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Bjorn1688
post Jul 8 2019, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(Irresistible @ Jul 7 2019, 07:52 PM)
Just for example, u are in Penang., invest in KL.

Anyone? How to chase rental? Repair? Issue..
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There are many strategies to it.

First strategy you could engage an agent to deal with everything.
Pros :-
Someone looks for a tenant for you.
Someone can chase rental collection for you depending on the contract.
Can usually get the maximum money possible.

Cons :-
Change of tenant will be an annual affair.
You will need to find someone that deals with maintenance.
Difficult to find agents that are honest.

Second strategy, you could engage a property portfolio manager.
Pro:-
This person has their own letting agents, handymen and even IDs on hand.
1 point of contact for absolutely everything.

Cons :-
Expensive (Check out the thread I have at Property Q&A on this topic)
Good ones are few and very far between.
You will find not just tenants change annually especially if they get wind that you just want some money, there will be all kinds of funny expenses and job request.
Only worth it if you are in possession of 20 or more properties and worthwhile to give salary to this person.

Third strategy is to do it yourself.
Pros :-
Tenants tend to stay longer.
Better yields.
Plenty of technology that makes it easier these days.

Cons :-
You have to get your hands dirty.


My take :-

If it is under 5 properties, do it yourself. I know of people who are living in UK and still manage their properties in KL.

I was looking into doing the 2nd strategy as I don't have as much time as before due to job commitments. Decided not to bother as I invest for profit not to do charity.

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post Jul 8 2019, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(leodinouknow @ Jul 8 2019, 12:46 PM)
im still prefer 3rd strategy. profit already very less after pay installment bank. the pie still need share to stranger agent, if everything well then ok, if thing go sour, you get additional 1agent as hassle
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Same, however it also means you must be willing to get your hands dirty.

I always believe when it comes to this there is only 1 way to do it, get down to the field and get your hands dirty. Unless of course you only have properties that are fully paid off and you have money to throw, then different story.

Personally I have already decided even if I have 50 properties on hand, I will still manage it myself but I would hire a handyman to settle the maintenance issues.
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post Jul 8 2019, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(leodinouknow @ Jul 8 2019, 03:49 PM)
i hirer student. pay him a bit comision, ask him see youtube learn, teach him how to do, and of course a lot of encouragement word for him, make him proud work for me devil.gif

he get peanut comision, but the experience i teach is priceless.
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Local or foreign student?

How has that worked out?
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post Jul 8 2019, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(leodinouknow @ Jul 8 2019, 04:13 PM)
local, about 18-22years range type student.

great result. even interview new tenant, close deal, cleaning service, any tenant complaint light or spoil thing, he go handle.

i just received msg, pass to him settle. dont even need visit the area anymore.
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rclxms.gif Sounds like you found yourself a gem of a tenant. This is the same one that painted an entire apartment in a day?
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post Jul 9 2019, 12:51 AM

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QUOTE(leodinouknow @ Jul 8 2019, 08:48 PM)
like normal tenant lo. by social media. suddenly he say want take over cleaning service, say want do some part time. then i start offer him more n more job d smile.gif

after lot of encouragement word whenever he sucess easy task, he gain more confident handle harder task. become fine soldier of mine.
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You use social media to find tenants? As in posting it on FB Groups?


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post Jul 9 2019, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(leodinouknow @ Jul 9 2019, 01:58 AM)
yes, the result is better than agent. agent 1month may got 20potential tenant which ask pm pm to agent, while i get more than 200 pm enquiry. just take 2mins reply them, normally is copy paste as all the question tenant ask is the same. dont tell me during lunch or dinner you can get 5mins look at phone msg?

mostly 50% is 1-2msg stop, other 30% got talk longer but dont want come down look room. you just target those 20% which make appointment come visit. from 20% of 200, you need find 3-4suitable tenant only. as long as your product not too cheapskate, normally close deal is easy.

why? cause sometime not me close deal, is 18years old no experience student close the deal for me. if you able fork out 100k, 300k buy property, but lose to 18years old student in closing deal, you not suitable in negotiate business.

only two word, you dont want do it, or you dont know how to do it. dont ever ever tell me you cant do it.
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I've always admired you for trying new and unconventional ways and means to solve problems. Also admire your persistence in never accepting or making excuses especially where there hasn't even been any attempts at trying.

Wish more people especially in the workforce and in the consumer market would do the same.



QUOTE(Drian @ Jul 9 2019, 10:51 AM)
Going to have this problem soon. Staying in Penang, my second rental unit in KL.
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Only a problem if you make it a problem.
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post Jul 9 2019, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(leodinouknow @ Jul 9 2019, 03:43 PM)
people always call me crazy whenever i tell them the idea how i wanna make one thing work including my father. he fuck me upside down a lot time. well, maybe im more to rebel type.

i rebel, i dont follow rules, but im been calculate and research a lot for each step i when i do thing. of course including 2-3way out in case plan dont go smooth as i believe in generation keep changing, cannot keep using kampong mindset to solve problem. it may save you now, but not in future.
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Its good to be a non-conformist and a bit of a rebel. My father is definitely one, he sort of behaves like the typical eccentric Brit, the exact type that would do something because he can and the exact type that keeps long hair and a pony tail. His rules are very simple for everyone, you fuck up and make a mess then you better find out how to sort it out and clean your own shit. Rules are meant to be broken just don't get caught red handed.

Myself, I don't conform if I don't want to and rebel if I have to. If I fall, then I fall and I will get up and try again, I won't ask for a hand to help get up and going again. As they say if it doesn't kill you then it makes you stronger and wiser.

Its an absolute pity the system here doesn't accommodate rebels very well here. Little wonder we can never have any visionaries like Steve Jobs, Elon Musk or any types of such persons because somewhere along the line before they get to their full potential they are told to conform or rice bowl kicked in their face.



 

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