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post Jun 28 2007, 03:50 PM

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if that car comes with 4 disc brakes with abs and airbags, say bye bye to myvi or viva

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post Jun 28 2007, 05:14 PM

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BLM is gonna be fitted with Campro 1.3...

the cheaper BLM will be plain campro and the higher version BLM will be campro 1.3 with CPS....

campro 1.3 (94HP)
campro 1.3 CPS (97-98HP)

easily one of the more powerful 1.3 engines around.....
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post Jun 28 2007, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(hyperx @ Jun 28 2007, 05:16 PM)
naah.. i guess he wanna this BLM to have features like LED lights or 90 degrees door open  tongue.gif that is not dumb right..
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why 90 degrees door opening when the boot is obviously much bigger then the car that can open door 90 degrees....
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post Jun 28 2007, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(Azuma-kun @ Jun 28 2007, 05:32 PM)
Why not. People really impress when a door can open at 90 degrees? unsure.gif

btw, i really sure that the boot have a lip spoiler.
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as usual, the higher spec of BLM will have the goodies
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edit: quite reliable source did mentioned airbags and abs for the higher spec BLM...

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post Jun 28 2007, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(Azuma-kun @ Jun 28 2007, 05:46 PM)
Normal version should have airbags and abs too.
Higher spec with more safety features. That can kill any low end model.
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just wait and see ler... july is just a few days away...
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dont think normal version will have airbags and abs...
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post Jun 29 2007, 12:39 AM

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QUOTE(@meno @ Jun 28 2007, 10:27 PM)
1.3 Campro with CPS should be able to pull out >95bhp, for a small car i do not see it being so bad considering the current LMST doesn't even have this amount of horsepower, so as the Iswaras. 5 fat man and load of luggages, then you gotta find a big fat car with loadsa trunk space... tongue.gif
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1.3 campro with cps is rated at 98-99 BHP...

QUOTE(haze @ Jun 28 2007, 10:30 PM)
well dont u know that the campro 1.3 has 94hp@6krpm and 120nm@4krpm.  Now we know that campro has problem with its low end torque, but with the implemention of CPS it will fix that torque problem and also raise its hp by 2-3hp.

This practically makes the campro 1.3 the more powerful 1.3l engine out there. I guess the closest rival for this car is the myvi which outputs 85hp@6krpm and 116nm@3200rpm

To say this car is underpowered then others 1.3l cars are definitely not true. Well just wait for cps to come out and see the result
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myvi WITH DVVT on wheel is just a puny 55HP, that with KNN drop in and lightened crank pulley...

campro 1.3 WITHOUT cps stock on wheel is able to get you close to 88HP.....

so go figure....

pics of chart will be posted when i get my hands on it....

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post Jun 29 2007, 01:03 AM

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QUOTE(@meno @ Jun 29 2007, 12:49 AM)
Azuma-Kun, nice one there.
Looks like it's gonna be based on the Logan platform after all.
And the 1.3 Campro with CPS will be able to pull out more horsies than the standard 1.6 Logan engine.
And it doesn't look that bad after all.

Btw kcng, thanx for the facts.
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no problem dude...
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QUOTE(Azuma-kun @ Jun 29 2007, 12:49 AM)
With light mod, 1.3 CPS campro  can get more than 100hp sleep.gif
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100HP for a 1.3 CPS campro is indeed a posibility but to convert it all to the wheel is another issue
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QUOTE(travis_ckf @ Jun 29 2007, 12:54 AM)
Although the campro 1.3 has more HP than typical 1.3 engines, i still doubt on why there underpower issues esp on the gen2 1.3. Could it be the mismatch of the gearbox? I know proton auto gearbox is a poor product frm mitsubishi. sweat.gif
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the gen2 1.3 is because of the gearbox mismatch......
u try out the neo 1.3 manual and see
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QUOTE(@meno @ Jun 29 2007, 12:58 AM)
Hmm, considering the Logan is a pretty small car, i wonder will it be too much to actually have the Campro with CPS powering it. I mean, 98/99BHP for such a small car, won't it be a little, errr...dangerous?
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nope, its the driver that will make the car dangerous....
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Added on June 29, 2007, 1:06 amAs promised,

campro 1.3 dyno chart

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i will get the myvi chart up tomorrow cuz my fren is asleep now....
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call him, he din pick up
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post Jun 29 2007, 01:12 AM

