Like a contract role, I work remotely for sg company, do I have to pay income tax?
Declare remote job income in Malaysia
Declare remote job income in Malaysia
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Jul 18 2019, 10:28 PM, updated 7y ago
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Like a contract role, I work remotely for sg company, do I have to pay income tax?
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Jul 18 2019, 10:37 PM
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Jul 18 2019, 10:43 PM
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Hello LHDN
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Jul 19 2019, 01:17 AM
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Jul 19 2019, 01:28 AM
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Jul 19 2019, 02:10 AM
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Jul 19 2019, 02:44 AM
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Jul 19 2019, 08:01 AM
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you work remotely...
so how do the pay you? if cash, should be no problem... if thru bank... wait till it trigger ☻ you can run... but u can not hide from the "lembaga" |
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Jul 19 2019, 09:27 AM
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You work remotely for Sg company, but salary you received from Sg company or from My company?
If your salary paid from Sg, then no need pay. Only if your salary is paid in My, then yes, you need to pay. Faham tak? |
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Jul 19 2019, 09:31 AM
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it depend on how ur salary been paid
if you salary is paid to your SG account and you pay SG tax. then u no need to pay in MY if you salary paid directly to you in MY, Yes you need to pay MY tax there is a guide in LHDN, but i too lazy to dig LHDN website |
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Jul 19 2019, 09:33 AM
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QUOTE(lowyat9999 @ Jul 19 2019, 09:31 AM) it depend on how ur salary been paid this!!!if you salary is paid to your SG account and you pay SG tax. then u no need to pay in MY if you salary paid directly to you in MY, Yes you need to pay MY tax there is a guide in LHDN, but i too lazy to dig LHDN website |
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Jul 19 2019, 09:52 AM
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if you work and stay more than 182 (or 190?) days inside Malaysia, then you need to pay M'sia tax, especially if SG company pays you via TT in MYR.
if SG pays you in SGD into SG bank account, then you may need to check your employment contract if you need to pay tax in SG or in MY, but not both. MY & SG has double-tax-agreement. If your SG co says you no need pay tax in SG, then you will need to declare/pay in MY. |
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Jul 20 2019, 09:50 PM
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I am Malaysian, I work remotely for a US company and I am based in KL. The answer is yes, you need to pay taxes.
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Jul 20 2019, 11:19 PM
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Jul 20 2019, 11:20 PM
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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Jul 19 2019, 09:52 AM) if you work and stay more than 182 (or 190?) days inside Malaysia, then you need to pay M'sia tax, especially if SG company pays you via TT in MYR. so if you be at other country for 191 days you no need to pay? that can save a lot lol!if SG pays you in SGD into SG bank account, then you may need to check your employment contract if you need to pay tax in SG or in MY, but not both. MY & SG has double-tax-agreement. If your SG co says you no need pay tax in SG, then you will need to declare/pay in MY. |
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Jul 21 2019, 01:35 AM
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Jul 21 2019, 11:10 AM
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QUOTE(Khai92 @ Jul 20 2019, 11:19 PM) Go do your own self contribution for both employee and employer (11 + 13%) , then submit claim for next month for the employer portion. Unless you are contract based, otherwise do not be stupid and not claim the local benefits. PCB is up to you, else have to pay lump sum duing tax filing.QUOTE(Khai92 @ Jul 20 2019, 11:20 PM) That is just one of the criteria. If your income is generated in Malaysia, you still need to pay tax. e.g. If Robert Kuok stays full time in HK, but has a company generating income in Malaysia, with his name as the director and getting income, do you think based on this rule he needs to pay Malaysia tax for that part ? |
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Jul 21 2019, 04:08 PM
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Jul 22 2019, 12:18 AM
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QUOTE(wayton @ Jul 21 2019, 04:08 PM) EPF is not related to tax income issue. it's good to pump small portion to epf coz it has high percentage of returnIt can be treated you as company in Malaysia provide service (contractual) to an overseas company, and receive contractual payment from the overseas company. |
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Jul 22 2019, 09:28 AM
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Jul 22 2019, 01:13 PM
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Jul 22 2019, 02:13 PM
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Jul 22 2019, 03:19 PM
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QUOTE(Khai92 @ Jul 18 2019, 10:28 PM) First thing is to determine your tax residencyi.e. where you stay for more than 60/90/180 days. If you got any kind of PR then check double tax treaty. But you contract work is definitely taxable, just depends on which country's tax you will pay. I'm incline to say you have to pay in Malaysia given the limited info. Nowadays, it's harder to hide from tax because they have access to your bank account. Unless your employee pays you in bit coin, hard cash or something with no train in the system. |
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Jan 5 2021, 08:41 AM
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Jan 5 2021, 03:23 PM
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I am in your position, I'm freelancing for a UK company earning $3k/month. They pay me through Transferwise which I then transfer out to my local bank account.
