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post Jul 4 2019, 02:02 PM, updated 3y ago

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Japanese technology, tailored for Malaysian investors. MYTHEO makes investing accessible to everyone.

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Another Robo-Advisors in MY!!

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myTHEO just got its licence approve from SC Malaysia Feb19.
I think the concept is simple. Anyone invest via SAMY before will know how exactly the robo-advisors will work.
Before you begin, I HIGHLY recommended you to read their FAQ and the Whitepaper.
To me, the way they prepared is so good that you will eventually fully understand and will answer every question you have in your mind.

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post Jul 4 2019, 02:05 PM

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Anyone that been using both SA and MT can share their experience here and the pros and cons of both platform. What you like and what you don't like on each platform. Way to improve and your thought platform sustainability!

I will compile it and update it in post #3

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post Jul 4 2019, 02:17 PM

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post Jul 4 2019, 02:17 PM

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post Jul 4 2019, 02:18 PM

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Start investing since last week.
Risk Profile: 100% Growth
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post Jul 4 2019, 02:24 PM

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Between this and Stashaway, still too early to tell which is better yet right? But i see this has vanguard hmm.gif
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post Jul 4 2019, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(phoenix24 @ Jul 4 2019, 02:24 PM)
Between this and Stashaway, still too early to tell which is better yet right? But i see this has vanguard hmm.gif
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I'm investing into this because of their ETF offerings doesn't really overlap with SAMY.
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post Jul 4 2019, 02:33 PM

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Almost downloaded the wrong app on the phone.

then i check the website see the logo hahaha.

anyway just registered but no validation email (even after i resent)
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post Jul 4 2019, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(phoenix24 @ Jul 4 2019, 02:24 PM)
Between this and Stashaway, still too early to tell which is better yet right? But i see this has vanguard hmm.gif
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QUOTE(CardNoob @ Jul 4 2019, 02:32 PM)
I'm investing into this because of their ETF offerings doesn't really overlap with SAMY.
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I myself think that selection on MT is abit "inferior" to SA esp on its hedge fund.

I till now still don't understand why you need hedge fund when you have bond fund. and commodities can dip any time no matter market up or down.

I haven't invested on this, those who invested with MT, is the ETF follow fully or just selected from few?

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post Jul 4 2019, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Jul 4 2019, 02:34 PM)
I myself think that selection on MT is abit "inferior" to SA esp on its hedge fund.

I till now still don't understand why you need hedge fund when you have bond fund. and commodities can dip any time no matter market up or down.

I haven't invested on this, those who invested with MT, is the ETF follow fully or just selected from few?
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Excuse me, MT got hedge fund?

Which one is the hedge fund?
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post Jul 4 2019, 02:40 PM

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looking at another alternative of robo!
guess malaysia is going on fintech direction.
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post Jul 4 2019, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(CardNoob @ Jul 4 2019, 02:38 PM)
Excuse me, MT got hedge fund?

Which one is the hedge fund?
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you choose 100% growth mah. sure don't have la
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post Jul 4 2019, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(CardNoob @ Jul 4 2019, 02:38 PM)
Excuse me, MT got hedge fund?

Which one is the hedge fund?
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how much did u put ? seems alot
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post Jul 4 2019, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(preducer @ Jul 4 2019, 02:47 PM)
how much did u put ? seems alot
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MYR 2k only.
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post Jul 4 2019, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(CardNoob @ Jul 4 2019, 02:48 PM)
MYR 2k only.
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wow, imho i think if u spread the amount to few chunks would be better?
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Finally the thread dis open!

I put small small amount only first.

However, MyTheo cant add new portfolio though. And MT, if you hear me, PLEASE add "Preferred Name" feature.
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post Jul 4 2019, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(preducer @ Jul 4 2019, 02:52 PM)
wow, imho i think if u spread the amount to few chunks would be better?
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I'll do more top up when market condition tends to be weak.

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QUOTE(CardNoob @ Jul 4 2019, 02:56 PM)
I'll do more top up when market condition tends to be weak.
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that's the idea, dont want to put so much now.
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QUOTE(preducer @ Jul 4 2019, 02:58 PM)
that's the idea, dont want to put so much now.
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I'm starting to off load my holdings in FSM and pumping into this and SAMY.
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post Jul 4 2019, 05:24 PM

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Their ETF choice seems interesting.. might be trying out and see how it fares compared to SA
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QUOTE(yuiopoiuy @ Jul 4 2019, 05:24 PM)
Their ETF choice seems interesting.. might be trying out and see how it fares compared to SA
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Ikr haha.

Later don't forget to share out the % of each etf yea.

I running poor due to commitment to SAMY haha
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post Jul 5 2019, 07:18 AM

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please do a Jompay payment feature. haha.
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QUOTE(brokenbomb @ Jul 5 2019, 07:18 AM)
please do a Jompay payment feature. haha.
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Why JomPay when FPX is so much easier?
Both require you to sign into your banks IB.
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post Jul 5 2019, 07:30 AM

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QUOTE(CardNoob @ Jul 5 2019, 07:22 AM)
Why JomPay when FPX is so much easier?
Both require you to sign into your banks IB.
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for huge transfer yes. but i prefer a weekly RSP blush.gif lazy open and transfer

pagi2 bangun seeing msg "scheduled jompay on XXX" makes me rclxm9.gif

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post Jul 5 2019, 07:32 AM

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QUOTE(brokenbomb @ Jul 5 2019, 07:30 AM)
for huge transfer yes. but i prefer a weekly RSP  blush.gif lazy open and transfer

pagi2 bangun seeing msg "scheduled jompay on XXX" makes me  rclxm9.gif
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Then what you need is auto debit feature like SAMY? brows.gif
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QUOTE(CardNoob @ Jul 5 2019, 07:32 AM)
Then what you need is auto debit feature like SAMY? brows.gif
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yup. haha. 7.00am transfer, by 5.00pm "we have received your funds"

my FSM RSP auto debit takes about 5 days ka. adeh. haha. x syok la seeing your funds deducted but still floating. rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(brokenbomb @ Jul 5 2019, 07:35 AM)
yup. haha. 7.00am transfer, by 5.00pm "we have received your funds"

my FSM RSP auto debit takes about 5 days ka. adeh. haha. x syok la seeing your funds deducted but still floating.  rclxub.gif
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From my comparison, if you use JomPay on SAMY, the money isn't show up in your account instantly.
But if you use FPX on MT, it shows instantly.
Correct my if I'm wrong ...
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QUOTE(CardNoob @ Jul 5 2019, 07:38 AM)
From my comparison, if you use JomPay on SAMY, the money isn't show up in your account instantly.
But if you use FPX on MT, it shows instantly.
Correct my if I'm wrong ...
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ahh okok. will try it again soon. wait till they clear my address first. hehe
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I can't seem to receive SMS OTP when I try to register with Maxis number, anyone facing the same issue?
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QUOTE(AIYH @ Jul 5 2019, 10:37 AM)
I can't seem to receive SMS OTP when I try to register with Maxis number, anyone facing the same issue?
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not sure if they r having any issue.. but

1. their website on desktop is very very slow
2. i manage to get SMS OTP, but i did not receive email notification to verify my email.
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QUOTE(sohailili @ Jul 5 2019, 10:45 AM)
not sure if they r having any issue.. but

1. their website on desktop is very very slow
2. i manage to get SMS OTP, but i did not receive email notification to verify my email.
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I tried both web and app to register, but I am still unable to receive any SMS OTP even after resent for 3 times on both web and app registration
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QUOTE(sohailili @ Jul 5 2019, 10:45 AM)
not sure if they r having any issue.. but

1. their website on desktop is very very slow
2. i manage to get SMS OTP, but i did not receive email notification to verify my email.
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Regarding the email notification for email , thereseems to be a problem when i sign up yesterday. Email them but nothing much they can do.

However, i got the link this morning when i resend the validation code. so maybe wait a day?


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QUOTE(AIYH @ Jul 5 2019, 10:53 AM)
I tried both web and app to register, but I am still unable to receive any SMS OTP even after resent for 3 times on both web and app registration
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probably need to wait. mayb system issue


QUOTE(Klawo @ Jul 5 2019, 10:57 AM)
Regarding the email notification for email , thereseems to be a problem when i sign up yesterday. Email them but nothing much they can do.

However, i got the link this morning when i resend the validation code. so maybe wait a day?
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ya. forgot to giv details. i was trying to verify my email yesterday evening.. despite keep clicking send verification email. i get nth. early morning today tried again. it works. but i did not receive a single email from yesterday.

now my utility bill is rejected. CS chat no respond. LOL cool2.gif

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QUOTE(sohailili @ Jul 5 2019, 10:59 AM)
probably need to wait. mayb system issue
ya. forgot to giv details. i was trying to verify my email yesterday evening.. despite keep clicking send verification email. i get nth. early morning today tried again. it works. but i did not receive a single email from yesterday.

now my utility bill is rejected. CS chat no respond. LOL  cool2.gif
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I just used my bank account e-statement (first page) for that.
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expense ration more than SAMY...
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Just got my account opened and deposit acknowledged.. now waiting to see what did they invest into..
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QUOTE(yuiopoiuy @ Jul 5 2019, 12:41 PM)
Just got my account opened and deposit acknowledged.. now waiting to see what did they invest into..
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Why wanna wait? Its aldy listed in their faq
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QUOTE(preducer @ Jul 5 2019, 01:31 PM)
Why wanna wait? Its aldy listed in their faq
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They buy all or selected from the list for that particular portfolios?
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Jul 5 2019, 02:09 PM)
They buy all or selected from the list for that particular portfolios?
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They buy all, only the percentage is different. Thats what i noticed from my portfolio.
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QUOTE(CardNoob @ Jul 4 2019, 02:38 PM)
Excuse me, MT got hedge fund?

Which one is the hedge fund?
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Bro since yours is 100% growth, do u see buy order for other 2 categories?
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QUOTE(preducer @ Jul 5 2019, 02:23 PM)
They buy all, only the percentage is different. Thats what i noticed from my portfolio.
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Diff from SA then. SA got select. Some risk don't have XLK some have. If like that I think selection of etf SA better.
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QUOTE(preducer @ Jul 5 2019, 02:31 PM)
Bro since yours is 100% growth, do u see buy order for other 2 categories?
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No

Income:
INVESTCO SENIOR LOAN (BKLN)
VANECK VECTORS J.P. MORGAN EM LOCAL CURRENCY BOND (EMLC)
ISHARES FLOATING RATE BONDS (FLOT)
ISHARES IBOXX HIGH YIELD CORPS (HYG)
ISHARES 3-7 YEAR TREASURY BONDS (IEI)
ISHARES SHORT-TERM CORPORATE (IGSB)
ISHARES IBOXX INVESTMENT GRADE (LQD)
ISHARES MBS (MBB)
ISHARES US PREFERRED STOCK (PFF)
SPDR BARCLAYS SHORT-TERM HIGH YIELD (SJNK)
SPDR BLACKSTONE/GSO SENIOR LOAN (SRLN)

Hedge:
NVESCO DB AGRICULTURE F (DBA)
INVESCO DB BASE METALS F (DBB)
INVESCO DB OIL FUND (DBO)
ISHARES GOLD TRUST (IAU)
ISHARES GLOBAL INFRASTRUCTUR (IGF)
ISHARES US REAL ESTATE ETF (IYR)
ISHARES MORTGAGE REAL ESTATE (REM)
SPDR DJ INTERNATIONAL REAL E (RWX)
ISHARES TIPS BOND ETF (TIP)

Growth:
WISDOMTREE INDIA EARNINGS (EPI)
ISHARES MSCI CANADA (EWC)
ISHARES MSCI HONG KONG (EWH)
ISHARES MSCI JAPAN (EWJ)
ISHARES MSCI SINGAPORE (EWS)
ISHARES MSCI UNITED KINGDOM (EWU)
ISHARES MSCI FRONTIER 100 (FM)
ISHARES RUSSELL MID-CAP VALUE (IWS)
VANGUARD VALUE (VTV)
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QUOTE(CardNoob @ Jul 5 2019, 02:59 PM)
No

Income:
INVESTCO SENIOR LOAN (BKLN)
VANECK VECTORS J.P. MORGAN EM LOCAL CURRENCY BOND (EMLC)
ISHARES FLOATING RATE BONDS (FLOT)
ISHARES IBOXX HIGH YIELD CORPS (HYG)
ISHARES 3-7 YEAR TREASURY BONDS (IEI)
ISHARES SHORT-TERM CORPORATE (IGSB)
ISHARES IBOXX INVESTMENT GRADE (LQD)
ISHARES MBS (MBB)
ISHARES US PREFERRED STOCK (PFF)
SPDR BARCLAYS SHORT-TERM HIGH YIELD (SJNK)
SPDR BLACKSTONE/GSO SENIOR LOAN (SRLN)

Hedge:
NVESCO DB AGRICULTURE F (DBA)
INVESCO DB BASE METALS F (DBB)
INVESCO DB OIL FUND (DBO)
ISHARES GOLD TRUST (IAU)
ISHARES GLOBAL INFRASTRUCTUR (IGF)
ISHARES US REAL ESTATE ETF (IYR)
ISHARES MORTGAGE REAL ESTATE (REM)
SPDR DJ INTERNATIONAL REAL E (RWX)
ISHARES TIPS BOND ETF (TIP)

Growth:
WISDOMTREE INDIA EARNINGS (EPI)
ISHARES MSCI CANADA (EWC)
ISHARES MSCI HONG KONG (EWH)
ISHARES MSCI JAPAN (EWJ)
ISHARES MSCI SINGAPORE (EWS)
ISHARES MSCI UNITED KINGDOM (EWU)
ISHARES MSCI FRONTIER 100 (FM)
ISHARES RUSSELL MID-CAP VALUE (IWS)
VANGUARD VALUE (VTV)
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Can i say your money is invested 100% on growth on all etf in the listing?
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QUOTE(preducer @ Jul 5 2019, 03:01 PM)
Can i say your money is invested 100% on growth on all etf in the listing?
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Yes.

USD 483.09 in ETF
USD 1.40 in CASH
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Jul 5 2019, 02:53 PM)
Diff from SA then. SA got select. Some risk don't have XLK some have. If like that I think selection of etf SA better.
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I have SA account i know how it works
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QUOTE(CardNoob @ Jul 5 2019, 03:02 PM)
Yes.

USD 483.09 in ETF
USD 1.40 in CASH
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Atleast we are not putting money on the same etf on both platforms
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QUOTE(preducer @ Jul 5 2019, 03:02 PM)
I have SA account i know how it works
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Lol chill. Why so triggered.

