
11street is now PrestoMall
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PrestoMall, previously known as 11street Malaysia, is Malaysia’s largest homegrown online marketplace, is now part of Presto – a unique social marketing platform that offers great rewards. PrestoMall is operated by Presto Mall Sdn. Bhd. (formerly known as Celcom Planet Sdn. Bhd.).
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even the name 11street was a bad choice. So difficult to say it.
take Lazada or Shoppee for example, very easy to say and sing about. |
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Im waiting for new promotion! **hold breath**
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Jun 18 2019, 12:32 PM) even the name 11street was a bad choice. So difficult to say it. http://www.11st.co.kr/html/main.htmltake Lazada or Shoppee for example, very easy to say and sing about. 11street actually collab between celcom malaysia and korean company. u see the user interface is the same after gemfive bungkus, lazada and shopee become popular, 11street malaysia rugi besar so need to cut tie with the partner korean company |
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now wait big promo
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The name went from bad to worse.
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QUOTE(evilsmile @ Jun 18 2019, 12:36 PM) http://www.11st.co.kr/html/main.html Didnt know about gem5. But I like Lazada I feel like it is a very well-run company. As a consumer, I have no qualms about them.11street actually collab between celcom malaysia and korean company. u see the user interface is the same after gemfive bungkus, lazada and shopee become popular, 11street malaysia rugi besar so need to cut tie with the partner korean company |
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In the end bungkus like 11STREET
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They better have some real good discount coupons.
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A better name to bungkus than 11street
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QUOTE(Baconateer @ Jun 18 2019, 12:31 PM) PrestoMall, previously known as 11street Malaysia, is Malaysia’s largest homegrown online marketplace, is now part of Presto – a unique social marketing platform that offers great rewards. PrestoMall is operated by Presto Mall Sdn. Bhd. (formerly known as Celcom Planet Sdn. Bhd.). QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Jun 18 2019, 12:32 PM) even the name 11street was a bad choice. So difficult to say it. take Lazada or Shoppee for example, very easy to say and sing about. QUOTE(evilsmile @ Jun 18 2019, 12:36 PM) http://www.11st.co.kr/html/main.html so SK telecom cabut oledi?11street actually collab between celcom malaysia and korean company. u see the user interface is the same after gemfive bungkus, lazada and shopee become popular, 11street malaysia rugi besar so need to cut tie with the partner korean company how about PUC that nvested up to RM40 million for a 12.348% stake in 11street last year? owaiii Axiata digital sold 11street to sinkie Pegasus 7 Ventures Pte Ltd. ![]() QUOTE TOWARDS the end of April, Axiata Digital Services Sdn Bhd announced its plan to transfer five digital assets, including its entire stake in Celcom Planet Sdn Bhd — the operator of e-commerce platform 11street — to Singapore investment fund, Pegasus 7 Ventures Pte Ltd. But the sale of these stakes at a total valuation of US$140 million (about RM580 million) has raised eyebrows in the investing fraternity. More specifically, it has sparked a debate over whether the sale would indirectly impact PUC Bhd, which has a stake of about 12% in loss-making 11street. 11street’s accumulated losses stood at RM390.92 million as at Dec 31, 2017. Advertisement  Certain quarters point out that external auditors may require PUC to mark its investment value in 11street to market value, if the latest valuation of the online marketplace is lower than the cost of investment for PUC. PUC invested up to RM40 million for a 12.348% stake in 11street last year. The deal implied a RM323.94 million valuation for 11street. “If 11street’s most recent valuation is lower than that (RM323.94 million), PUC might have to do a revision to correspond to the latest market price,” a partner in an accounting firm tells The Edge. It is worth noting that under the MFRS 9 (Malaysian Financial Reporting Standard 9), all investments are required to be carried at fair value. “Since PUC only holds a 12% stake in 11street, it is neither its subsidiary nor associate. Instead, it is just a simple investment and, therefore, required to be marked-to-market,” he says. He adds that the latest transaction by Axiata Digital is a good indication of 11street’s valuation because it is a non-listed entity. The value can be used to assess whether any impairment or increase in fair value is required. However, the partner in the accounting firm acknowledges that this is only one indication. “PUC can always get another external valuer to value its investment using a different basis of valuation, which may give very different results. It’s all very subjective,” he says. An audit expert concurs. “According to the standards, the auditors need to check for indications of impairment every year. If they are not convinced of the viability of 11street, they may require PUC to impair its investment,” she says. According to International Accounting Standard 36.12, indications of impairment include a decline in market value, negative changes in technology, markets, economy or laws, as well as if the carrying amount is higher than the carrying amount of the