Just curious what does /k think.

It is financial freedom?
Is it a pyramid scheme?

Do you like Amways product?

do u understand what is pyramid scheme ?

Amway is not pyramid.

It's MLM.

it is run by scammer ?

do u understand my question to TS ?

It feels like pyramid scheme. Always recruiting, encourage you to get more members.

You asked the wrong, meaningless, question.

can say is exaggerated products with inflated price.

not a pyramid but there is no promise of financial freedom. what you see glory in front, many suffering behind.

if i asking wrong meaningless question, than what make the person who is SMART, intelligence and answer me.
Nothing to be a shame for self mistake, but ignorant .... we know what u are now.

If u have to chase ppl to buy your product, then your product sucks. Good product will attract customer by itself.

ipon is shit, but sell like popcorn only...

owai

MLM

its MLM , can sell & recruit teams then good to go ... or else just eat shit

This thread is asking about Amway. Amway is not Pyramid. Because Amway sells products.
For info, from Wiki:

Can secure your empire for 6 generations to come. Jho low can't touch dis

Its a pyramid but not a pyramid.

LEGIT MLM

also.. AVON + COSWAY

It's American way. Not malaysian way

got one stingy sinkies waste my time to offer amway member. say this will make rich as him. however, ask meeting at coffee bean but not treat me and my friend. lend me his cd about amway. Then we must return the cd to amway hq. walau force us tojoin. in the end waste our time and transport money. go to their HQ also don't give us water.

Its 2019, who the fuck still joins amway and do direct selling.

You as the macai make money for ur boss upline
Become sozai if u become their downline

Your comprehension and sarcasm antenna must be very 'good' 🤣🤣🤣🤣

I rich doesnt mean i have to treat you coffee.

Expensive products

These agent need to continuously recruit member or else how the top agent/member can continuously have passive income.

Of course have to be expensive, else how to feed $$$ to the top agent/member. Then the top agent/member will tell the newly recruits that u can do it, and continue to recruit more member. Its the MLM game.

U do know nowadays alot of those govt servants STI into this kind of business rite
Selling some beauty products etc

No need to join lah. I have many who were active in the beginning, not long after , "survive" by buying and using the products themselves. Some even quit altogether. In the process, they probably lost some friends also.

soli，because amway，i lost many friends...

1. Ts is stupid to ask the /k here. If they know what's Amway all about, they are already very rich.

Hope you are not working for people, else you are also a sozai making your boss rich.

Which product is expensive? Many poor fag says Benz is expensive, but the true problem is they are just too poor for it.

Amway member spotted.

You up there always pretending to help those below. But the below people struggle to find new victim & lost many friend in the process. You up there showing off all your success to those below & look forward to be like them. In the end, only few of the thousands of those below can see the real profit.

Then you should be aware of your company too, because it always recruiting and encourage to get more customers.

There is but just a fine line between mlm and pyramid.

The great architect of pyramid, ponzi, succeeded by selling stamp.

buy toto is also financial freedom

these MLM schemes only looking for suckers to join and buy the initial package, upline untung, then you can die by yourself

You can't even answer the simplest question which product is expensive but claiming the product is expensive.

That's why majority of the /k are victims if they ask question here.

Totally different case la. Customer pay us to get our services and/or product.

Amway recruit people to sell their product, but mostly, to get downline for the upper members to earn 'commission'.

Answer people also please answer sensibly.

Dont you know? Almost all amway products are more expensive than similar other quality product.

Example their toothpaste.

But amway said their product is more valueble due to they are able to trace the ingredients of their product to manufacturing level. Just in case if happen anything to their client when using their product. If they can trace, they can provide improvements/countermeasures in their product. That is amway's argument la. It is up to the customer to decide whether the tracing method is worth the extra money for their product.

Panasnya buntut
Are you a diamond or platinum yet?
Or just a low level 'business owner'?
Hehe

Yup dia kuat butthurt betul bila kita kutuk amway tahi dia


This post has been edited by Daylight2018: Jun 8 2019, 12:11 AM

you were like, late for 40 years.