Just talked to LHDN on this issue last week, here is what they told me. If your income is taxed from the source country, you will not need to pay double the tax in MY (meaning tax free). But if your income is not taxed from the country of origin (ie, you get the full pay/gaji kasar), you will need to declare and pay the income tax in Malaysia IF you are a tax residence residing in Malaysia for more than 180 days. Pretty sux eh? I though I'd get the zero income tax... 🤷🏻♂️ Oh well, since you're getting tax for it, might as well create your own company to receive the overseas income so that you can actually use it for loan approval lol. (Doing it this year for my overseas income) |
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Jan 5 2021, 10:09 PM
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Question though - if you work freelance, are you expected to pay any taxes? If yes, starting from how much income are you earning?
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Jan 5 2021, 11:43 PM
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What freelance only. You receive income from house rent to someone also need to calculate into tax
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Jan 5 2021, 11:45 PM
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Jan 5 2021, 11:47 PM
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QUOTE(wadzee95 @ Jan 5 2021, 03:23 PM) I am in your position, I'm freelancing for a UK company earning $3k/month. They pay me through Transferwise which I then transfer out to my local bank account. You pay tax where there money derived. True.Just talked to LHDN on this issue last week, here is what they told me. If your income is taxed from the source country, you will not need to pay double the tax in MY (meaning tax free). But if your income is not taxed from the country of origin (ie, you get the full pay/gaji kasar), you will need to declare and pay the income tax in Malaysia IF you are a tax residence residing in Malaysia for more than 180 days. Pretty sux eh? I though I'd get the zero income tax... 🤷🏻♂️ Oh well, since you're getting tax for it, might as well create your own company to receive the overseas income so that you can actually use it for loan approval lol. (Doing it this year for my overseas income) Non residence is other issue, you pay taxes flat rates. |
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Oct 29 2024, 02:50 PM
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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Jul 21 2019, 11:10 AM) Go do your own self contribution for both employee and employer (11 + 13%) , then submit claim for next month for the employer portion. Unless you are contract based, otherwise do not be stupid and not claim the local benefits. PCB is up to you, else have to pay lump sum duing tax filing. Hi there, sorry for necro-ing old threads, but I need clarification on this.If you have to pay both employee+employer portion, does that mean that you're receiving the salary as a sole prop/enterprise? Also, what do you mean by "submit claim next month for employer portion"? Submit what claim? Claim from who and for what purpose? From LHDN as tax relief? A lot of question marks here. What kind of borang (B or BE) do you file? Appreciate your reply! |
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Oct 30 2024, 08:28 PM
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QUOTE(Aurora Boreali @ Oct 29 2024, 02:50 PM) Hi there, sorry for necro-ing old threads, but I need clarification on this. Disclaimer: It has been some time and rules may have changed now.If you have to pay both employee+employer portion, does that mean that you're receiving the salary as a sole prop/enterprise? Also, what do you mean by "submit claim next month for employer portion"? Submit what claim? Claim from who and for what purpose? From LHDN as tax relief? A lot of question marks here. What kind of borang (B or BE) do you file? Appreciate your reply! I'm hired as permanent employee (not contractor) directly from overseas with a letter I'm paid in MYR equivalent and the company TT into my back account. The company also agreed to follow local laws then, hence I'm entitled to submit and claim back the employer portion of EPF. I understand in recent years, this is no longer allowed or is illegal. Submit what claims ? I submitted a lot of claims every month then: 1) Claim back the EPF employer portion I pay. e.g. I self-contribute 1100+1300 = 2400. I claim back 1300 the next month. 2) Claim back the TT forex loses. When it is 5-digits, the forex loses can be tens/hundreds. 3) expenses/meals 4) foreign flight+accomodation 5) local travel/mileage+accomodation 6) benefits. For what reason ? If I don't do it, I would lose out on the employer portion every month. I fill up BE at that time as it is not a business. |
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Oct 30 2024, 09:27 PM
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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Oct 30 2024, 08:28 PM) Disclaimer: It has been some time and rules may have changed now. Thank you for your reply!I'm hired as permanent employee (not contractor) directly from overseas with a letter I'm paid in MYR equivalent and the company TT into my back account. The company also agreed to follow local laws then, hence I'm entitled to submit and claim back the employer portion of EPF. I understand in recent years, this is no longer allowed or is illegal. Submit what claims ? I submitted a lot of claims every month then: 1) Claim back the EPF employer portion I pay. e.g. I self-contribute 1100+1300 = 2400. I claim back 1300 the next month. 2) Claim back the TT forex loses. When it is 5-digits, the forex loses can be tens/hundreds. 3) expenses/meals 4) foreign flight+accomodation 5) local travel/mileage+accomodation 6) benefits. For what reason ? If I don't do it, I would lose out on the employer portion every month. I fill up BE at that time as it is not a business. |
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