First time see 0W-16
What car use this oil?



This post has been edited by Ikmal404: Jul 15 2019, 08:59 PM

Next standard API SP promote 0W-16, the shield logo. 0W-20 and above use starburst logo.

Now API SN and SN+ promote 0W-20.

This post has been edited by RicoT: Jul 15 2019, 08:49 PM

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crazy, what engine uses such light EO

it's like no protection at all

Maybe for hybrid?
I don't know.
Turbo can use this or not

This post has been edited by Ikmal404: Jul 15 2019, 08:59 PM

turbo especially cannot use such light oil

Already saw it on Revenol website like over a year ago

Now new jap car all use 0w20 dy

LL series?

0W-20 already extremely light..they use on hybrid
0W-16?...fuuuhh....it's like 0W-15 is too light, so they make is +1 to 0W-16 for to be the lightest

For hybrid and new car.

Perodua also using 0w20 nowadays

Problem is 0w20 ia not well suited for very hot country like us


It wi become too thin when ambient temperature over 35 degree

i cant brain now

So thin......

If the owner's manual recommend minimum 5W-30, then that is the eco drive level. If you heavy footed, i.e. zoom here and there, use the next level up, which is 5W-40. Over time, piston ring will get worn out if you zoom a lot with 5W-30 and starts to consume engine oil, move to 5W-40. If it is getting worse, then it is time to overhaul.

Civic 1.5T if no heavy foot, can use 0W-20. If rev redline a lot, use 5W-30.

Wait, what?

That is on the car manual


Dont blame. Me

higher viscosity is always better protection to the engine
that's why i say this 0W16 is like no protection at all


no need to brain
the grade doesn't make sense to begin with
engine is +10 in increment....20,30, 40, 50
will never suddenly be 16

is modern world with new much precise technology, using old oil may reduce engine performance, in the future engine oil might just act as thin protection + cooling.

Newer engine can accept 0W-16, tolerances between cylinder wall and piston ring is smaller due to the use of aluminum block and improve manufacturing technique. Also, new additives in engine oil helps with sheer resistance, which keeps the oils film intact, hence enabling the use of lower viscosity engine oil.

Google up API SN+, API SP or ILSAC GF-6 and engine LSPI protection.

Of course if engine are manufactured to suit 5W-30, cannot use 0W-16. 0W-16 is quite a new engine oil viscosity standard, I doubt Malaysia needs something like this since emission is not our concern, still using Euro 2M and 4M petrol. Why bother with emission?

This post has been edited by RicoT: Jul 15 2019, 10:28 PM

This can use on Honda Civic turbo no problem

0W-0 next year. wawasan 2020.

Inspira also use 20w, now its 2019, 16w is logic

Nope.

GF-5 = 0W-16
GF-6 = 0W-16 or 0W-12
GF-7 = 0W-8(?)

i believe more toward these manufacturers are coming out with lighter and lighter oil
so that engine wears out faster so u can faster go repair it or buy another car

like what scotty kilmer usually say
same as any parts within the car


using W20 oil on inspira is like cari pasal
it's made to use W30, better protection thn use W40

It is all about efficiency and conforming to emission standards, all car manufacturers need to achieve the same goal, so all will come out with the same type of engines using newer engine oil. If you feel car manufacturers are scheming as such, then no need to buy new car. Except for hybrid, low pressure turbo, Mazda Skyactiv-X, there is not much breakthrough in engine technology to reduce emission standards. So, manufacturers are also depending on new lighter engine oil to achieve their target.

Engine wear is dependent on owner how they maintain it and drive it. If drive like race car, sure will break down sooner. Different drive style, different scenario, different needs, different engine oil.

Long track racing, heavier better because less volatility at prolong high engine temperature. Drag racing, lighter better, because zoom a few seconds and stop, light engine oil reduce viscous oil film drag on piston. Regardless of it, after race, these race cars will change their engine oil. If normal car drive like that, sure gg sooner as normal people don't change engine oil often, sticking to 10,000km change while drive like maniac.

5W-30 were introduced in 1980s, the people back then also skeptical about it. Now, 0W-20 is the new norm.

amg confirm

all the bolded part cost a bomb to repair it which is what manufacturers want u to do
and they're never gonna be as reliable as an N/A engine

and they're scamming us, why?
because compared today's car with 1990s car, big difference in reliability in terms of part's durability

but it makes sense for them to do it so money keeps coming in
because if the money flow in slows down or stop, it will end up closing doors

Some not all, like small turbo with small engine and high HP car...

Amsoil or PPU, period.

If you compare emission standards in the 90s vs now, there is a huge difference. Older cars are reliable (depends on brand) because of steel engine block, but heavy and consumes more fuel, and some also cost a lot to repair. NA engine ease of maintenance, but no power and slow. Also, you feel modern cars breaks down often is because of a few factors, part of it is our Euro 2M fuel. New cars especially the newer engines from foreign brands already move towards Euro 5/6 standard, yet our dirty Euro 2M fuel will clog it up with excess carbon in no time. Need to know how to maintain, and most owners are the buy and drive type. If there is no emission standard, car won't be as fuel efficient as today, will still stuck in 4AT like Myvi. Also, back in 90s, electronics in car are less, and you can abuse it yet it will still run.

emission and FC will of course improve
but at what cost?...no such thing is perfect...theres always a drawback

drawback is reliability

old engine is more reliable is because they use thick oil as well, 20W-50, 10W-40
at the cost of bad FC
there is always a drawback

Reliability is also dependent on maintenance. You think those old car still functioning properly even without proper maintenance?

honda recommend i use 0w-20 in my city so thats what ive been using since the 1st service.

yeah, honda normally 0w20. and their EO is cheap.

Where to buy???
Wish to try ...

I'm using 0W-20 since 2011 for my CAMPRO engine until now already clocked in 220K, still in optimum condition.

Agree
those can't accept just use old car with W-50 oil so called better protection

Say most of the time u are on highway with high revs, better stick with w40 ?

If you whack your engine more, use more viscous engine oil for better protection, since fuel efficiency is not your concern already, why bother with less viscous engine oil designed for fuel efficiency? But if use too thick engine oil like xW-50, engine no power and sound rougher pulak because need to push through thicker oil.

It depends on your car. If your car lowest engine oil viscosity requirement is 0W-20, then 5W-30 is the next level up. If 5W-30 lowest then 5W-40. Modern engine oil lubrication and thermal degradation resistance performance improve with every API level, now API SN PLUS, but mid of this year change to API SP.

Then 0W-16 is available for newer cars.

Somehow lighter engine oil , the car feels lighter. Gives the perception more powerful but may be just placebo

Not placebo, imagine pushing your hand through air and pushing through water, air much less viscous than water so easier to push through, for pistons need less effort to slide along the piston walls lined with a thin layer of engine oil, oil pump need less effort to circulate the engine oil. Power gain not a lot, but you may gain some power and engine is smoother and more quiet.

This post has been edited by RicoT: Feb 8 2020, 09:38 AM

So for the power thinner better. Hmm

Later wear and tear, engine oil disappear, need to top up every week, car manufacturer laugh at you.

They always assume that they are driving at the very max of their speedometer.
Doing rounds at sepang circuit

Better acceleration, but lesser protection against piston wear and tear.

need to include in the later service interval as well
when u stretch the service interval, that wears the engine more

Saga?

Saja tanya kot kot la sapa yang tahu

Mana nak dapat AMG EO?

Can you this for my motor ex5?