people have other taste.

what are your priorities?
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basically my priorities is a good ultra zoom, image stabiliser, and camera good for wide angle shots as im more prone to landscape shots...of cuz i would like to have a decent burst mode as sometimes i would need some action shots tongue.gif

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QUOTE(kwws @ Jul 2 2007, 08:46 PM)
i've got 1 fujifilm 9600 back at home...presently owned by my father...so im planning to get one cam for myself exclusively tongue.gif

well, for 6500...the specs kinda low...so i dunno whether its good onot...
also, if im not mistaken, most of fujifilm's camera doesnt have built-in OIS features...i admit their pictures are pretty nice though...but it can be shaky when using in long distance zoom...especially in low light areas


Added on July 2, 2007, 9:18 pmi've just read reviews regarding S6500...omg...the pictures quality is superb thanks to its super ccd technology...compared to Panasonic FZ-8, the texture details is much better and has better control of ISO...
damn...torn between choices...S6500 is definitely a good choice for budget...too bad it doesnt have image stabiliser n this might pose problem in low light shots and end of long zoom shots
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Yeah, right now, only the high end S5 Pro has IS technology.

However, this can be compensated by the high IS, big aperture and fast shutter speeds.

Well, if IS is a must for you... Looks like you have to go for other brands already. sad.gif

Hey, when you shoot in manual mode, you have full control of your cam, and you can reduce those blurring.

Blurring can also be reduced with the use of flash.


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QUOTE(calvin_gsc @ Jul 2 2007, 09:32 PM)
Yeah, right now, only the high end S5 Pro has IS technology.

However, this can be compensated by the high IS, big aperture and fast shutter speeds.

Well, if IS is a must for you... Looks like you have to go for other brands already.  sad.gif

Hey, when you shoot in manual mode, you have full control of your cam, and you can reduce those blurring.

Blurring can also be reduced with the use of flash.
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yeah tats wad i worry...i have somehow tendency of shaking when using cams like 9600...cuz its heavy...not suited for my hands hmm.gif
flash reduces the appearance of the photo man...it looks unrealistic...unless i hav to use it in night...
sigh, 6500 is a great cam from what i read...but 5700 model has worse ISO even though it is a newer version...im pretty concerned with ISO performance of cameras...FZ-8 has failed badly even though it has a very responsive hardware performance...its noise reduction function is destructing the texture quality of photo...so i guess i better take out FZ-8 now

As for Sony H-7, it also produces impressive performance in ISO and color control...but it has some issues with distortion though...any reviews regarding H-7?
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QUOTE(kwws @ Jul 2 2007, 09:45 PM)
yeah tats wad i worry...i have somehow tendency of shaking when using cams like 9600...cuz its heavy...not suited for my hands  hmm.gif
flash reduces the appearance of the photo man...it looks unrealistic...unless i hav to use it in night...
sigh, 6500 is a great cam from what i read...but 5700 model has worse ISO even though it is a newer version...im pretty concerned with ISO performance of cameras...FZ-8 has failed badly even though it has a very responsive hardware performance...its noise reduction function is destructing the texture quality of photo...so i guess i better take out FZ-8 now

As for Sony H-7, it also produces impressive performance in ISO and color control...but it has some issues with distortion though...any reviews regarding H-7?
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The 5700 isn't good cause it doesn't use the Super CCD HR.

Well about the flash problem. You can try bounce flash photography with cheap external flash or DIY your own flash diffuser to soften the flash, but yet get natural lighting.
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QUOTE(calvin_gsc @ Jul 2 2007, 09:59 PM)
The 5700 isn't good cause it doesn't use the Super CCD HR.

Well about the flash problem. You can try bounce flash photography with cheap external flash or DIY your own flash diffuser to soften the flash, but yet get natural lighting.
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external flash? but S6500 doesnt have an external flash mount...too bad otherwise like S9600 i can get bounce flash by using external flash...but anyway isit possible to fit a DIY flash diffuser for S6500fd?
i cant imagine myself carrying this kind of diffuser though - http://www.digitalfunstuff.com.au/prod1387.htm sweat.gif tat one should be better for studio purposes but not outdoors i assume

im not into S9600 oledi as I've personally used it b4...doesnt suit me at all...too bulky as i need to bring the camera out often for daily shots for blogging purpose biggrin.gif

hmm maybe i should really choose S6500fd...great value for money...superb ISO performance...but one thing i worry about is shaking issue when using long zoom...and the burst mode for this model isnt v impressive but i can tolerate that though...

however set aside all, it has an attractive pricing n has flash compensation compared to Sony's...perhaps this is a better choice biggrin.gif

