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MyKy44
post Mar 19 2008, 12:38 AM

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How come after topcoat still can chip off wan? This is weird la. I'm not sure la, haven't use topcoat before.
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post Mar 19 2008, 12:44 AM

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QUOTE(darklancer @ Mar 19 2008, 12:06 AM)
i wanna ask, after applying topcoat, gundam marker paint can stick on it o not? i'm having problem now
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Nippon Pylox has left me in despair....
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can but it will look weird... coz after u apply topcoat, there will be a layer which u kenot see wiv ur own eyes de..
hmm... tat's weird... 1st of all did u PRIME anot? tat did happen to me b4 and it's because i din prime(testing)

QUOTE(zheyuen @ Mar 19 2008, 12:10 AM)
i wonder how such a big spider enter ur house... ur spider zero custom...XD...

k i m toking crap...
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1st of all, not my house, just rent a room there... 2nd behind the house is a small forest + kubur.. lol... so go figure. tongue.gif

QUOTE(darklancer @ Mar 19 2008, 12:24 AM)
it's like the paint got scratch off when i'm assembling them 2gether. so can gundam marker ink stick on a topcoat surface?
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like i asked, did u prime ur kit anot? after topcoat, watever paint still can stick on it one

QUOTE(MyKy44 @ Mar 19 2008, 12:38 AM)
How come after topcoat still can chip off wan? This is weird la. I'm not sure la, haven't use topcoat before.
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topcoat doesn't prevent ur paint from chipping la.. doh.gif
it just protects the paint, something like tat
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post Mar 19 2008, 12:44 AM

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nope, i havent top coat yet. this happened when i put the parts together, the paint got scratch.....means nippon pilox paint fall of from scratches.....and i tot nippon paints are weather proof @_@

wat i wanted to do is to add shading after spray then topcoat, but now hv to topcoat then shading then topcoat again.....


Added on March 19, 2008, 12:47 amnope, i didnt prime. can't find surfacer T_T the paint fall off from simple scratch...wat shud i do?


Possessed Spider.

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did u prime ur kit? it happen to me when i didn't prime my kit..
if u see my zaku n my HG wing, it's totally fine coz i prime them, paint din chip off...
nippon paints are weather proof but these r plyox wo. sweat.gif
if u wan to do shading, u nid to use other type of paints coz Pylox is lacquer type, u cant have the same paint or the paint will be smeared.. topcoat is last la, u dun hav to topcoat to do shading.. sweat.gif


Added on March 19, 2008, 12:50 am
QUOTE(darklancer @ Mar 19 2008, 12:44 AM)
nope, i havent top coat yet. this happened when i put the parts together, the paint got scratch.....means nippon pilox paint fall of from scratches.....and i tot nippon paints are weather proof @_@

wat i wanted to do is to add shading after spray then topcoat, but now hv to topcoat then shading then topcoat again.....


Added on March 19, 2008, 12:47 amnope, i didnt prime. can't find surfacer T_T the paint fall off from simple scratch...wat shud i do?
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tat is y lo... u didn't prime... pylox paint like tat one.. i tried on my HG wing, didnt prime... wa.. the paint chip off so easily but after i prime, really big difference, nvr chip at all d... i can even use my knife scratch here n there and no paint chip off.. brows.gif
this problem can be solve if u got surfacer but now u dun hav so u hav to be careful d...

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post Mar 19 2008, 12:52 AM

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i didn't noe cos first time.....so wat do u think i shud do now? if topcoat wun help to prevent the paint from chipped off, then i got no choice but to only depend on surfacer......can't find any here in kuching......
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post Mar 19 2008, 12:58 AM

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i alr mentioned to u guys, if u wan use pylox, must prime 1st.. i tested myself b4 tat's y i kno... wink.gif
topcoat wun prevent it from chipping ler...
u really really nid surfacer... if u cant find any , try find industrial surfacer if there's one but i cant guarantee is it the same.. =/
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post Mar 19 2008, 01:18 AM

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guess i'll hv to postpone my project then.......T_T

show u guys my first project
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post Mar 19 2008, 01:22 AM

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post Mar 19 2008, 01:28 AM

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it has been said b4... u cant export Spray cans... coz it's flammable, dangerous... =/
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only by boat and it takes months @_@
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Aiyor, i got friend who lived in Sabah ma... he then can courier to you...
But not sure if he can take it back to Sabah from Penisular...
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post Mar 19 2008, 01:55 AM

