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TSkrazymy
post Jun 19 2019, 09:50 PM, updated 7y ago

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So I got a pair of JBL GTO609C installed at the front of my car, paired with SONY MEX-N4200BT HU and I'm now wondering what would be the best for the rear in order to have a balanced setup(clear, crisp and bassy) A pair of coaxial speaker? I don't have rear door speaker, my rear speaker is located on the board right behind the passenger seat. Any suggestion is appreciated, thanks!

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post Jun 19 2019, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(matrix88 @ Jun 19 2019, 09:55 PM)
firstly, your JBL GTO609C is original? there are many imitation goods out there
better to get amplifiers to drive them, and get a subwoofer for the rear
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It is haha. I will double check with the serial number later on.
It's the rear speaker I'm looking for sifu.. Not subwoofer haha

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post Jun 20 2019, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(magnesium @ Jun 19 2019, 10:12 PM)
No need rear speaker unless u want watching movies inside ur car.

If only for listening song, imagine u are watching concert and that singer singing in front of u not behind
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I've never tried listening it from behind. I just want the whole of my car to have a balanced yet good simple upgrade. I don't know if it's just my weird feeling, I feel like the rear of my car gonna sound weird with those stock speakers paired with the JBL at front. Will they?

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post Jun 20 2019, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(matrix88 @ Jun 19 2019, 10:43 PM)
Original JBL have deep bass yet clear and crisp high, but imitation ones sound terrible
what are you looking for from the rear speakers? is it for people sitting behind to listen to songs or you need bass? or you feel the sound staging is not good?
if you need bass, then subwoofer is needed
i suggest to get an amplifier to drive your JBLs first, so to extract the max out of them.
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Alright, which particular amp, mind suggesting a few? thanks!
TSkrazymy
post Jun 21 2019, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(scsoo @ Jun 20 2019, 02:49 PM)
Why need rear speaker unless you sitting behind all the time and not at front at driver seat? If really need just get a pair of cheap speaker for the sake of it. Normally a pair of front speaker will be enough to fill the whole car and the rear seat will still hear the music.
This been said, you need the front to play loud to fill the car. Therefore an amp would be the best solution. As for what amp? then its budget time.. go to any friendly installer to see what they have.
Just imagine a concert hall or such.. All musician and singer are all at front.. so speaker in front will do... Don't confuse yourself with Cinema with speaker at the back.. those rear speaker are for effect and such... you not watching movie in the car.. if music just the front will do... in a concert hall they don't put speaker at the back right? for those sitting at the back/rear right?
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Now I can understand you better after doing some research according ti this issue, thank you so much for enlightening me! I think I will just leave the JBL GTO609c(component)in the front and disconnect the rear factory speakers. I'm not an audiophile nor a pro, but from what I know, this pair of speaker is good at producing clear, crisp sound with just enough bass. So now I'm thinking about getting an amp to further improve the sound quality, any good and affordable recommendation? As for the subwoofer, if I were to add in one in the future, I will either place them underneath the seat or on the deck behind the rear passenger seat. Does it sound correct?
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post Jun 21 2019, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(matrix88 @ Jun 20 2019, 08:39 PM)
amp is all depending on your budget, and you only need 2 channel or you want to buy 4,5,6 channels for future upgrade.
and also depends on what type of music you like. clearity or only bass.
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But it's a component speaker I'm having in the front now I thought it's already 4 channel since the tweeter and the mid bass are seperated? I listen to basically every kind of music, but mostly hip-hop and some love song. I want the sound to be clear and crisp, with decent bass will do. I don't need an earthshake kind of bass.. I might add in the shallow depth kind of subwoofer at the rear deck of my car since it saves spaces and I could just mount it on top? For such setup, do you have any good yet affordable amp to recommend?
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post Jun 21 2019, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Jun 21 2019, 08:42 AM)
you should have post this at Fast & Furious thread. Many shifu there to help.
https://forum.lowyat.net/ICE

Me too do not recommend for rear speaker. My car originally comes with rear speaker only. i took the effort to bring the speaker to the front. If you wan to have better sound stage invest on 2 way or 3 way. You may add a sub at rear thou but need to do time alignment so that the low freq will reach your ear together with front speaker.

Unless u driving a big car and wanted to share your music to your passanger then only consider rear speaker.
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I was gonna post it there initially but then I couldn't find any category related to audio so... haha you sifus are here so why not just let me have your opinions first. I'm so afraid so hear the time-alignment word.. time-alignment=$$ and my current HU doesn't support that.....The setup you are talking about sounds just like the setup I'm after, my front speaker is a component speaker, and I'm planning to further upgrade it later on with an amp at the rear(placing it either underneath the seat or the on the rear deck, don't know which is good but I definitely don't want a big box in my trunk) So after listening to the advices from you all, now I'm in the dilemma of choosing an good yet affordable amp..

