HP Malaysia just updates their website with the new HP Omen laptops. The laptops come with i7-9750J, but RTX series graphics cards as listed below:
https://store.hp.com/my-en/default/omen-by-...tx-7lj90pa.html
1) RTX2070
https://store.hp.com/my-en/default/omen-by-...tx-7lj90pa.html
2) RTX2060
https://store.hp.com/my-en/default/omen-by-...tx-7lj89pa.html

Just in case I want to maintain the i7-9750H CPU but downgrade the GPU from GTX1660Ti to GTX1650, I can downgrade to the following laptops:
1) HP Gaming Pavilion
https://store.hp.com/my-en/default/hp-gamin...tx-7hr37pa.html
2) Illegear Raven
https://store.illegear.com/game-ready-perfo...gear-raven.html
3) Illegear Raven SE
https://store.illegear.com/game-ready-perfo...r-raven-se.html
4) Dell G3 15 Gaming Laptop (3590)
https://www.dell.com/en-my/shop/laptops-and...p/w5160106myw10
5) MSI GF-63 Thin
https://www.msi.com/Laptop/GF63-Thin-9SX-GTX

PS: I think I might have to ask admin to revise the title of this thread from 'Illegear Prodigy' to 'Entry Level Laptop with i7-9750H and GTX1660Ti / GTX1650' because I also talk about other brand and model.

Omen don't have good CPU cooling unless you're ok with max fan all time. Pavilion Gaming is bad. G3 don't have good cooling. MSI GF is bad

Thank you very much for your useful info. Btw, I have gone through your article regarding Illegear Prodigy and Illegear Raven. I notice that the temperature level for Raven is lower than Prodigy during Cinebench synthetic test. In addition, Raven comes with mechanical keyboard and subwoofer while Prodigy doesn't. Since GPU is really not important to me at the moment (at least until I graduate because I'm afraid that I might game too much until I forget to study), I can consider downgrading from Prodigy to Raven.

Thank you.

Comparing different specs and different category isn't that fair...(one thin and light, another one thicker)

Why not Raven SE? I thought you need thin and light

Note that you need to do manual CPU power limit tuning for Raven

For the mech kb I suggest you to try it out first since not everyone likes it. Also the subwoofer doesn't seem to help audio quality much (the audio quality is average after tuning, just like most Tongfang barebones)

All right, understood.


I don't really need thin laptops like MacBook pro, Asus Zenbook etc. because I think the thermal performance for that kind of laptops is not as good as their thicker counterparts. At the same time, I would like to avoid the very thick gaming laptop like the Dell Alienware series, MSI GT series and Asus Predator series etc. because they are too heavy for me even though their cooling system is good. My sweet spot is something like the previous normal size Dell Inspiron Gaming.


I think I already get used to the Razer Ornata Chroma for my desktop, but I will also try the Raven at Illegears showroom to double confirm.


I see. Thanks for highlighting about this.

This post has been edited by foxfaisal: Jul 29 2019, 01:04 PM

IMHO unless you need ray tracing (which is not very useful for a 2060), going from a 1660Ti to a 2060 is just not worth it pricing-wise:

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-GeForc...s.418980.0.html

heres a decent review
https://www.tech-critter.com/review-illegear-prodigy/

Do you think it's a good review...

This post has been edited by ZM Fong: Jul 30 2019, 03:10 PM

its a bit short
mayb not

Thank you. There are actually a few reasons why I would like to avoid the RTX20 series laptop at this moment. I have mentioned two of them before, which are:
1) The price of laptops with RTX20 series laptop is currently beyond my budget.
2) When my GPU is too powerful, I'm afraid that I might game so much that I forgot my responsibility to study :-p

In addition, I also watched 2 review videos by Dave Lee saying that currently is not the right time for normal people to buy the RTX20 series GPU. First, he says that the price vs performance for the RTX20 series graphic card is expensive at the moment. Second, he says that only a few games at this moment support the ray-tracing. Just in case if more games support ray-tracing in the future, Dave Lee advises us to only buy the GPUs that support ray tracing by the time we really need it because the price of the ray-tracing supported GPU might have become cheaper by that time. The link for the two review videos are available in the links below:
1) Don't Buy 2019 Gaming Laptops Yet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mykA0jrZWF0
2) Are 2019 Gaming Laptops Worth It Yet?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdUKug8XahU

