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post Sep 7 2007, 08:54 PM

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uhm, can i use laquer paint for gundam lining or should i get an enamel paint? : X.
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post Sep 7 2007, 08:57 PM

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Maybe you didnt shake well enough or spray too close on the model?
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QUOTE([]tr|al[] @ Sep 7 2007, 08:54 PM)
uhm, can i use laquer paint for gundam lining or should i get an enamel paint? : X.
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it is not advicesable to use laquer for lining...best stick with enamel
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post Sep 7 2007, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(VincC454 @ Sep 7 2007, 09:33 PM)
it is not advicesable to use laquer for lining...best stick with enamel
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Just go add to this. There's basically 2 reasons for this:
- For lining work, you'll need something that can be cleaned up easily, without stripping away the paint under it. Lacquer is thinner based, of which cleaning up using thinner will strip away everything till the plastic, and not just the lining work to be tidied up

- lacquer dries too fast for it to be effectively used for lining.
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post Sep 7 2007, 11:09 PM

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o crap. i brought wrong paints then. i went n brought laquer paints for handbrush T_T
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post Sep 8 2007, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE([]tr|al[] @ Sep 7 2007, 11:09 PM)
o crap. i brought wrong paints then. i went n brought laquer paints for handbrush T_T
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tat happen to me b4...whn i started gundam last yr... and i wanna try handbrush( dumb me) . quite crappy... but thn now tat gundam broke...so damn fast...duno y... mayb tats y its on discount =.=.


Added on September 8, 2007, 10:01 pmone question ... i used the gundam marker...i painted on a part of my gundam... gold colour... i let it dry a little...thn i mess up the colour a bit with a stick ... make it like a little dry... thn i scrape with scissors and toothpick... then the edges i shade with pencil a little... does this count as a battle damage look? my bro say it looks like its a rusty piece ...

cant take pics...coz no camera...lol.

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QUOTE(zheyuen @ Sep 8 2007, 09:57 PM)
tat happen to me b4...whn i started gundam last yr... and i wanna try handbrush( dumb me) . quite crappy... but thn now tat gundam broke...so damn fast...duno y... mayb tats y its on discount =.=.


Added on September 8, 2007, 10:01 pmone question ... i used the gundam marker...i painted on a part of my gundam... gold colour... i let it dry a little...thn i mess up the colour a bit with a stick ... make it like a little dry...  thn i scrape with scissors and toothpick...  then the edges i shade with pencil a little... does this count as a battle damage look? my bro say it looks like its a rusty piece ...

cant take pics...coz no camera...lol.
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kinda hard to tell without a pic to look at, but anyways, battle damage is actually more than just paintwork, as it involves poking holes (in the right way) into the plastic. But this can be a rather freaky thing to do if u're not used to it (plenty of heartache involved after spending money on the kit). But if u're to look at battle damaged areas, like bullet holes, or scar marks on the armor plates after being hit by sharpnel, you'll find that those r the spots that rust will set in first.
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QUOTE(fyire @ Sep 8 2007, 10:10 PM)
kinda hard to tell without a pic to look at, but anyways, battle damage is actually more than just paintwork, as it involves poking holes (in the right way) into the plastic. But this can be a rather freaky thing to do if u're not used to it (plenty of heartache involved after spending money on the kit). But if u're to look at battle damaged areas, like bullet holes, or scar marks on the armor plates after being hit by sharpnel, you'll find that those r the spots that rust will set in first.
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then can it be considered paint chipping? can teach me some battle damaging?
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post Sep 13 2007, 07:43 AM

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ohh, so must the lining be applied after or before spraying? (i'm talking bout the gundam fine tip lining pen)

because i dont think the ink will stick before spraying, but if lining is done after spraying, then apply thinner to make it tidy, doesnt the same thinner strips away the current paint?
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Out of curiosity, what's the use of thinner? I read online its for paint which is too think for airbrushes and cleaning the tools afterwards.

I recently tried to paint a piece of a model which was silver with mr. hobby color chrome silver, but realized that there isn't much difference except for the fact that my brush strokes were uneven. Is it possible to paint thinner on the piece to restore it to its original molded colour?

Also, when cleaning paint brushes, do you dip the brush into the bottle of thinner? Or do you put it in a separate container then dip it in?
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post Sep 13 2007, 10:18 AM

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Thinner is like is name, it tends to make the paint thinner so it will be much more easier to paint on ur kit!

to make ur painting more even tried using Mr Color's Retarded Mild, it helps by making ur paint dried up slower and u wont see paint stroke over ur kit!

If u dun want ur whole bottle of thinner to change and carry some weird color, u u better pour some out into separate container.

Does this cover all ur question?