I am just comparing both platform.
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QUOTE(preducer @ Jul 5 2019, 03:03 PM)
Atleast we are not putting money on the same etf on both platforms
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That's my primary of investing in MT! bruce.gif
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Finally someone open a thread. Just made a small deposit, like really small to test water.
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just want to confirm, MT only 1 profile unlike SA?

tried playing around but dont see option to create multiple profile.

for my profile, i just let the AI set automatically to test. or better to go 100% something? haha
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QUOTE(preducer @ Jul 5 2019, 02:23 PM)
They buy all, only the percentage is different. Thats what i noticed from my portfolio.
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Oh i didn't know that they will buy all from the list.. i thought like SA they just buying some of those.. anyhow still all cash in my account, wonder how fast their buying orders are, is it faster or slower than SA..
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QUOTE(yuiopoiuy @ Jul 5 2019, 05:32 PM)
Oh i didn't know that they will buy all from the list.. i thought like SA they just buying some of those.. anyhow still all cash in my account, wonder how fast their buying orders are, is it faster or slower than SA..
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Definitely faster
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QUOTE(preducer @ Jul 5 2019, 05:37 PM)
Definitely faster
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The UI needs improves further.
Another pie chart like SAMY whereby shows a breakdown in term of % that particular ETF constitutes to your portfolio.
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QUOTE(CardNoob @ Jul 5 2019, 05:40 PM)
The UI needs improves further.
Another pie chart like SAMY whereby shows a breakdown in term of % that particular ETF constitutes to your portfolio.
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Yeah btw the projection chart got cut off abit on the bottom part, same with yours?
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Yeah btw the projection chart got cut off abit on the bottom part, same with yours?
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That graph is not useful to me.
It's just a projection not a guaranteed return like insurance.
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What's the advantage of MT? More/different ETFs? For growth portfolios, SA is much more heavy to US equities. Is MT more balanced?
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QUOTE(j0nn @ Jul 5 2019, 06:30 PM)
What's the advantage of MT? More/different ETFs? For growth portfolios, SA is much more heavy to US equities. Is MT more balanced?
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This is their offerings for Growth:

Growth:
WISDOMTREE INDIA EARNINGS (EPI)
ISHARES MSCI CANADA (EWC)
ISHARES MSCI HONG KONG (EWH)
ISHARES MSCI JAPAN (EWJ)
ISHARES MSCI SINGAPORE (EWS)
ISHARES MSCI UNITED KINGDOM (EWU)
ISHARES MSCI FRONTIER 100 (FM)
ISHARES RUSSELL MID-CAP VALUE (IWS)
VANGUARD VALUE (VTV)
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QUOTE(CardNoob @ Jul 5 2019, 06:38 PM)
This is their offerings for Growth:

Growth:
WISDOMTREE INDIA EARNINGS (EPI)
ISHARES MSCI CANADA (EWC)
ISHARES MSCI HONG KONG (EWH)
ISHARES MSCI JAPAN (EWJ)
ISHARES MSCI SINGAPORE (EWS)
ISHARES MSCI UNITED KINGDOM (EWU)
ISHARES MSCI FRONTIER 100 (FM)
ISHARES RUSSELL MID-CAP VALUE (IWS)
VANGUARD VALUE (VTV)
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Saw that but what's the % allocation like within Growth? I have a 80% growth portfolio on SA, 45% ends up in US equities. 15% Asia ex-Japan.
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QUOTE(j0nn @ Jul 5 2019, 07:54 PM)
Saw that but what's the % allocation like within Growth? I have a 80% growth portfolio on SA, 45% ends up in US equities. 15% Asia ex-Japan.
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I don't have as the current UI only shows amount invested not % of the portfolio and I'm lazy to do manual calculation.
FYI, I'm on 100% Growth.
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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Jul 4 2019, 02:54 PM)
Finally the thread dis open!

I put small small amount only first.

However, MyTheo cant add new portfolio though. And MT, if you hear me, PLEASE add "Preferred Name" feature.
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What purpose ? Please share. Thanks.
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For those who are curious of the asset allocation for Growth profile:

WISDOMTREE INDIA EARNINGS (EPI) 4.24%
ISHARES MSCI CANADA (EWC) 7.15%
ISHARES MSCI HONG KONG (EWH) 7.05%
ISHARES MSCI JAPAN (EWJ) 19.20%
ISHARES MSCI SINGAPORE (EWS) 4.97%
ISHARES MSCI UNITED KINGDOM (EWU) 19.88%
ISHARES MSCI FRONTIER 100 (FM) 5.40%
ISHARES RUSSELL MID-CAP VALUE (IWS) 20.09%
VANGUARD VALUE (VTV) 14.54%

*estimation only based on NAV VTD

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ISHARES IBOXX INVESTMENT GRADE (LQD)

Hedge:
ISHARES TIPS BOND ETF (TIP)

Growth:
ISHARES MSCI JAPAN (EWJ)


excl.gif ONLY 3 funds same with SAMY. should be okay.
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Just checked one:
QUOTE(CardNoob @ Jul 5 2019, 09:38 PM)
| ISHARES MSCI JAPAN (EWJ) | 19.20% |
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Sounds not so good:

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This fund is not the best vehicle for investors seeking passive exposure to the Japanese large-cap equity market. An unreasonably high management fee and the availability of peers that track broader and more representative indexes such as the...


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QUOTE(bourse @ Jul 5 2019, 08:41 PM)
Income:
ISHARES IBOXX INVESTMENT GRADE (LQD)

Hedge:
ISHARES TIPS BOND ETF (TIP)

Growth:
ISHARES MSCI JAPAN (EWJ)
excl.gif  ONLY 3 funds same with SAMY.  should be okay.
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I don't have any of these in my 36% risk SAMY portfolio
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QUOTE(David_Yang @ Jul 5 2019, 08:41 PM)
Just checked one:
Sounds not so good:
If want to read full report need to pay  dry.gif
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EWJ is in my SAMY 6.5 portfolio. Yup, not the best at what it does, but it kind of serves its purpose. Currently +5.81%
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QUOTE(CardNoob @ Jul 5 2019, 08:44 PM)
I don't have any of these in my 36% risk SAMY portfolio
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These can be found in lowest risk 6.5% I think.
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QUOTE(CardNoob @ Jul 5 2019, 08:38 PM)
For those who are curious of the asset allocation for Growth profile:

WISDOMTREE INDIA EARNINGS (EPI) 4.24%
ISHARES MSCI CANADA (EWC) 7.15%
ISHARES MSCI HONG KONG (EWH) 7.05%
ISHARES MSCI JAPAN (EWJ) 19.20%
ISHARES MSCI SINGAPORE (EWS) 4.97%
ISHARES MSCI UNITED KINGDOM (EWU) 19.88%
ISHARES MSCI FRONTIER 100 (FM) 5.40%
ISHARES RUSSELL MID-CAP VALUE (IWS) 20.09%
VANGUARD VALUE (VTV) 14.54%

*estimation only based on NAV VTD
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So in Stashaway, Japan & EU are used in low risk portfolio, but here they go heavy on them for high risk port?

Maybe will try it out once I have some initial capital. But 1% + using more expensive ETFs... this robo is almost as expensive as typical mutual funds.
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QUOTE(honsiong @ Jul 5 2019, 11:07 PM)
These can be found in lowest risk 6.5% I think.
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TIP & EWJ, yeah
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Hello all,
wow Ive been readng from the first post until here,trying to understand what is being said/posted - all quitte technical
i'm a noob with not so much capital,but Id liketo grow my capital so that in the near future I cann invest in stocks on Bursa. I think until Im more well versed in investing, I'd like to put my money ina robo-advisor.
Is myTHEO recommended or StashAway (its d SA mentoned in the thread rite)?
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QUOTE(~Curious~ @ Jul 6 2019, 12:41 AM)
Hello all,
wow Ive been readng from the first post until here,trying to understand what is being said/posted - all quitte technical
i'm a  noob with not so much capital,but Id liketo grow my capital so that in the near future I cann invest in stocks on Bursa. I think until Im more well versed in investing, I'd like to put my money ina robo-advisor.
Is myTHEO recommended or StashAway (its d SA mentoned in the thread rite)?
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Absolutely. These are very hands off approach to investment, you pay the pros let them do it.

For now, I gonna be sticking with StashAway bcoz:

- Its very clear for you how much value at risk you undertake
- Both platform and ETFs used carry lower expense ratio
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Growth portfolio going heavy on Japan is weird for me.. but still gonna do dca for 6 months then only judge by end of year.

Don’t really like Japan because even now in FSM its the only negative port for me this year sad.gif
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QUOTE(honsiong @ Jul 5 2019, 11:23 PM)
So in Stashaway, Japan & EU are used in low risk portfolio, but here they go heavy on them for high risk port?

Maybe will try it out once I have some initial capital. But 1% + using more expensive ETFs... this robo is almost as expensive as typical mutual funds.
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Yea. Their selection of etf seems weird to me.
EWJ at most also 5% in SA. And it's only available in low risk profile.
Japan market isn't that healthy as compared to emerging and other developed country.

But MT other etf seems promising. MT is more diversified then SA. Selection etf in SA is highly specific to each risk index.
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SA for 36% risk is rather US heavy.
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QUOTE(CardNoob @ Jul 6 2019, 08:59 AM)
SA for 36% risk is rather US heavy.
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It isn't
Most of the top holdings in SA are MNC expect the small cap and reit holdings for the high risk holders
If the world and US are doing well then ultimately those companies do well

Would you rather that then take country and currency exchange risk like South Korea where Samsung just announced a plunge in profits.

This is the EWU vs EWJ vs SPY with dividend reinvested
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For anyone interested here is a simple back test of the assets
Port 1 is MyTheo, Port 2 is Stashaway and Port 3 is All country world index ETF
Allocations will be slightly off but should give everyone the general idea
Dividends are reinvested and port is rebalanced quarterly

Asset Allocation
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Performance
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Annual Returns
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It isn't
Most of the top holdings in SA are MNC expect the small cap and reit holdings for the high risk holders
If the world and US are doing well then ultimately those companies do well

Would you rather that then take country and currency exchange risk like South Korea where Samsung just announced a plunge in profits.

This is the EWU vs EWJ vs SPY with dividend reinvested
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For anyone interested here is a simple back test of the assets
Port 1 is MyTheo, Port 2 is Stashaway and Port 3 is All country world index ETF
Allocations will be slightly off but should give everyone the general idea
Dividends are reinvested and port is rebalanced quarterly

Asset Allocation
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Performance
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Annual Returns
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Hmmm. Based on the graph, SA>MT
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Hmmm. Based on the graph, SA>MT
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Yes

A lot of MyTheo ETF has currency exposure which is one of the main reason for underperformance

Also a couple of them have a high dividend yield

I am not sure if they are trying to just differentiate themselves or have another reason for their picks. Only their CIO would be able to answer that question.

They have essentially taken a value and weak dollar view overall based on their picks

Also they have a significantly higher allocation towards financial firms and industrials which are notoriously cyclical sectors

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QUOTE(David_Yang @ Jul 5 2019, 08:41 PM)
Just checked one:
Sounds not so good:
If want to read full report need to pay  dry.gif
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Role in Portfolio

This fund is not the best vehicle for investors seeking passive exposure to the Japanese large-cap equity market. An unreasonably high management fee and the availability of peers that track broader and more representative indexes such as the MSCI Japan IMI and Topix means we cannot award this fund a positive rating.

The market-cap-weighted MSCI Japan Index tracks the performance of around 320 large- and mid-cap Japanese companies, which represent around 85% of the total market value. With an ongoing charge of 0.59%, the fund is one of the most expensive exchange-traded funds tracking Japanese equities and much pricier than other ETFs tracking the very same index (for example, the HSBC MSCI Japan ETF with an ongoing charge of 0.19%).

There are also numerous funds that track broader and more representative indexes such as MSCI Japan IMI and FTSE Japan for a lower fee. The excessively high management fee has seen the fund shrink in a market in which rivals have gathered assets.

Fund performance has been uninspiring, having matched or slightly edged out surviving category peers on a risk-adjusted basis over three, five, and 10 years.

The annual tracking difference (fund return less index return) has hovered around the ongoing charge over the past three years. This suggests that the fund has tracked its benchmark tightly (gross of fees). Net of fees, however, the fund has unsurprisingly been one of the worst-performing MSCI Japan trackers.

Investors in all foreign markets should be aware of the potential impact that currency movements can have on returns. For example, a UK investor in the Japanese equity markets is exposed to both the returns on the underlying market and the fluctuations in the pound/yen exchange rate. Although the fund offers broad and representative market exposure, several broader and more representative passive offerings exist.

The fund also charges an indefensibly high fee, which has helped make it one of the worst performing MSCI trackers over recent years. For these reasons, we have awarded this fund a Morningstar Analyst Rating of Neutral.

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Unable to make full withdrawal, anyone have same issue as myself?

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Unable to make full withdrawal, anyone have same issue as myself?
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There is a min bal u need to maintain, usd 25
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QUOTE(preducer @ Jul 7 2019, 06:19 PM)
There is a min bal u need to maintain, usd 25
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Didn’t notice about that,
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Didn’t notice about that,
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Go read the entire faq again

There is no maximum limit for the deposit. Similarly, there is no limit for withdrawal, but the investors must retain a minimum amount of USD25 to keep the account active. At any one time, only a single withdrawal is allowed. The next withdrawal can only be done after the first is cleared.
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There is a min bal u need to maintain, usd 25
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Oh damn, if put rm1000, thats almost 10% locked up
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QUOTE(Krv23490 @ Jul 7 2019, 06:32 PM)
Oh damn, if put rm1000, thats almost 10% locked up
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Min deposit is rm100 unlike SA
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Go read the entire faq again

There is no maximum limit for the deposit. Similarly, there is no limit for withdrawal, but the investors must retain a minimum amount of USD25 to keep the account active. At any one time, only a single withdrawal is allowed. The next withdrawal can only be done after the first is cleared.
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Oh , its okay i guess as long as you can withdraw your balance until RM 0
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QUOTE(Krv23490 @ Jul 7 2019, 06:57 PM)
Oh , its okay i guess as long as you can withdraw your balance until RM 0
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It doesn't say anywhere how to withdraw 100% bc under withdrawal page, they aldy earmark usd 25. Maybe if u pick to close the account u will get that option
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QUOTE(zacknistelrooy @ Jul 7 2019, 07:03 PM)
This is the best that I could get
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Thanks! I think no more you need to know.
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Wow, didn't notice this USD 25 holding fee to keep the account active.
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Finally a thread on this. was searching it last week.
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Wow, didn't notice this USD 25 holding fee to keep the account active.
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basiclly what they are saying is if u gonna open account and not invest, dont waste our time haha
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I quit the platform and will re-invest again probably few months down the road,

mainly because of cash-flow and preferable to invest in SA at the moment
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Does anyone know is it 25% of the managment fee or 25% off the management fee promotion?