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QUOTE(@meno @ Jun 29 2007, 01:10 AM)
Hmm, considering the Logan is a pretty small car, i wonder will it be too much to actually have the Campro with CPS powering it. I mean, 98/99BHP for such a small car, won't it be a little, errr...dangerous?
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lol
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anyway, suzuki swift is quite small too but its 1.5 VVT engine is able to push out 100++ HP.....

so, no it wont be dangerous but again the driver will make it dangerous
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post Jun 29 2007, 07:13 AM

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QUOTE(jssim @ Jun 29 2007, 03:17 AM)
how about kancil turbo with 83hp? i try to ask my fren post the dyno chart..
but my fren drive his car +-80km/h, so slow~~~
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we are talking about stock car here ler....

and this topic is about the new baseline model (BLM) from proton
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post Jun 29 2007, 07:53 PM

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post Jun 30 2007, 01:50 AM

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hahahaha
let just wait and see ler....
2-3 more weeks only what
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sabar sabar.....
but just cant wait to see the specs only
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post Jul 1 2007, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(haze @ Jun 30 2007, 07:25 PM)
anyway does anyone know when this car will launch? I know that the gen2 sedan will be launched in august but when will they launch this BLM??
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mid-july for the CPS gen2...
most likely together with the BLM too since we are getting more spyshots of it lately.....
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post Jul 2 2007, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(wut2du @ Jul 2 2007, 12:53 PM)
is it true on mid of july? how u know?
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it is mentioned before so many times already la.....
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but the question remains, will proton delay the date again.... like what happen to the satria neo launching back in 2006
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post Jul 2 2007, 10:01 PM

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they better not launch neo with CPS this year, i am gonna personally burn down their factory...
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post Jul 2 2007, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(haze @ Jul 2 2007, 10:06 PM)
hehe if they sell the neo1.3 CPS this year i thin im going to drop savvy in my to-buy list and get the neo 1.3 CPS instead. Too bad the rear seat of the NEO is quite useless> i guess that is what u get form door cars.

But then BLM coming out also. Now got 3 choices to buy. Savvy, Neo 1.3 or BLM. hmmm choices...

But who can confirm that the BLM 1.3 will come with VIM? cant they put CPS too inside.
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most likely the 1.3 BLM will have 2 specs, like vios E n G spec....

and most likely the higher spec BLM should have airbags, abs etc and powered by campro with cps....

where as the lower spec, well, lower spec speaks for itself right?
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Added on July 2, 2007, 10:14 pm
QUOTE(caviars @ Jul 2 2007, 10:11 PM)
How good actually this CPS and is it worth it? Let say u need to add up additional RM 7K (versus no CPS) are you guys still interested?
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shot you back the same question

kembara with DVVT or without DVVT ? (without is cheaper by 7k)
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post Jul 3 2007, 12:12 AM

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post Jul 3 2007, 12:40 AM

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QUOTE(CoupeFan @ Jul 3 2007, 12:38 AM)
i'm still waiting for the neo R3 with the REAL engine/... perfect driving machine
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what is your definition of REAL engine ?
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post Jul 3 2007, 12:46 AM

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QUOTE(CoupeFan @ Jul 3 2007, 12:42 AM)
fully functional campro engine lor


Added on July 3, 2007, 12:43 amthe engine in the neos now is not fully functional mah... \
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post Jul 3 2007, 12:57 AM

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QUOTE(KiddTkl @ Jul 3 2007, 12:52 AM)
wait.. wat is cps?? campro system?? n wat is vim??
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CPS = camprofiling system
VIM = Variable Intake Manifold
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post Jul 3 2007, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(hyperx @ Jul 3 2007, 01:00 AM)
what i meant is the campro + cps + vim in that engine..
not just a vanilla dohc engine

p/s: looks like my previous comment had successfully confused our shin chan here  doh.gif
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that was done on purpose.....
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QUOTE(KiddTkl @ Jul 3 2007, 01:01 AM)
oic oic.. it's kinda funny the campro engine doesn't hav the technology... den what about VIM? i heard n read bout campro b4 but VIM is wat?
n when is those cars comin out??  i buyin iswara liao.. if those car damn nice n not veli xpensive i gonna cry sweat.gif
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VIM = variable intake manifold, something to do with the valves will vary their opening depending on the driving condition, so that it will save fuel...... something along that line la...
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this campro with CPS and VIM is coming out in mid to late july and will be found on the new gen2 / waja.....

price will be around 55k region i think

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