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TSPharamain
post Jul 5 2019, 03:58 PM, updated 2y ago

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Wish to ask regarding the performance and your opinion between Intel and AMD chip. From what I check with Passmark score check and other benchmark by reviewers, AMD score are relatively lower than Intel In the test which require more than 1 core.

Aside from relatively cheap, is there worth to getting an AMD chip when it comes to laptop? Nowadays hardly any software or game would run on single Core.

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post Jul 5 2019, 04:01 PM

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You want to use for what?

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post Jul 5 2019, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(Pharamain @ Jul 5 2019, 03:58 PM)
Wish to ask regarding the performance and your opinion between Intel and AMD chip. From what I check with Passmark score check and other benchmark by reviewers, AMD score are relatively lower than Intel In the test which require more than 1 core.

Aside from relatively cheap, is there worth to getting an AMD chip when it comes to laptop? Nowadays hardly any software or game would run on single Core.

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*Data collected for recent use CPU and got collected from passmark*
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Yes there are still worth due if you specifically set the CPU core to single channel , but not all software or game applicable for this and that is why AMD right now is relative cheaper than Intel. But right now lets wait and see what AMD might have which might better than Intel
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post Jul 5 2019, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(Karvrenko @ Jul 5 2019, 04:01 PM)
You want to use for what?
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Reference for near future purchase, some laptop already beginning to use AMD chip, which I also curious on the performance and the such between Intel and AMD.
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post Jul 5 2019, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(Pharamain @ Jul 5 2019, 04:05 PM)
Reference for near future purchase, some laptop already beginning to use  AMD chip, which I also curious on the performance and the such between Intel and AMD.
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The new Ryzen series are relatively faster than Intel and Intel has yet to counter. New chip also use less power. Look at recent articles on Internet.
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post Jul 5 2019, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(Zot @ Jul 5 2019, 04:11 PM)
The new Ryzen series are relatively faster than Intel and Intel has yet to counter. New chip also use less power. Look at recent articles on Internet.
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Yup, the new parts for the desktop is good, but right now i do not think AMD on laptop really have an impact or performance, looking at the passmark, the Rayzen 7 is far behind in term of benchmark number
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post Jul 5 2019, 05:00 PM

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what disappointing is the 3rd gen series AMD laptop still using Zen+ chipset...maybe next year when they're introduce zen2 into laptop then i will consider.
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post Jul 5 2019, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(LeeroyJenkinss @ Jul 5 2019, 04:56 PM)
Yup, the new parts for the desktop is good, but right now i do not think AMD on laptop really have an impact or performance, looking at the passmark, the Rayzen 7 is far behind in term of benchmark number
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The laptop CPU is coming too. Intel is postponing the 10nm CPU while Ryzen is killing Intel on power consumption with 7nm CPU. Laptop is about low power usage.
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post Jul 5 2019, 05:08 PM

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2D autocad will benefit from strong single core performance. Recently bought a Rayzen 5 Thinkpad for my engineer. He is very happy with the performance while doing 2D cad. The most important is it is cheaper than intel i5.
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post Jul 5 2019, 05:24 PM

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For single core software usage it is nice, but no for a gaming laptop if you are looking for a gaming laptop with AMD it is a bad choice which nowadays game and most software are going dual core.

Designing wise is different story though.

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post Jul 5 2019, 05:46 PM

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Intel mobile chips are still better in terms of performance...AMD current mobile chips are based on low power chip, even the 35w 3550h/3750h. They are indeed slightly efficient, but who cares if you cannot deliver more performance

Disappointing to see how good is Ryzen in desktop chips but not in mobile chips...even don't have 6c/8c mobile chips until now...c'mon AMD
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post Jul 5 2019, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Jul 5 2019, 05:46 PM)
Intel mobile chips are still better in terms of performance...AMD current mobile chips are based on low power chip, even the 35w 3550h/3750h. They are indeed slightly efficient, but who cares if you cannot deliver more performance

Disappointing to see how good is Ryzen in desktop chips but not in mobile chips...even don't have 6c/8c mobile chips until now...c'mon AMD
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Agreed with you, i am definitely hype for the AMD on desktop, but laptop were a huge letdown, checked some other performance by reviews, the score is too huge