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The ETF holding list is really long lol.. probably because MT recommended me to go 83:11:6 and i decided just to follow it lol.
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Does anyone know is it 25% of the managment fee or 25% off the management fee promotion?
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They will refund back 25% of the 1% mgmt fee that you are going to pay every month
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QUOTE(ahwai @ Jul 8 2019, 05:25 PM)
Does anyone know is it 25% of the managment fee or 25% off the management fee promotion?
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25% of the 1% = 0.75% management fees by reimburse to ur account later
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25% of the 1% = 0.75% management fees by reimburse to ur account later
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Wow. You vvip?
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25% of the 1% = 0.75% management fees by reimburse to ur account later
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Isn't 25% of 1 % = 0.25% ?
or my maths fail..
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My completely uncle uneducated guess is that because Mytheo is in part founded by many Japanese, the underlying "algorithm" may be also Japan market biased.

Of course, $$ speaks so we need to see how well it will do in the long run, especially seeing as their own back test says it works...
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This thread still alive..
Serious?
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Isn't 25% of 1 % = 0.25% ?
or my maths fail..
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25% rebate on management fee, meaning u will be charged on 0.75% instead of 1%, but the 25% will reimburse later monthly for a year.
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Jul 9 2019, 05:57 PM)
My completely uncle uneducated guess is that because Mytheo is in part founded by many Japanese, the underlying "algorithm" may be also Japan market biased.

Of course, $$ speaks so we need to see how well it will do in the long run, especially seeing as their own back test says it works...
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Do you happen to have the backtest they did?
If so, could you please post it here

I looked at their Japanese operation and some of their ETF are different
https://theo.blue/portfolio
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QUOTE(zacknistelrooy @ Jul 9 2019, 06:47 PM)
Do you happen to have the backtest they did?
If so, could you please post it here

I looked at their Japanese operation and some of their ETF are different
https://theo.blue/portfolio
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Jul 9 2019, 07:22 PM)

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Darn, now that I look at it, 2016 to 2019 like nett gain zero....??
Somehow I would say not investing in SP500 is missing out hugely.
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So with the withholding of USD 100, this product is no longer attractive?
Hence, this thread is dying slowly?
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many unit trusts require minimum balance too...we don't call them scams.

The true scam is when they collect 5.5% entry fee and 1% per annum and deliver worst than their benchmarks for more than 3 years in a row.
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If you don’t want the withholding thing I assume that closing your account will fully return your account value back to you?
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Does anyone hold both for the StashAway and myTHEO at this moment?
Which 1 generated better return so far?

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Does anyone hold both for the StashAway and myTHEO at this moment?
Which 1 generated better return so far?
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Too early to tell I would say. MT baru started.
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stashway will be better
u can checkout the underlaying etf performance to compare
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QUOTE(preducer @ Jul 25 2019, 06:10 PM)
What is the distinct approach?

TLDR! yawn.gif
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the minimum balance thing is quite a turn off tho
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1% annual fee.....gluuppp....

market up or down, broker eat.

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not really event la haha, just a webinar
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QUOTE(lee82gx @ Jul 11 2019, 04:19 PM)
many unit trusts require minimum balance too...we don't call them scams.

The true scam is when they collect 5.5% entry fee and 1% per annum and deliver worst than their benchmarks for more than 3 years in a row.
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The minimum balance is required because some investment/securities purchased have high entry coast. For Example: Off the counter (not fundsupermart) 1 Lot of Bond cost RM 250K. Also, there are cost incurred by the manager for maintaining and running the fund.

If the entry fee (or sales charge in the unit trust world) is your concern, just use fundsupermart.

QUOTE(l4nc3k @ Jul 11 2019, 06:16 PM)
If you don’t want the withholding thing I assume that closing your account will fully return your account value back to you?
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The witholding is on the dividend/income not on the principal. Yout theory works, assuming your investment appreciate in value due to fluctuations in the price and no dividend/income is declared.

Do my dividends get taxed?
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However, you need to retain a minium of USD 25 in the account.


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the minimum balance thing is quite a turn off tho
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The minium amount is alright. The problem I have with it is probably because its traded in USD. IF the USD and your investment decides to take a divide, it's going to be double whammy.

Oh and the 6months celebratory period, not sure when its ending. Can throw RM 100 and see how it grow over time LOL.

Is there a minimum amount I need to invest?
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QUOTE(aurora97 @ Aug 2 2019, 10:18 PM)
The minimum balance is required because some investment/securities purchased have high entry coast. For Example: Off the counter (not fundsupermart) 1 Lot of Bond cost RM 250K. Also, there are cost incurred by the manager for maintaining and running the fund.

If the entry fee (or sales charge in the unit trust world) is your concern, just use fundsupermart.
The witholding is on the dividend/income not on the principal. Yout theory works, assuming your investment appreciate in value due to fluctuations in the price and no dividend/income is declared.

Do my dividends get taxed?
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However, you need to retain a minium of USD 25 in the account.
The minium amount is alright. The problem I have with it is probably because its traded in USD. IF the USD and your investment decides to take a divide, it's going to be double whammy.

Oh and the 6months celebratory period, not sure when its ending. Can throw RM 100 and see how it grow over time LOL.

Is there a minimum amount I need to invest?
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lol if stashaway can do it, mytheo should be able to do that too.

not saying it's not a good platform, i'm not surprised if mytheo becomes the leading roboadvisor in malaysia.

but just this little things that turn investor off when there such a better alternative like stashaway
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lol if stashaway can do it, mytheo should be able to do that too.

not saying it's not a good platform, i'm not surprised if mytheo becomes the leading roboadvisor in malaysia.

but just this little things that turn investor off when there such a better alternative like stashaway
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I am not promoting either stashaway or mytheo.

To me both Robo-advisors are still in its infant stage. They have proven nothing and they don't have a historical track record.

We don't really know whether stashaway has done anything. They have not revealed their AUM or the growth or how profitable they are. People might argue that they are new and all but those are the numbers that will tell where the company is at.
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I saw this under Notice:

5 Aug 2019 04:51 pm
Cash rebate of USD0.08 was credited to your account.
5 Aug 2019 02:12 pm
Your portfolio has been adjusted.
2 Aug 2019 04:39 pm
Management fee USD0.31 was charged to your account.
2 Jul 2019 11:23 am
Your portfolio has been adjusted.
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[quote=CardNoob,Jul 11 2019, 11:41 AM]
So with the withholding of USD 100, this product is no longer attractive?

RM100 for minimum initial investment during offer period. Otherwise it would be RM500. I think this is sensible.

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[quote=Bali2019,Aug 29 2019, 11:06 AM]
[quote=CardNoob,Jul 11 2019, 11:41 AM]
So with the withholding of USD 100, this product is no longer attractive?

RM100 for minimum initial investment during offer period. Otherwise it would be RM500. I think this is sensible.
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The problem is not about initial investment.
It's the withholding amount if you quit the portfolio.
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Good.. Just only invest in SA. Now reading about this MT. If okay, will try and see
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Please try and post a comparison between SA and THEO performance
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already submitted closing account application
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Why so?
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That's was fast
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QUOTE(CardNoob @ Aug 30 2019, 01:25 PM)
Why so?
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their etf choices are not great, imho. more towards country specific eg. uk, japan, hk
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What is the risk u took at SA and THEO?
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Planning to do so
cuz August is my first month using it.
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How fast is the deposit process compare to SA?

SA normally take 3 days.
1. Like your bank transfer on Monday,

2. SA acknowledge receiving transfer on Tue, and then

3. the buy process status only changed to completed on Wednesday ( though I think the actual buy is done on Tue night our time).

Tq

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QUOTE(ollec @ Sep 3 2019, 07:18 PM)
How fast is the deposit process compare to SA?

SA normally take 3 days.
1.  Like your bank transfer on Monday,

2. SA acknowledge receiving transfer on Tue, and then

3. the buy process status only changed to completed  on Wednesday ( though I think the actual buy is done on Tue night our time).

Tq
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QUOTE(TanYiJing @ Sep 4 2019, 07:32 PM)
MyTheo was faster than expected. It takes around 2 days to convert my payment to USD. Yesterday i was charge 0.10 USD for the manaement fees :'(
SA only charge me 0.04USD
But for now , SA is better since the management fees is lower and for now the profit SA is bringing in is higher compare to MyTheo. But i cant conclude which 1 is better yet since its just my 1st month. But for the 1st month, the winner goes tooooooo (drum roll sound ) SA cuz of the higher profit and lower management fees
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I feel like StashAway has improved their deposit procedure. Now it only took me 2 days to complete the whole deposit process.

Take ollec case as an example,
I deposited it on Monday, the acknowledgement is on Tuesday around 11am to 12pm then by 4pm the conversion is done and buy order is placed on the same night.

Might need others to confirm it too biggrin.gif

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I heard JomPay is faster
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If deposit before 8 am on the same day maybe can get on the same day?
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I dont think SA can process so fast la. SA also say need 2 to 3 days for the whole process.
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Tried ibg on the same day before haha
JomPay not sure though
Never tried

Edit: sorry off topic. Will end here for post bout sa

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QUOTE(TanYiJing @ Sep 5 2019, 10:28 AM)
I heard JomPay is faster
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Kena do benchmark, IBG currently takes 2 working days.

Last time JomPay and curlec took much longer than IBG, of coz I hope they adopt instant transfer also.
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Is it better to put in MT or just deposit in epf. Looking at their projection and comparing with epf, I feel its not worth the risk. But I'm newbie to this thing, so not sure about this investment thing. And I got account in SA. I think need to wait and see MT performance first.
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Just opened an account yesterday and also deposited.when they will convert to USD and buy ETF.i haven’t seen any activity yet
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made deposits to both SAMY n myTHEO this morning around 9AM. myTHEO already show update 'Transfer from MYR xxxx.xx to USD has been settled.' at 12.40PM.

SAMY still no update on deposits.
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QUOTE(sohailili @ Oct 22 2019, 03:11 PM)
made deposits to both SAMY n myTHEO this morning around 9AM. myTHEO already show update 'Transfer from MYR xxxx.xx to USD has been settled.' at 12.40PM.

SAMY still no update on deposits.
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SAMY to convert to USD takes 1-2 working days
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QUOTE(Songlap @ Oct 22 2019, 04:39 PM)
SAMY to convert to USD takes 1-2 working days
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ya.. pretty slow. hope they improve on this part.
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QUOTE(TanYiJing @ Oct 23 2019, 11:07 PM)
Just a simple update

myTheo performance for me is currently at around 3.2% after 2 months while SAMY is around 2.5%.

SAMY risk index is at 20% and myTheo is at high risk level.
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I just started as well.
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Aiyer this need to comply with BNM Notics 3 of the Foreign Exchange Administration Rules boh? Ppl with more than 1x mortage loan kenot invest nia..

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Aiyer this need to comply with BNM Notics 3 of the Foreign Exchange Administration Rules boh? Ppl with more than 1x mortage loan kenot invest nia..
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what do you mean?
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what do you mean?
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get yourself familiarize with BNM's Foreign Exchange Administration rules if you wanna invest abroad.
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MyTheo investments still lacking behind SA and Wahed hmm.gif
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What do u mean by lacking behind? But Wahed not operating yet according to this:

https://www.asiaasset.com/post/22806-robomalaysia-gte-1023

Two more coming.

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What do u mean by lacking behind? But Wahed not operating yet according to this:

https://www.asiaasset.com/post/22806-robomalaysia-gte-1023

Two more coming.
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The returns From mytheo is lower than Wahed and SA.

Wahed already in Malaysia. Also stated clearly in your link.

There are currently three robo advisers, or digital investment management companies, operating in Malaysia: Singapore’s StashAway, New York-based Wahed Inc, and MyTheo, a Malaysian-Japanese joint venture.
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fee structure how? better, equal or worse than SA?
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Is it worth to sign up if already got stashaway?
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Is it worth to sign up if already got stashaway?
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i am doing both, same amount of risk approx. StashAway returns much more currently. Will update here after few months.
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Still new to this. But I don't see any options to adjust risk or delete portfolios in the app? Or you are not suppose to?

*Edit new updates to the app just added said function.

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Still new to this. But I don't see any options to adjust risk or delete portfolios in the app? Or you are not suppose to?
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for MyTHEO it's based on your age, etc i think
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Is it worth to sign up if already got stashaway?
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i'm doing 3: stashaway, mytheo and wahed
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Does theo do any sort of profile verification? Can I not answer everything honestly during signing up? Cause I did so with stashaway and as a result they won't allow me to take the high risk.
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Does theo do any sort of profile verification? Can I not answer everything honestly during signing up? Cause I did so with stashaway and as a result they won't allow me to take the high risk.
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well if you want to tune it to the highest risk then you have to lie lor. but myTHEO let's you adjust your portfolio manually after that also.
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Hi I'm new here. Is it advisable for newbie like me
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Hi I'm new here. Is it advisable for newbie like me
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Deposit rm500 in Oct.
Today, my account is rm503.29


FD is better
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If you are a serious passive investor, I have a paid academic survey for you.

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QUOTE(Choongster @ Jan 10 2020, 10:27 PM)
Deposit rm500 in Oct.
Today, my account is rm503.29
FD is better
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Mine - RM21 today 😂

I will give it 3 more months
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I closed mytheo account long time ago but for a different reason - i simply dont like their selection of funds.

For those of you who just entered not long ago (after Sept 2019), its normal to be having low returns or even negative because that time is kinda like a peak for 2019. Give it more time to develop and remember to DCA, not just lump sum and hope for the best.
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Finally MyTheo decided to dump their Hong Kong ETF. the performance has been horrible for months.
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mytheo make a good choice as due to wuhan virus
they will buy again when the drop is stop
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Any idea the disposal of the HK ETF goes into which ETF?
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mytheo make a good choice as due to wuhan virus
they will buy again when the drop is stop
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And the Hong Kong riots as well

QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Feb 13 2020, 07:03 AM)
Any idea the disposal of the HK ETF goes into which ETF?
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No idea. Their statement not very transparent.
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Since they also mentioned that SG ETF is the other worst performer, will they remove that out too in coming month(s)? hmm.gif
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Since they also mentioned that SG ETF is the other worst performer, will they remove that out too in coming month(s)? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Choongster @ Jan 10 2020, 10:27 PM)
Deposit rm500 in Oct.
Today, my account is rm503.29
FD is better
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any updates on your returns today?
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MYR is so weak until my currency impact swing from negative region to positive.
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MYR is so weak until my currency impact swing from negative region to positive.
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yeah. but the USD profit is so little. think i'm gonna withdraw soon while USD still high.
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yeah. but the USD profit is so little. think i'm gonna withdraw soon while USD still high.
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Where you want to into upon withdrawing?
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Where you want to into upon withdrawing?
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Good move but i recommed to put into wahed as it shariah compliance
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Good move but i recommed to put into wahed as it shariah compliance
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i'm not muslim so not bothered with the shariah thingy
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i'm not muslim so not bothered with the shariah thingy
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You can sell today.
USD touches 4.177X
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You can sell today.
USD touches 4.177X
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But the exchange rate they are using is USD 1 = RM 4.148 mad.gif mad.gif

I have RM 9313 they only allow me to withdraw RM 9183. Lost of RM130.36.

