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 F30 LCI 318i, Running cost, parts pricing etc

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post Jan 20 2020, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(budang @ Jan 20 2020, 05:39 PM)
When I bought my F30 there wasn't any pre-reg G20 available, only new CBU units, and it's out of my budget tongue.gif
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oh new CBU at the time eh? They are the no 1-year old CBU that I just bought I guess. the mileage is at 8k not yet service I think, it will be my first service as well hopefully at Ara Dam
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post Jan 20 2020, 08:22 PM

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QUOTE(budang @ Jan 20 2020, 01:14 AM)
Just sent my car for servicing @ Auto Bavaria Ara Damansara last Saturday, thought I'd share the experience.

It's her second service but it's my first time sending her in. I whatsapp-ed my SA to arrange for a Service appointment and got a slot on 18th January 2020 8:30am. Arrived @ 8:39am and immediately checked in, 5 mins later a representative greeted me and explained to me about the servicing required and promised my car will be ready by 11am.

Head over to the breakfast area and have my breakfast. Free flow of coffees, tea, milos, nasi lemak and pastries. The service centre is huge and brand new. It's the largest BMW facility in South East Asia, full-fledged 4S centre spanning over 23,000 square metres, quite an impressive building.

Representative came back to me at 10:45am mentioning service is done and he'll send the car for carwash & vacuum. Collected my car at 11:25am, not the best car wash I've had but considering it's only a week away from CNY and everyone is rushing to get their car serviced, it's quite impressive I manage to drive home in less than 3 hours.

All is free, never paid a single penny. 4 years of free service remaining. Hope all will be good!
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post Jan 20 2020, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(jasonlim @ Jan 20 2020, 08:22 PM)
So near my place
Next time ajak yumcha
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post Jan 22 2020, 09:04 AM

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post Jan 22 2020, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(budang @ Jan 22 2020, 09:04 AM)
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Wow >20km/l is super good. At what speed?

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QUOTE(drummerboy @ Jan 22 2020, 09:53 AM)
Wow >20km/l is super good. At what speed?
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I was hypermiling at 70-100km/h
But the onboard FC reading is on the optimistic side. I'd say in actual it's about 22 - 22.5km/l
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post Jan 22 2020, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(budang @ Jan 22 2020, 10:04 AM)
I was hypermiling at 70-100km/h
But the onboard FC reading is on the optimistic side. I'd say in actual it's about 22 - 22.5km/l
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At that rate, it outperforms a skyactiv engine rclxms.gif
Is yours a 318i?

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post Jan 24 2020, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(drummerboy @ Jan 22 2020, 03:45 PM)
At that rate, it outperforms a skyactiv engine  rclxms.gif
Is yours a 318i?
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Actually a lot of cars also can do it, is just about the driver discipline on the feet/throttle movement.
If you can always control the RPM range below 2k, you can get wonders in your mileage range. brows.gif

That why i prefer 320D rides as you can get max torque around 1.7~1.8k rpm and cruise easily with great mileage for a full tank. icon_idea.gif
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post Jan 26 2020, 01:26 AM

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Let's say someone buys a 330i G20 with B48 engine, and another buys a 320i G20 with the same B48 engine but detuned a little

Both drivers have the same driving characteristics, and drove very similarly in a closed track as an experiment; would the two cars burn the same/similar amount of fuel?
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post Jan 26 2020, 10:03 AM

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The 330i would burn marginally more.
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post Feb 17 2020, 02:57 PM

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Hey guys, looking for opinion. Comparing 318i vs 320i both F30, which one would be easier to maintain in a long run? I was thinking since 318i is a 1.5 3 pot engine which is only used on 318i, would it make 320i easier to source for parts since the engine has been around longer?
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post Feb 17 2020, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(drummerboy @ Feb 17 2020, 02:57 PM)
Hey guys, looking for opinion. Comparing 318i vs 320i both F30, which one would be easier to maintain in a long run? I was thinking since 318i is a 1.5 3 pot engine which is only used on 318i, would it make 320i easier to source for parts since the engine has been around longer?
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B38 3 pot not only in 318i. 218i, 118i and mini cooper range using it too.
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QUOTE(budang @ Feb 17 2020, 03:19 PM)
B38 3 pot not only in 318i. 218i, 118i and mini cooper range using it too.
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Only the newer models use it right? The 3pot is considered quite new in Malaysia
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post Feb 17 2020, 08:33 PM

