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post Jul 14 2019, 08:38 AM, updated 5y ago

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So I bought my first bike - china-made/malaysian-assembly italjet buccaneer 250i

Im a new rider. got my b2 license back in 98 but ride kapchai like 5 times, never owned a bike. saw nasir haris promo video of the bike and thot eh this bike looks good (unique). would be good for a tank depan/clutch bike for learning

so paid around 14k for the bike, 1k for gears and started riding here and there, most of the times by myself. met a handful of other owners here in johor (like, 5 of them). teh tarik session once, that was it

as for the bike, heres my 2 months review:

1-this is NOT a performance bike, albeit the 250cc engine. its a lifan 17hp, youd be struggling for 110-120kmh. top at 130-140kmh but the stock upright position will make it hellish

2-nimble, excellent for city ride. but for long trip hiway ride and if you are pressed for time, youll be SEVERELY disappointed as LC and YSUKU whizzes pass by

3-tubed tires means forking extra for the tube, and the tire and tube are not something most workshop will have (tayar/tube moto jaguh/virago)

4-other key parts are scarce as well

5-so the bike is touted for custom cafe racer look. indeed, lotsa cosmetics available from online store

so if you ask me, menyesal ke beli? nope! being a new rider, i thoroughly enjoy riding here and there. and being recreational rides (rather than using it for daily commute), hopefully the maintenance will be far and apart to not hurt my wallet

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post Jul 14 2019, 09:24 AM

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Nice looking bike
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post Jul 14 2019, 01:44 PM

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buccaneer is not lifan engine...
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post Jul 14 2019, 02:07 PM

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Y not the gpx gentleman 200? Did u try that too?
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post Jul 14 2019, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(~Battousai~ @ Jul 14 2019, 02:07 PM)
Y not the gpx gentleman 200? Did u try that too?
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i didnt quite like the look of gpx gentleman: looks too modern to me with all the embellishments. i dont know if its a better bike performance-wise tho (most probably it is)

cmc released the cheaper liquid-cooled daytona after i purchased my bike which i think looks good. wouldve bought that just because its cheaper haha

no, im not a cmc fanboy. spare part susah cari + mahal, official service center tak banyak, QC for its build and after sales service could be improved a hella lot.

QUOTE(basilisk @ Jul 14 2019, 01:44 PM)
buccaneer is not lifan engine...
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i swear i thot i saw that word in the sloppy manual but i could be mistaken. cant find the manual atm

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post Jul 14 2019, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Jul 14 2019, 09:24 AM)
Nice looking bike
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thanks. rupa cantik, bunyi vtwin sedap. itu aje bestnya moto ni, yang lain hancuss haha
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post Jul 14 2019, 04:29 PM

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hmm...top speed 140km/h?
where is the bottleneck? with such big cc should go faster.
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QUOTE(cowboy_bebop @ Jul 14 2019, 08:38 AM)
So I bought my first bike - china-made/malaysian-assembly italjet buccaneer 250i

Im a new rider. got my b2 license back in 98 but ride kapchai like 5 times, never owned a bike. saw nasir haris promo video of the bike and thot eh this bike looks good (unique). would be good for a tank depan/clutch bike for learning

so paid around 14k for the bike, 1k for gears and started riding here and there, most of the times by myself. met a handful of other owners here in johor (like, 5 of them). teh tarik session once, that was it

as for the bike, heres my 2 months review:

1-this is NOT a performance bike, albeit the 250cc engine. its a lifan 17hp, youd be struggling for 110-120kmh. top at 130-140kmh but the stock upright position will make it hellish

2-nimble, excellent for city ride. but for long trip hiway ride and if you are pressed for time, youll be SEVERELY disappointed as LC and YSUKU whizzes pass by

3-tubed tires means forking extra for the tube, and the tire and tube are not something most workshop will have (tayar/tube moto jaguh/virago)

4-other key parts are scarce as well

5-so the bike is touted for custom cafe racer look. indeed, lotsa cosmetics available from online store

so if you ask me, menyesal ke beli? nope! being a new rider, i thoroughly enjoy riding here and there. and being recreational rides (rather than using it for daily commute), hopefully the maintenance will be far and apart to not hurt my wallet

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Nice looking bike. thumbsup.gif


QUOTE(leoitch @ Jul 14 2019, 04:29 PM)
hmm...top speed 140km/h?
where is the bottleneck? with such big cc should go faster.
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Bic CC doesn't translate to faster top speed. sweat.gif Too many thing you have to take into consideration.