Ok la MyTheo really cannot d lol.

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any updates on your returns today?
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already cashed out . I lost money due to fee & forex. Investment did not bring home enough money to offset.
Anyway they are start up mode , they are very concern people closing acocunt.

I got a call from them asking why i closed. I said i am an idiot in investing . I jumped onto these platform was hoping the app help me invest but it does not bring home the money.

They said it was a wrong time to close the account because our ringgit strengthen against the US . Instead i should cash-in now . But then i told them , FD is guaranteed return although is low .
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already cashed out . I lost money due to fee & forex. Investment did not bring home enough money to offset.
Anyway they are start up mode , they are very concern people closing acocunt.

I got a call from them asking why i closed. I said i am an idiot in investing . I jumped onto these platform was hoping the app help me invest  but it does not bring home the money.

They said it was a wrong time to close the account because our ringgit strengthen against the US. Instead i should cash-in now . But then i told them , FD is guaranteed return although is low .
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Seriously? dry.gif

Are you performing full withdrawal?

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QUOTE(Choongster @ Feb 20 2020, 01:05 PM)
already cashed out . I lost money due to fee & forex. Investment did not bring home enough money to offset.
Anyway they are start up mode , they are very concern people closing acocunt.

I got a call from them asking why i closed. I said i am an idiot in investing . I jumped onto these platform was hoping the app help me invest  but it does not bring home the money.

They said it was a wrong time to close the account because our ringgit strengthen against the US . Instead i should cash-in now . But then i told them , FD is guaranteed return although is low .
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If it's few weeks ago yeah, then again it's not significantly
If they said due to the virus, still kinda acceptable

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My portfolio ROI is 3.x% only. sweat.gif

Compared to SAMY. dry.gif

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Seriously?  dry.gif

Are you performing full withdrawal?
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Yea, I request for close account. However the process is not immediate and while waiting for the account to close , it is still trading .
When i cash out , i remember i was above my initial investment of RM500 ... maybe RM505.00 something like that.
then at one point while waiting for it to close , it went below RM500.

QUOTE(xcxa23 @ Feb 20 2020, 01:15 PM)
If it's few weeks ago yeah, then again it's not significantly
If they said due to the virus, still kinda acceptable
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Unsure what you mean but i had RM500 in there for 4 months.

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already cashed out . I lost money due to fee & forex. Investment did not bring home enough money to offset.
Anyway they are start up mode , they are very concern people closing acocunt.

I got a call from them asking why i closed. I said i am an idiot in investing . I jumped onto these platform was hoping the app help me invest  but it does not bring home the money.

They said it was a wrong time to close the account because our ringgit strengthen against the US . Instead i should cash-in now . But then i told them , FD is guaranteed return although is low .
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Thanks for sharing bro.

Maybe it is Not a good investment tool.


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QUOTE(BacktoBasics @ Feb 20 2020, 01:36 PM)
Thanks for sharing bro.

Maybe it is Not a good investment tool.
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I wouldn't say good or not good. I am sure there is more technical knowledge going into these type of platform.
However for someone that have zero knowledge on investing , it boils down to simple maths.

If i put RM500 , i should get more than RM500 at the end of each period
take FD for example ; RM500 at avg of 3% per annum ; and the end of of the 4 months ; should have RM505-ish
This is guaranteed income.

for MyTHEO , during my 4 months .. i see as high as RM520 . but if you cash out the wrong time and after minus all the fee and forex. I probably worse off at the end of 4 months which was what happened to me.
With MyTHEO , many other consideration before you can cash out with a profit.

oh another key point for MyTHEO according to the guy on the phone call was ..... low starting value. RM100 you can invest already while FD is much higher.

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QUOTE(Choongster @ Feb 20 2020, 01:58 PM)
I wouldn't say good or not good. I am sure there is more technical knowledge going into these type of platform.
However for someone that have zero knowledge on investing , it boils down to simple maths.

If i put RM500 , i should get more than RM500 at the end of each period
take FD for example ; RM500 at avg of 3% per annum ; and the end of of the 4 months ; should have RM505-ish
This is guaranteed income.

for MyTHEO , during my 4 months .. i see as high as RM520 . but if you cash out the wrong time and after minus all the fee and forex. I probably worse off at the end of 4 months which was what happened to me.
With MyTHEO , many other consideration before you can cash out with a profit.

oh another key point for MyTHEO according to the guy on the phone call was ..... low starting value. RM100 you can invest already while FD is much higher.
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For starter, you shouldn't compare it to FD.

FD is a saving while this myTHEO is an investment like buying mutual fund/unit trust.

When involving investment, nothing is guaranteed; being its capital nor the return.
One needs understand the underlying risk involved.

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QUOTE(Choongster @ Feb 20 2020, 01:58 PM)
I wouldn't say good or not good. I am sure there is more technical knowledge going into these type of platform.
However for someone that have zero knowledge on investing , it boils down to simple maths.

If i put RM500 , i should get more than RM500 at the end of each period
take FD for example ; RM500 at avg of 3% per annum ; and the end of of the 4 months ; should have RM505-ish
This is guaranteed income.

for MyTHEO , during my 4 months .. i see as high as RM520 . but if you cash out the wrong time and after minus all the fee and forex. I probably worse off at the end of 4 months which was what happened to me.
With MyTHEO , many other consideration before you can cash out with a profit.

oh another key point for MyTHEO according to the guy on the phone call was ..... low starting value. RM100 you can invest already while FD is much higher.
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agreed. not worth the extra risk for the lower return
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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Feb 20 2020, 02:01 PM)
For starter, you shouldn't compare it to FD.

FD is a saving while this myTHEO is an investment like buying mutual fund/unit trust.

When involving investment, nothing is guaranteed; being its capital nor the return.
One needs understand the underlying risk involved.
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I got your point.
This is where people like me are dummy in investing , I took FD as "investing" our saving for guaranteed return.
The MyTHEO proposition to us newbie sounds very promising. The app has the intelligence from Japan that will manage your investment and risk ...well

when you make money ; they will also make money
when you lose money ; they still make money


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QUOTE(Choongster @ Feb 20 2020, 01:21 PM)
Yea, I request for close account. However the process is not immediate and while waiting for the account to close , it is still trading .
When i cash out , i remember i was above my initial investment of RM500 ... maybe RM505.00 something like that.
then at one point while waiting for it to close , it went below RM500.
Unsure what you mean but i had RM500 in there for 4 months.
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I meant that person blaming currency exchange for the losses it's not completely correct.

Did you DCA? Topping up in between the 4 month?

When you invest, there's risk of profit and losses
And of cos, depending on which investment tool, the % of gain and losses are different.

With etf, there's potential of gain averaging of 8 to 10% (based on s&p500)
And it's practically impossible to see that gain in mere months especially with current global market conditions

Although with SA, deposited on July 2019 and as of now approximately 9% ROI.

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From my observation, MyTheo is trying to diversify too much and all those eggs did not hatch when the world's economy went on a roller coaster ride.

Compared to SA which has lesser ETFs and for Wahed having only four funds but the returns are much much more higher.
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negative returns even at a time when markets are setting new records

FD yields much more
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I meant that person blaming currency exchange for the losses it's not completely correct.

Did you DCA? Topping up in between the 4 month?

When you invest, there's risk of profit and losses
And of cos, depending on which investment tool, the % of gain and losses are different.

With etf, there's potential of gain averaging of 8 to 10% (based on s&p500)
And it's practically impossible to see that gain in mere months especially with current global market conditions

Although with SA, deposited on July 2019 and as of now approximately 9% ROI.
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unsure about the lingo used. What is DCA?
but i did not top-up .
just one time RM500 just to test water.

i totally agree to the risk and also you may say 4 months is too short.
however from my noob perspective , I compared day by day , week by week and I see an even up and down.
if it maintain like that for next 12 months , in the end i may end up with the same RM500.



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QUOTE(Choongster @ Feb 20 2020, 05:15 PM)
unsure about the lingo used. What is DCA?
but i did not top-up .
just one time RM500 just to test water.

i totally agree to the risk and also you may say 4 months is too short.
however from my noob perspective , I compared day by day , week by week and I see an even up and down.
if it maintain like that for next 12 months , in the end i may end up with the same RM500.
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DCA = dollar-cost averaging

In layman term, periodically you put X amount of money weekly/monthly or any predefined in-between duration
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QUOTE(Choongster @ Feb 20 2020, 05:15 PM)
unsure about the lingo used. What is DCA?
but i did not top-up .
just one time RM500 just to test water.

i totally agree to the risk and also you may say 4 months is too short.
however from my noob perspective , I compared day by day , week by week and I see an even up and down.
if it maintain like that for next 12 months , in the end i may end up with the same RM500.
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DCA = dollar cost averaging
with so many comment saying negative return despite market reaching all time high, i guess mytheo arent as good as stashaway and wahed

i do recommend stashaway aka SA or wahed. both also robo ai
head over https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4750563/ for SA
since personally i am experiencing good return with SA hence i am recommending


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Do u all realize that mytheo this month has 3% return, if compare monthly basis, it better than wahed
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Do u all realize that mytheo this month has 3% return, if compare monthly basis, it better than wahed
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When you started to invest?
My ROI to-date is 3.X% as of yesterday.
My portfolio is opened for months.
How you get the monthly basis ROI figure?

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Do u all realize that mytheo this month has 3% return, if compare monthly basis, it better than wahed
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that is due to the weakening of the ringgit. not the performance of the fund.
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Got my funds after 4 business days. Not bad.
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Full withdrawal?
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They didn't allow full withdrawal. only about 95%? Managed to apply for another withdrawal. thanks to USD surge manage to profit about RM100 in total sweat.gif
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They didn't allow full withdrawal. only about 95%?  Managed to apply for another withdrawal. thanks to USD surge manage to profit about RM100 in total sweat.gif
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Are you earning from portfolio gain?
Or just forex gain?
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Are you earning from portfolio gain?
Or just forex gain?
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just forex gain. that's why i pull out. portfolios are horrible.
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just forex gain. that's why i pull out. portfolios are horrible.
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I understood your feeling too:

Fund Gains: -148.11
Currency Impact: 87.22
Total Gains: -60.89
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Wow ... all the holdings are in RED now:

ISHARES MSCI AUSTRALIA (EWA) -3.70
ISHARES MSCI CANADA (EWC) -2.67
ISHARES MSCI JAPAN (EWJ) -14.20
ISHARES MSCI SINGAPORE (EWS) -5.12
ISHARES MSCI UNITED KINGDOM (EWU) -14.05
ISHARES MSCI FRONTIER 100 (FM) -2.45
ISHARES RUSSELL 2000 VALUE (IWN) -4.23
ISHARES RUSSELL MID-CAP VALUE (IWS) -12.30
VANGUARD VALUE (VTV) -13.71

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Wow ... all the holdings are in RED now:

ISHARES MSCI AUSTRALIA (EWA) -3.70
ISHARES MSCI CANADA (EWC) -2.67
ISHARES MSCI JAPAN (EWJ) -14.20
ISHARES MSCI SINGAPORE (EWS) -5.12
ISHARES MSCI UNITED KINGDOM (EWU) -14.05
ISHARES MSCI FRONTIER 100 (FM) -2.45
ISHARES RUSSELL 2000 VALUE (IWN) -4.23
ISHARES RUSSELL MID-CAP VALUE (IWS) -12.30
VANGUARD VALUE (VTV) -13.71
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The recent COVID-19 pandemic has taken the world by storm. Global markets have slumped due to fears that the pandemic may wipe out economic growth and move to recession.

It is important to remember that the market had strong growth over the past few years and it was due time for a correction. It is also critical to understand that while losses within investments are real and tangible, one should also remember that investments should be a long-term bet.

Withdrawing your investments at a critical time would essentially realize the losses made in markets in real time. Keep your investments where they are, allow us to search for value at an opportune time now when stocks and bonds are down. Investing more into the market may seem counter-intuitive, but it is the best you can do to ride out the volatility as you will be buying the market when it is cheap.

Above all, it would be best to remain calm and not to panic-sell. MYTHEO is well equipped to deal with such changes in the market and to help you manage your money well. While we are certainly experiencing a difficult time with the market cycle, history shows us that markets do recover in due course.

Wish to read MYTHEO’s February performance?
https://www.mytheo.my/mytheo/blog/58-perfor...w-february-2020
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A Message from the CEO on the COVID-19 Pandemic

I hope this note finds you and your dear ones well, safe and healthy.

It is indeed a challenging time for us all. The impact of the coronavirus pandemic coupled with the crude oil crisis is being felt across the world. With the Movement Control Order (MCO) imposed and now extended by the Malaysian government, all our activities may come to a halt.

I take this opportunity in assuring you that we, at MYTHEO have a sound business continuity plan in place to continue serving you. Our fintech business model – a digital investment management service leverages on highly digitalised and automated workflows that seamlessly connects our front, middle and back office processes.

It is important to note that this is not the first nor would it be the last market dip we may face in our lifetime but a rather good opportunity to get your investment strategy in check. MYTHEO’s investment strategy adopts disciplined methodologies, with robust asset diversification (comprising of equities, bonds, treasury bills, gold/commodities, REITS), supported by portfolio rebalancing and optimization driven by smart innovation and complemented by a team of professional portfolio managers who are competent to do what is best for our clients.

It will not be wise for us to make hasty updates or to predict the market performance for our clients because the impact of the coronavirus on the economy and on the capabilities of companies have added so much uncertainties and volatilities to the market. Trading halts due to triggered circuit breakers seem to be the norm at this juncture. The number of new coronavirus cases globally is just as volatile. Governments across the globe are announcing stimulus packages that will continue to be finetuned and adapted as the situation unfolds.

That being said, to all MYTHEO investors, I have a humble request.

