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SUSKhai92
post Jul 18 2019, 10:28 PM, updated 7y ago

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Like a contract role, I work remotely for sg company, do I have to pay income tax?
SUS2feidei
post Jul 18 2019, 10:37 PM

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post Jul 18 2019, 10:43 PM

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Hello LHDN
SUSKhai92
post Jul 19 2019, 01:17 AM

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QUOTE(2feidei @ Jul 18 2019, 10:37 PM)
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An accountant say no lol
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post Jul 19 2019, 01:28 AM

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QUOTE(Khai92 @ Jul 19 2019, 01:17 AM)
An accountant say no lol
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When you got tax penalty, ask the accountant to pay for you biggrin.gif
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post Jul 19 2019, 02:10 AM

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QUOTE(2feidei @ Jul 19 2019, 01:28 AM)
When you got tax penalty, ask the accountant to pay for you  biggrin.gif
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You should show me why I should trust you not the accountant, have you worked remotely before?
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post Jul 19 2019, 02:44 AM

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QUOTE(Khai92 @ Jul 19 2019, 02:10 AM)
You should show me why I should trust you not the accountant, have you worked remotely before?
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Up to you whether u want to trust me or the accountant. I got nothing to lose, but, if u really trust your accountant, why ask here? whistling.gif
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post Jul 19 2019, 08:01 AM

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you work remotely...
so how do the pay you?
if cash, should be no problem...
if thru bank... wait till it trigger ☻
you can run... but u can not hide from the "lembaga"
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post Jul 19 2019, 09:27 AM

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You work remotely for Sg company, but salary you received from Sg company or from My company?
If your salary paid from Sg, then no need pay.
Only if your salary is paid in My, then yes, you need to pay.

Faham tak?
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post Jul 19 2019, 09:31 AM

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it depend on how ur salary been paid

if you salary is paid to your SG account and you pay SG tax. then u no need to pay in MY

if you salary paid directly to you in MY, Yes you need to pay MY tax

there is a guide in LHDN, but i too lazy to dig LHDN website

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post Jul 19 2019, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(lowyat9999 @ Jul 19 2019, 09:31 AM)
it depend on how ur salary been paid

if you salary is paid to your SG account and you pay SG tax. then u no need to pay in MY

if you salary paid directly to you in MY, Yes you need to pay MY tax

there is a guide in LHDN, but i too lazy to dig LHDN website
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this!!!
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post Jul 19 2019, 09:52 AM

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if you work and stay more than 182 (or 190?) days inside Malaysia, then you need to pay M'sia tax, especially if SG company pays you via TT in MYR.

if SG pays you in SGD into SG bank account, then you may need to check your employment contract if you need to pay tax in SG or in MY, but not both. MY & SG has double-tax-agreement. If your SG co says you no need pay tax in SG, then you will need to declare/pay in MY.

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post Jul 20 2019, 09:50 PM

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I am Malaysian, I work remotely for a US company and I am based in KL. The answer is yes, you need to pay taxes.
SUSKhai92
post Jul 20 2019, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(ventolin @ Jul 20 2019, 09:50 PM)
I am Malaysian, I work remotely for a US company and I am based in KL. The answer is yes, you need to pay taxes.
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you do it yourself? how about epf?
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post Jul 20 2019, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Jul 19 2019, 09:52 AM)
if you work and stay more than 182 (or 190?) days inside Malaysia, then you need to pay M'sia tax, especially if SG company pays you via TT in MYR.

if SG pays you in SGD into SG bank account, then you may need to check your employment contract if you need to pay tax in SG or in MY, but not both. MY & SG has double-tax-agreement. If your SG co says you no need pay tax in SG, then you will need to declare/pay in MY.
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so if you be at other country for 191 days you no need to pay? that can save a lot lol!
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post Jul 21 2019, 01:35 AM

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QUOTE(Khai92 @ Jul 20 2019, 11:19 PM)
you do it yourself? how about epf?
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Fortunately my employer outsourced all the local taxes & pension matter to a local HR partner here so they sort it out for me
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post Jul 21 2019, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(Khai92 @ Jul 20 2019, 11:19 PM)
you do it yourself? how about epf?
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Go do your own self contribution for both employee and employer (11 + 13%) , then submit claim for next month for the employer portion. Unless you are contract based, otherwise do not be stupid and not claim the local benefits. PCB is up to you, else have to pay lump sum duing tax filing.

QUOTE(Khai92 @ Jul 20 2019, 11:20 PM)
so if you be at other country for 191 days you no need to pay? that can save a lot lol!
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That is just one of the criteria. If your income is generated in Malaysia, you still need to pay tax.
e.g. If Robert Kuok stays full time in HK, but has a company generating income in Malaysia, with his name as the director and getting income, do you think based on this rule he needs to pay Malaysia tax for that part ?

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post Jul 21 2019, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(Khai92 @ Jul 20 2019, 11:19 PM)
you do it yourself? how about epf?
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EPF is not related to tax income issue.

It can be treated you as company in Malaysia provide service (contractual) to an overseas company, and receive contractual payment from the overseas company.

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post Jul 22 2019, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(wayton @ Jul 21 2019, 04:08 PM)
EPF is not related to tax income issue.

It can be treated you as company in Malaysia provide service (contractual) to an overseas company, and receive contractual payment from the overseas company.
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it's good to pump small portion to epf coz it has high percentage of return
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post Jul 22 2019, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(Khai92 @ Jul 22 2019, 12:18 AM)
it's good to pump small portion to epf coz it has high percentage of return
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One can always opt for self contribution if wish to.

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