investee’s assets. “Usually, auditors will ask to look at the business plan, projections and, most importantly, the cash flow of 11street,” she explains. PUC: Valued at fair value When contacted by The Edge, PUC says based on its understanding of the Malaysian accounting standards, its investment in 11street has to be valued at fair value. “By fair value, it means that we also need to assess the recoverability of our investment. We have done such assessment and the results are satisfactory for inclusion in the FY2018 audited financial statements,” says PUC. 11street’s latest valuation is not publicly known, as Axiata Digital — the digital services arm of Axiata Group Bhd — has declined to divulge its individual asset valuations. “We will not be commenting on the individual asset sale price as some of the digital assets are undergoing fundraising exercises. As a minority shareholder in these assets, we do not want to prejudice the ongoing discussions that these companies are having with prospective investors,” Axiata Digital says when contacted by The Edge. Axiata Digital is transferring its stakes in five digital assets — StoreKing, BIMA, FreedomPop, etobee and 11street — to Pegasus 7, which will be effectively managed by its fund manager, Gordian Capital. Following the completion of the transfer, Axiata Digital would in return subscribe for 100% redeemable convertible preference shares (RCPS) in Pegasus 7. “We have sold our entire interest in 11street to Pegasus 7. Although we would be the sole owner of RCPS in Pegasus 7, we do not have any control in [its] investment management decisions,” says Axiata Digital. It adds that 11street is a non-strategic digital asset, and hence, was carved out and sold to Pegasus 7, an independent, qualified fund team focused on driving value creation and managing the monetisation of the investment. Axiata Digital: No price establishment yet When asked about the price associated with 11street and PUC’s mark-to-market, Axiata Digital CEO Mohd Khairil Abdullah says at the time of the RCPS transfer into Pegasus 7, there was no price established for 11street as a whole. “Due to that, there wasn’t a need for PUC to do a mark-to-market at that point in time during the transfer. That said, we are not in the position to comment on how PUC will account for those investments,” he says in a brief conversation. An accounting expert has a similar view. “When there is a basket of goods, you as the seller would say item A is priced at RM1, item B is priced at RM2, item C is priced at RM3 and thus, the total is RM6. But the buyer might have a different view. They would do their own analysis to value these three companies differently. In the end, you don’t quite know what the exact valuation is for each item,” he says. “Unless there is a transfer of asset that establishes the price at [an] individual level, there is no change. Either up or down, I don’t think the Axiata Digital-Pegasus 7 deal would force PUC to do a mark-to-market, at least not for now,” he adds. 11street still in the red Celcom Planet, the operator of 11street, suffered from losses between 2015 and 2017. A check on the Companies Commission of Malaysia’s (SSM) website shows that Celcom Planet’s loss after tax widened from RM103.22 million in 2015 to RM161.49 million in 2016, before narrowing to RM128.73 million in 2017. Revenue, however, increased 31% year on year to RM30.36 million in 2017. PUC attributed Celcom Planet’s financial losses to the high expenses incurred in digital marketing and manpower. “After gaining management control [of Celcom Planet], we have launched a few initiatives, such as the streamlining of its product categories, enhancement of our mobile application and introduction of new features to the platform such as integrating e-wallets as one of the payment methods in order to provide a better user experience,” it says. Because of cost optimisation, the losses have been significantly reduced. “Ultimately, we are looking at the most cost-effective way to provide the best environment to cultivate user stickiness and concurrently expand user database as well as top-line growth. We are hoping that the platform will be profitable once all the new initiatives have materialised,” says PUC. Previously, SK Planet Global Holdings Pte Ltd was the single largest shareholder of Celcom Planet with a 44.7% stake, followed by Axiata Digital with 42.95% equity interest. PUC Ventures Sdn Bhd, the wholly-owned subsidiary of PUC, had an 11.11% stake in Celcom Planet while RedHot Media International Ltd — the parent company of PUC — held the remaining 1.23%. Following a series of shareholding restructuring (see chart), RedHot Media now directly controls 88% equity interest in Celcom Planet while PUC Ventures holds the remaining 12%. Meanwhile, Axiata Digital will own all the RCPS in Pegasus 7, which will control 78% of the RCPS in Celcom Planet. The rest of the RCPS is held by RedHot Media sos kicap |
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Wtfish
Bad management result every time in Axiata. What's wrong with this company. |
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About time we have a proper local platform like Tokopedia
Lazada and Shopee is filled with China sellers. Many aunties actually got scammer on Lazada. |
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No wonder puc share is like shet.. invest all this money losing crap
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ya... another one
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11street partnership ended already?
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So all the old seller money that they never got previously how ah?