Fear and anxiety can overwhelm our rationale thinking. In response, as difficult as it may be, try not to listen to, read or watch too much news from the media and social groups – it can be rather depressing. Instead, make the best out of the precious time given to us during MCO to do things you’ve put off, such as learning something new, practicing healthy living, adopting clean eating and reconnecting with family and friends. Let us accept the fact that we have little control over this pandemic, but we can all be responsible and do our part to get through this together! Let us all be resolute, determined, disciplined and ride through this wave of uncertainties together.

In light of such challenging times, we would like to do our part in heartening your worries! We will be waiving 3 months of management fees for you, effective 1st April 2020. I would like to thank you for investing with MYTHEO. We continuously strive to encourage, enable and empower everyone to invest for a better tomorrow. Stay home, practice social distancing and take care of your health while MYTHEO takes care of your wealth!

Invest in a Moment with,
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Financial markets around the world and MYTHEO portfolios were generally weaker in the month of March due to the rapid rise of COVID-19 infections globally, especially in North America and Europe.

To cushion a looming economic crisis, policymakers across all countries launched fiscal measures known as economic "bazookas". Economic experts including those from the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and the World Bank had already anticipated that a recession is all but certain. The global economy is expected to shrink starting from the first quarter of 2020 before getting worse in the second quarter of 2020. A recession may sound very scary but to experienced investors, the current cloudy outlook presents a rare opportunity to jump on further investments at a bargain price.

Our advice to all MYTHEO investors is to practice Dollar Cost Averaging because it is impossible to predict and time the ups and downs of the market. With our Regular Savings Plan, we will invest a regular amount for you every month. Sign up for this plan today, if you haven’t already!

March performance review: https://www.mytheo.my/mytheo/blog/60-perfor...view-march-2020

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MyTheo changed its ETF allocation in April 2020:

They added:

ISHARES MSCI BRAZIL (EWZ)
ISHARES CHINA LARGE-CAP (FXI)
ISHARES RUSSELL 2000 VALUE (IWN)
INVESCO QQQ ETF (QQQ)
INVESCO S&P 500 PURE VALUE (RPV)

They removed:

ISHARES MSCI CANADA (EWC)

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Recovery, slowly but surely...

Economic red flags were scattered across April 2020. The Bloomberg Recession indicator, which is the most widely followed indicator by investment professionals, showed that the probability of recession in the US within the next 12-months is 100% certain. The International Monetary Fund (IMF) forecasted that the current global economic downturn is much deeper than that of the financial crisis in 2008.

On a good note, all these negative news of bad economic data and dovish forecasts did little to stop the stock market from rallying. The S&P 500 went up by more than 30% since 23 March 2020.

Professionals are constantly trying to predict the market, and they usually fail. That is why passive investing has been growing in popularity over the past decade. This approach of investing in a basket of stocks/asset classes by buying ETFs is effective in avoiding the risks of both bad stock pickings and trying to outperform the market especially with such volatilities in the market.

Our advice to all MYTHEO investors is to practice Dollar Cost Averaging and not to let market volatility and negative news keep you from investing. Invest consistently by signing up for our Regular Savings Plan where we will invest a regular amount for you every month!

Wish to read MYTHEO’s April performance?
https://www.mytheo.my/mytheo/blog-app/61-pe...view-april-2020
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QUOTE(majorarmstrong @ Jun 1 2020, 02:24 PM)
i guess mytheo is the worst of the 3 (SA, Wahed and MyTheo)?
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Can say so but new Wahed unsure.
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For me, its better than SA
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myTHEO returns has been good lately these 2 weeks. Stashaway is also recovering.
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myTHEO returns has been good lately these 2 weeks. Stashaway is also recovering.
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When you started?
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When you started?
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Stashaway last year, myTHEO around early April this year. Everything was in the red in the first few weeks of May. Now at least positive.
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Stashaway last year, myTHEO around early April this year. Everything was in the red in the first few weeks of May. Now at least positive.
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Good for you.
My MT is still under the water.
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MyTheo for Android got update.
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QUOTE(majorarmstrong @ Jun 1 2020, 02:24 PM)
i guess mytheo is the worst of the 3 (SA, Wahed and MyTheo)?
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Withdrew everything before the February dip with about RM200 profit lol
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QUOTE(zstan @ Jun 1 2020, 07:55 PM)
Withdrew everything before the February dip with about RM200 profit lol
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how much u put in to get RM200 profit?
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how much u put in to get RM200 profit?
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QUOTE(zstan @ Jun 2 2020, 02:25 PM)
about 9-10k i think.
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Profit 200 not bad ma for a short period
Maybe longer period will be even more?
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Profit 200 not bad ma for a short period
Maybe longer period will be even more?
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it will be horrible if i didn't pull out before the February drop.
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In February, they removed EWH.

In June, they add back EWH. dry.gif


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I joined in March 2020 and deposit a few hundred every month just to play-play, and surprisingly it's now at about 4% returns after taking into account the currency impact. Not bad for sitting on my ass and doing nothing? Can consider to put more.

Btw to those who've pulled out earlier and closed account, they will pro-rate the per-annum 1% management fees or not? Or charge the full 1% regardless how long you've joined?
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QUOTE(Lysentrix @ Jun 8 2020, 10:39 PM)
I joined in March 2020 and deposit a few hundred every month just to play-play, and surprisingly it's now at about 4% returns after taking into account the currency impact. Not bad for sitting on my ass and doing nothing? Can consider to put more.

Btw to those who've pulled out earlier and closed account, they will pro-rate the per-annum 1% management fees or not? Or charge the full 1% regardless how long you've joined?
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Management fee is charged on monthly basis.

Under Portfolio>Activity>Notice, you should see an entry: Management fee USDX.XX was charged to your account.
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QUOTE(zstan @ Jun 2 2020, 02:25 PM)
about 9-10k i think.
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Hit & run? But how could we know when will be the right time to divest?
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Hit & run? But how could we know when will be the right time to divest?
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didn't have confidence in mytheo for weeks prior to that. performance was really bad compared to SA and Wahed with the same amount invested.
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My FSM is also suffering
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What fund u have in fsm?
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What fund u have in fsm?
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A few, some of them are good (not super good) but Kenanga Growth Fund is giving me -9%
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QUOTE(majorarmstrong @ Jun 1 2020, 02:24 PM)
i guess mytheo is the worst of the 3 (SA, Wahed and MyTheo)?
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But I have gained TWR 4+% since my 1st deposit back in 26th May rclxms.gif
While my SA deposited on the same day was -1.11% till today doh.gif
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MYTHEO's functional portfolios’ performance in May is a perfect example. Shares in Brazil (EWZ) and Japan (EWJ) were the two assets that rose the fastest inside the Growth portfolio. While, in the Income portfolio, the emerging market bond traded in local currency (EMLC) was a head and shoulder above the next best. Similarly, Crude Oil (DBO) and Global Infrastructure (IGF) beat Gold (IAU) and US Inflation Hedge bond (TIP) as the top performing assets in the Inflation Hedge portfolio.

This is what differentiates MYTHEO from other investment products available in the market. MYTHEO is an all-weather investment product that focuses on investment diversification across more than 80 countries and a wide range of asset classes from equity, bond, real estate and commodity. Therefore, MYTHEO optimizes risks well to achieve long-term results without being highly dependent on the performance of any single market or asset class. This investment strategy has worked well especially during a period of market uncertainties and volatilities.

The best part is that investors can own these investments bundled together with an initial capital of as low as RM100. It is prudent for an investor not to time the market for entry or exit point. For those who exited at the bottom on 23 March, they would have missed the recovery on the following days. For those fortunate ones who went in at the lowest peak on that same day, they will be sitting on a large investment gain. But then again, who has that crystal ball to predict the market movements? Hence, practising dollar-cost averaging with a regular saving plan is a good investment strategy.

https://www.mytheo.my/mytheo/blog-app/62-pe...review-may-2020
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Please see what is wrong here?

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Sad to know a company that handle money for investment could not differientiate navigating volatility and investment diversification
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QUOTE(backspace66 @ Jul 4 2020, 10:44 AM)
Sad to know a company that handle money for investment could not differientiate navigating volatility and investment diversification
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What are you trying to imply here?
Any solid proof?
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What are you trying to imply here?
Any solid proof?
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The letter you posted, investing a small amount every month is consider as diversification instead of treated as DCA.

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In June, the weaker USD masked down the returns of MYTHEO functional portfolios in MYR. However, in USD, all three functional portfolios expanded, ranging from 0.65% to 3.01%.

The bulls and bears of the market were more balanced in recent weeks. In the US, the spike in new COVID-19 cases flagged more doubt on the country's economic recovery. Whilst the situation in China and the Eurozone was much better, as the virus infection was well under control and the economy seemed to have passed the worst. For the 2nd consecutive month, investments outside of the US were aiding the performance of MYTHEO’s portfolios.

By investing with MYTHEO, you are automatically invested in over 25 ETFs with more than 10,000 underlying stocks across 80 countries using the proprietary algorithms to minimize portfolio risks. Above that, the exposure across different asset classes and regions creates more opportunities to optimize the investment returns regardless of market cycles.

Wish to read MYTHEO’s June performance?
https://www.mytheo.my/mytheo/blog/65-perfor...eview-june-2020
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hows your guys portfolio doing so far? mine still at -10% ytd despite the recovery in global equities last 2months

my last deposit made was in dec2019 though
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QUOTE(chichabom @ Jul 14 2020, 12:14 PM)
hows your guys portfolio doing so far? mine still at -10% ytd despite the recovery in global equities last 2months

my last deposit made was in dec2019 though
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-6.84% since Day 1 of launch with occasional top up
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QUOTE(chichabom @ Jul 14 2020, 12:14 PM)
hows your guys portfolio doing so far? mine still at -10% ytd despite the recovery in global equities last 2months

my last deposit made was in dec2019 though
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What is ur risk level allocation?
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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Jul 14 2020, 12:59 PM)
-6.84% since Day 1 of launch with occasional top up
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i also realised when the market rise, the increase in mytheo tends to be smaller whereas when the market goes down, the drop in mytheo seems to be larger

with more than 28etfs in my portfolio i dont hv the time to scrutinize one by one lol and since we r paying a 1% annual fee i just hope mytheo is doing the right thing


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What is ur risk level allocation?
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my recommended allocation by mytheo is 68% growth, 18% income, 14% inflation

also tested a small sum with 100% growth allocation - currently at -15%
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QUOTE(chichabom @ Jul 14 2020, 02:47 PM)
i also realised when the market rise, the increase in mytheo tends to be smaller whereas when the market goes down, the drop in mytheo seems to be larger

with more than 28etfs in my portfolio i dont hv the time to scrutinize one by one lol and since we r paying a 1% annual fee i just hope mytheo is doing the right thing
my recommended allocation by mytheo is 68% growth, 18% income, 14% inflation

also tested a small sum with 100% growth allocation - currently at -15%
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one of the reason i pulled out. too many funds too diluted.
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one of the reason i pulled out. too many funds too diluted.
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thought of exiting before too but decided to stay invested since im in for the longer term
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QUOTE(zstan @ Jul 14 2020, 02:49 PM)
one of the reason i pulled out. too many funds too diluted.
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I like it because the main reason invest in etf is diversification
more etf = diversification
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QUOTE(chichabom @ Jul 14 2020, 08:00 PM)
thought of exiting before too but decided to stay invested since im in for the longer term
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I'm still invested in Wahed and SAMY

QUOTE(MNet @ Jul 14 2020, 08:55 PM)
I like it because the main reason invest in etf is diversification
more etf = diversification
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Too much funds = dilution. SAMY is just nice.
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As promised, we’re back with Part 2 of the Myths of Robo-Advisory! We’re aiming to tackle some of your everyday questions about investing and our service, without the typical investment jargons.

MYTH #4 - Robo-Advisors are for those who can't afford traditional advisors

MYTH #5 - My money isn’t safe, as MYTHEO is not a bank nor affiliated with a bank

MYTH #6 - I don’t need a Robo-Advisor, I am already investing

https://www.mytheo.my/mytheo/blog/66-myths-...advisory-part-2
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Hi all.

Realised that the thread on MT is not as active as SA or Wahed.

Any particular reasons why you guys prefer SA/Wahed over MT?

Considering whether to start MT or not. Any sharing is appreciated.
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QUOTE(4eyeco @ Jul 23 2020, 04:56 PM)
Hi all.

Realised that the thread on MT is not as active as SA or Wahed.

Any particular reasons why you guys prefer SA/Wahed over MT?

Considering whether to start MT or not. Any sharing is appreciated.
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I invested from Day 1 and still in red zone.
So probably that is the answer.
I did some occasional top up.
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QUOTE(4eyeco @ Jul 23 2020, 04:56 PM)
Hi all.

Realised that the thread on MT is not as active as SA or Wahed.

Any particular reasons why you guys prefer SA/Wahed over MT?

Considering whether to start MT or not. Any sharing is appreciated.
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I have just started investing in mytheo, most of the etf selected are laggard and most of those market still way behind in term of recovery. I took out from wahid as i keep my exposure to US market through SA.

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QUOTE(4eyeco @ Jul 23 2020, 04:56 PM)
Hi all.

Realised that the thread on MT is not as active as SA or Wahed.

Any particular reasons why you guys prefer SA/Wahed over MT?

Considering whether to start MT or not. Any sharing is appreciated.
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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Jul 23 2020, 04:57 PM)
I invested from Day 1 and still in red zone.
So probably that is the answer.
I did some occasional top up.
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I started SAMY n myTHEO with about 3 months apart. I do almost constant DCA for both. Equal amount. Both on highest risk portfolio. SAMY return more than 10% wher as myTHEO return was at borderline 1%. I withdrew partially from myTHEO. Waiting and see when I will withdraw fully.

Above is my experience with both. If vehicle A can bring me further, I don see a point why i wan to ride on vehicle B. Furthermore, its not a free ride. im paying to reach my destination (Investment goal).



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QUOTE(sohailili @ Jul 23 2020, 05:52 PM)
I started SAMY n myTHEO with about 3 months apart. I do almost constant DCA for both. Equal amount. Both on highest risk portfolio. SAMY return more than 10% wher as myTHEO return was at borderline 1%. I withdrew partially from myTHEO. Waiting and see when I will withdraw fully.

Above is my experience with both. If vehicle A can bring me further, I don see a point why i wan to ride on vehicle B. Furthermore, its not a free ride. im paying to reach my destination (Investment goal).
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Correct. I'm waiting to breakeven and cash out.
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thanks for the sharing!

I put a small amount in before reading this thread.

I noticed there is a minimum amount of USD25 to maintain in the account.

Is closing my account the only way to withdraw everything? or will they forfeit the USD25 as well?

Anyone tried closing account? Were you able to withdraw everything?
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QUOTE(4eyeco @ Jul 23 2020, 06:47 PM)
thanks for the sharing!