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QUOTE(drummerboy @ Feb 17 2020, 02:57 PM)
Hey guys, looking for opinion. Comparing 318i vs 320i both F30, which one would be easier to maintain in a long run? I was thinking since 318i is a 1.5 3 pot engine which is only used on 318i, would it make 320i easier to source for parts since the engine has been around longer?
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The 1.5L 3 potter exist since late 2015 for 3 series, 1 series, 2 series and mini..
In future, 1 series and mini will still use the 3 potter

Do you know F30 320i have 2 different engine in Msia? N20 and B48
Which one you are looking for?
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post Feb 17 2020, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Jan 26 2020, 01:26 AM)
Let's say someone buys a 330i G20 with B48 engine, and another buys a 320i G20 with the same B48 engine but detuned a little

Both drivers have the same driving characteristics, and drove very similarly in a closed track as an experiment; would the two cars burn the same/similar amount of fuel?
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330i will consume more fuel due to volumetric efficiency.more power bring more wastage.someone explain b4 on older threads but not regards to bmw argument, but argument between 2.4 vs 2.0 engine.

I cant explain more about volumetric efficiency since I too stupid to understand engineering topics.

Maybe u can open a threads regards to this and hear the engineer explanation about this. Ya, got few engineer inside here.

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post Feb 17 2020, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(DM52 @ Feb 17 2020, 09:02 PM)
330i will consume more fuel due to volumetric efficiency.more power bring more wastage.someone explain b4 on older threads but not regards to bmw argument, but argument between 2.4 vs 2.0 engine.

I cant explain more about volumetric efficiency since I too stupid to understand engineering topics.

Maybe u can open a threads regards to this and hear the engineer explanation about this. Ya, got few engineer inside here.
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But the B48 in both 330i and 320i have the same hardware down to the "volume"

But ok perhaps i will google
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post Feb 17 2020, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(furious and fast @ Feb 17 2020, 11:08 PM)
318i 320i 330i are all 2000cc. i guess they share the same engine code b48 as well
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Errmmm no. well it depends

For the older F30 LCI, the 318i is using B38 engine, same family as the B48 and B58, but it only has 3 x 500ml cylinders - 1.5L

For the newer G20, the 318i is using B48 engine along with the 320i and 330i.

My question was that since the B48 used in different G20 models are likely only tuned differently, would a drive get the same mileage if he drives all three models moderately across a few days. Obviously the 330i has better maximum performance, but the driver can choose to activate eco pro to manage his driving

Just wondering. I do not drive the 330i like a maniac, but when I need the power/torque, I am glad that it is at the flip of a switch (to sports plus)
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post Feb 17 2020, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Feb 17 2020, 10:29 PM)
But the B48 in both 330i and 320i have the same hardware down to the "volume"

But ok perhaps i will google
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Cannot be. Internal sure stronger for higher end one. If it's the same...then like those days...Radeon 9500 can softmod to 9700.


Impossible bro. Surely internal are upgraded
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post Feb 17 2020, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(thefryingfox @ Feb 17 2020, 11:17 PM)
Cannot be. Internal sure stronger for higher end one. If it's the same...then like those days...Radeon 9500 can softmod to 9700.
Impossible bro. Surely internal are upgraded
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Perhaps you are right. Similar designs but not exactly the same hardware. Then they tune up? I wonder if the B48 320i F30 owners have tuned up their engines? A lot of workshops claim that it can be done, but what about the side effects?


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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Feb 17 2020, 11:14 PM)
Errmmm no. well it depends

For the older F30 LCI, the 318i is using B38 engine, same family as the B48 and B58, but it only has 3 x 500ml cylinders - 1.5L

For the newer G20, the 318i is using B48 engine along with the 320i and 330i.

My question was that since the B48 used in different G20 models are likely only tuned differently, would a drive get the same mileage if he drives all three models moderately across a few days. Obviously the 330i has better maximum performance, but the driver can choose to activate eco pro to manage his driving

Just wondering. I do not drive the 330i like a maniac, but when I need the power/torque, I am glad that it is at the flip of a switch (to sports plus)
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Possible close before engine boost and we only talking about engine only..
At High boost or high load, definitely there will be a different..
When you say you drive sedately everyday, there will always be a combination of low load and high load situation along the way.. stop and accelerate, up slope, overtaking etc... No one drive like EPA rating..
Go figure out https://youtu.be/P8UNwd4OLXI

Given Tyre size and body weight different between 330i and 320i.. you won't get exactly the same

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