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plouffle0789
post Oct 18 2020, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Dec 15 2019, 07:57 AM)


Amway, Shaklee, Cosway, Usana

and other Direct-Selling companies are marketing schemes/scams selling hyped-up products at twice or more the normal retail price.

Eg Vitamin supplement selling for RM50 a bottle/30 pills at Guardian/Watson, the DS companies sell the same for RM100 a bottle/30 pills by hyping or falsely claiming extra health ingredients, benefits and blah blah blah.


The extra RM50 profits(= RM100 - RM50) is used to pay commissions to downline and upline recruiters/direct-sellers, up to 3 or 4 levels of recruitment and for the coffers of the DS companies.

1 top person or upline direct-seller recruits 3 Level 1 downline direct-sellers,

the 3 Level 1 downline direct-sellers in turn recruit 9 Level 2 downline direct-sellers,
ie 1 person recruits 3 other persons,

the 9 Level 2 downline direct-sellers recruit 27 Level 3 downline direct-sellers,

the 27 Level 3 downline direct-sellers recruit 81 Level 4 downline direct-sellers.


.......


1 recruits 3, 3 recruit 9, 9 recruit 27, 27 recruit 81 =
a pyramid.



Direct-selling is a limited pyramid scheme = limited to a few levels of recruitment.

Ponzi schemes and MLM scams are unlimited pyramid schemes that eventually runs out of new recruits after a few years.

Hence, the need for the masterminds to later repackage MLM scams in another form, in order to evade early detection or rahsia bocor.

DS and MLM money scams mimic normal retail businesses and financial investments except for the requirement to recruit new members for profits or commissions.

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1 Level 4 downline direct-seller sells 1 bottle of the RM100 Vitamin supplement and
gets about 15% commission or RM15.

1 of the 27 Level 3 d-s who recruited the above Level 4 d-s    and  gets about 10% commission or RM10 from the above sale.

1 of the 9 Level 2 d-s who recruited the above direct-sellers    and    gets about 7% commission or RM7 from the above sale.

1 of the 3 Level 1 d-s  and    gets about 5% commission or RM5 from the above sale.

The 1 top upline d-s    and    gets about 3% commission or RM3 from the above sale.



Total payout in commissions by the DS company to the top upline and Level 1 to 4

direct-sellers is RM40  (= RM15 + 10 + 7 + 5 + 3)

=

company pockets RM10 out of the extra RM50 profit from the above sale of the RM100 Vitamin supplement.


If all 81 of the Level 4 downline direct-sellers each sold 1 bottle of the RM100 Vitamin supplement,

the top upline direct-seller gets RM243 commissions/income

(= 81 X RM3 from every sale) from his/her simple recruitment effort.


If all the 81 Level 4 d-s each sold RM1k of stuffs per month, the top upline d-s gets RM2,430 commissions/income per month

(= 81 X RM30 or 3% of RM1k).

....... If the 27 Level 3, 9 Level 2 and 3 Level 1 d-s also sells RM1k of stuffs per month,
the top upline d-s also gets about RM2,000 more per month.


That is how top upline direct-sellers can earn RM 5-figures per month and show off their Mercedes and bungalows to tempt and recruit new members.


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OVERALL means all the team member must be all do very hard right?


plouffle0789
post Oct 18 2020, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(diadokmai @ Jun 8 2019, 05:25 AM)
I have a friend with title crown ambassador of AMway earning 6 digit income. not by selling amway product but just by finding new referral.
at the end he sell all his condo and sport car and now only drive perodua Kelisa.
because people below him coming to his house with parang. because he said top people above him cut the commission and his referral cant get any commission .
lol. he afraid of his family safety he actually know he earn money by sacrificing other people below him. and believe that what he get for his act.
but i least now he can live with peaceful mind.

Amway has many product. some of them are good product. maybe a bit expensive. i join Amway too last time. but i dont join from agent. i directly go to amway shop.  i join around 2013 last time just because my wife want to buy toothpaste from amway. i go direct to Amway Shop in Alor star they said that shop only for distributer aka agent/membership. so if i want buy from them i need to join as Amway members. Bini punya pasai then i join that day juga. the fee is around RM100-RM110 if im not mistaken.

now i already terminate my membership. the best part is Amway give full refund if u cancel your membership. as bank cheque

i try some Amway product. some are good some are not good - maybe not suitable for me.
there are one product for irritating skin or burn skin healling. i try that to my betis. my betis burn because of terkena exzos moto yamaha TZM. its works.cukur..
for the toothpaste. i think no effect at all to me and my wife. my wife at the end go klinik gigi juga utk putihkan gigi.zz. that is why i terminate my membership. LOL
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I have a friend with title crown ambassador of AMway earning 6 digit income. not by selling amway product but just by finding new referral.