I put a small amount in before reading this thread.

I noticed there is a minimum amount of USD25 to maintain in the account.

Is closing my account the only way to withdraw everything? or will they forfeit the USD25 as well?

Anyone tried closing account? Were you able to withdraw everything?
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If u still wan to stay invested, then yes the min of 25usd applies.

U can close account and get everything out. But take note. Wat u see may not be wat u get after u decided to close ur account. Closing account will take a few days. From selling all ur assets, convert to MYR.

When I withdraw, it was 1% but when it finally reach to the point of receiving, it was lesser. It depends on market performance and forex.
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QUOTE(sohailili @ Jul 23 2020, 07:39 PM)
If u still wan to stay invested, then yes the min of 25usd applies.

U can close account and get everything out. But take note. Wat u see may not be wat u get after u decided to close ur account. Closing account will take a few days. From selling all ur assets, convert to MYR.

When I withdraw, it was 1% but when it finally reach to the point of receiving, it was lesser. It depends on market performance and forex.
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Can you still access (login) to your account now?
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Can you still access (login) to your account now?
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Yes. I still can. My account closing is not finalized. Another 80c stuck due to future dividend earnings. LMAO

But i have received my full sum except tat 80c.

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Yes. I still can. My account closing is not finalized. Another 80c stuck due to future dividend earnings. LMAO
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Are you being charged for the monthly management fee for the 80c?
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Are you being charged for the monthly management fee for the 80c?
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My last charge was 2nd Jul. I close account on 13th Jul. So far to date I did not see any charges yet. Not sure next month 2nd tho.
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Seriously am thinking of exiting mytheo too. My funds in fsm and samy is slowly showing increasing returns but mytheo still in the red and trailing like tortoise lol
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Seriously am thinking of exiting mytheo too. My funds in fsm and samy is slowly showing increasing returns but mytheo still in the red and trailing like tortoise lol
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I'm in the same shoe and dilemma as you.
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I'm in the same shoe and dilemma as you.
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we could be the last batch in the boat. Probably many have already exited long time ago lol
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i started SAMY, MT and Wahed at the same time, same risk portfolio, same amount of $$$. test water for 1 month, got returns 7% from both SAMY and MT but Wahed was -10%.
now, i stopped Wahed, but continues to DCA weekly into both SAMY and MT, getting similar returns.
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Seriously am thinking of exiting mytheo too. My funds in fsm and samy is slowly showing increasing returns but mytheo still in the red and trailing like tortoise lol
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I invested since last year Oct.
Return is negative although I seen some market recovery, don't know why.

I just closing my portfolio and cashout completely. Moving it to elsewhere. Tested this platform well enough.
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QUOTE(Dexter @ Jul 24 2020, 08:50 PM)
I invested since last year Oct.
Return is negative although I seen some market recovery, don't know why.

I just closing my portfolio and cashout completely. Moving it to elsewhere. Tested this platform well enough.
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Mind sharing later how long does it take to receive the funds in your acc?

Sometimes i also feel a lack of transparency in this platform whenever there is rebalancing/reoptimisation, all i get is just a notification of "your portfolio has been adjusted" with no further details, i.e. what has been sold or what has been bought

They say investing should be a long term play hence the reason i am still holding it today but like some has advised here before that i am also losing out the opportunity to earn better returns elsewhere
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Mind sharing later how long does it take to receive the funds in your acc?

Sometimes i also feel a lack of transparency in this platform whenever there is rebalancing/reoptimisation, all i get is just a notification of "your portfolio has been adjusted" with no further details, i.e. what has been sold or what has been bought

They say investing should be a long term play hence the reason i am still holding it today but like some has advised here before that i am also losing out the opportunity to earn better returns elsewhere
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u can compare before and after the portfolio optimization
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QUOTE(MNet @ Jul 25 2020, 09:42 PM)
u can compare before and after the portfolio optimization
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i dont check that often but assuming once reoptimisation is completed, the "old portfolio" is not accessible anymore?
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i dont check that often but assuming once reoptimisation is completed, the "old portfolio" is not accessible anymore?
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Yes old portfolio will be gone but u can view it from history log
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Yes old portfolio will be gone but u can view it from history log
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may i know where is this history log located? Couldnt find it in the app.
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QUOTE(MGM @ Jul 27 2020, 05:15 PM)
Lol +15.96% return for its balanced portfolio? while mine is still at -10% even after all the recovery in recent months
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QUOTE(chichabom @ Jul 25 2020, 08:32 AM)
Mind sharing later how long does it take to receive the funds in your acc?

Sometimes i also feel a lack of transparency in this platform whenever there is rebalancing/reoptimisation, all i get is just a notification of "your portfolio has been adjusted" with no further details, i.e. what has been sold or what has been bought

They say investing should be a long term play hence the reason i am still holding it today but like some has advised here before that i am also losing out the opportunity to earn better returns elsewhere
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Request to close portfolio, 20-Jul (Mon), money credited on 24-Jul (Fri).

True, I lost my opportunity to invest somewhere else when other's perform lots better. I also holding it because of long term investment. To me 10-12 months is long enough to let me decide to pull off completely.
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Was about to open an account in MT after having SA and Wahed. Read the thread here and got a negative general impression of MT. And thread is not as active as the others

Anyone has seen + returns recently?
And anyone has a referral code just in case i want to test MT out
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QUOTE(omegaoracle @ Aug 4 2020, 02:31 PM)
Was about to open an account in MT after having SA and Wahed. Read the thread here and got a negative general impression of MT. And thread is not as active as the others

Anyone has seen + returns recently?
And anyone has a referral code just in case i want to test MT out
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PM'ed.

I invested in small amounts for SA, Wahed and MT.

Of all 3, MT gave me the lowest return.

I m using the recommended growth (54%) income (26%) inflation hedge (20%) portfolio
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Forgotten to mention, I started all 3 on the same day (last month) and have been DCA-ing the same amount weekly.
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QUOTE(4eyeco @ Aug 4 2020, 02:55 PM)
PM'ed.

I invested in small amounts for SA, Wahed and MT.

Of all 3, MT gave me the lowest return.

I m using the recommended growth (54%) income (26%) inflation hedge (20%) portfolio
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Noted thanks. Maybe will try small DCA account for 12 months for a look see
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Dear Valued Investor,

We have received some queries regarding the function, safety and security of MYTHEO's Direct Debit system from our investors. The Direct Debit feature is an efficient way to help you to practice dollar cost averaging through regular savings. We would like to assure you, that MYTHEO’s Direct Debit system is functioning well as it has gone through rigorous validation and testing.

In view of the critical role that technology plays in our business, it has always been our priority to continuously review and ensure our operations, systems and infrastructures are secured, resilient and reliable. The digital investment management industry in Malaysia is highly regulated and MYTHEO, as part of this industry, takes the welfare and the trust of our customers very seriously.

Once again, we would like to reassure all our investors, that your deposits with MYTHEO are safe and we look forward to continue managing your investment for the long-term.

Should you wish to speak to us further on this, feel free to reach out to our Customer Experience Team via a call at +603-8408 1613 or drop us a line at contact@mytheo.my

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Anyone knows how this "Currency Impact" works?

I put in a few hundreds to test MT and almost all my earnings have been wiped out by currency impact.
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QUOTE(4eyeco @ Aug 7 2020, 01:30 PM)
Anyone knows how this "Currency Impact" works?

I put in a few hundreds to test MT and almost all my earnings have been wiped out by currency impact.
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USD-MYR loss/gain

Since USD is weakened, it'll eat up on the profit.

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Aug 7 2020, 01:31 PM)
USD-MYR loss/gain

Since USD is weakened, it'll eat up on the profit.
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hmm.gif hmm.gif hmm.gif

Assuming the portfolio made a gain of USD 30, and the current rate from USD:MYR is 1:4.

I should get RM120 out from it right? But somehow this "currency impact" deducts almost everything...

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QUOTE(4eyeco @ Aug 7 2020, 01:49 PM)
hmm.gif  hmm.gif  hmm.gif

Assuming the portfolio made a gain of USD 30, and the current rate from USD:MYR is 4:1.

I should get RM120 out from it right? But somehow this "currency impact" deducts almost everything...
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Portfolio Return in MYR = Portfolio Return in USD+Change in USD:MYR rate

https://www.mytheo.my/mytheo/blog/28-foreig...-term-investing
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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Aug 7 2020, 01:49 PM)
Portfolio Return in MYR = Portfolio Return in USD+Change in USD:MYR rate

https://www.mytheo.my/mytheo/blog/28-foreig...-term-investing
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Ok, understand now.

Thanks for pointing out! biggrin.gif
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ok, i fully exit liao. final amount received. total investment return at 0.03% where as the competitor is capturing double digit %. gonna slowly DCA and shift over.

all the best to you guys who are still holding.
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ok, i fully exit liao. final amount received. total investment return at 0.03% where as the competitor is capturing double digit %. gonna slowly DCA and shift over.

all the best to you guys who are still holding.
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I wish that I can follow your steps now.
Still in red sea! sweat.gif
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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Aug 10 2020, 08:20 PM)
I wish that I can follow your steps now.
Still in red sea! sweat.gif
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i have 2 portfolio (both growth), the last n final 1 i actually did small topup every week because it was still swimming in red.. once i felt tat it is borderline breakeven, i quickly close the portfolio.
who knows.. USD keep dropping.. else i will be getting more than tat 0.03%... but then still no loss is better than loss..
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All three MYTHEO functional portfolios ended the month of July positively despite the US economy shrinking by 32.9% in the second quarter, which was the worst ever economic contraction in US history.

Our Thoughts
All three MYTHEO functional portfolios gained steadily despite the economy being at its worst. The Nasdaq Composite Index, which is heavily weighted to the US technology sector, rose to a new all-time high in July. Moreover, major commodities have also traded higher on the expectations that global demand is not too far away from recovering.

Investors should treat the current market scenario as a lesson to learn how the financial market works. In short, the financial market is not the economy! Markets are forward-looking, whereas the economy is backward-looking. Hence, it is no surprise to see the market and the economy moving in different directions.

More importantly, the financial market tends to move much earlier before the actual economic recovery can be seen and felt. Therefore, a weak economic situation should not be an excuse for one to not invest. Such excuses would only cause more losses than benefits.

That is why we strongly advise investors to invest consistently rather than trying to time the market. Always remember that the best time to invest was yesterday and next best time is always now.

https://www.mytheo.my/mytheo/blog-app/67-pe...eview-july-2020
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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Aug 14 2020, 09:34 AM)
Performance Review: July 2020

All three MYTHEO functional portfolios ended the month of July positively despite the US economy shrinking by 32.9% in the second quarter, which was the worst ever economic contraction in US history.

Our Thoughts
All three MYTHEO functional portfolios gained steadily despite the economy being at its worst. The Nasdaq Composite Index, which is heavily weighted to the US technology sector, rose to a new all-time high in July. Moreover, major commodities have also traded higher on the expectations that global demand is not too far away from recovering.

Investors should treat the current market scenario as a lesson to learn how the financial market works. In short, the financial market is not the economy! Markets are forward-looking, whereas the economy is backward-looking. Hence, it is no surprise to see the market and the economy moving in different directions.

More importantly, the financial market tends to move much earlier before the actual economic recovery can be seen and felt. Therefore, a weak economic situation should not be an excuse for one to not invest. Such excuses would only cause more losses than benefits.

That is why we strongly advise investors to invest consistently rather than trying to time the market. Always remember that the best time to invest was yesterday and next best time is always now.

https://www.mytheo.my/mytheo/blog-app/67-pe...eview-july-2020
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Based on June report, the YTD for growth is at -13.08%. Strangely, they did not report the YTD for Jul. Not sure is intentional or...
https://www.mytheo.my/mytheo/blog/65-perfor...eview-june-2020

I hope many of u DCA enough to bring back growth portfolio to positive.
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Hello.

How long does it take for you guys who closed portfolio to get back the money?

I submitted the request last Tuesday (11/8/2020), today (17/8/2020) i see my portfolio is 0. However when I check my bank account, I dont see the amount I withdrawed.

In the app, I don't see any pending withdrawal as well..


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QUOTE(4eyeco @ Aug 17 2020, 12:07 PM)
Hello.

How long does it take for you guys who closed portfolio to get back the money?

I submitted the request last Tuesday (11/8/2020), today (17/8/2020) i see my portfolio is 0. However when I check my bank account, I dont see the amount I withdrawed.

In the app, I don't see any pending withdrawal as well..
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Have you receive email titled "Closing Withdrawal Settlement" on ur portfolio closure? if you did, then by right will you see the money in ur verified bank account soon. within the day or following.
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Have you receive email titled "Closing Withdrawal Settlement" on ur portfolio closure? if you did, then by right will you see the money in ur verified bank account soon. within the day or following.
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Yes, I have received that email. Hence, I am wondering why I couldn't see the amount in my verified bank account.

Just contacted MyTheo, and they told me it should be reflected by 5pm today.

Thanks!
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QUOTE(4eyeco @ Aug 17 2020, 02:06 PM)
Yes, I have received that email. Hence, I am wondering why I couldn't see the amount in my verified bank account.

Just contacted MyTheo, and they told me it should be reflected by 5pm today.

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Omakase Income Portfolio - any peers here to comment or reivew compared the other robos?

Based on info from myTHEO *Based on our back-tested performance, our 100% Income portfolio returned 5.9% pa from July 2007 to June 2020
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At last, my portfolio has break even in USD.

Simple ROI is +0.35%
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Mytheo don't have detail statement ?
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Seems like they changed the ETFs again:

I noticed new entry:

ISHARES MSCI TAIWAN (EWT)
ISHARES RUSSELL MID-CAP GROWTH (IWP)
VANGUARD FTSE PACIFIC (VPL)

They thrown away:

ISHARES MSCI BRAZIL (EWZ)
ISHARES RUSSELL 2000 VALUE (IWN)
INVESCO S&P 500 PURE VALUE (RPV)
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lousy return.. finally positive. current ROI 0.3% LOL
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How was the performance?
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closed my account after staying invested for close to 18 months
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QUOTE(Pewufod @ Sep 7 2020, 11:04 AM)
barely broke even but incurred opportunity cost
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mind sharing the "when" to "when" of that 18 months period?
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mind sharing the "when" to "when" of that 18 months period?
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just closed my account last week, been DCA-ing monthly
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Have you gotten your money in your bank account?
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The global equities raced higher for a fifth straight month since the lowest point in March. The US market, which has been the most robust market in the recent months, continued to anchor the equity market with the S&P and Nasdaq reaching new all-time highs once again.

Unlike the equity market, the bond market had a bad month. In August, the bond yield spiked to the highest level since February amid concerns of rising inflation in the future, following the new policy by the Federal Reserve.