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post Jul 14 2019, 04:41 PM

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can help me to know what other considerations?
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post Jul 14 2019, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(cowboy_bebop @ Jul 14 2019, 04:24 PM)
i swear i thot i saw that word in the sloppy manual but i could be mistaken. cant find the manual atm
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owners manual?
i would like to know too.
leme check again.

bucan is efi, the throttle respon is better than gpx tht is carb.
tht day they let ppl test ride to compare.


here it is Long Jia.

https://cn.longjia.com.cn/

since it is a china domestic bike, the cosmetic parts, spare parts, can ezly get at taobao... biggrin.gif

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post Oct 28 2019, 08:40 PM

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hows ur bike ts??

some owner already start complaining...

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post Oct 28 2019, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Oct 28 2019, 08:40 PM)
hows ur bike ts??

some owner already start complaining...
True, I oso got same problem, suspect rectifier/katab issue, batt not charging properly. I'm currently cycling 2 batteries, 1-2 months bila battery signal blink2, I swap and use battery charger to charge the almost dead one

Also right now always bawak one USB to alligator clip, just in case kalau mati tgh jalan, guna powerbank aje nak revive

Tunggu masa nak bawak sampai Shah alam claim warranty fix
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post Jan 20 2020, 06:52 AM

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Yesterday one of our Johor rider got stalled and had to dish rm100 to get the bike towed home. Most probably clutch pad issue.

I've shared my issue with rectifier but now it's fixed. Another rider had issue with jammed rear brake calipers.

So I'm sharing a disgruntled rider post posted recently.
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Well to be fair the guy might be super unlucky to have ALL the issues happening to him.

I'd say, if you really have to buy this bike, buy it only if you live in KV so trip to shah Alam SC don't feel like hell. Kalau tak, bazir masa and duit only haha
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post Jan 20 2020, 08:43 AM

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iinm, cmc italjet also got qc issues.... they need to beef up their quality to gain buyer's confidence.
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post Jan 20 2020, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(leon898 @ Jan 20 2020, 08:43 AM)
iinm, cmc italjet also got qc issues.... they need to beef up their quality to gain buyer's confidence.
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china factory mali like this... kenot do anything...

can do one thing... lower the price!!!

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post Jan 20 2020, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Jan 20 2020, 09:50 AM)
china factory mali like this... kenot do anything...

can do one thing... lower the price!!!
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Yaa… QianJiang factory (Benelli) have issues too...albeit not severe as CMC. Just a minor one.

What about Zontes? Heard the quality is good
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post Jan 20 2020, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Jan 20 2020, 09:50 AM)
china factory mali like this... kenot do anything...

can do one thing... lower the price!!!
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how about benelli bro
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post Jan 20 2020, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Jan 20 2020, 09:50 AM)
china factory mali like this... kenot do anything...

can do one thing... lower the price!!!
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how about benelli bro
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post Jan 20 2020, 11:17 AM

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need to rajin rajin join group to know..

zontes seems not many buy cos nid b-full,

others all depen on kebarangkalian n luck..
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post Jan 20 2020, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Jan 20 2020, 09:50 AM)
china factory mali like this... kenot do anything...

can do one thing... lower the price!!!
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That's the thing. Yet masuk 2020 the bike naik harga 1000 lebih!

That for me I roll eyes only. Tapi most fakap thing is when they sell the stock cst tyres at exorbitant price. Memang hantu betul!
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QUOTE(cowboy_bebop @ Jan 20 2020, 11:37 AM)
That's the thing. Yet masuk 2020 the bike naik harga 1000 lebih!