I just notice that Dave Lee and Mathew Moniz make review videos about Acer Predator Helios 300 (2019) that comes with GTX1660Ti, which are available in the links below:
1) Dave Lee: Helios 300 (2019) - The Best $1200 Gaming Laptop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7pEmHo1CkQ&t=300s
2) Mathew Moniz: Acer Predator Helios 300 Review - The Most Requested Gaming Laptop!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwbbyaRvHFE

I heard that the Acer Predator Helios 300 (2019) have a good cooling performance (not just because of the cooling system, but also the voltage adjustment like what ZM Fong used to say previously). In addition, the blueish colour of the 2019 version looks more beautiful to me (based on my taste) than the reddish colour of the 2018 and the 2017 version. Unfortunately, so far the 2019 version that is listed on the Acer Malaysia website is only the one with RTX2060. I can also consider buying this model if the authorized distributor imports the version with GTX1660Ti. However, I'm afraid that I might lose the portability a little bit because the Helios 300 seems to be a little bit heavy (the version with RTX2060 is 2.6kg according to Acer's website).

This post has been edited by foxfaisal: Jul 31 2019, 02:07 AM

As a RTX2060 laptop owner , i will say avoid this GPU and buy the GTX1660Ti without Max-Q. I mean the 80W TDP variant not the 60W version.

Low end RTX cannot do ray tracing at acceptable performance trade offs. If this is the case , why spend more on RTX. The GTX1660Ti has a smaller die size and easier to achieve higher clockspeed than RTX2060 given the same TDP limit. Therefore performance is similar between these 2 GPU in real world game test.

Of course that is for notebooks only. Desktop variants are very different story altogether.

Thank you for your advice. I think I will stick to GTX1660Ti without Max-Q. It is not really urgent for me to buy the laptop at the moment, so I think I can still wait for a few weeks/months until more brands and models are available in the Malaysian market :-)

From my testing the clock speed is about the same

Your threat is very useful to me. I like the Helios 300 as well and I want I7 9750 + GTX1660Ti combo. But i cant find the laptop that attract me at the moment. Hopefully acer bring in the helios 300 with GTX1660Ti graphic card.

Thank you. I would like to request the admin to revise the word 'Illegear Prodigy' in my title to 'Entry Level Gaming Laptop with i7-9750H and GTX1660Ti', but I have no idea how to contact them

Btw, I think I found an Acer store on Amazon - I hope it is a legit Acer store on Amazon, just like the legit Apple store that we have on Lazada. That Acer store on Amazon sells the Predator Helios 300 2019 with i7-9750H and GTX1660Ti and ships the product to Malaysia - They have 2 versions as listed below:
1) With Blue Backlit Keyboard
https://www.amazon.com/Acer-Predator-i7-975..._web_2528871011
2) With 4-zone RGB Backlit Keyboard
https://www.amazon.com/Acer-Predator-i7-975...1KFG9BQRPBW8AKY

If Acer Malaysia still doesn't import the Predator Helios 300 2019 that comes with i7-9750H and GTX1660Ti but we still want that model so freaking bad, I think I the only alternative that we have is to buy it from that Amazon store. However, the Malaysian credit cardholders won't be able to utilize the 0% Easy Instalment facility if they buy anything from foreign merchants. In addition, I have no idea how does the warranty work for the Acer laptops that we buy from that Acer store in Amazon (I hope that store in Amazon is a legit Acer store).

This post has been edited by foxfaisal: Jul 31 2019, 08:48 PM

no warranty

I'm crying

Anyway, I hope that there are alternative models by the time Zelmel and I really need to buy the laptop (still uses i7-9750H and GTX1660Ti, but with equal or better cooling performance and not so much price difference) if Acer Malaysia still doesn't want to import the Predator Helios 300 with i7-9750H and GTX1660Ti.

This post has been edited by foxfaisal: Jul 31 2019, 08:59 PM

Actually. Can you list again your budget together with your preference on weight and battery life?

Budget: Below RM6k
Prefered CPU and GPU: i7-9750H and GTX1660Ti
Prefered weight and thickness: My sweet spot is around 2.65Kg weight and 25.44mm thick, just like the Dell Inspiron gaming in the link below. No need to be too thin until sacrificing the cooling performance and also no need to be too heavy until sacrificing portability.
https://www.lelong.com.my/dell-inspiron-15-...8-06-Sale-P.htm

RGB keyboard is not really important, but a bonus.

PS: I can also even consider buying the last year's Dell Inspiron gaming in the link above if the seller sells legit stocks from Dell Malaysia :-)

Thank you