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leodinouknow
post Jul 7 2019, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(gld998 @ Jul 7 2019, 10:46 PM)
My parents manage for me... but but but.. I give my rental income as allowance to them.
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lol consider you buy the property for parents smile.gif
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post Jul 7 2019, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(Irresistible @ Jul 7 2019, 08:52 PM)
Just for example, u are in Penang., invest in KL.

Anyone? How to chase rental? Repair? Issue..
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rental: just bank in

repair: call anyone in the area either management, furniture shop, restaurant, ask them recomend who can do the job for you.

issue: all settle by phone call

find tenant: social media as i dont trust agent.

bill: just use jompay for majority bill

status of renovation or repair: ask them video for you before release the payment

cleaner: social media








conclusion, you need a phone to settle everything
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post Jul 8 2019, 07:26 AM

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QUOTE(Irresistible @ Jul 8 2019, 03:20 AM)
Do u really do tht?

Is it workable?
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yes. all by phone. while 1year i dont even visit more than 2time after i finish set up. my target tenant is student only, so i dont know can use same way on working adult or not. mind you student is most hassle

first problem, who is your target tenant.

second problem, are your know how to negotiate for everyhing.

third problem, chose 1 of the tenant which you think is leader type, then train him up to settle all problem for you. tenant willing do the job for rm20 to rm50 job just to cut a bit of rent.
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post Jul 8 2019, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(Bjorn1688 @ Jul 8 2019, 12:11 PM)
There are many strategies to it.

First strategy you could engage an agent to deal with everything.
Pros :-
Someone looks for a tenant for you.
Someone can chase rental collection for you depending on the contract.
Can usually get the maximum money possible.

Cons :-
Change of tenant will be an annual affair.
You will need to find someone that deals with maintenance.
Difficult to find agents that are honest.

Second strategy, you could engage a property portfolio manager.
Pro:-
This person has their own letting agents, handymen and even IDs on hand.
1 point of contact for absolutely everything.

Cons :-
Expensive (Check out the thread I have at Property Q&A on this topic)
Good ones are few and very far between.
You will find not just tenants change annually especially if they get wind that you just want some money, there will be all kinds of funny expenses and job request.
Only worth it if you are in possession of 20 or more properties and worthwhile to give salary to this person.

Third strategy is to do it yourself.
Pros :-
Tenants tend to stay longer.
Better yields.
Plenty of technology that makes it easier these days.

Cons :-
You have to get your hands dirty.
My take :-

If it is  under 5 properties, do it yourself. I know of people who are living in UK and still manage their properties in KL.

I was looking into doing the 2nd strategy as I don't have as much time as before due to job commitments. Decided not to bother as I invest for profit not to do charity.
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im still prefer 3rd strategy. profit already very less after pay installment bank. the pie still need share to stranger agent, if everything well then ok, if thing go sour, you get additional 1agent as hassle

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post Jul 8 2019, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(Bjorn1688 @ Jul 8 2019, 02:03 PM)
Same, however it also means you must be willing to get your hands dirty.

I always believe when it comes to this there is only 1 way to do it, get down to the field and get your hands dirty. Unless of course you only have properties that are fully paid off and you have money to throw, then different story.

Personally I have already decided even if I have 50 properties on hand, I will still manage it myself but I would hire a handyman to settle the maintenance issues.
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i hirer student. pay him a bit comision, ask him see youtube learn, teach him how to do, and of course a lot of encouragement word for him, make him proud work for me devil.gif

he get peanut comision, but the experience i teach is priceless.

This post has been edited by leodinouknow: Jul 8 2019, 03:51 PM
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post Jul 8 2019, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(Bjorn1688 @ Jul 8 2019, 05:01 PM)
Local or foreign student?

How has that worked out?
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local, about 18-22years range type student.

great result. even interview new tenant, close deal, cleaning service, any tenant complaint light or spoil thing, he go handle.

i just received msg, pass to him settle. dont even need visit the area anymore.
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post Jul 8 2019, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(Bjorn1688 @ Jul 8 2019, 05:39 PM)
rclxms.gif Sounds like you found yourself a gem of a tenant. This is the same one that painted an entire apartment in a day?
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different person. feel so nice become boss use finger point here point there ask people work hahaha

i remember the first property, all do myself cause wanna save cost, end up really self tired & dirty.
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post Jul 8 2019, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(Red_rustyjelly @ Jul 8 2019, 06:33 PM)
i heard speedrent is doing the collection on behalf of landlord, but at a yearly fee.
they also scan the tenant's credit profile.

looks good, anyone tried?
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basically speedrent is for those lazy to manage. but harder to get tenant as must have credit card to swipe.
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post Jul 8 2019, 08:48 PM

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QUOTE(Drian @ Jul 8 2019, 08:40 PM)
How did you find him in the first place?
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like normal tenant lo. by social media. suddenly he say want take over cleaning service, say want do some part time. then i start offer him more n more job d smile.gif

after lot of encouragement word whenever he sucess easy task, he gain more confident handle harder task. become fine soldier of mine.
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post Jul 9 2019, 01:58 AM

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QUOTE(Bjorn1688 @ Jul 9 2019, 01:51 AM)
You use social media to find tenants? As in posting it on FB Groups?
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yes, the result is better than agent. agent 1month may got 20potential tenant which ask pm pm to agent, while i get more than 200 pm enquiry. just take 2mins reply them, normally is copy paste as all the question tenant ask is the same. dont tell me during lunch or dinner you can get 5mins look at phone msg?

mostly 50% is 1-2msg stop, other 30% got talk longer but dont want come down look room. you just target those 20% which make appointment come visit. from 20% of 200, you need find 3-4suitable tenant only. as long as your product not too cheapskate, normally close deal is easy.

why? cause sometime not me close deal, is 18years old no experience student close the deal for me. if you able fork out 100k, 300k buy property, but lose to 18years old student in closing deal, you not suitable in negotiate business.

only two word, you dont want do it, or you dont know how to do it. dont ever ever tell me you cant do it.
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post Jul 9 2019, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(Drian @ Jul 9 2019, 11:51 AM)
Going to have this problem soon. Staying in Penang, my second rental unit in KL.
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post Jul 9 2019, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(Bjorn1688 @ Jul 9 2019, 03:40 PM)
I've always admired you for trying new and unconventional ways and means to solve problems. Also admire your persistence in never accepting or making excuses especially where there hasn't even been any attempts at trying.

Wish more people especially in the workforce and in the consumer market would do the same.
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people always call me crazy whenever i tell them the idea how i wanna make one thing work including my father. he fuck me upside down a lot time. well, maybe im more to rebel type.

i rebel, i dont follow rules, but im been calculate and research a lot for each step i when i do thing. of course including 2-3way out in case plan dont go smooth as i believe in generation keep changing, cannot keep using kampong mindset to solve problem. it may save you now, but not in future.

 

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