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post Jun 11 2019, 03:49 PM, updated 2 months ago

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Toyota has escalated itself to be perhaps somewhat a car tech companies and investment holding co. and let other fellow Japanese brands which it has JV or stake to do all its low cost (read : profit) or low volume (in subaru's case) bidding

So far here is the report cards:

1. Mazda in USA
https://www.carlist.my/news/2020-usdm-toyot...ebadged-mazda-2


2. Subaru

https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/futur...venture-report/

3. Suzuki in India

https://www.carlist.my/news/suzuki-baleno-b...ybrid-12l/56220

And let them fight among themselves???!!!

Little fingers this one, Toyota. Chaos is a ladder.

On the side note (also has affairs elsewhere:): Supra developed with BMW !!!! And with PSA previously in Europe for Europe only entry level car model)

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post Jun 11 2019, 04:11 PM

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The recent EV plan announced by Toyota also has highlighted more JV with Subaru and Daihatsu

Carlist reported the below:

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Batteries, motors, and power control units are considered by Toyota as a core technology for BEVs and in typical Toyota culture, it considers mastering core technologies (rather than relying totally on a third-party supplier) to be very important, even if developing these in-house will take a longer time and requires more investment.

Mobility as a service (MaaS) is also another avenue business opportunity. The recent tie-ups with Grab and Uber are the more visible ones; Terashi said that Toyota is in talks with more than 40 different companies but the time is not right to reveal further details in these plans yet.

In short, what Toyota is saying is that it is not possible to make money from selling BEVs (hint to Tesla’s investors). A total rethink of the business model is necessary, and doing so requires extensive collaboration with many parties.


So fingers poking deeper?!
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post Jun 12 2019, 03:47 PM

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https://www.motor1.com/news/354247/toyota-m...le-world-brand/

And gets crowned the most valuable car brands for the umpteenth years
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post Sep 29 2019, 11:59 AM

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https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2019/09/2...o-raise-stakes/

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Toyota Motor Corp. will raise its stake in Subaru Corp. to 20 percent from around 17 percent, the two Japanese automakers said Friday as they leverage their scale to better compete in developing new technologies.

The investment comes a month after Toyota and another smaller Japanese automaker, Suzuki Motor Corp., said they would take small equity stakes in one another. Such tie-ups highlight how automakers are scrambling to chase scale, manage costs and boost development...

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post Sep 29 2019, 12:04 PM

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.....From Toyota’s side, this is familiar territory given its history of collaborations with other Japanese brands such as Subaru, Daihatsu and Mazda. “Part by part, region by region, country by country, segment by segment, we are having good synergies with some of these Japanese brands,” so said Masakazu Yoshimura, MD of Toyota Kirloskar Motor

https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/specia...cle29527626.ece


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post Sep 29 2019, 02:28 PM

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In the end just make people movers. The time of making spiritual successor cars are over for Toyota. Unless their sales are so dented from consumer distrust (That won't happen easily), then they will revisit the older models.

Till then the GT86 is NOT an AE86 and the Z4 is not a Supra.
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post Sep 29 2019, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Sep 29 2019, 02:28 PM)
In the end just make people movers. The time of making spiritual successor cars are over for Toyota. Unless their sales are so dented from consumer distrust (That won't happen easily), then they will revisit the older models.

Till then the GT86 is NOT an AE86 and the Z4 is not a Supra.
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post Oct 1 2019, 10:28 AM

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And Toyota Supra is recall by BMW

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/toyota-s...ll-bmw-seatbelt

 

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