at the end he sell all his condo and sport car and now only drive perodua Kelisa.

because people below him coming to his house with parang. because he said top people above him cut the commission and his referral cant get any commission .

lol. he afraid of his family safety he actually know he earn money by sacrificing other people below him. and believe that what he get for his act.

but i least now he can live with peaceful mind.


how come happen this??
they use the downline or upline to buy products?

so he paid commision by using his own money???

amway recruit a person only around rm90 ..
and you do not earn a single cent from that rm90....

how old is your friend?


plouffle0789
post Oct 31 2021, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Dec 15 2019, 07:57 AM)
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Amway, Shaklee, Cosway, Usana and other Direct-Selling companies are marketing schemes/scams selling hyped-up products at twice or more the normal retail price.

Eg Vitamin supplement selling for RM50 a bottle/30 pills at Guardian/Watson, the DS companies sell the same for RM100 a bottle/30 pills by hyping or falsely claiming extra health ingredients, benefits and blah blah blah. The extra RM50 profits(= RM100 - RM50) is used to pay commissions to downline and upline recruiters/direct-sellers, up to 3 or 4 levels of recruitment and for the coffers of the DS companies.

1 top person or upline direct-seller recruits 3 Level One downline direct-sellers,
the 3 Level One downline direct-sellers in turn recruit 9 Level Two downline direct-sellers, ie 1 person recruits 3 other persons,
the 9 Level Two downline direct-sellers recruit 27 Level Three downline direct-sellers,
the 27 Level Three downline direct-sellers recruit 81 Level Four downline direct-sellers.
....... 1 recruits 3, 3 recruit 9, 9 recruit 27, 27 recruit 81 = a pyramid.

Direct-selling is a limited pyramid scheme = limited to a few levels of recruitment. Ponzi schemes and MLM scams are unlimited pyramid schemes that eventually runs out of new recruits after a few years. Hence, the need for the masterminds to later repackage MLM scams in another form, in order to evade early detection or rahsia bocor.

DS and MLM money scams mimic normal retail businesses and financial investments except for the requirement to recruit new members for profits or commissions.

.

1 Level Four downline direct-seller sells a bottle of the RM100 Vitamin supplement and gets about 15% commission or RM15.
1 of the 27 Level Three d-s who recruited the above Level Four d-s gets about 10% commission or RM10 from the above sale.
1 of the 9 Level Two d-s who recruited the above direct-sellers gets about 7% commission or RM7 from the above sale.
1 of the 3 Level One d-s gets about 5% commission or RM5 from the above sale.
The 1 top upline d-s gets about 3% commission or RM3 from the above sale.

Total payout in commissions by the DS company to the top upline and Level One to Four direct-sellers is RM40(= RM15 + 10 + 7 + 5 + 3) = company pockets RM10 out of the extra RM50 profit from the above sale of the RM100 Vitamin supplement.

If all 81 of the Level Four downline direct-sellers each sold 1 bottle of the RM100 Vitamin supplement, the top upline direct-seller gets RM243 commissions/income(= 81 X RM3 from every sale) from his/her simple recruitment effort.

If all the 81 Level Four d-s each sold RM1k of stuffs per month, the top upline d-s gets RM2,430 commissions/income per month(= 81 X RM30 or 3% of RM1k).
....... If the 27 Level Three, 9 Level Two and 3 Level One d-s also sells RM1k of stuffs per month, the top upline d-s also gets about RM2,000 more per month. That is how top upline direct-sellers can earn RM 5-figures per month and show off their Mercedes and bungalows to tempt and recruit new members.
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plouffle0789
post Oct 31 2021, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(steadystream @ Jun 8 2019, 01:09 AM)
https://www.amway.my/en/Categories/Nutritio...00g%29/p/100325

waaa.. 500gram sell for RM146.8

i bought optimum nutrition gold standard 2.26kg for arond RM170

u saying ur cheapo soy protein is better than gold standard?
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scorptim
post Oct 31 2021, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(super911 @ Jun 7 2019, 11:36 PM)
1. Ts is stupid to ask the /k  here. If they know what's Amway all about, they are already very rich.
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So ALL the Amway members are rich? Provide some proof la. Diamond level also not 10% of the members can reach. The other 90% basically feeding their upline with their consumption to maintain their tier/level.

QUOTE(super911 @ Jun 7 2019, 11:38 PM)
Hope you are not working for people, else you are also a sozai making your boss rich.
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My boss pays me a fixed salary without needing me to spend to feed my upline.

QUOTE(super911 @ Jun 7 2019, 11:45 PM)
Then you should  be aware of your company too, because it always recruiting and encourage to get more customers.
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Recruiting and paying people vs recruiting people to buy your company product as a member are 2 different things.

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