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Jun 18 2019, 12:43 PM) Didnt know about gem5. But I like Lazada I feel like it is a very well-run company. As a consumer, I have no qualms about them. Gemfive was the OG site for large value discountsDunno how many times I got RM200 discount for RM2000 phones. Saved a lot of handphones back then ![]() |
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two tricks in online shopping
give a lot of discount give free shipping 11 street didn't give both go dai 11 street |
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nowadays survey price go lapsapda and shopee only, almost forgotten 11shit
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QUOTE(internaldisputes @ Jun 18 2019, 12:38 PM) Oklah at least better than 11street.Imagine friend ask where you buy. Lazada, shopee, presto all short syllables. 11street so annoying to say and you can't shorten it. Mcdonalds people can shorten to McD these days. This post has been edited by whyamiblack: Jun 18 2019, 02:09 PM |
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Presto! is also an Amazon in-house brand
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If prestomall don't give freebies vouchers, will lingkup also
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Now PUC is the owner?or pegasus?
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QUOTE(DValentine @ Jun 18 2019, 12:55 PM) so SK telecom cabut oledi? how about PUC that nvested up to RM40 million for a 12.348% stake in 11street last year? owaiii Axiata digital sold 11street to sinkie Pegasus 7 Ventures Pte Ltd. ![]() sos kicap QUOTE(gogocan @ Jun 18 2019, 05:27 PM) too long above pls read |
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Presto lmao
They can't even get their e wallet right. |
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Jun 18 2019, 12:43 PM) Didnt know about gem5. But I like Lazada I feel like it is a very well-run company. As a consumer, I have no qualms about them. Gem5 used to be the best marketplace for consumers, especially electronic shits. No other place can give u RM250 discounts for 1k+ purchase. That's why they close down electronics/gadgets section soonafter |
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QUOTE(chubbyqq @ Jun 18 2019, 05:46 PM) Gem5 used to be the best marketplace for consumers, especially electronic shits. No other place can give u RM250 discounts for 1k+ purchase. That's why they close down electronics/gadgets section soonafter doesnt sound sustainable. they were probably bleeding like hell each month trying to increase their market share. Now they are nothing and Lazada is king |
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QUOTE(chubbyqq @ Jun 18 2019, 05:46 PM) Gem5 used to be the best marketplace for consumers, especially electronic shits. No other place can give u RM250 discounts for 1k+ purchase. That's why they close down electronics/gadgets section soonafter QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Jun 18 2019, 05:48 PM) doesnt sound sustainable. they were probably bleeding like hell each month trying to increase their market share. kek gem5 throw price like no otherNow they are nothing and Lazada is king last last kolos ![]() |
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QUOTE(DValentine @ Jun 18 2019, 05:49 PM) they got 5m from their investors right? probably used that to give rebates to customers without much thought to make their business susatianablegrab did this at first, then they started taking away free coupons. now they are still at the stop |
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ditch the ‘mall’
just ‘presto’ snappier |
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Don’t care call what, give big discount can already
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At first i was thought that was nickname for ghost mall
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shud use easy to spell name la
like balala babiu bololo |
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still a weird branding
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Say what you like, it's only place ever give me speed delivery.
I ordered phone from KL seller within 23 hours I received it in Penang. Lazada and Shoppee usually takes days or even weeks for KL seller to sent and received by me in Penang. |
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No discount?
gg.com.my |
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QUOTE(KopiChia @ Jun 18 2019, 06:15 PM) Say what you like, it's only place ever give me speed delivery. it probably just based on the seller , if u buy from the same seller in lazada etc it should be the same resultI ordered phone from KL seller within 23 hours I received it in Penang. Lazada and Shoppee usually takes days or even weeks for KL seller to sent and received by me in Penang. |
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i got no brand loyalty
who gip better deal i buy from them |
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QUOTE(cytyler @ Jun 18 2019, 06:24 PM) it probably just based on the seller , if u buy from the same seller in lazada etc it should be the same result In 2 years I buy Lazada / Shopee I never seen anything like this. However 1 small problem with 11street is orders history more than 1 year can't be shown. So I no longer knows who I bought from I might be willing to buy from them in future. |
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QUOTE(KopiChia @ Jun 18 2019, 06:28 PM) In 2 years I buy Lazada / Shopee I never seen anything like this. However 1 small problem with 11street is orders history more than 1 year can't be shown. So I no longer knows who I bought from I might be willing to buy from them in future. I can see order history more that 1 year, on pc |
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QUOTE(evilsmile @ Jun 18 2019, 12:36 PM) http://www.11st.co.kr/html/main.html u see lah who owned gemfive11street actually collab between celcom malaysia and korean company. u see the user interface is the same after gemfive bungkus, lazada and shopee become popular, 11street malaysia rugi besar so need to cut tie with the partner korean company last time they take over Autoworld also last last kana sold to jobstreet |
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QUOTE(Sycamore @ Jun 18 2019, 12:56 PM) ini axiata/telekom same mindsetsee how they handle their customers also sudah tau stupid Celcom Life app kenot function properly. cant even register properly. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?....mycelcom&hl=en Update : So it took 6 months to respond to my feedback below...and still, the same problem persist. Forget it...not worth my time. This app cannot work..can't even get a simple OTP to register. I have been trying many times. I've even uninstalled & reinstalled a number of times. Useless. Don't roll out the app if you haven't tested it properly, Celcom. fking telco cant even create a proper apps. I have no problem with maxis, digi, even xox apps. even paying bills also can be problematic. other telco pay via jompay can see instant result. but celcom? good luck. |
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All salahan Korean company no hire kpop do dancing to promote the apps
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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Jun 18 2019, 05:51 PM) they got 5m from their investors right? probably used that to give rebates to customers without much thought to make their business susatianable ah sean punya lead. that 5m most probably come from hlbgrab did this at first, then they started taking away free coupons. now they are still at the stop grab still number 1 right now since they killed uber and other players dont have much $$$$$ to throw free coupons |
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QUOTE(KopiChia @ Jun 18 2019, 06:15 PM) Say what you like, it's only place ever give me speed delivery. using what courier?I ordered phone from KL seller within 23 hours I received it in Penang. Lazada and Shoppee usually takes days or even weeks for KL seller to sent and received by me in Penang. i order from lazada, some of them offer same day delivery option, most of the time order in the morning by evening rider come send other than that they use poslaju 1 day sampai juga |
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They occupying 11th floor at Menara Allianz Sentral.
