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 Ultimate Discussions of ASNB Fixed Price UT, Magical UT only in Malaysia

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ikanbilis
post Aug 16 2019, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(beLIEve @ Aug 16 2019, 02:09 PM)
can share more how you examine kah? i hope not based on total income.
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Based on my profession as a chartered accountant FCCA. tongue.gif

The article I attached already shed some lights on why I only choose ASM and ASM2. I will not go into details as many people here are trying hard to get into ASx whether ASM, ASM2 or ASM3


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post Aug 16 2019, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(ikanbilis @ Aug 16 2019, 04:23 PM)
Based on my profession as a chartered accountant FCCA.  tongue.gif

The article I attached already shed some lights on why I only choose ASM and ASM2. I will not go into details as many people here are trying hard to get into ASx whether ASM, ASM2 or ASM3
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Unfortunately your profession or any data given to public doesn't works for these fixed price funds.

Hints,
- it can gives dividend no matter how bad is the economy
- it got unknown reserves
- ASB definitely can pay more dividend
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post Aug 16 2019, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(ikanbilis @ Aug 16 2019, 04:23 PM)
Based on my profession as a chartered accountant FCCA.  tongue.gif

The article I attached already shed some lights on why I only choose ASM and ASM2. I will not go into details as many people here are trying hard to get into ASx whether ASM, ASM2 or ASM3
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ahhh ok. John also has minimal exposure to ASM3 for unknown reasons. I blindly followed him tongue.gif Other than that, it was very easy to get ASM3 back then, so I focused on the more difficult ASM1 and ASM2 first. I think ASM2 safest since it has bumi reserved quota.
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post Aug 16 2019, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(vanitas @ Aug 16 2019, 04:30 PM)
Unfortunately your profession or any data given to public doesn't works for these fixed price funds.

Hints,
- it can gives dividend no matter how bad is the economy
- it got unknown reserves
- ASB definitely can pay more dividend
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All your hints I already knew years ago since I have invested in ASM2 since 1996. U dont have to be so defensive as I have said its a matter of personal preference of choice. I am certain ASM2 and ASM3 will give the same dividend rate this coming Sep and Oct

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post Aug 16 2019, 05:28 PM

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Pada 21 Februari 2019, saiz ASM yang dibenarkan telah ditingkatkan dari 19.843 bilion unit kepada 23.50 bilion unit.

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post Aug 16 2019, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(beLIEve @ Aug 16 2019, 05:28 PM)
Pada 21 Februari 2019, saiz ASM yang dibenarkan telah ditingkatkan dari 19.843 bilion  unit kepada 23.50 bilion unit.
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for dividend reinvestment purposes only...

so how much they add also.. unless existing unit holders sell.. we cannot buy biggrin.gif
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post Aug 16 2019, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Aug 16 2019, 06:21 PM)
for dividend reinvestment purposes only...

so how much they add also.. unless existing unit holders sell.. we cannot buy  biggrin.gif
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But you always say cannot/difficult to get approval to enlarge the fund?

No market crash, no sale. But yes sale if willing to buy with VP bundle.
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post Aug 16 2019, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(beLIEve @ Aug 16 2019, 07:35 PM)
But you always say cannot/difficult to get approval to enlarge the fund?

No market crash, no sale. But yes sale if willing to buy with VP bundle.
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Did I said that? 🤔🤔

Normally I says SC don't want give approval for new FP funds 😑
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Aug 16 2019, 08:25 PM)
Did I said that? 🤔🤔

Normally I says SC don't want give approval for new FP funds 😑
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Remember the suspension theory for ASM 1?

If major market crash, I can't think of a reason not to. Of course, there's plenty of room left for ASM 3 before the needs of a new FP fund. ASM 3 was launched in the midst of the last global financial crisis right?
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QUOTE(beLIEve @ Aug 16 2019, 08:39 PM)
Remember the suspension theory for ASM 1?