Intel Score:
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post Jul 5 2019, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(LeeroyJenkinss @ Jul 5 2019, 05:55 PM)
Agreed with you, i am definitely hype for the AMD on desktop, but laptop were a huge letdown, checked some other performance by reviews, the score is too huge
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The situation in mobile CPUs is 2 rotten apples choose 1...Intel chips are faster but hotter...AMD don't have high end mobile chips despite good efficiency (3rd gen in mobile chips still no news)
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post Jul 5 2019, 08:15 PM

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amd desktop apu and mobile chips is one generation behind the desktop cpu despite similar naming series of 3000 series. Depending on how one looks at mobile amd chips, i would say they are at least competent now, compared to the old a6-a12 series.

the lower amd tdp is certainly a welcome, with most laptop designs today seems to be going towards style and thin first. When reading around various forums, when someone post a problem about high temperature on intel laptops, there is always one reply that ask the thread starter to undervolt cpu, or even worse, set performance profile to 99% to disable turboboost.

as mentioned in this thread, there are only 4c/8t chips from amd, no 6c or 8c mobile chips like intel, unless it is a 8c desktop chip like the phased-out asus laptop and acer predator laptop that is not available here, hope there will be >4c chips when they bring 7nm to laptops.


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QUOTE(Eterman @ Jul 5 2019, 08:15 PM)
amd desktop apu and mobile chips is one generation behind the desktop cpu despite similar naming series of 3000 series. Depending on how one looks at mobile amd chips, i would say they are at least competent now, compared to the old a6-a12 series.

the lower amd tdp is certainly a welcome, with most laptop designs today seems to be going towards style and thin first. When reading around various forums, when someone post a problem about high temperature on intel laptops, there is always one reply that ask the thread starter to undervolt cpu, or even worse, set performance profile to 99% to disable turboboost.

as mentioned in this thread, there are only 4c/8t chips from amd, no 6c or 8c mobile chips like intel, unless it is a 8c desktop chip like the phased-out asus laptop and acer predator laptop that is not available here, hope there will be >4c chips when they bring 7nm to laptops.
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TDP means nothing - need to look at actual power consumption

You can't undervolt AMD mobile chips for now which means no further tuning

3000 series mobile is actually 2000 series desktop...yeah it's confusing
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post Jul 8 2019, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Jul 5 2019, 08:24 PM)
TDP means nothing - need to look at actual power consumption

You can't undervolt AMD mobile chips for now which means no further tuning

3000 series mobile is actually 2000 series desktop...yeah it's confusing
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They just use the older desktop model and make it into a mobile version, i rather the laptop get a slightly hotter which can be settle with good cooling or external cooling than getting the current AMD mobile chips. and the prices not really a different too

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post Jul 8 2019, 03:19 PM

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i'm actually curious about the amd processor on laptop tho, the numbers of test results are really nice but when it comes to real experience, how was it? I had an old laptop with amd processor, its burnnnn as hell.
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QUOTE(HiAwak @ Jul 8 2019, 03:19 PM)
i'm actually curious about the amd processor on laptop tho, the numbers of test results are really nice but when it comes to real experience, how was it?  I  had an old laptop with amd processor, its burnnnn as hell.
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The new 3500u/3700u is decent but battery life is a hit or miss (better than 2500u/2700u in general). Also depends on model - cooling solution and BIOS/firmware implementation

Reviewed the Ideapad S540 14 not too long ago - very good for the price, only major downside is battery life. I doubt normal users can see a difference in everyday use compared to Intel counterpart

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post Jul 9 2019, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(HiAwak @ Jul 8 2019, 03:19 PM)
i'm actually curious about the amd processor on laptop tho, the numbers of test results are really nice but when it comes to real experience, how was it?  I  had an old laptop with amd processor, its burnnnn as hell.
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If you are looking for better performance, skip AMD mobile at the moment and see whether the newer one works well.
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post Jul 9 2019, 04:50 PM

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AMD chips are basically intel's i5.



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