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post Jun 21 2019, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Jun 21 2019, 04:17 PM)
since you already have component then add in an amp will give u more listening headroom. If you are serious next time u can try to explore on 3 way component and install pillar speaker to improve soundstage. if u r not into those just add a amp and add an underseat sub then shd have improvement over stock component
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Exactly what I want.. Any good amp and underseat sub to recommend please?
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post Jun 21 2019, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(matrix88 @ Jun 21 2019, 05:22 PM)
whats your budget for the amp?
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Best would be under 1k. I'm not looking for some high end stuffs anyway.. Good&affordable haha

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post Jun 21 2019, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Jun 21 2019, 05:01 PM)
groundzero bro.. lol
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Is it really good? I see most of their stuffs are above 1k bro..
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post Jun 23 2019, 01:21 AM

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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Jun 22 2019, 06:58 PM)
Consider one of the top notch brand that I know bro but that might not fit ur budget
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My stereo setup shopping has come to an end today. I got myself a used ALPINE MRX F35 4 channel amplifier and a brand new Pioner TS WX120A underseat subwoofer. Are they decent enough?
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post Jun 23 2019, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(matrix88 @ Jun 23 2019, 10:22 AM)
the alpine f25 amp is good for clarity. pioneer underseat subwoofer is not co clear la, but over all it is ok.

what about your rear speakers, disconnect or how?
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Gonna disconnect that rubbish😂Do you have any idea that how much roughly is the installation gonna charge?

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post Jun 23 2019, 04:12 PM

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I know nothing about which wire to use that's the thing....
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post Jun 23 2019, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(matrix88 @ Jun 23 2019, 04:16 PM)
Firstly, where do you intend to install your amplifier? boot or under seat.

you will need power cable from car battery to your amp and also to your underseat subwoofers, the power cable will need a fuse holder for protection purposes
you will need rca cables from your head unit to your amp and subwoofer
hopefully your headunit have rca out, otherwise you will need a converter
you will also need speaker cables from amp to your speakers

best is to ask few shops, then you will get an idea of the cost involved
but installers workmanship is very important.
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I'm planning to place the amp under the front passenger seat, and the subwoofer under the driver seat. That's the thing, I heard they always overcharge a hell lot on the installation tools like brackets and stuffs...especially WIRING... Could you tell me more about cable or wires? Wanted to do some research online but I totally have no clue where to start looking for. I wanna get some decent quality wires and bring to the installation. So if anything happen, I know it's because of the installation, because I buy all those wires by myself. Thank you for being so helpful sifu.

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post Jun 26 2019, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Jun 25 2019, 04:43 PM)
let me know if u r at johor. i can recommend thumbup.gif
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I'm from Johor bro.. BTW I sold the under subwoofer which I bought rm280, doesn't look authentic at all....It's a Pioneer TS-WX120A. Any under seat subwoofer to recommend?
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post Jun 26 2019, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(scsoo @ Jun 26 2019, 10:10 AM)
Sorry for jumping in now .. about to dampen your mood... Seem like you gotten your amp and woofer.. do note some installer will not want to install things not sold thru them as they don't want to get into hassle of issue if the amp/woofer you bring have issue/problem. Some more you plan to get the rest of the stuff yourself (wires and such) and that will bring another set of issue as anything not sold thru them will be at your own risk and some installer not willing to proceed just labour alone and bear the equipment risk. Not to mention that they already lose profit from equipment sale and need to bear risk of equipment failure whether accidental or such.
As being expensive, depends on the installer.. some have high end equipment and their installation price reflect the equipment at their workshop. You see Sine Slope machine and such there but not all willing to invest in those...
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Not a problem bro, you've been really helpful. Installation problem has solved, decided to go to a shop which recommended by my friend, claims that the shop offers good workmanship at reasonable price. Now I'm in need of a under seat subwoofer and a poor man DSP to fine tune my equipment..
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post Jun 27 2019, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Jun 27 2019, 08:43 AM)
great bro.. look for ricky at famous audio impian emas. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Famous-Audio...204246559607157

If u r at JB. Look for the fb page for their work. He is good in tuning. U can forget about your shopping and you can go consult him. But u need to be patience with his work.
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Looks like a good one! Thanks, but how's the price charging?

 

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