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bolipo P
post Jan 17 2020, 07:21 PM

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Hi everyone,

I changed my 175/65r14 XM2 tyres to XM2+

I realize that they are doing a strange noise, seems like they are sticking to the road. Some guys said me that new tyres do it, but I have done 150KM now and they keep doing the same noise.

Did this happen to anyone else?
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post Jan 17 2020, 08:06 PM

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QUOTE(DanialTan1990 @ Jan 14 2020, 03:44 PM)
Some said Oscar service is poor.
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Nothing is more true than this. Just changed 4x pilot sport 4 205/50R16 @ RM336 excluding the rubber valves.

Things they "sold" to me
1. Your rims are dented, we can fix it
2. Your alignment is out & we couldn't fix it without a special "screw"

I refused both, & they didn't do a good alignment ( I could read from the monitor)

Conclusion: just buy the tires from them & do the fixing etc at the workshop you trust.
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post Jan 17 2020, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(JojoBubu @ Jan 17 2020, 08:06 PM)
Nothing is more true than this. Just changed 4x pilot sport 4  205/50R16 @ RM336 excluding the rubber valves.

Things they "sold" to me
1. Your rims are dented, we can fix it
2. Your alignment is out & we couldn't fix it without a special "screw"

I refused both, & they didn't do a good alignment ( I could  read from the monitor)

Conclusion: just buy the tires from them & do the fixing  etc at  the workshop you trust.
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Their price is just too competitive compare to other.

Do other shop accept installation without buying their tyre?
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post Jan 19 2020, 02:10 AM

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QUOTE(bolipo @ Jan 17 2020, 07:21 PM)
Hi everyone,

I changed my 175/65r14 XM2 tyres to XM2+

I realize that they are doing a strange noise, seems like they are sticking to the road. Some guys said me that new tyres do it, but I have done 150KM now and they keep doing the same noise.

Did this happen to anyone else?
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Does it sound as if your tyre have a layer of glue and when moving making some weird sticky/mushy like noise? My current Primacy3ST have the same ’sticky noise’ and it’s where the same silica compound xm2+ get from. I believe it is for noise deadening as my previous set with PS3 does not have this effect and make much more road noise.
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post Jan 19 2020, 06:00 AM

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QUOTE(boysrule @ Jan 19 2020, 02:10 AM)
Does it sound as if your tyre have a layer of glue and when moving making some weird sticky/mushy like noise? My current Primacy3ST have the same ’sticky noise’ and it’s where the same silica compound xm2+ get from. I believe it is for noise deadening as my previous set with PS3 does not have this effect and make much more road noise.
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Yep, exactly.

So that sound never goes away? It bothers a lot in the city with the window down.
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post Jan 19 2020, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(bolipo @ Jan 19 2020, 06:00 AM)
Yep, exactly.

So that sound never goes away? It bothers a lot in the city with the window down.
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It doesn’t but well think positively, that small noise over there helped you reduced a lot of dreadful road noise. I’m okay with it😄

Thanks for mentioning about the ‘noise’, now we can confirm indeed xm2+ have been upgraded with the silica compound from its primacy siblings. Hope it means better nvh + wet grip. I’m gonna change it to my other car soon.
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post Jan 19 2020, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(bolipo @ Jan 19 2020, 06:00 AM)
Yep, exactly.

So that sound never goes away? It bothers a lot in the city with the window down.
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Never drove the car with window down. But XM2+ in my car is so quiet at 80km/h until I hearing my front absorber working psst psst psst especially driving on those bumpy Putrajaya > Puchong route.
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post Jan 20 2020, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(boysrule @ Jan 19 2020, 10:30 AM)
It doesn’t but well think positively, that small noise over there helped you reduced a lot of dreadful road noise. I’m okay with it😄

Thanks for mentioning about the ‘noise’, now we can confirm indeed xm2+ have been upgraded with the silica compound from its primacy siblings. Hope it means better nvh + wet grip. I’m gonna change it to my other car soon.
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About it you are right lol
I had xm2 in my car and changed to xm2+. The xm2+ is so much quieter.

I realize that the noise was louder in the first km, now with 300km is more quiet. I can heard yet, but is very low now.

QUOTE(voscar @ Jan 19 2020, 08:47 PM)
Never drove the car with window down. But XM2+ in my car is so quiet at 80km/h until I hearing my front absorber working psst psst psst especially driving on those bumpy Putrajaya > Puchong route.
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Yes, xm2+ is very silent, I'm impressed.
Macam Yes
post Jan 31 2020, 12:20 PM

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Just changed it at cheras
205/55/R16 RM290
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post Feb 7 2020, 02:05 PM

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FAMILIAR TREAD PATTERN FOR XM2+ hmm.gif
Paying TRIBUTE TO MICHELIN CERTIS perhaps?

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post Feb 7 2020, 02:47 PM

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Seen XM2+ in flesh. Totally different design compared to Certis.
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post Feb 8 2020, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(imgaylord @ Nov 15 2019, 12:08 AM)
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Please share the shop name and location. Tq


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post Feb 10 2020, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(Macam Yes @ Jan 31 2020, 12:20 PM)
Just changed it at cheras
205/55/R16 RM290
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do you know the price fo 15 inch ?
or you able to provide the contact/address of the shop?
misaka
post Feb 10 2020, 07:54 PM

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xm2+ how much now? size 185 55 r15
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post Feb 11 2020, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(Desmune97 @ Feb 10 2020, 09:42 AM)
do you know the price fo 15 inch ?
or you able to provide the contact/address of the shop?
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depend size.
if 195 55 15 usually sellling around rm 190+-
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post Feb 15 2020, 08:42 PM

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I have changed to xm2 + after using xm2 for almost 4 years and 80k km. Using 185/65 R15 standard size although been recommended to change to 195/55. But i prefer every thing at stock and standard. There are probably about 2 - 3 mm left at the TWI but there are chipping here and there and i think its time to change.

Cost RM180 per donut after nego from RM185. Free balancing and alignment and steel valves at TMK Rawang. Took Thailand made (week 45/19) rather than China although China ones were newer by a few weeks. China made got yellow and green lines on the thread which i was told would disappear after a few km of driving.

Looks very similar to xm2 except for a + on the side wall. Very silent and hopefully can last at least another 80k km.
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post Feb 15 2020, 10:57 PM

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I recently changed 185/55 R16 wheel from my local car workshop at RM270 including everything.

Old stock Conti Premium Contact was chipping away so dont feel good using it.

Is that the normal price since the price is on the less common size?

Had previous experience in XM2+ and XM2 at smaller wheel size. So roughly know what to expect.

This post has been edited by minizian: Feb 15 2020, 11:00 PM
Macam Yes
post Feb 17 2020, 02:29 PM

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XM2+ are excellent. Soundless at top speed
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post Feb 17 2020, 06:24 PM

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QUOTE(Macam Yes @ Feb 17 2020, 02:29 PM)
XM2+ are excellent. Soundless at top speed
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How fast your top speed? For me currently 110 is quiet, hope to keep it like this..
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post Feb 18 2020, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Feb 17 2020, 06:24 PM)
How fast your top speed? For me currently 110 is quiet, hope to keep it like this..
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but doesn't perform so well when taking fast corners

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