The more you answer, the more naive you show yourself.

What's the reason your boss hire you? Because you are too handsome? You are making him money of course.

Same for all other businesses. Wholesales get retailers to sell for them. So is it wrong for the wholesaler to make money?

Get your facts right first before you comment la kid.

So you are claiming Amway toothpaste is more expensive than "similar" other quality product ya.

Ok, please list out which other "similar" product is cheaper? Hope you really get your facts right so that you don't prove yourself claiming without facts again.

Siapa butthurt we dont know yet

Make sure get your homework done properly before act like an expert, else lena prove sohai then not good la.

Active speakers nowadays like Justin, the Toh brothers. Fact is, they are only a tiny few that has success in amway. Been there, not suitable for me. You must be willing to lose some friends n family too if you choose this path.

https://www.amway.my/en/Categories/Nutritio...00g%29/p/100325

waaa.. 500gram sell for RM146.8

i bought optimum nutrition gold standard 2.26kg for arond RM170

u saying ur cheapo soy protein is better than gold standard?

If size = quality, then lorry can run faster than a Ferrari.

u r a ignorant , i can't help but to throw u some...



it's this how u tell ur gf when she complain about ur dick being too small and pancut too fast?

Got some idiot Amway agent ask me go exercise and meet up at park. After 2 meet ups, try to take my health info. Like weight, height and even bring a weigh scale to a park and take my BMI LOL.

Later ask me buy soy protein crap. Wtf so obvious ON whey is one of the best and is much cheaper per gram of protein. Later that agent talk crap about whey saying it has high cholesterol. I'm like: an egg has more cholesterol than a scoop of whey.

Blocked and unfriended.

Of course retailers/wholesalers make money by selling, but they dont get commisions from their downline when their downline sells the product. For amway, more profits can be made by having more downlines due to the 'commision', rather than selling the actual product.

And I'm a boss running a business worth almost half a million. I am also working as an engineer in a MNC company. I'm no kid.

Dont get so offended will you? I didnt say amway is a scam or anything, i am just telling you how amway works. If u get offended so much and throwing out insults, well, its a sign what others suspects of amway.

How on earth can Amway survive until now. I wonder.

I think their market already bottomed out and now they just surviving on their circle of some hardcore users.

Amway been in Malaysia for like 30 years....if they cannot convert more people since then, it just means their market bottomed out already. No more growth.

agents use the products，give all to parents，sisters，brothers.....ask support....so basically earn among circles....

Friend of mine join amway

That friend always talk about amway

After several month, senyap

Haha, padam mukak

Cam cosway

I have a friend with title crown ambassador of AMway earning 6 digit income. not by selling amway product but just by finding new referral.
at the end he sell all his condo and sport car and now only drive perodua Kelisa.
because people below him coming to his house with parang. because he said top people above him cut the commission and his referral cant get any commission .
lol. he afraid of his family safety he actually know he earn money by sacrificing other people below him. and believe that what he get for his act.
but i least now he can live with peaceful mind.

Amway has many product. some of them are good product. maybe a bit expensive. i join Amway too last time. but i dont join from agent. i directly go to amway shop. i join around 2013 last time just because my wife want to buy toothpaste from amway. i go direct to Amway Shop in Alor star they said that shop only for distributer aka agent/membership. so if i want buy from them i need to join as Amway members. Bini punya pasai then i join that day juga. the fee is around RM100-RM110 if im not mistaken.

now i already terminate my membership. the best part is Amway give full refund if u cancel your membership. as bank cheque

i try some Amway product. some are good some are not good - maybe not suitable for me.
there are one product for irritating skin or burn skin healling. i try that to my betis. my betis burn because of terkena exzos moto yamaha TZM. its works.cukur..
for the toothpaste. i think no effect at all to me and my wife. my wife at the end go klinik gigi juga utk putihkan gigi.zz. that is why i terminate my membership. LOL

