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SKY 1809
post Jan 21 2008, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Jan 21 2008, 12:57 PM)
I thought Sompo is a partner of Berjaya Insurance. Do they have an insurance licence to operate in Malaysia /

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SKY 1809
post Feb 2 2008, 04:36 PM

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Nowaday, people use Palm Oil Lands as "REIT" or similar to REIT. Company promoting this is Country Height. Boustead also is involving in another.

Anyone can share some information here. Thank you.

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SKY 1809
post Feb 4 2008, 06:02 PM

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Aseambankers Rates Axis REIT Buy, Target MYR2.40



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post Feb 18 2008, 10:38 AM

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Aseambankers Rates Axis REIT Buy

Is it up today ?

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SKY 1809
post Oct 31 2008, 08:50 AM

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Our export is down by 40%.

Those in the warehousing could be hit.

And warehousing business was badly hit in Year 97/98.
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post Oct 31 2008, 08:57 AM

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QUOTE(eltaria @ Oct 31 2008, 08:55 AM)
But the main buildings are rented to dhl, tnt etc with 3/5?? years contract signed. Profit for this period will be locked in already. regardless of economic slowdown.
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Can be re nego during the very bad time as in Year 97/98. They prefer good pay masters than facing bad debts.

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SKY 1809
post Jan 5 2009, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Jan 5 2009, 11:44 AM)
Offload all my axreit at RM 1.20  biggrin.gif EARN 20%
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SKY 1809
post Jan 5 2009, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Jan 5 2009, 09:21 PM)
maybe

axreit (if reached RM 1.00 again  biggrin.gif )
ytl power
amway
jtinter
bjtoto
ytl corp
ioicorp
and many more as long as the price looks attractive for me
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IOI is a goreng stock, may not suit you.

Just my 2sen.

SKY 1809
post Jan 5 2009, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Jan 5 2009, 09:27 PM)
My target price for IOI is RM 2.00 OR below  laugh.gif
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You are more conservative than your ASW/PNB, certainly they buy higher than you. biggrin.gif

Perhaps I aim for 2.20 this time.


Anyway, best of luck.
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post Apr 17 2009, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(kinwawa @ Apr 17 2009, 11:28 AM)
pana buy i buy.......hello avbody....i join u all liao la.....less goreng food for me....old liao tongue.gif
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Pana is also a goerng kaki, once a a while only. biggrin.gif

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post Apr 20 2009, 08:12 PM

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QUOTE(ts1 @ Apr 20 2009, 06:41 PM)
very the good..this counter
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SKY 1809
post May 1 2009, 12:42 PM

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Just my personal view only :-

I prfer REits over normal dividend stocks for the following reasons :-

1) better tax advantage ( under the single tax system ). Let say both pay gross dividends of 10% a year. You might get about 2% extra that was about the current FD rate, I presume.

2) REits could be trading at attractive discounts to NAV. Whereas good dividend stocks could be trading at a high premium ( for higher confidence level ).

3) less gearings for REITs

4) Reits from my personal view might have added advantages over buying a property on your own.

a) liquidity issue- you still can sell partially and get cash quickly . For A normal traditional property, it is hard to sell 1/3 of the property. And you can buy back at anytime you have the spare cash. It is a form of good saving habit.

b) the most important of all . you have the ownership per se of REIts, whereless the property that you bought belongs to bank if you get loan to buy property. For a long time, you are just renting the property from the bank.

c) Difficult to take advantage of market situation if you have a property, if you think it trading at a peak, and you believe THERE ARE TRADE CYCLES IN YOUR LIFETIME. And you could not depend on luck for the next 30 years or so.

Not comparing apple with apple actually but

REITs such as Axreit have the future.

Correct me if I am wrong.

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post Jul 21 2009, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(protonw @ Jul 21 2009, 12:05 PM)
You must be holding lots of this counter.  Anyway you represent the rest of us to go and check and thanks for the trouble. You are the angel to protect our interest as well.  Have a good trip and make sure it is worth what is paid for. LOL

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Expenses can claim back from forumers or not ?

Just to be fair to Jordy.


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post Jul 22 2009, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(Jordy @ Jul 22 2009, 09:20 AM)
Thank you for sharing. That's a good piece of information smile.gif

I like the way LaBrooy put this:

"The bankers' strong support to our refinancing took us by surprise and our unit price has greatly improved as mutual funds like Amanah Saham are snapping up our units like crazy."

But one thing is for sure, I don't like surprises. It seems that they are going to have private placements every other quarter rclxub.gif It's good if the properties are high-yielding ones.

That piece of land could add up to 1.28 sen EPU the coming year (claimed by LaBrooy). If that's the case, then the dilution effect would be effectively covered. I am really interested to know what on earth is on this land to make it produce an income of RM330k per month smile.gif
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What surprise me ( maybe I am wrong ) that there are many strong REITs supporters here.