That for me I roll eyes only. Tapi most fakap thing is when they sell the stock cst tyres at exorbitant price. Memang hantu betul!
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this gives gpx msia good excuse to sell the 250 twin @ much higher price.
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post Jan 20 2020, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(redjol @ Jan 20 2020, 10:46 AM)
how about benelli bro
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which model did u wanna know?

Mine is RFS150i. same engine as 150s
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QUOTE(leon898 @ Jan 20 2020, 01:28 PM)
which model did u wanna know?

Mine is RFS150i. same engine as 150s
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new hot selling model.. leoncino 250.. saw in fb group quite number of users right now even the model just launched last year
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QUOTE(redjol @ Jan 20 2020, 04:14 PM)
new hot selling model.. leoncino 250.. saw in fb group quite number of users right now even the model just launched last year
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sorry, can't help u...as I didn't own that model. but from their fb group there is minor issue with their qc (e.g., screw and part loose). Pretty much same experience as my moped. For me it's not a big issue, but if u are picky then I suggest Z250... quite rare to see people complaint.
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QUOTE(leon898 @ Jan 20 2020, 01:28 PM)
which model did u wanna know?

Mine is RFS150i. same engine as 150s
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How this Benelli reliability compare to lc ? There are few Benelli models that with attractive price (2nd hand) rfs150 and tnt125.

But don't know about part availability and reliability. Afraid later these bike could not be repaired in the future
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QUOTE(xenith @ Mar 30 2020, 02:07 AM)
How this Benelli reliability compare to lc ? There are few Benelli models that with attractive price (2nd hand) rfs150 and tnt125.

But don't know about part availability and reliability. Afraid later these bike could not be repaired in the future
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IMHO.. go for benell,

In general China bike not up to the Jepunis standard yet, but.. among all the China bike. at least Benelli is the betterment from the rest.
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QUOTE(xenith @ Mar 30 2020, 02:07 AM)
How this Benelli reliability compare to lc ? There are few Benelli models that with attractive price (2nd hand) rfs150 and tnt125.

But don't know about part availability and reliability. Afraid later these bike could not be repaired in the future
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Pros:

i) good handling (i believe due to USD fork)
ii) good fc during city riding (best i can get is 57km/L)

Cons:

i) got qc issues here and there (minor)
ii) some workshop refused to repair this bike. But parts can be ordered online.
iii) not so refined engine. Feels rough. Compared to LC or y15, can feel that the latter are smoother

Overall okla. Value for money..i am not willing to splurge anything beyond 8k for a moped.
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QUOTE(leon898 @ Mar 30 2020, 06:35 PM)
Pros:

i) good handling (i believe due to USD fork)
ii) good fc during city riding  (best i can get is 57km/L)

Cons:

i) got qc issues here and there (minor)
ii) some workshop refused to repair this bike. But parts can be ordered online.
iii) not so refined engine. Feels rough. Compared to LC or y15, can feel that the latter are smoother

Overall okla. Value for money..i am not willing to splurge anything beyond 8k for a moped.
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Hi bro, thanks for your valuable feedback. I'm also concerned about the workshop too since it's not as common compare to Japanese bike. But with price less than 5k (2nd) and features too probably much better option compare to older gen lc eh.
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QUOTE(xenith @ Mar 30 2020, 10:05 PM)
Hi bro, thanks for your valuable feedback. I'm also concerned about the workshop too since it's not as common compare to Japanese bike. But with price less than 5k (2nd) and features too probably much better option compare to older gen lc eh.
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I bought second at rm4k. If in klang valley, no issue with the workshop...there is plenty of specialist. Luckily in my area (kuantan), I've found workshop that understand about this bike. So no issue for me
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QUOTE(Asrarudin87 @ Apr 15 2020, 03:06 PM)
Hi bro, how long have you been using this bike?
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Kau tanya aku pasal buccaneer, ke ko tanya pasal Benelli diorg cerita kat atas tu?
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QUOTE(cowboy_bebop @ Jul 14 2019, 08:38 AM)