Gonna shift office? |
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 18 2019, 07:10 PM) using what courier? Bro where you stay? KL? Selangor? I am in Penang most couriers never made it within even 2 days let alone single day. Hell some like pos laju even penang seller goods sent outstation before return back to Penang (Wtf) for delivery.i order from lazada, some of them offer same day delivery option, most of the time order in the morning by evening rider come send other than that they use poslaju 1 day sampai juga |
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QUOTE(KopiChia @ Jun 18 2019, 07:18 PM) Bro where you stay? KL? Selangor? I am in Penang most couriers never made it within even 2 days let alone single day. Hell some like pos laju even penang seller goods sent outstation before return back to Penang (Wtf) for delivery. klang valley juga duduki frequently send parcels to kedah, johor using poslaju most of the time take only 1 day to arrived maybe they used submarine to send poslaju stuff to penang LOL!~ ![]() |
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Korean didn't know how to manage a business in Malaysia
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 18 2019, 07:20 PM) klang valley juga duduk The one day delivery is GDex. Same courier took more than a week deliver Lazada shit. I am telling you right now I order many times I never ever receive anything within 24hours except for that one time frm 11street.i frequently send parcels to kedah, johor using poslaju most of the time take only 1 day to arrived maybe they used submarine to send poslaju stuff to penang LOL!~ ![]() |
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QUOTE(KopiChia @ Jun 18 2019, 07:24 PM) The one day delivery is GDex. Same courier took more than a week deliver Lazada shit. I am telling you right now I order many times I never ever receive anything within 24hours except for that one time frm 11street. have u make official complain?https://efeedback.pos.com.my/ care@pos.com.my I did once last year, send the good to sarawak end up the stuff stucked at post office for 2 weeks. so far the response from poslaju was adequate |
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QUOTE(KopiChia @ Jun 18 2019, 07:24 PM) The one day delivery is GDex. Same courier took more than a week deliver Lazada shit. I am telling you right now I order many times I never ever receive anything within 24hours except for that one time frm 11street. QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 18 2019, 07:27 PM) have u make official complain? wtf https://efeedback.pos.com.my/ care@pos.com.my I did once last year, send the good to sarawak end up the stuff stucked at post office for 2 weeks. so far the response from poslaju was adequate if dont receive just check with ur nearby courier branch kasi whack kaw kaw la |
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jun 18 2019, 07:27 PM) have u make official complain? Last time lazada themselves also like dat. Overseas sent to Malaysia arrived at warehouse they never even made delivery. After stuck at warehouse 10 days I had to phone scold them suddenly received within 48hours. Couriers are unreliable same with sellers some took 3 days before sent out then courier at least 2 days. That's nearly a week before I receive package.https://efeedback.pos.com.my/ care@pos.com.my I did once last year, send the good to sarawak end up the stuff stucked at post office for 2 weeks. so far the response from poslaju was adequate |
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QUOTE(darosha @ Jun 18 2019, 05:53 PM) Presto is another app that integrate PrestoPay, PrestoMall, etc.https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?...uc.presto&hl=en |
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Hi all , would like to ask do you guys face any issue using Prestomall app on Digi mobile data?
I keep encounter the attach error when open the app on my iOS (app version 6.1.4) using mobile data but no issue when connecting to Wifi. I had tried google search using my mobile data at the same time no issue. Checked with the support team in Facebook, and they ask to check is it just Digi and other telco while I'm just having Digi here, appreciate anyone using Maxis / Celcom can help to verify ![]() |
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Seems like nothing much in Presto though. Not very user friendly
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