In the commodity market, Gold’s rally for six consecutive months came to an end in August, but all other commodities trended higher due to the growing optimism that the economic recovery is on the right track.

https://www.mytheo.my/mytheo/blog/69-perfor...iew-august-2020
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anyone invest in myTHEO goes for 100% inflation portfolio? how is the back tested performance?

see this as unique choice for inflation oriented product in the market, other than syfe sg reit portfolio...

can show the weights of each ETFs composition?
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QUOTE(Pewufod @ Sep 7 2020, 11:09 AM)
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Equity Market Drops After A 5-Month Rally

The equity market dropped for the first time after five straight months of positive returns. Politics and rising COVID-19 infections were the major causes for the weaker performance across all asset classes.

With the US presidential election getting closer, President Donald Trump threw more threats at China. In retaliation, the Wall Street Journal (WSJ) reported that China is looking to blacklist US companies. Elsewhere, the United Kingdom’s (UK) sudden plans to exit the European Union (EU) gained investors' attention as they were worried about the possibility of a hard Brexit after Boris Johnson threatened to stop the negotiation if the EU does not meet with his demands. The exit without any agreement with the EU would be a disaster for the UK, considering how dependent the country is on other economies.

The COVID-19 pandemic remained as the biggest threat to the global economy and financial market. In September, European countries such as Spain, France and the UK have all seen significant upticks in virus infections. The situation was exacerbated by a report that AstraZeneca and Oxford University have put vaccination trials on hold due to negative findings from the human trials.

There will be a lot of ups and downs in the market where some months can have negative returns. That's why MYTHEO’s algorithms are designed to ignore short-term changes in the asset prices but instead to continue monitoring and taking a long-term view on our investment. Our algorithms’ key focus is to optimize the portfolio by maximizing returns while taking the least risk possible. For these purposes, our algorithms run on two layers of automated processes - REBALANCING and RE-ALLOCATION.

Wish to read MYTHEO’s September performance? Click here.
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Equity Market Drops After A 5-Month Rally

The equity market dropped for the first time after five straight months of positive returns. Politics and rising COVID-19 infections were the major causes for the weaker performance across all asset classes.

With the US presidential election getting closer, President Donald Trump threw more threats at China. In retaliation, the Wall Street Journal (WSJ) reported that China is looking to blacklist US companies. Elsewhere, the United Kingdom’s (UK) sudden plans to exit the European Union (EU) gained investors' attention as they were worried about the possibility of a hard Brexit after Boris Johnson threatened to stop the negotiation if the EU does not meet with his demands. The exit without any agreement with the EU would be a disaster for the UK, considering how dependent the country is on other economies.

The COVID-19 pandemic remained as the biggest threat to the global economy and financial market. In September, European countries such as Spain, France and the UK have all seen significant upticks in virus infections. The situation was exacerbated by a report that AstraZeneca and Oxford University have put vaccination trials on hold due to negative findings from the human trials.

There will be a lot of ups and downs in the market where some months can have negative returns. That's why MYTHEO’s algorithms are designed to ignore short-term changes in the asset prices but instead to continue monitoring and taking a long-term view on our investment. Our algorithms’ key focus is to optimize the portfolio by maximizing returns while taking the least risk possible. For these purposes, our algorithms run on two layers of automated processes - REBALANCING and RE-ALLOCATION.

Wish to read MYTHEO’s September performance? Click here.
https://mytheo.us20.list-manage.com/track/c...d8&e=a316a0d2ab
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you really work for MyTheo smile.gif
anyway will SAMY take the same approach ...mmmh hmm.gif hmm.gif hmm.gif
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Does the US Presidential Election Affect Your Investment?

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We advise investors to be more mindful in the next few weeks. It is expected that in the weeks ahead of the US Presidential election, the stock market will be more volatile than usual due to the constant change in the headlines. An election is a one-off event and the market tends to quickly normalise after the election regardless of who wins it. Therefore, investors who try to time the market might get caught at the wrong end of the market momentum - selling low and buying high.

More importantly, the issue of whether the new President is a Democrat or Republican matters the least to the financial market. While it is true that both parties have considerable differences in vital issues, the US economy is hugely complex and government policies are just one part of it.

All monetary policies are taken care of by the Federal Reserve, which are independent from the president’s office.

Our advice is to stay put and always invest consistently. Avoid betting on one side of the election result and stop acting based on news in the headlines. Stick to your strategy and long-term investment objective. Trump or Biden? Republican or Democrat? Whichever side that wins, they will do their best for the the US economy and the stability of the financial markets.

https://www.mytheo.my/mytheo/blog-app/71-do...your-investment
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4 months invested in 2 portfolios in MyTheo, one thing really stands out - It's really difficult to lose money OR make money because its so diversified.
Even if your investment is RM100, you're invested in a long list of ETFs. Recently, I changed my portfolios to 100% growth and 100% income, hope it performs better

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QUOTE(omegaoracle @ Oct 26 2020, 08:09 PM)
4 months invested in 2 portfolios in MyTheo, one thing really stands out - It's really difficult to lose money OR make money because its so diversified.
Even if your investment is RM100, you're invested in a long list of ETFs. Recently, I changed my portfolios to 100% growth and 100% income, hope it performs better
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Meaning you got 2 portfolios now?
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Meaning you got 2 portfolios now?
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Yes. One is 100% growth and the other 100% income
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Notice that there're 2 laggards in the Growth portfolio which is EWS and EWU.
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Yes, I see those 2 culprits
ISHARES MSCI SINGAPORE (EWS)
ISHARES MSCI UNITED KINGDOM (EWU)

Hopefully they do an optimization soon
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Yes, I see those 2 culprits
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Hopefully they do an optimization soon
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If I'm not mistaken, these 2 ETFs have been there for months since early of this year.
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Singapore Overtakes Thailand to Become Asia’s Worst Stock Market

Singapore stocks took a beating this week amid the twin uncertainties of the U.S. election and the worsening pandemic in the West, overtaking Thailand to become Asia’s worst equity market this year.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/202...nd=premium-asia

This could explain why EWS is the laggard in the portfolio. sweat.gif

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Oct 30 2020, 05:29 PM)
Singapore Overtakes Thailand to Become Asia’s Worst Stock Market

Singapore stocks took a beating this week amid the twin uncertainties of the U.S. election and the worsening pandemic in the West, overtaking Thailand to become Asia’s worst equity market this year.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/202...nd=premium-asia

This could explain why EWS is the laggard in the portfolio. sweat.gif
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It's a good thing then diversification in the portfolio offset the risk. It's quite hard to lose or gain

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ETFs 101

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Many have asked what an ETF is when realising that MYTHEO invests into many ETFs within the 3 functional portfolios. An ETF, or better known as an Exchange Traded Fund, is basically a collection of securities – such as stocks, bonds or commodities – that often tracks an underlying index. To break it down further, I personally always prefer to refer to an ETF as a basket of stocks or securities within a particular index and to illustrate this further simplistically, I will be using the S&P 500 Index to further explain. The S&P 500 is a market-capitalization-weighted index of the 500 largest U.S. publicly traded companies. The index is widely regarded as the best gauge of large-cap U.S. equities. Apple, Netflix and Disney are examples of stocks traded on the S&P 500 Index. The S&P 500 Index Fund is an ETF that tracks the movement of the S&P 500 Index. That means that by buying the S&P 500 Index Fund ETF, you would be buying the equivalent of the basket of stocks listed in the S&P 500 Index.

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This is the first time my Growth portfolio has return more than 2% in USD.
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This is the first time my Growth portfolio has return more than 2% in USD.
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QUOTE(omegaoracle @ Oct 27 2020, 10:08 AM)
Yes. One is 100% growth and the other 100% income
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i also use this strategy now... just mine are 100% growth and 100% inflation... easier to track performance...

for income category, i can just buy local bond fund/ASNB fix price fund/SSPN, not worth to spend 1% fee per year on mytheo for income fund...

This post has been edited by memorylane: Nov 7 2020, 04:45 PM
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QUOTE(memorylane @ Nov 7 2020, 04:41 PM)
i also use this strategy now... just mine are 100% growth and 100% inflation... easier to track performance... 

for income category, i can just buy local bond fund/ASNB fix price fund/SSPN, not worth to spend 1% fee per year on mytheo for income fund...
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growth about 6% , since August 2020... inflation just started, cant measure yet...
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QUOTE(omegaoracle @ Oct 26 2020, 08:09 PM)
4 months invested in 2 portfolios in MyTheo, one thing really stands out - It's really difficult to lose money OR make money because its so diversified.
Even if your investment is RM100, you're invested in a long list of ETFs. Recently, I changed my portfolios to 100% growth and 100% income, hope it performs better
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I agree, just seems like a complete waste of time.

I'll probably try what you're doing now, if not much impact, will swap it over to a different roboadviser.
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I agree, just seems like a complete waste of time.

I'll probably try what you're doing now, if not much impact, will swap it over to a different roboadviser.
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So you switched out to other roboadviser?
Which one you switched to?
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So you switched out to other roboadviser?
Which one you switched to?
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I agree, just seems like a complete waste of time.

I'll probably try what you're doing now, if not much impact, will swap it over to a different roboadviser.
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I already left mytheo in January.
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I agree, just seems like a complete waste of time.

I'll probably try what you're doing now, if not much impact, will swap it over to a different roboadviser.
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You should try Wahed, only 3 fund they invested (for very aggressive portfolio) laugh.gif
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This is the first time I see my 100% Growth portfolio gain in USD is more than 5%.

This post has been edited by GrumpyNooby: Nov 12 2020, 09:31 AM
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This is the first time I see my 100% Growth portfolio gain in USD is more than 5%.
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Me too laugh.gif Currently TWR = 5.42%
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Me too  laugh.gif Currently TWR = 5.42%
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But EWS is still in red. dry.gif
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But EWS is still in red.  dry.gif
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Me too  laugh.gif Currently TWR = 5.42%
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Hands are getting itchy now to cash out since it's green. sweat.gif
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Hands are getting itchy now to cash out since it's green. sweat.gif
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Probably a good idea if you had planned to move fund elsewhere
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Probably a good idea if you had planned to move fund elsewhere
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Maybe to SAMY or Wahed. tongue.gif
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Performance Review: October 2020

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Uncertainty over the US presidential election, failed Brexit deals and the re-emergence of COVID-19 in the US and Europe have caused the market sell-off in October.

However, the market in Asia fared much better as there were no political events in this region. The pandemic remains a threat, but the number of new cases did not rise sporadically like in the US or Europe. Hence, investors saw fewer risks and bought more assets in Asia. That's why the Asian market, notably China, had outperformed the US and European markets in October.

By investing in MYTHEO, investors will have a share of benefits from the positive performance in China and the Asian market. MYTHEO's Growth portfolio invests in China through Large Cap China ETFs (FXI) and Hong Kong shares (EWH), which consist of companies that operate in China. Besides, MYTHEO also holds the Pacific ETF (VPL) that give not just additional exposure in China but also exposure to other pacific countries such as Japan, South Korea, Australia, Singapore and New Zealand. In MYTHEO, all these are made possible because of the geographical diversification that is spread across more than 80 countries.

On US politics, Joe Biden of Democrat was declared a winner in the US presidential election. As highlighted in our previous article, ‘Does the US Presidential Election Affect Your Investment?’, whether the President is a Democrat or Republican matters the least to the financial market. The US economy is huge and complex and government policies are just part of it. All monetary policies are taken care of by the Federal Reserve, which is independent from the President's office.

https://www.mytheo.my/mytheo/blog-app/73-pe...ew-october-2020
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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Nov 12 2020, 08:21 PM)
Maybe to SAMY or Wahed.  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Nov 26 2020, 04:06 PM)
Not yet.
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Now i discover they will adjust our portfolio as they want. Difference method to handle our fund compare to SAMY.
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QUOTE(tsutsugami86 @ Nov 26 2020, 04:10 PM)
Now i discover they will adjust our portfolio as they want. Difference method to handle our fund compare to SAMY.
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Yes but the problem is that don't what is being adjusted.
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Yes but the problem is that don't what is being adjusted.
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Agree, hopefully they can give us detail monthly report like SAMY.
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Return to date in term of USD has breaches 10%! hmm.gif
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Return to date in term of USD has breaches 10%! hmm.gif
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Simple return or TWR ?
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Simple return or TWR ?
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Simpel from their app.
TWR or MWR info is available?
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Simpel from their app.
TWR or MWR info is available?
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Got TWR, click again the simple return, then it will change to TWR.
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Got TWR, click again the simple return, then it will change to TWR.
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Got it. Thanks for the tips.
It's around 5% only. sweat.gif
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Got it. Thanks for the tips.
It's around 5% only. sweat.gif
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my portfolio (USD) - TWR 15%
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same here, TWR 16.5% so far, even better than SA! biggrin.gif
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same here, TWR 16.5% so far, even better than SA!  biggrin.gif
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same here, TWR 16.5% so far, even better than SA!  biggrin.gif
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yes stashaway is getting performance low
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tsutsugami86 still holding?
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Yes, top up more.
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Good that you still have faith over it.
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Just invest not more than a year, so far now see got return, I can continue do DCA.

Have you discover Mytheo keep very low amount in hand compare to SAMY and Wahed? They invested almost 99.9% money and left few sen of USD.
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QUOTE(tsutsugami86 @ Dec 9 2020, 12:17 PM)
Just invest not more than a year, so far now see got return, I can continue do DCA.

Have you discover Mytheo keep very low amount in hand compare to SAMY and Wahed? They invested almost 99.9% money and left few sen of USD.
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I believe SAMY cash allocation is fixed at 1%.

That why MyTheo will adjust your portfolio (sell I believe) to offset the monthly management fee.

This post has been edited by GrumpyNooby: Dec 9 2020, 12:19 PM
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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Dec 9 2020, 12:18 PM)
I believe SAMY cash allocation is fixed at 1%.

That why MyTheo will adjust your portfolio (sell I believe) to offset the monthly management fee.
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Feel like Mytheo's management fee quite cheap, maybe my investment amount not much.

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Feel like Mytheo's management fee quite cheap, maybe my investment amount not much.
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The management is fixed formula based on valuation of your portfolio.
Cheap is rather subjective and relative.
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You lose faith over it?
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Based on the initial hiccups experience, truth answer is YES.
Just hands are itchy when seeing positive return now.
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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Dec 9 2020, 12:49 PM)
Based on the initial hiccups experience, truth answer is YES.
Just hands are itchy when seeing positive return now.
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I invest in Mytheo just for diversification. Mainly still concentrate on SAMY

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I invest in Mytheo just for diversification. Mainly still concentrate on SAMY
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The problem is that I feel is overdiversification.
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i just started 4 months ago only. so far satisfy with the return.

i prefer mytheo than SAMY because i don't like Gold ETF...
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Performance Review: November 2020

November was a good month for most investors who were skewed towards higher risk portfolio strategies. Global equity markets recovered spectacularly after two months of consecutive losses. Money poured into risky assets including equities, commodities and high yield bonds after the US election concluded with Joe Biden thriving against Donald Trump.

