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Studying in Australia. Worth it?
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wargreymon12
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 Jul 31 2019, 01:06 AM
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Getting Started
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QUOTE(kingz113 @ Jul 31 2019, 12:10 AM) Too many variables. Is your sibling naturally gifted in his studies? Is he in a high demand course? Is his line of study having an excess supply of graduates? UK undergoing Brexit certainly affects job prospects as well. For 800k, if all your sibling got was a run off the mill degree at a crappo uni, then hell no not worth it at all. If it's a good uni and good degree, then not being able to secure a job appears to be a candidate issue. I got 2 degrees for about 100k and it's a bargain for what I got (90% scholarship with no bond). Also was already working in a big 4 corporate when I completed my final sem. Coming back here and getting a fresh graduate salary means nothing as well. Management trainee pays around that amount, but if he learnt anything useful from his uni days, this wage will triple or quadruple in no time at all. Overseas education is crucial imo if only you are exposed to western culture and are challenged to adapt to their way of learning (Socratic learning and expression of opinion). I came back here and was fundamentally baffled at how low quality uni grads here are. Alot of smart cookies but could only regurgitate what was in the textbook. Pretty sure we already have a computer for that. 1) alevels and then uni. overall 5 years of study. no--basic bachelor of science course. GPA about 2.5 only. 2) low quality/not smart..but pay is the same right? |
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filage
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Jul 31 2019, 04:25 PM
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How about if JPA sponsored you to Australia?
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Red_rustyjelly
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Jul 31 2019, 04:29 PM
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i choose the cheapest education fees available back then when i study in Aussie for 3 years.
Because, i don't like education. It is merely a stepping stone to know about other culture experienced and preparation for migration.
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touristking
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Jul 31 2019, 05:08 PM
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QUOTE(lalola0101 @ Jul 29 2019, 03:23 PM) Hi guys, I’m a Malaysian student planning to study in Australia who’s in a huge dilemma. My parents are not super rich but they can afford to send me abroad to further my undergrad studies. I’m just wondering what everyones opinion is on studying an undergraduate degree in Australia and then getting a work visa to work there. Would the money (300-400k) be better off spent in investments or would going overseas enrich my life and career in the long term? I hope I can get some opinions/advice from u guys  This is my first time posting and asking for advice. Pls let me know if I should be posting elsewhere. Thanks in advance guys What subject? If your family are not super rich and it's not a course that is unavailable in Malaysia or a postgraduate course, I don't think it's worth it. Take accountancy or business study as examples. There are plenty of local university graduate that have no problem competing with oversea graduate. Instead your work attitude could be more important. And with the 300K money saved from not going to Australia, there are many things you could use it for. Buy a house. Start a business. |
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touristking
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Jul 31 2019, 05:09 PM
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QUOTE(2feidei @ Jul 29 2019, 03:34 PM) the experience, priceless....but, again, really depends on your financial There are Malaysian students, while overseas, study together, play together, stay together. Negligible experience to talk about. So it depends a lot on the individual. |
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touristking
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Jul 31 2019, 05:12 PM
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QUOTE(filage @ Jul 30 2019, 07:05 AM) Is studying Law in Australia useful? When coming back, you have to sit for the difficult to pass CLP. Better go check those out to confirm |
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SUS2feidei
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Jul 31 2019, 05:13 PM
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QUOTE(touristking @ Jul 31 2019, 05:09 PM) There are Malaysian students, while overseas, study together, play together, stay together. Negligible experience to talk about. So it depends a lot on the individual. betul gak.......really depends on individuals |
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MGM
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Jul 31 2019, 06:27 PM
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QUOTE(Red_rustyjelly @ Jul 31 2019, 04:29 PM) i choose the cheapest education fees available back then when i study in Aussie for 3 years. Because, i don't like education. It is merely a stepping stone to know about other culture experienced and preparation for migration. So what is the outcome? U working in Oz now? |
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Red_rustyjelly
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Jul 31 2019, 06:45 PM
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QUOTE(MGM @ Jul 31 2019, 06:27 PM) So what is the outcome? U working in Oz now? i came back, worked for MNC for few years and then started my own business about 9 years back. today I have 1 main business and 1 side income business. I got myself a PR few years ago, but I keep it as an option just in case political instability here happen. I do live in Oz on and off for few months to keep the PR alive. Part of the reason why i didn't move there yet because my company doing well, paying me more than what i can get in Aussie. I was preparing to sell my company to open a small business in aussie maybe in another few years time. to be honest, business prospect in Malaysia is better than in Aussie. especially the connectivity with the outside world. In Aussie is so hard to import stuff into down under before of strict regulation and less mass(population) per town, meaning turn over won't be as high as a crowded place like KL. |
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filage
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Jul 31 2019, 08:12 PM
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A bit digression, can someone enlighten how State Sponsored Australian Migration Visa works?
