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TiramisuCoffee
post Jul 5 2019, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(simonblowais @ Jul 5 2019, 09:48 PM)
Donation is legal.... does not equal to original source of donation is legal....
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Meaning, irb will track ori source of donation all d way to foreign soil? Check if they hv paid up their taxes and all? hmm.gif
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post Jul 5 2019, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(OngMK @ Jul 5 2019, 09:52 PM)
LHDN didnot tax on donation money, because the money is yet to prove by jib as donation. LHDN will estimate income tax payable from money received when not submit tax return form or found out submit wrong tax return.
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rolleyes.gif Hmmm, if u scrutinise the fluctuations in taxable amount, seems like they r in sync w the donations? Could it be irb treats his donations as income ? As head of state, he can’t be earning estimable salaries from elsewhere...

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According to the notice, Najib must pay
RM116,173,374.12 (for the year 2011);
RM320,929,932.31 (2012);
RM891,573,465.46 (2013);
RM119,144,655.51 (2014); RM16,879,500.03 (2015);
RM643,445.21 (2016) and
RM346,471.41 (2017).

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post Jul 5 2019, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(OngMK @ Jul 5 2019, 09:31 PM)
For the donation, must proved to LHDN that the money received is donation and if LHDN satisfied, then it will be exempted, if not will be taxable.

For the money from overseas, income tax act stated that all income derived in Malaysia and money rendered from overseas is taxable. Have to prove overseas money is income from foreign country or donation. Donation that is exempted from tax is from parents and loved ones as those are considered as gifts and had nothing to do with services rendered.

Whether illegal money is taxabe or not. Yes, illegal money earned is taxable, when found out is illegal money, LHDN will report it to relevant parties, not LHDN job to deal with illegal money, they just tax only.
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How to prove money is donation? And it’s up to IRB to decide what’s acceptable, what’s not? What if out of the blue Bill Gates decide to pump $$$ into your personal account, simply becos he takes a liking to you. What criteria IRB will use to determine if you can/ x accept the money fr such wealthy strangeR?

Wonder if an ultra wealthy man b allowed to pay off the hefty taxes for him? I dun c how Jib will b able to pay off any amt when his ac is frozen n all... confused.gif
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post Jul 5 2019, 11:50 PM

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But he say he always pay his taxes
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post Jul 5 2019, 11:53 PM

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The story mory is like this....

Based on SPRM (MACC) findings in 2016, the money was a voluntary donation from saudi..thus based on that fact LHDN didn't tax the money received as it does not fall under Sec 4 ACP 1967.

But now under PH, SPRM said there was no proof that the money was a donation from saudi prince..so based on the new fact, the money was treated as unreported income and therefore taxable

Sekian.

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post Jul 5 2019, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Jul 5 2019, 05:37 PM)
Dun understand how come his tax so high?
Najib got business ka?

How much is his total income to get this high tax?
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cai tanya soalan yang dia dah tau kenapa... pura pura buat bodoh nak cuba spin
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post Jul 6 2019, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(M4A1 @ Jul 5 2019, 05:51 PM)
Songlap money boleh kena income tax ke?
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You got a point there.
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It flows into personal account, and Najib has spent all(distribute to his cronies).
Tax is one case, songlap is one case, donation is one case. LHDN/IRB has their stand.
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post Jul 6 2019, 12:29 AM

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QUOTE(TiramisuCoffee @ Jul 5 2019, 11:36 PM)
Meaning, irb will track ori source of donation all d way to foreign soil? Check if they hv paid up their taxes and all?  hmm.gif
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No. Irb only will check donation.. n determine if that donation is taxable. If yes then tax.

Then if corruption case or misuse relevant department like macc or police will act on it.


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QUOTE(silent_stalker @ Jul 5 2019, 05:59 PM)
I believe its hard to pin src n 1mdb on najib.

But this tax thing. He is really fucked
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The thing is about 1MDB what Najib and Jho Low do to launder the money using a legal way and that's why people in *cough* s *cough* c investigate and still can't sumbat him with 1MDB case. It's a very complex scenario and exploit the law to the max
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post Jul 6 2019, 01:24 AM

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can a PM earned so much and get taxed billions?
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post Jul 6 2019, 01:47 AM

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QUOTE(Raexim @ Jul 5 2019, 06:15 PM)
Dear future employer, please input my salary as donation so that I won't have to pay income tax.
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ayam donating money to mcd and mcd is donating me bigmac. therefore, no sst 6%.

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post Jul 6 2019, 01:50 AM

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QUOTE(gogocan @ Jul 5 2019, 11:53 PM)
The story mory is like this....

Based on SPRM (MACC) findings in 2016, the money was a voluntary donation from saudi..thus based on that fact LHDN didn't tax the money received as it does not fall under Sec 4 ACP 1967.

But now under PH, SPRM said there was no proof that the money was a donation from saudi prince..so based on the new fact, the money was treated as unreported income and therefore taxable

Sekian.
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Zahid is proof. he saw it with his own eyes.
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post Jul 6 2019, 01:57 AM

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Wow...lhdn for the win...
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post Jul 6 2019, 02:10 AM

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As usual, ph main fitnah again.
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post Jul 6 2019, 03:25 AM

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QUOTE(gogocan @ Jul 5 2019, 05:37 PM)
If najib declare bankrupt how?
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Mp carreer good bye.
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post Jul 6 2019, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(nasiputih @ Jul 6 2019, 01:50 AM)
Zahid is proof. he saw it with his own eyes.
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but he forgot to ask donuts came from 1mdb or not...

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post Jul 6 2019, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(loon90 @ Jul 5 2019, 11:50 PM)
But he say he always pay his taxes
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PM: Paying Taxes Is A Civic And Moral Responsibility
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https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4211493
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post Jul 6 2019, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(gogocan @ Jul 5 2019, 05:37 PM)
If najib declare bankrupt how?
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For our general knowledge ya.... smile.gif

What Happens When A Person Is Declared Bankrupt?
https://www.comparehero.my/debt-management/...ruptcy-malaysia
Being declared a bankrupt means an individual will have plenty of restrictions imposed upon them. Below are what will happen once a person is declared bankrupt:

Appointed A DGI
Once declared a bankrupt, a person will be assigned to the Director General of Insolvency (DGI). The DGI will administer all of the individual’s assets and manage it to repay the outstanding debts. So once declared bankrupt, a person’s assets will all be put under the administration of the DGI.

Travel Ban
An individual who has been declared bankrupt will be unable to travel out of the country without written permission from the DGI or before obtaining a court order which allows the individual to travel overseas.

Limited Credit Line
Existing bank accounts will be deactivated and a bankrupt will be barred from withdrawing any money from their existing account. Aside from that, a bankrupt is not allowed to spend more than RM1,000 on their credit card or obtain credit more than RM1,000 from any creditor.

Assets Taken Away
Once declared a bankrupt, all of the assets of the individual will be managed by the DGI. So for example an individual’s house and cars will be taken over by the DGI who will then manage it by reselling it to repay outstanding debts.

Employment Restricted
A bankrupt will not be able to work in certain professions which have restrictions imposed by their professional associations or licensing authorities. Examples of the profession a bankrupt cannot be employed as are:

Lawyer
Quantity Surveyor
Accountant
Doctor

Aside from that, once declared bankrupt an individual may not act as a director of a company. A bankrupt is also not allowed to own a business or be part of a business ownership, so no entrepreneurship is allowed once an individual has been declared a bankrupt.

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