This post has been edited by diadokmai: Jun 8 2019, 05:26 AM

Ni kat mane? Dulu I kat puchong ade la top sales Amway balak ni, bawak merz CLK.. Parking dekat kedai makan kena cat ICI weatherbond, keta hitam jadi putih... wakakaka

member aku ni crown ammbassador dari indonesia. based jakarta. jual semua banglo, kereta semua bayar balik dekat referral bawah. pastu berhijrah tinggal di malaysia. dh lama crita ni. 13 tahun lepas.

umor dia dekat 45 tahun dah sekarang.
sekarang dia kerja di UTM skudai. dia ada master dlm art and design. pernah buat syarikat komik di indonesia. bungkus habis syarikat lari mai malaysia. sambung PHD kt UTM skudai tak ingat program apa. tapi la keja dlm UTM skudai. bapak dia kabel kuat. dr phd dlm fakulti awam UTM. tpi sebab dia dh tua dh bapak x ambik port la pasai MLM dia masuk. sebab tu dia sendiri settle problem dia. jual semua..

aku member byk geng2 foreigner time study di UTM dulu. practical dalam AITI UTM jumpa bro ni. jadi membe. masa tu bapak dia kabel letak dia keja dalam AITI. staf AITI mcm tak suka la dia ni indonesia pastu kabel lagi masuk keja. LOL. tau kisah dia kesian la jugak. tpi dia ambik iktibar dr apa yg jadi

Again, you are making claim without facts. Go and find out if Amway business really pay commission by getting downlines.

Offended? Probably the one that's got offended is you because you keep getting proved that you giving misleading points to others here.

7 wide 7 deep. Diamond

Its ok man. I guess there is no talking with you. And nah, i'm not offended.

then I can label you cheapskate. who wanna join if you don't treat us better. not like prudential auntie who gave me chicken curry when she presented her insurance product. in the end, i signed up her insurance product.

This post has been edited by L.Torreira: Jun 8 2019, 11:51 AM

Parking with popcorn

I have this amway friend keep spamming me everyday to go his promo and sharing session by their diamonds.

Fuck off la why leech on me. I just double tick him every time.

Simple... Tap into peoples fear and greed

When economics downturn, say why work for company boss and why not work for yourself. What agent don't say is work for agent top boss agent.

When no money, say earn more by selling overprice products or recruit more members. What agent don't say is overprice so that can feed agent top boss.

For every events, there is a catch words to says to individual.

Hi sir i heard about amway. I heard from fren to reach platinum need RM5k/month for consecutive 6 months period?

Lol Amway and other MLM around Malaysia.

Always with their lamest argument that their product quality are superior than those famous brands. When asked to proof their nutritional facts ada lagi hati nak kelentong. Really dumb bastards and bitches.

I will wait for their facts, which will never ever show up at all.

in short these like cosway and maleluca or the shaklee to me are scams that fattens the upline while the downline do all the work. in a way same as insurance

Every day can see MLM agents at most cafes and kopitiam in Klang Valley trying hard to recruit ppl....

Got some ppl join this or that then leave and join others. Until they joined all the MLM already....

Could be insurance ppl too, not only MLM. But same group lah...all direct selling.

Hehe... Want freedom? Means getting more down lines getting sales commission for u....

Must sell overpcied stuff to freedom faster ya... Sell Colgate too slow.

Question, if MLM work why all things still selling conventional ways?

Hey super911 someone talking shit about your revered brand.

Which I feel is true. Other brand specialising in one type is inferior to Amway that simply putting their brand name on almost all type of product?

Every year sure have Amway agents looking for new people. now thrley use facebook and go to job finding groups and ask them to do full time or part time. The real question is can it work? Is the monthly 1-2k sustainable?

amway really can do now?
'im amwaylian, i try sell Nutrilite product - protein

people said me annoying, and nutrilite so expensive compare to others brand.

amway really can do?

its been so many years already you pipu still talk about it?

lul amway member

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Amway, Shaklee, Cosway, Usana and other Direct-Selling companies are marketing schemes/scams selling hyped-up products at twice or more the normal retail price.