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hmm...nvm...a local hobby shop said wanna bring in surfacer around end of may. plus i'm low on cash. btw, i found this

http://www.hlj.com/product/GNZB-519

it's nothing special just ta it's long rite?
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post Mar 19 2008, 10:38 AM

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this is just a big bottle... i'm using this one... tongue.gif
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1. Cement and Assemble
2. Sand
3. Prime / Surface
4. Lining
5. Paint/Airbrush
6. Topcoat
7. Decals
8. Topcoat again.

sweat.gif Don't kuku me ar. I ask above steps are correct or not as that's what I've read so far.
And Topcoat means paint another layer right? How bout those with decals on it?

notworthy.gif Thanks.
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post Mar 19 2008, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(temptation1314 @ Mar 19 2008, 11:58 AM)
1. Cement and Assemble
2. Sand
3. Prime / Surface
4. Lining
5. Paint/Airbrush
6. Topcoat
7. Decals
8. Topcoat again.

sweat.gif Don't kuku me ar. I ask above steps are correct or not as that's what I've read so far.
And Topcoat means paint another layer right? How bout those with decals on it?

notworthy.gif Thanks.
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do lining is after paint~
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post Mar 19 2008, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(temptation1314 @ Mar 19 2008, 11:58 AM)
1. Cement and Assemble
2. Sand
3. Prime / Surface
4. Lining
5. Paint/Airbrush
6. Topcoat
7. Decals
8. Topcoat again.

sweat.gif Don't kuku me ar. I ask above steps are correct or not as that's what I've read so far.
And Topcoat means paint another layer right? How bout those with decals on it?

notworthy.gif Thanks.
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actually 1st step is called pre-assemble(testing snap fit, something like tat)
u dun nid to cement everything yet depends on the kit.. let's say a HG or NG kit, u nid to paint the inside 1st only the armor rite since got no body frame so if u cement d then susah..
step 4 wrong.. u do panel lining AFTER u paint/AB..
step 6 can skip actually if u wan to save topcoat, it's not compulsory to spray 2 times.. i only do tat on certain kits.. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(z3r0717 @ Mar 19 2008, 12:03 PM)
actually 1st step is called pre-assemble(testing snap fit, something like tat)
u dun nid to cement everything yet depends on the kit.. let's say a HG or NG kit, u nid to paint the inside 1st only the armor rite since got no body frame so if u cement d then susah..
step 4 wrong.. u do panel lining AFTER u paint/AB..
step 6 can skip actually if u wan to save topcoat, it's not compulsory to spray 2 times.. i only do tat on certain kits.. tongue.gif
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You mean the skeleton first lar laugh.gif I got that. smile.gif

Actually pre-assemble I'm ok with it, only the process afterwards... zzz 1 wrong move, my rare kits gone.
Ok, means that

1. Pre-assemble(Sand, cement, etc.)
2. Prime / Surface
3. Paint / Airbrush
4. Lining
5. Decals

Above this one more accurate?? tongue.gif

Btw, I know sticking decals on kits will result in... sticker seam lines(call this as what ler hmm.gif)
So topcoat 1 time after decals will hide those seam lines or there's special way?
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post Mar 19 2008, 01:00 PM

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can anyone recommend me which type/brand is good on
gold/silver/chrome paint for handbrush
tq
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post Mar 19 2008, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(darklancer @ Mar 19 2008, 12:06 AM)
i wanna ask, after applying topcoat, gundam marker paint can stick on it o not? i'm having problem now
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Nippon Pylox has left me in despair....
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the paint is not suitable for plastic, that y it didnt "makan" onto the surface, it just "stick" onto of the layer, so the whole piece of paint chip off.....

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Added on March 19, 2008, 1:23 pm
QUOTE(8tvt @ Mar 19 2008, 01:00 PM)
can anyone recommend me which type/brand is good on
gold/silver/chrome paint for handbrush
tq
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gundam marker is the best..... tongue.gif

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post Mar 19 2008, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(sunnyboy @ Mar 19 2008, 01:21 PM)
gundam marker is the best..... tongue.gif
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then how to drybrush?

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