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post Mar 31 2009, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(Neo18 @ Mar 26 2009, 11:15 AM)
my AXREIT is now trading at higher support level of RM1.30!!!! hope it can come down to RM1.28
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Seems like AXREIT not coming down & ATRIUM slipping down slowly. Time to buy ATRIUM? hmm.gif
Anyone heard any news about whether there are new tenants for ATRIUM Shah Alam 2?

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post Mar 31 2009, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Mar 31 2009, 05:17 PM)
No news until now, they just stated they are in negotiation with some party.

If it is confirmed got new tenants with comparable rate with previous, then you probably will see the price shoot up a few cents.
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Got this info from another forum
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Atrium 2 Shah Alam tenant has vacated.

Financial Impact on Atrium;

Total Rental income p.a, Rm 13691k
Est Atrium 2 impact p.a. - Rm 4382k
Adj maintainable revenue Rm 9309k


Total earned profit b4 adj p.a. Rm 10312k
Loss of Atrium 2 income Rm 4382k
Adj Profits Rm 5930k

Nos of units 121801k
EPS Rm 0.05
Share Price Rm 0.64
Pe & Yield 13x or 7.8% p.a.

Note Atrium would only yield 7.8% p.a. based on this latest development !
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What say you ? Does it mean worst case is only get 7.8% ?
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post Apr 1 2009, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(mo_meng @ Apr 1 2009, 01:27 PM)
office building .. so scare ppl tutup no ppl wanna rent ah?
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if prime location sure got ppl want to rent biggrin.gif Only a question of how much...
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post Apr 2 2009, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Apr 2 2009, 06:14 PM)
One of the reason. I still think Axreit is the best among the reits as it is welly diversified.
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Agreed. So far I have AXREIT & ATRIUM in my portfolio. Bought these after LYN forum analysis rolleyes.gif
Besides, AXIS & ATRIUM are such cool sounding names cool2.gif

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post Apr 4 2009, 11:01 PM

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ATRIUM proceeding for court case with CEVA. Does it has long term impact?
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post Apr 17 2009, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 17 2009, 09:21 AM)
Axreit new shareholder reporting in! entry price 1.40.

reserving some funds for averaging (in future), if needed.
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Good to keep...
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post Apr 20 2009, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(kingkong81 @ Apr 20 2009, 07:52 PM)
3.9 sen...

Really good dividend...now wif its quarterly div payout...we can happy every quarter  rclxms.gif

Its Q Report looks good as well  smile.gif
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Ouch.... Regret didn't buy more when at 1.28 last month sad.gif


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post Apr 21 2009, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Apr 21 2009, 01:15 PM)
atrium i think got some issues with their tenants with ceva... they are looking for new contracts
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I think ATRIUM report is due very soon too. Mostly, it will be hit by this issue.
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post Apr 28 2009, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(Jordy @ Apr 27 2009, 07:26 PM)
I believe QCapita has more potential as their counterpart in Singapore is a huge developer. They have the experience and money, so I suppose they could have more diversified properties. The case involving ATRIUM has taught us all to buy REITs with more diversified properties.
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Depends on situation though. In good economic situation, focusing on specific industry can often gives higher returns.
I wonder when ATRIUM is releasing their report ?

Am also eyeing QCAPITA @ 0.82. Qtrly Report suppose to be out today.
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post Apr 28 2009, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 28 2009, 02:12 PM)
It doesn't affect your existing holding unit. If you have 1000 shares, you will remain as 1000 shares.
(Those new shares are issued to third party aka private placement)

Just there are more shares overall, aka previous 1000 shares mean 0.1%, now it will be diluted become like 0.07%.

So it might affect/dilute the DPU, but generally private placement money is used to acquire newer property to generate more income to offset the dilution effect, which previously 50 million private placement didn't diute the DPU instead it increase the DPU due to more newer income generated from newer properties acquired.
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Can I think of it this way ? hmm.gif

Presently I have one house and its giving me good rental income. Value of the house if RM250k and rental return is RM2500 per month. All of a sudden, my uncle calls me and says he wants to have special deal with me. He gives me another 250K to buy another house, provided that I give half share of my current house to him and half share of the new house as well.

Hence based on this scenario, if I manage to buy similar house at RM250k and rent out for similar rental return RM2500. Overall if I look at rental, no difference to me as it combine rental of both house divide by 2 still gives me the same rental yield as if I have one house.