Eg Vitamin supplement selling for RM50 a bottle/30 pills at Guardian/Watson, the DS companies sell the same for RM100 a bottle/30 pills by hyping or falsely claiming extra health ingredients, benefits and blah blah blah. The extra RM50 profits(= RM100 - RM50) is used to pay commissions to downline and upline recruiters/direct-sellers, up to 3 or 4 levels of recruitment and for the coffers of the DS companies.

1 top person or upline direct-seller recruits 3 Level One downline direct-sellers,
the 3 Level One downline direct-sellers in turn recruit 9 Level Two downline direct-sellers, ie 1 person recruits 3 other persons,
the 9 Level Two downline direct-sellers recruit 27 Level Three downline direct-sellers,
the 27 Level Three downline direct-sellers recruit 81 Level Four downline direct-sellers.
....... 1 recruits 3, 3 recruit 9, 9 recruit 27, 27 recruit 81 = a pyramid.

Direct-selling is a limited pyramid scheme = limited to a few levels of recruitment. Ponzi schemes and MLM scams are unlimited pyramid schemes that eventually runs out of new recruits after a few years. Hence, the need for the masterminds to later repackage MLM scams in another form, in order to evade early detection or rahsia bocor.

DS and MLM money scams mimic normal retail businesses and financial investments except for the requirement to recruit new members for profits or commissions.
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1 Level Four downline direct-seller sells a bottle of the RM100 Vitamin supplement and gets about 15% commission or RM15.
1 of the 27 Level Three d-s who recruited the above Level Four d-s gets about 10% commission or RM10 from the above sale.
1 of the 9 Level Two d-s who recruited the above direct-sellers gets about 7% commission or RM7 from the above sale.
1 of the 3 Level One d-s gets about 5% commission or RM5 from the above sale.
The 1 top upline d-s gets about 3% commission or RM3 from the above sale.

Total payout in commissions by the DS company to the top upline and Level One to Four direct-sellers is RM40(= RM15 + 10 + 7 + 5 + 3) = company pockets RM10 out of the extra RM50 profit from the above sale of the RM100 Vitamin supplement.

If all 81 of the Level Four downline direct-sellers each sold 1 bottle of the RM100 Vitamin supplement, the top upline direct-seller gets RM243 commissions/income(= 81 X RM3 from every sale) from his/her simple recruitment effort.

If all the 81 Level Four d-s each sold RM1k of stuffs per month, the top upline d-s gets RM2,430 commissions/income per month(= 81 X RM30 or 3% of RM1k).
....... If the 27 Level Three, 9 Level Two and 3 Level One d-s also sells RM1k of stuffs per month, the top upline d-s also gets about RM2,000 more per month. That is how top upline direct-sellers can earn RM 5-figures per month and show off their Mercedes and bungalows to tempt and recruit new members.
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i think market will self adjusted. while u thinking u can sell at non-member price, other member sell their product way now cheaper than member price. they use part of their commission to do that.

though amway not condone them doing this but no action will be taken coz amway is the beneficial behind. see lazada shopee, thing is more cheaper there.

Obviously MLM lulz

You wanna lose friends then join lah

got new product



Morphy Richard Redefine Hot Water Dispenser, Exclusively from Amway Malaysia.

20 seconds can heat up water

and no reused keep heating

OVERALL means all the team member must be all do very hard right?

how come happen this??
they use the downline or upline to buy products?

so he paid commision by using his own money???

amway recruit a person only around rm90 ..
and you do not earn a single cent from that rm90....

how old is your friend?

Do you know how they do since covid-19 ?

I means the free tourism plan

You go gym frequently?

So ALL the Amway members are rich? Provide some proof la. Diamond level also not 10% of the members can reach. The other 90% basically feeding their upline with their consumption to maintain their tier/level.

My boss pays me a fixed salary without needing me to spend to feed my upline.

Recruiting and paying people vs recruiting people to buy your company product as a member are 2 different things.