Is it a person has to sift through various state government sites and submit EOI?
And if given a reply, one has 60 days to submit all the relevant documents?
Any costs involved and what if you failed to be accepted, can you start EOI again and again?
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xxbeyondxx
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Jul 31 2019, 10:57 PM
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New Member
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Only if u planning on staying on, RM300-400k is for 2 years+ which allows you to have a higher chance for permanent residency. But it is very hard to enter now as compared to 2 years ago. If u really want to stay in Australia you'd need to spend more than RM500k and work hard.
If money is important to your parents please plan well. If u plan to just study there and come back home then let your parents know in advance. If u want to study overseas it's not necessary to spend 2 years + on it. Try 6 months 1 year programs.
source: Spent RM300-400k and 2 years for masters in Australia.
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kenlimfornication
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Aug 1 2019, 11:13 AM
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QUOTE(filage @ Jul 31 2019, 04:25 PM) How about if JPA sponsored you to Australia? I thought there is no more JPA? |
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MGM
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Aug 1 2019, 11:19 AM
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QUOTE(kenlimfornication @ Aug 1 2019, 11:13 AM) I thought there is no more JPA? Top 20 straight A+ students only. The rest of 400+ local U. |
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SUSBora Prisoner
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Aug 1 2019, 01:36 PM
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yup, worth it.
Think the best part of my life was studying overseas
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Chinoz
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Aug 1 2019, 03:41 PM
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QUOTE(lalola0101 @ Jul 29 2019, 10:23 PM) Hi guys, I’m a Malaysian student planning to study in Australia who’s in a huge dilemma. My parents are not super rich but they can afford to send me abroad to further my undergrad studies. I’m just wondering what everyones opinion is on studying an undergraduate degree in Australia and then getting a work visa to work there. Would the money (300-400k) be better off spent in investments or would going overseas enrich my life and career in the long term? I hope I can get some opinions/advice from u guys This is my first time posting and asking for advice. Pls let me know if I should be posting elsewhere. Thanks in advance guys Yes. As the saying goes, to a worm in a horseradish, the whole world is horseradish. Think of it as a form of investment in yourself, but it is also up to you to make the experience count. Further, you can work part time in the interim to help alleviate the cost of living. It'll not be pretty, but it does prepare you for what's to come in adulthood  |
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MGM
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Aug 2 2019, 06:30 AM
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QUOTE(empire23 @ Aug 1 2019, 08:39 AM) To be honest with you, I'm doubtful in regards to the economic benefits of studying overseas. Been there and done that and I figured that while there are secondary benefits such as the cultural exchange, learning to live independently and so forth, I feel that all of these can be replicated locally. People put a strong emphasis on the teaching standards and so on. My opinion after being in industry for a near decade is that 99 percent of what they teach you in an Angmoh uni is just as useless when you come out to work. You're just there for the paper as much as people like the sugarcoat it all. Being in the top 100 is just for naming prestige, that why I chose the unis I went to. I didn't really feel I was magically going to get a bajillion skills more than Joe bloggs who went to University of Woop Woop. QUOTE(Chinoz @ Aug 1 2019, 03:41 PM) Yes. As the saying goes, to a worm in a horseradish, the whole world is horseradish. Think of it as a form of investment in yourself, but it is also up to you to make the experience count. Further, you can work part time in the interim to help alleviate the cost of living. It'll not be pretty, but it does prepare you for what's to come in adulthood For me I would opt to study locally, save the few hundred k to start a business or start investing which will Definitely prepare me more than adulthood. |
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Drian
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Aug 2 2019, 09:44 AM
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If you come back here to work definitely not worth it.
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MGM
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Aug 2 2019, 11:31 AM
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QUOTE(Drian @ Aug 2 2019, 09:44 AM) If you come back here to work definitely not worth it. If one is exceptional good n wanted in profession overseas then it makes sense. |
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afoka
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Aug 2 2019, 11:34 AM
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Lubuk kerja kat Arab peninsular la dey. Org Arab malas nk mampus.. Byk migrants dpt kerja... But mostly kontrak.
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utellme
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Aug 4 2019, 01:38 AM
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It was best part of my life studying overseas 35 years ago hence I sent my kids too and they done with the 2+1 and 2+2 twining programs.
Overseas education is very expensive now, if your parent financially afford and happy to fund your study in Australia, why not.
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