Adding to the bullish sentiment was a series of positive news on the development of COVID-19 vaccines. In November, COVID-19 vaccine projects by Pfizer, Moderna and a collaboration between AstraZeneca and Oxford University all reported encouraging test results. The upbeat market sentiment pushed the US Dow Jones Index up by 11.84% to hit a new key milestone on 24 November 2020, surpassing the 30,000 points level for the first time in history.

While we see some happy faces from investors, some are concerned over the performance of Gold, the US Treasury and the US Dollar. It is just not possible to have different assets perform well all at the same time. Even though November was a good month for many, investors who invested in safe-haven assets took a bite.

A distinguishing feature of MYTHEO when compared to other platforms in the market is that MYTHEO invests across different assets by grouping them separately in three functional portfolios: Growth, Income and Inflation Hedge. More importantly, each functional portfolio has an algorithm of its own to manage and allocate the assets efficiently. Besides that, MYTHEO is equipped with an algorithm that rebalances and reallocates automatically to ensure that your investments are optimized across all market cycles.

https://www.mytheo.my/mytheo/blog/74-perfor...w-november-2020
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MYTHEO from the start has had a tilt towards value and a weaker dollar so as long as those trends continue like for the past 3 months then MYTHEO will outperform.

Below is an example of the iShares MSCI United Kingdom ETF (EWU) vs iShares Currency Hedged MSCI United Kingdom ETF (HEWU) to show the effect from the dollar depreciation from the March bottom.

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My portfolio has been adjusted.

The only difference that I can remember/notice is addition of iSHARES MSCI USA ESG SELECT ETF (SUSA)
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My portfolio has been adjusted.

The only difference that I can remember/notice is addition of iSHARES MSCI USA ESG SELECT ETF (SUSA)
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add in new ETF ? My portfolio don't have adjustment hmm.gif
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Time in the Market vs Timing the Market

There were comments relating to investments on the news and social media as a result of the US Presidential Elections. Some of these comments in investing forums were about general themes such as:

1. How will the market react after the US Presidential Elections?
2. Is it better to sell off my investments and wait until after the elections to begin reinvesting?
3. What are other investors doing to prepare for a potential market sell down after the elections?

Time in the Market is key
Sam and Jack each invested $30,000 every year on January 1 for 10 years—regardless of whether the market was up or down. But Sam started 20 years ago, whereas Jack started only 10 years ago. Although they each invested a total of $30,000, by 2017 Sam had about $30,000 more because he was in the market longer. This is not rocket science, as Sam’s end value would have been a result of having the benefit of time to allow his returns to compound over a 20-year period.

Predicting Market Highs and Market Lows
To quote Peter Lynch, an American investor, mutual fund manager and philanthropist: Far more money has been lost by investors preparing for corrections, or trying to anticipate corrections, than has been lost in corrections themselves. This describes the investor behaviour that was mentioned above, with some investors trying to advocate for others to hold cash and to try and time the market.

Conclusion
We hope that the two points presented above will help present a different view and approach to all investors as well as provide information on the benefits of having ‘Time in the Market’ vs trying to ‘Time the Market’. While timing the market may have certain benefits as well, we hope our investors will make informed investment decisions at all times.

MYTHEO, as a digital investment management service, takes a disciplined investment approach by investing for the long term, implementing passive management, avoiding market timing and diversifying across multiple asset classes. In addition, MYTHEO’s regular savings plan enables investors to increase ‘Time in the Market’ by investing consistently.

So do take advantage of MYTHEO’s features to achieve your investment goals. Till then, happy investing.

https://www.mytheo.my/mytheo/blog-app/75-ti...ming-the-market
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Finally found SUSA in my portfolio, it replace the VOT.
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Market Rallies On in December 2020

The market has been rising strongly since April 2020 and last month was no exception as the equity market still produced decent gains. The S&P 500 Index gained by 3.7%, and the NASDAQ Composite Index gained even higher by 5.7%. There was plenty of good news that supported the market rally during the month.

The rally first started when the US Congress finally struck a deal for an additional second stimulus package of US$900 billion that includes a weekly payment of US$600 to individuals with annual incomes of less than USD75,000 to support the economy. The news got better after an intervention by President Trump, in which the U.S. House of Representatives passed a bill called the CASH Act on 28 December 2020, that could substantially raise the payment from US$600 to US$2,000.

The biggest news of the month was from Europe when the United Kingdom (UK) and the European Union (EU) had finally clinched a long-negotiated Brexit deal. The UK is free to set its own trade policy and negotiate trade deals directly with other countries. The UK stock market and British pound (GBP) rallied higher after the news broke out as it marked the end of uncertainties over Brexit after more than four and a half years.

2020 is the year to remember for being the year of the worst market correction and the best market rebound put together in a pot. Nobody would have anticipated that they would have faced the fastest market meltdown in history just to be reversed by the fastest ever market melt-up. The vaccination program will be the game-changer for the economy and market to return to normal. In spite of this, investors may still have to brace volatility in the first part of the year and expect a few countries to continue imposing lockdowns to contain the virus as we expect the program's impact to only be seen and felt in the second half of the year.

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MYTHEO’s Investment Strategy Webinar

We thank you for being a part of the MYTHEO family. The year 2020 was definitely one of the most challenging years where the world stood still due to the on-going pandemic. Nonetheless, it was a year of learning for everyone, from exploring new interests to adapting to new norms and appreciating the little blessings that we have every day.

While we hope that you’ve had a great start in year 2021 so far, we would like to take this opportunity to help you learn more about MYTHEO. We will be organizing a webinar next week, in which our Chief Operating Officer (COO), Mr. Matthew Stuart-Box will be sharing about MYTHEO’s investment strategy and philosophy in detail with you.

Please find the details pertaining to the webinar below:

Title: MYTHEO’s Investment Strategy and Philosophy
Date: 28th January 2021 (Thursday)
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As this webinar is limited to the first 100 registrants, kindly register as soon as possible. We look forward to meet you and do feel free to ask any “burning” questions you might have about MYTHEO!

Feel free to reach out to our Customer Experience Team via a call at +603-8408 1613 or drop us a line at contact@mytheo.my if you need any assistance or further information.
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2. All MYTHEO Customers, both new and existing, are eligible to participate in this promotion
3. A MYTHEO Customer who has successfully deposited a minimum of RM1,888 in a single transaction during the promotional period will be eligible for an additional top-up of RM8 (CNY Top-Up Bonus) into his/her MYTHEO account
4. The CNY Top-Up Bonus is limited to the first 500 eligible MYTHEO Customers
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Time for top up soon 👏
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So signal to enter?
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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Feb 12 2021, 09:14 AM)
So signal to enter?
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Definitely next week time to enter

How’s your portfolio doing in MyTheo?
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Definitely next week time to enter

How’s your portfolio doing in MyTheo?
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About 15% simple ROI in USD

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About 15% simple ROI in USD
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YTD or since 1st deposit?

Still not bad with 15% as compared to Wahed rclxms.gif
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YTD or since 1st deposit?

Still not bad with 15% as compared to Wahed  rclxms.gif
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Should be since 1st deposit.
The number gotten from their app/portal.
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Asian equities continued to outperform US equities

In January 2021, Asian equities continued to outperform United States (US) equities. Slower activities in the first half of the year resulted in the US economy contracting by 3.5% for the full-year 2020, which is the first decline since 2009. In a post-meeting conference, the Federal Open Market Committee (FOMC) chairman, Jerome Power, said that the economy is still a long way from a full recovery and that the FOMC remained committed to keeping the monetary policy loose.

A trading frenzy on the online videogame retailer GameStop was the most unexpected event in January 2021. At the end of the month, in just a few days, the share price of GameStop plunged by more than 80%. Many investors were caught unprepared and it was impossible to avoid the losses, given how quickly the share price had reversed. This is precisely what MYTHEO’s algorithms help investors to avoid - a potential financial loss due to irrational behaviour. Whenever any exchange-traded fund (ETF) is getting too "hot" or trading at excessive risks, MYTHEO’s algorithms will automatically reduce or remove the ETF from the portfolio.

Hence, with MYTHEO, investors are always protected against a drastic move in the share price and any unnecessary risks. As such, investors can achieve their long-term financial objectives with a peace of mind.

Wish to read MYTHEO’s January 2021 performance? Click here.
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Anyone here try their income fund?

It seems to beat EPF by 0.5% yearly
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Is it me or what?

I can't flip to USD valuation in MyTheo (Web):

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I remembered there was a button to flip between USD and MYR at the main page.

Did I miss anything?
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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Mar 2 2021, 08:58 PM)
Is it me or what?

I can't flip to USD valuation in MyTheo (Web):

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I remembered there was a button to flip between USD and MYR at the main page.

Did I miss anything?
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still works for me..
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still works for me..
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Where is the button in the web to flip portfolio currency?
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FYI for those who have never made an withdrawal, its better that you set up your bank account in advance, just found out that when I want to withdraw, they want me to set up a bank account first that needs to be verified by them.
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QUOTE(Hoshiyuu @ Mar 23 2021, 03:21 AM)
FYI for those who have never made an withdrawal, its better that you set up your bank account in advance, just found out that when I want to withdraw, they want me to set up a bank account first that needs to be verified by them.
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Even if you setup the bank account, you need to setup again upon withdrawal as Mytheo needs the verification for bank transfers in order for them to comply with AMLA as it their mechanism for secured transfers doh.gif
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QUOTE(xander83 @ Mar 23 2021, 06:23 AM)
Even if you setup the bank account, you need to setup again upon withdrawal as Mytheo needs the verification for bank transfers in order for them to comply with AMLA as it their mechanism for secured transfers  doh.gif
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Do other robo investment like srashaway or wahed also need us to set up our withdrawal bank account again when we withdraw the 1st time?
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Mar 23 2021, 08:22 AM)
Do other robo investment like srashaway or  wahed also need us to set up our withdrawal bank account again when we withdraw the 1st time?
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StashAway has a proper withdrawal process because they will store your bank account details in their server hence no need verification

On Wahed there’s another declaration to re confirm your bank account

Which is why SA withdrawals is the fastest of all within to 3 to 5 days while MyTheo and Wahed has a horrible process which takes 5 to 7 days

Another factor possibilty on how to do trade settlements by the trustee which declaration by BNM is more detailed clearance needed on Mytheo and Wahed use some local banks to do the clearances

SA wins in all terms of usability of all of the money from deposit to withdrawal they only lack detail insights on how your reform should which only Mytheo has so far
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Received my money since submit request on 24 Mar... full withdrawal but somehow left 50cents inside.

Ah well, at least my account closing process started, they say need to wait 6 months ?_? but sure I guess.
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QUOTE(Hoshiyuu @ Mar 29 2021, 06:55 PM)
Received my money since submit request on 24 Mar... full withdrawal but somehow left 50cents inside.

Ah well, at least my account closing process started, they say need to wait 6 months ?_? but sure I guess.
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It is basically to cover account closing charges

So for every rm100 they will withhold rm0.08 as closing account charges
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post Aug 12 2021, 08:53 AM

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Is there any long term performance chart for each portfolio, probably beginning of MyTheo? Can't seem to find it in the blog
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post Aug 12 2021, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(jutamind @ Aug 12 2021, 08:53 AM)
Is there any long term performance chart for each portfolio, probably beginning of MyTheo? Can't seem to find it in the blog
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i managed to get these from the blog...
need to add them up
MISSING July to Dec 2020 performance....if want them have to get them from the blog then add the performance of each month from July till Dec 2020


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post Mar 22 2022, 11:23 AM

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just curious, is MYTHEO 100% AI managed, or got human fund manager like Freddie in Stashaway?
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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Mar 22 2022, 11:23 AM)
just curious, is MYTHEO 100% AI managed, or got human fund manager like Freddie in Stashaway?
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Ai managed but asset allocation is already selected a long long time ago and seldom change doh.gif
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QUOTE(xander83 @ Mar 22 2022, 04:05 PM)
Ai managed but asset allocation is already selected a long long time ago and seldom change  doh.gif
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Thanks.. Inflation Hedge one good as you recommend. Maybe due to rising inflation ongoing now.
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post Mar 23 2022, 09:57 PM

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robo adviser means the artificial intelligent/ system will provide the necessary data and info to the human. And human (another nicer word is investing committee) make decision after analyse the system data.
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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Mar 23 2022, 09:38 PM)
Thanks.. Inflation Hedge one good as you recommend. Maybe due to rising inflation ongoing now.
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So far most resilient and better returns than most fixed income doh.gif

Much better than SA inflation hedge doh.gif


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Anyone here invest in global esg?
What's your thought on that portfolio?
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https://www.mytheo.my/mytheo/mytheo-blog/ju...nce-report.html

no so ideal monthly performance

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I think the investment market in general have been a really bad YTD. Majority of my blue-chip stocks lost heavily esp tech.

S&P 500 dropped closed to -20+% ~ Compared to MYTHEO Growth -14.82%
Global Bond drop -10+% ~ Compared to MYTHEO Income -7.07%

(So technically, hedging on a Robo-advisory still able to reduce your losses when compared to Benchmark due to their diversification)

I believe if you are able to hold / add on to your position for a year + maybe 2. When the market recovers your profits will too.




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Affin taking over MYTHEO
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post Dec 26 2022, 08:10 AM

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anyone tried their USD cash trust?
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Dec 26 2022, 08:10 AM)
anyone tried their USD cash trust?
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I don't understand why there is a 0.5% p.a. fees for this.
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QUOTE(kelvinjohn @ Dec 26 2022, 12:36 PM)
I don't understand why there is a 0.5% p.a. fees for this.
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To cover FX spread and transaction fees imposed by MYTHEO and IBKR

Also bank transfer fees as well 🤦‍♀️

If you want put USD better off directly at IBKR as the returns are horrible at projected 2.4%
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2022 last thread
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QUOTE(wufei @ Sep 22 2023, 08:51 PM)
2022 last thread
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Considering putting in if they have a fixed deposit type of fund.

I can get bonus points from bonus link as well.
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QUOTE(BrookLes @ Sep 22 2023, 10:25 PM)
Considering putting in if they have a fixed deposit type of fund.

I can get bonus points from bonus link as well.
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There is under Cash Trust but withdraw will be a problem instead 🤦‍♀️

 

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