So I bought my first bike - china-made/malaysian-assembly italjet buccaneer 250i

Im a new rider. got my b2 license back in 98 but ride kapchai like 5 times, never owned a bike. saw nasir haris promo video of the bike and thot eh this bike looks good (unique). would be good for a tank depan/clutch bike for learning

so paid around 14k for the bike, 1k for gears and started riding here and there, most of the times by myself. met a handful of other owners here in johor (like, 5 of them). teh tarik session once, that was it

as for the bike, heres my 2 months review:

1-this is NOT a performance bike, albeit the 250cc engine. its a lifan 17hp, youd be struggling for 110-120kmh. top at 130-140kmh but the stock upright position will make it hellish

2-nimble, excellent for city ride. but for long trip hiway ride and if you are pressed for time, youll be SEVERELY disappointed as LC and YSUKU whizzes pass by

3-tubed tires means forking extra for the tube, and the tire and tube are not something most workshop will have (tayar/tube moto jaguh/virago)

4-other key parts are scarce as well

5-so the bike is touted for custom cafe racer look. indeed, lotsa cosmetics available from online store

so if you ask me, menyesal ke beli? nope! being a new rider, i thoroughly enjoy riding here and there. and being recreational rides (rather than using it for daily commute), hopefully the maintenance will be far and apart to not hurt my wallet

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post Dec 28 2020, 08:35 PM

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Not actually about bikes but bored me made a 3d web scene for my malaysian kefereser

https://buccahati.netlify.app

No ads, cost 1.8mb data and works best on pc and recent phones

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post Dec 28 2020, 10:49 PM

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good one!
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post Apr 24 2021, 02:34 PM

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So its April 2021... any new buccaneers here?
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post Apr 24 2021, 07:16 PM

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In FB group even the otai2 already want to sell haha
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QUOTE(cowboy_bebop @ Apr 24 2021, 07:16 PM)
In FB group even the otai2 already want to sell haha
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why? due to maintainance cost high? or upgrade bike?
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post Apr 27 2021, 08:29 PM

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QUOTE(mcdonald13 @ Apr 27 2021, 04:20 PM)
why? due to maintainance cost high? or upgrade bike?
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Some already have other bike/bikes, other maybe wanna upgrade. Maybe due to financial issue because of covid

As an owner myself, i wouldnt be surprised if one fell out of love with this bike. Many buy this bike for the look, custom culture and nice vtwin sound. And then they realized that thats all there is
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post Apr 28 2021, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(cowboy_bebop @ Apr 27 2021, 08:29 PM)
Some already have other bike/bikes, other maybe wanna upgrade. Maybe due to financial issue because of covid

As an owner myself, i wouldnt be surprised if one fell out of love with this bike. Many buy this bike for the look, custom culture and nice vtwin sound. And then they realized that thats all there is
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oic..

i keen to purchase a cafe racer, but im doing part time grabfood..

problem would be where to locate that big bag doh.gif


edit.
and the concern of maintainance as it look like cmc doesnt have service center in penang

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post May 3 2021, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(mcdonald13 @ Apr 28 2021, 11:37 AM)
oic..

i keen to purchase a cafe racer, but im doing part time grabfood..

problem would be where to locate that big bag  doh.gif
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and the concern of maintainance as it look like cmc doesnt have service center in penang
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Haven't seen buccaneer riders pasang delivery bag kat belakang but ramai yang pasang side bags

I saw a video of chopper charles buccaneer (from the US), he installed a rear mount on his bike. So yeah just a matter of finding that mount bracket haha

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https://youtu.be/Qw42TLWNH_8

Back when I was in Jb, when my bike got rectifier issue, i contacted hq (klang) and the seller hooked me up with a workshop in jb where I can get it fixed under warranty. But I skipped that and rode all the way to shah alam instead. That workshop in jb all big 1 litre bikes, segan pulak aku hehe

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