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 ehh, Even CPUs need hotfix, what! a hotfix for intel processor? LOL

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ikanayam
post Jun 26 2007, 11:49 PM

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Hahahahahaha. The inq must be new to the internets. Microcode updates are not uncommon at all. Most of the time they are included in BIOS updates. If you're going zomg wtf is this then you must have never updated your bios, or not read the release notes, or they were not mentioned. I know for sure that many ABIT BIOS release notes mention microcode updates. Big deal.
ikanayam
post Jun 27 2007, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(dopodplaya @ Jun 26 2007, 10:09 PM)
Microcode updating is not really new, not just Intel have this problem. AMD K6 series and older Pentium III/4 have the same problem. Newer K7/K8 doesn't inherit this problem.

So update is your best choice if you are using Windows.
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The K7 and K8 also have microcode update mechanisms, and they have had microcode updates IIRC. There was even a big deal in some circles a few years ago because some ppl managed to crack the K7 microcode update mechanism.

edit: Apparently i did remember correctly. Scroll down to bios update V1.4, point 2.
http://www.uabit.com/index.php?option=com_...atal1ty+AN9+32X

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ikanayam
post Jun 27 2007, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(dopodplaya @ Jun 26 2007, 10:38 PM)
Yup, many motherboard update includes microcode update but in this case it is an update relating to Windows operating system specifically.
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Makes no difference whether it is updated via windows or the BIOS. End result is the same.
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post Jun 27 2007, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(dopodplaya @ Jun 26 2007, 10:42 PM)
Yup, but affecting Windows only? Humm, that's kinda funny. It is not the CPU problem that's bother me, it's Windows unreadiness to adapt future hardware.

I don't like to bash Windows, because I am using it and proud of it, just a small funny story like this tickles.
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If it requires a microcode update, it's not microsoft's problem, it means the problem is in the chip. It probably happens that microsoft stumbled upon the problem, some instruction or combination of instructions they use trigger the problem. I'm sure more people run windows update than update their bios, so the best bet is to just fix it there.
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post Jun 27 2007, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(probiotix @ Jun 26 2007, 11:13 PM)
so do we have to update windows with this patch every time we format or is it just a one time process? Dunno whether same like 'flashing'.
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If you fix it via a windows patch, then it works by loading the updated microcode every time windows starts up. So you will have to update windows with this patch again if you format. But if it is really that important, i expect that we will be seeing BIOS updates soon with the microcode update. In this case the BIOS loads it every time the computer boots, it is OS independent which is a good thing.
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post Jun 28 2007, 12:48 PM

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Intel documents such errata, if you know where to look smile.gif
http://download.intel.com/design/processor...dt/31327914.pdf
i believe page 58 describes this particular problem.

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In rare instances, improper TLB invalidation may result in unpredictable
system behavior, such as system hangs or incorrect data. Developers of operating systems should take this documentation into account when
designing TLB invalidation algorithms. For the processors affected, Intel has provided a recommended update to system and BIOS vendors to incorporate into their BIOS to resolve this issue.

ikanayam
post Jun 29 2007, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(Auraguy @ Jun 29 2007, 08:45 AM)
here another article of it blink.gif
by the way, could any1 upload to another website so i could update also? Because i using pirated win XP PRO?
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Haha, first you quote an article without mentioning the source, then you want help with your piracy? Go away.
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post Jul 6 2007, 11:07 AM

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If you are asking, then no.

 

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