However, if the new 250K is used to buy a house with better rental returns, then I will get more DPU. Its also possible that the new house will give lower rental whereby my DPU will drop.

In the end, its a question of how confident are we that AXREIT management will use the money to buy good properties with better yield than current house.
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post Apr 29 2009, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 29 2009, 09:34 PM)
Not what I mean, just please don't look at their lowest point to include your judgement on buy and sell decision.

But Axreit is the most diversified among the local reit.
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Can we sort of use the NAV as a yardstick for reference. E.g. AXREIT is around RM1.75, so theoritically, below, this price consider still attractive to get ?
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post Apr 30 2009, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 30 2009, 09:37 AM)
Not quite, NAV can be varied from time to time due to properties price. As with properties price is seen to be softening in the near term and with difficulty to fetch and renew lease with ease, it needs to be traded at some discount, otherwise, it is not attractive, that's what and why reits are traded at discount across.

Also what you concern about reit is its yield aka rental income. A company can have a property that worth Rm1.75 but there is no tenants, then it is not worth to buy the property at RM1.75.

NAV is not the ultimate yardstick, but long term sustainable income is the key.
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Thanks. Excellent info thumbup.gif .

Overall, I buying a REIT quite similar to buying a property for rental purpose then. Similiar concern on the location, rental yield, maintenance expenses. nod.gif
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QUOTE(ks3114 @ May 4 2009, 08:15 PM)
Atrium DPU 1.6cents onli.. sad.gif hopefully next quarters will be better after signing new contract with CEVA
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Well... they did mentioned that their bottom line would be hit because of the CEVA issue.
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post May 15 2009, 03:55 AM

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QUOTE(asambuffett @ May 15 2009, 02:26 AM)

Added on May 15, 2009, 2:28 am

maybe can strike hektar too...cause Hektar is only into Malls.... 

Qcapita has 800m of assets ( not in the range of 600m) & their largest unitholder is HSBC 30% & quill about 23%...dun think HSBC & quill will let someone else take control that easily.

I think , Most probably its Axreit , cause their assets about 600m and they are quite diversified in their properties ( so, mall can be absorbed) + EPF is the 2nd largest unit holder...baiduri only have about 13%(largest unitholder)..
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Also it seems like AXREIT has bought PKNS properties in the past.
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post Jun 3 2009, 03:40 PM

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Why are all reits very green today ? Want to buy some on dip..
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post Jul 8 2009, 05:04 PM

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ATRIUM so power one today. Any special news ?
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QUOTE(asambuffett @ Jul 9 2009, 02:18 AM)
so tempting to increase my units...but still confuse how mgmt can let CEVA owe rental payment up to RM4 million that day.

good mgmt will not let that happened. hmm.gif
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Big logistics company are hard to find in Malaysia. My guess is that at negotiating table, they must have arrive at some kind of win-win scenario. e.g. CEVA continue to rent but can pay later... or factor the oweing to higher rental (which spreads the 4 million over tenancy period).
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QUOTE(Muliku @ Jul 22 2009, 01:28 PM)
ARREIT of late noticed lotta sellers throwing to B-Q around 0.735 last few days.
Don't see any shareholding change announcement that directors are throwing. Am thinking of getting some.

Can anyone help to comment? Thanks
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I was wondering since Amanah Raya is the trustee of all those Amanah Sahams, does ARREIT stand to benefit from all those fire-sale of ASM & ASW ? Seems like AXREIT is benefitting.

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post Jul 23 2009, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(vergil90 @ Jul 23 2009, 12:51 AM)
Just wonder why all the people line up for few hours just to purchase the ASM & ASW. Since ARREIT also under Amanah Raya, i think they better invest in ARREIT and get stable 8% return, rather they get less than 8% with all the trouble (i know the ARREIT risk is higher, but in current environment i think the difference is negligible)
You forget that it takes reasonable skills and knowledge to be able to invest in the stock market. Also since ARREIT is traded on exchange, most people will already have formed their opinion on it being "risky".

Personally for me, last year, I also had the same mentality. (i.e. if anyone asked me REIT vs ASM/ASW, I would have gone for the later 100% of the time). However, since getting stock online & experiencing myself, I would say, the person would need to experience it himself to appreciate the opportunities.

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post Aug 6 2009, 01:05 PM

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Anyone know what happen to http://mreit.blogspot.com ?
It seems to have disappeared.

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