My concern is none of you seem to be interested to attend their AGMs. Mostly prefer to the silenced minority interest.

At least, you need to show a very bit of POWER of what you know, i mean showing your concerns and not the amount of money you have invested with them.

Just ignore me. Talking senseless here.

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QUOTE(vergil90 @ Jul 22 2009, 02:06 PM)
Agree with you for this, but i have a few points here:
1. if i am the investor of the 20% sure i will invest lower than market price.
2. The 65mil deal is RPT.
3. The 65mil deal with return just a mere 5.6% will drag down the DPU (after consideration of the 20% private investment, which used to fund to purchase the 65mil)
    The EPU will be lower to 14.4 from currently 16sen, which is a negative factor with me.

If i am Axis Reit management, why don't i take advantage with current low interest environment to get a let say get a  4% loan to fund the purchase, although will raise the gearing may be up to maximum 50%, but the additional DPU sure will drive up the price more than the currently RM 1.76 NAV and issue the private placement at least at this price in the nearest term  and not dilute the earning like this way.

Just my 2 cents.
Anyway, just dispose a quarter and hold another 3 quarter hopefully like what u say the private placement will higher.
I am very satisfied with their previous track record, but now  hmm.gif
(if amanah saham or related party  is the investor of the 20%, u think u can get higher and bargain with GLC/related party for higher price? This depends how good the management are,  icon_idea.gif )
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Jordy,

Your yield computation is diff from my broker, which is about 10.9, later more. ( Rental Yield ). Dividend yield is about 11.9%. Read 2/3 of report attached.

Though an increase in units through private placement, might need to build in the incremental increase in rental incomes , in order to balance up. Gearing might fall to 27% from 37% if fully placed. Another + point.

Existing Fixed costs tend to drop if operation expands ( just an assumption made ).

Attach report in case you are interested.

RPT , is my concern also.

Regards

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SKY 1809
post Jul 23 2009, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(vergil90 @ Jul 23 2009, 05:53 PM)
The computation is simple, 1st half they distribute 8sen for dividend (which i understand is near 100% of their income, excluding RM 2million profit which is paper gain from valuation, though NAV will up a bit). So Assume whole year = 8 *2 = 16cents for current 19 properties.
The additional property add 1.28 cents next year so total 17.28 cents.
Private placement is 20% that's mean next year 120% share the dividend. 17.28censt / 120% = 14.4 cents DPU for next year.
Remember, the private placement is to purchase the 65mil and the extra 10mil is develop it further. So, the total debts still remain the same relative to NAV, but will be lower against total asset, which for me just a small +positive factor.
He he, if they can private placement at RM 1.70 and use extra to pare down debts then good for long term like what Cherroy say(short term not good coz now low interest environment)  thumbup.gif
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It is easy if you want good returns is to increase borrowing by up to 300 % let say with current low int costs. ( instead of having private placements ) Most Foreign reits do that to justify a high yield per share.

With no additional increase in share units. DPU is more. You happy , co happy ( short term ). With many new prop needed to purchase , HIGH GEARING SEEMS TO BE A GOOD OPTION.

In actual fact, the add prop would increase Dividend yield to 11.6% ( Increase by 1.6% ) that matters most ? Or not ?

I suspect the total rental incomes could drop due to some unrented out prop, which could penalise on the return of new prop, if you compute on overall basis.

Actually , What they intend to do is to drop current borrowing to 27% ( limit to max 40% ) . If they allow to make cap repayment to you instead , hence share price drops, then also DPU might be more attractive. My thinking only.

Just my opinion only.

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post Jul 24 2009, 11:06 AM

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Trading above NAV ?

Using Fair price should be better now ?
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QUOTE(Jordy @ Jul 24 2009, 11:36 AM)
The price should stabilise after ex-date. The hype is still on its dividend at the moment. And also after placement, there will be some dilution in price. That should spell some buying opportunities.
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post Jul 24 2009, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jul 24 2009, 12:27 PM)
Yeah, REITS, the turtle stocks, climbing slowly everyday. Come to think of it, it is exactly like the turtle & rabbit story. Wished I bought more turtles....  blush.gif
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The next price depression.



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post Jul 25 2009, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(Jordy @ Jul 25 2009, 10:02 AM)
It's alright, we all live to share. I agree that my previous statement was quite vague too, so it's good if I make it clear as well smile.gif

Currently we have 2 REITs working this way, but BSDREIT's model is a little different. Their land rentals fluctuate based on the performance of oil palm. That is why I do not like to touch that counter tongue.gif
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OT a bit.

I understand some time back you expressed your interest to invest in CHHB oil palm related investments.

Aren"t CHHB have some similarity with Boustead one ?

Mind to share more.

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