Vincc i want to ask u where u get those tamiya XF paint those used for panel lining?
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QUOTE(boltguard @ Sep 13 2007, 07:43 AM)
ohh, so must the lining be applied after or before spraying? (i'm talking bout the gundam fine tip lining pen)

because i dont think the ink will stick before spraying, but if lining is done after spraying, then apply thinner to make it tidy, doesnt the same thinner strips away the current paint?
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if you use the same type of thinner that use for spraying then yes..it will wash away the paint you just spray
but what for you using thinner anyway if you are using just lining marker...just use eraser good enough already for oil base pen.

i dunno...but my way is to spray first lining later...

QUOTE(naith @ Sep 13 2007, 10:05 AM)
Out of curiosity, what's the use of thinner? I read online its for paint which is too think for airbrushes and cleaning the tools afterwards.

I recently tried to paint a piece of a model which was silver with mr. hobby color chrome silver, but realized that there isn't much difference except for the fact that my brush strokes were uneven. Is it possible to paint thinner on the piece to restore it to its original molded colour?

Also, when cleaning paint brushes, do you dip the brush into the bottle of thinner? Or do you put it in a separate container then dip it in?
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thinner are needed to thin the paint...since most of the time the paint come in very very thick form.
cleaning your tool and using to thin the paint use different type of thinner...

and lol...you wanna dip you dirty black color brush into your bottle of thinner then want the whole bottle turn into black ar? what a waste

of course u need to pour the thinner our from the bottle then only wash your brush...

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post Sep 13 2007, 11:46 AM

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Ok, thanx for the insight. Is it possible to paint thinner on to a piece of a model kit which has already been painted in order to restore it back to the original color it was molded in?
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QUOTE(300078 @ Sep 13 2007, 10:18 AM)
Thinner is like is name, it tends to make the paint thinner so it will be much more easier to paint on ur kit!

to make ur painting more even tried using Mr Color's Retarded Mild, it helps by making ur paint dried up slower and u wont see paint stroke over ur kit!

If u dun want ur whole bottle of thinner to change and carry some weird color, u u better pour some out into separate container.

Does this cover all ur question?
Vincc i want to ask u where u get those tamiya XF paint those used for panel lining?
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those tamiya enamel? got it from aunty lenny

QUOTE(naith @ Sep 13 2007, 11:46 AM)
Ok, thanx for the insight. Is it possible to paint thinner on to a piece of a model kit which has already been painted in order to restore it back to the original color it was molded in?
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you mean like remove the paint? then its possible but must be very careful not to use too much thinner...and never use hardware thinner to do this kind of job...you might end up melt your plastic...

but sometimes...model that been paint fo sometimes already...they are harder to come off even using thinner...



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QUOTE(naith @ Sep 13 2007, 11:46 AM)
Ok, thanx for the insight. Is it possible to paint thinner on to a piece of a model kit which has already been painted in order to restore it back to the original color it was molded in?
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For acrylics, yes, but not for lacquers. The lacquer thinner will attack the plastic, and u're gonna get a rather badly warped thing at the end.

If u want to repaint, then just sand over using fine sandpaper (to reduce the thickness of the paint on the plastic), prime again, then repaint.
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hi,

Usually i paint first before lining. However, i notice that if u do lining on top of the paint, u no longer be able to remove the lining using eraser (i use Gundam Oil Marker)
Any idea how to solve this? If i use thinner to remove the lining, i might end up stripping off my paint as well >"< (FYI, i using acrylics paint)
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Hi,

May i know what type of thinner should i use for Mr. Surfacer 1200 and my Mr. Hobby Paint?
Currently i using Mr. Color Leveling Thinner....
Is it surfacer and paint must not use the same thinner?
Some one help me plzzzz
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QUOTE(Gundam84 @ Sep 13 2007, 09:56 PM)
hi,

Usually i paint first before lining. However, i notice that if u do lining on top of the paint, u no longer be able to remove the lining using eraser (i use Gundam Oil Marker)
Any idea how to solve this? If i use thinner to remove the lining, i might end up stripping off my paint as well >"< (FYI, i using acrylics paint)
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try using tissue dipped in either zippo fluid or kerosene. That should be able to remove the oil based marks, while leaving the acrylic layer intact. Also the level of success depends a lot on the paint too. Its far easier to clean up on top of gloss paint than matt paint.


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QUOTE(blurkia @ Sep 15 2007, 10:51 PM)
Hi,

May i know what type of thinner should i use for Mr. Surfacer 1200 and my Mr. Hobby Paint?
Currently i using Mr. Color Leveling Thinner....
Is it surfacer and paint must not use the same thinner?
Some one help me plzzzz
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Been using hardware thinner (available from any hardware store) for lacquers (Mr. Surfacer, and Mr. Hobby Lacquers) all this time without any problems.

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use normal blue label mr hobby thinner will do...no need leveling thinner unless you wanna use it with airbrush...
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Hey all.... currently building a HG G-Saviour Space Mode model.... should i apply any type of primer before spray painting it ? Im using tamiya's spray paints... Wat kind of primer should i use ?
Wat kind of spray paints are good for gundam models ? thnx in advance notworthy.gif

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