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s57 is out, sony the best among those

fuji too old model

pana fz7,fz8 simpan kulit

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QUOTE(kwws @ Jul 2 2007, 10:14 PM)
external flash? but S6500 doesnt have an external flash mount...too bad otherwise like S9600 i can get bounce flash by using external flash...but anyway isit possible to fit a DIY flash diffuser for S6500fd? im not into S9600 oledi as I've personally used it b4...doesnt suit me at all...too bulky as i need to bring the camera out often for daily shots for blogging purpose biggrin.gif

hmm maybe i should really choose S6500fd...great value for money...superb ISO performance...but one thing i worry about is shaking issue when using long zoom...and the burst mode for this model isnt v impressive but i can tolerate that though...

however set aside all, it has an attractive pricing n has flash compensation compared to Sony's...perhaps this is a better choice biggrin.gif
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Just get a piece of paper and cover is or modify and old white transparent film plastic case.

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Cut out a slit big enough to slide your pop up flash inside.

Use the white one, cut a slit horizontally to fit onto the flash. I have a friend who uses his Canon 350D flash this way.



Oh, if size is an issue, then go for the canon ixus series with IS. Suits you well, since u got a good budget.

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QUOTE(calvin_gsc @ Jul 2 2007, 10:31 PM)
Just get a piece of paper and cover is or modify and old white transparent film plastic case.

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Cut out a slit big enough to slide your pop up flash inside.

Use the white one, cut a slit horizontally to fit onto the flash. I have a friend who uses his Canon 350D flash this way.
Oh, if size is an issue, then go for the canon ixus series with IS. Suits you well, since u got a good budget.
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thx alot for ur guidance dude!!! icon_rolleyes.gif
http://www.flickr.com/photos/monkeywithagun/316565193/ another nice DIY flash diffuser for built-in pop-up flash !

going for ixus series? im quite an enthusiast maybe due to influence of my family member photography experience so im not very fond of ultra compact cameras...supposingly with prosumer cams like 6500 would help me to expand more on my photography learning in future...i suppose? tongue.gif

hmm personally i think S6500fd is small enuf for me oledi...i like the compact SLR looks...S9600 is definitely too big...especially its bulky lens...and its heavier sweat.gif

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QUOTE(kwws @ Jul 2 2007, 10:49 PM)
thx alot for ur guidance dude!!! icon_rolleyes.gif
http://www.flickr.com/photos/monkeywithagun/316565193/ another nice DIY flash diffuser for built-in pop-up flash !

going for ixus series? im quite an enthusiast maybe due to influence of my family member photography experience so im not very fond of ultra compact cameras...supposingly with prosumer cams like 6500 would help me to expand more on my photography learning in future...i suppose? tongue.gif

hmm personally i think S6500fd is small enuf for me oledi...i like the compact SLR looks...S9600 is definitely too big...especially its bulky lens...and its heavier sweat.gif
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Well, i think you wont go wrong with the S6500fd.

What about the powershot G series? Do they come with IS?
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QUOTE(calvin_gsc @ Jul 2 2007, 11:33 PM)
Well, i think you wont go wrong with the S6500fd.

What about the powershot G series? Do they come with IS?
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it does comes with IS.. actually the latest G7 is quite disappointing as some of the pro features from G6 are removed.. i guess canon is giving up on prosumers already as prosumers was meant to bridge the gap between DSLR and consumer grade in the past, but now the prosumer grade is seemingly flooded by a hosts of megazooms which is only competing for the longest zoom, IS technology,crappy ISO race and megapixel race more than other techs.. and the prices of the entry level DSLR are already dirt cheap.. the Canon G series will soon dissapear i guess, so is the wide angle S series which i loved too..

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is the S6500fd still on sales rack now? im worried that it might be outphased soon...any hints of successor for this model?
i wont be getting any cam yet until end of september though...
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QUOTE(kwws @ Jul 3 2007, 05:33 PM)
is the S6500fd still on sales rack now? im worried that it might be outphased soon...any hints of successor for this model?
i wont be getting any cam yet until end of september though...
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Maybe you can wait for PC Fair, 3 - 5 August 2007 (KL Convention Centre, Kuala Lumpur)

They have camera deals there as well.
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QUOTE(calvin_gsc @ Jul 3 2007, 06:08 PM)
Maybe you can wait for PC Fair, 3 - 5 August 2007 (KL Convention Centre, Kuala Lumpur)

They have camera deals there as well.
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too bad im not back to KL by that time yet... sad.gif
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fz-50??

for me.. external flash is quite important.. s5, G7, fz-50 got hot shoe whic support i-ttl instead of manual flash triger such fz-20.. don't know about s9600.. i'm eying on this model previously but the price too high at the time..

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