If major market crash, I can't think of a reason not to. Of course, there's plenty of room left for ASM 3 before the needs of a new FP fund. ASM 3 was launched in the midst of the last global financial crisis right?
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Ooh... Hehehe.. that time alot of crazy theory 🤣 some even mention convert to VP 😋

Around 2009 like that... But that bursa already up halfway.... So if now, there's crash.. first to badly hurt is the fund. No wonder @ ikanbilis boss reduce his exposure 😁

Least affected is ASW 💪 since fund size is big, also entry cost lower overall....
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Aug 16 2019, 08:47 PM)
Around 2009 like that... But that bursa already up halfway.... So if now, there's crash.. first to badly hurt is the fund.  No wonder @ ikanbilis boss reduce his exposure 😁

Least affected is ASW 💪 since fund size is big, also entry cost lower overall....
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He said based on financial report and that screenshot.

About ASW, not 100% sure unless it has a lot of reserves. Most profit already returned as dividend, unless low entry cost and unsold != Profit, therefore they can cash out any time for a huge profit from 1996.
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post Aug 16 2019, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(beLIEve @ Aug 16 2019, 09:22 PM)
He said based on financial report and that screenshot.

About ASW, not 100% sure unless it has a lot of reserves. Most profit already returned as dividend, unless low entry cost and unsold != Profit, therefore they can cash out any time for a huge profit from 1996.
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100% sure it is top 10 shareholders of Maybank. It might don't have profit, but definitely got assets (to sell if needed).
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QUOTE(beLIEve @ Aug 16 2019, 09:22 PM)
He said based on financial report and that screenshot.

About ASW, not 100% sure unless it has a lot of reserves. Most profit already returned as dividend, unless low entry cost and unsold != Profit, therefore they can cash out any time for a huge profit from 1996.
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One problem with the find is the lack of information on the shareholding... They just print top 20 investee companies only...

I'm think they got still some leftovers reserved... Not very huge I guess... They don't print that info anymore...so we can just speculate only 😑
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QUOTE(vanitas @ Aug 16 2019, 09:29 PM)
100% sure it is top 10 shareholders of Maybank. It might don't have profit, but definitely got assets (to sell if needed).
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if they bought near the bottom of the crash, by KLCI, around 6000-8000% gain now. so anytime can sell to realize the gain.

QUOTE(nexona88 @ Aug 16 2019, 09:38 PM)
One problem with the find is the lack of information on the shareholding... They just print top 20 investee companies only...

I'm think they got still some leftovers reserved... Not very huge I guess... They don't print that info anymore...so we can just speculate only 😑
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if everything show you, you can start Amanah Saham Nexona 88 already loh.

Leftover got mention in the annual report la. you promised me you'd do a second reading for me but never did tongue.gif They said something like minimal cash holdings, and I think they gave the figure also.

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laugh.gif laugh.gif

As if SC would ever give approval for new funds 😎
Private fund maybe can.. Or I do investment seminars.. Sure bring in the $$$ one... Many water fish around 😈😈 tell them I give better return than ASx 😁

Anyhow.. Dividend announcement is near... With Major shareholding Maybank cannot recognized already.. Seriously how the dividend rate would be...

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Is it possible to buy units today? since today is 'sabtu minggu ketiga"
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post Aug 17 2019, 11:53 AM

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Is it possible to buy units today? since today is 'sabtu minggu ketiga"
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Buy online via myasnb or app(not sure) Yes, provided there is sufficient quota to buy.
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QUOTE(INTEGRITYXXXXX @ Aug 17 2019, 11:50 AM)
Is it possible to buy units today? since today is 'sabtu minggu ketiga"
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15mins to go?
Any luck getting units
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I'm wondering Sat and Sun possible to get any units ?
Since ASNB office and banks closed , or there is other ways to sell units on weekend ?
'Sabtu minggu ketiga' transaction time 7am - 1pm only ?

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