Wonder why Klopp don't want to convert him to a full left wing. Could be a new Bale.

Mane don't really cross a lot. Robertson does most of them.

But I thought he always cheong attack, don't want to defend.

i do agree on the part where I see Mane tracks back a lot, when we lose possession. Salah on the other hand doesn't tracks back so much. Probably Klopp tactics.

Still it's kind of waste for his attacking talents. Guess Klopp needs defenders who can attack and attackers who can defend.

Wish Moreno all the best.

And wish Daniel all the best too. 3S is wonderful.

This is true. Salah 1-on-1 doesn't seems too good. And his goalscoring percentage isn't good either. Out of the many shots he had, only a few went in. He's just lucky that when Liverpool counter or launch an attack, he always gets the ball first.

I also don't like Salah selfishness. Always when his team got better goalscoring chance, he'll still try and take the shot. When I watch the matches, I always wonder why Salah don't wanna pass. His selfish attitude at times is worrying.

I believe Mane has better all round display than Salah.

Oh ya, and by the way, the Club World Cup is back. They wanted to have it every 4 yrs, with the next one in 2021 after last edition in 2018. Not sure why the sudden u-turn. Probably money for FIFA.

Surprisingly, Liverpool is on 2nd place on total wage per season, behind MU. We pay Lovren and Lallana more than 100k to warm the bench.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/8386507/live...prem-wage-bill/

This post has been edited by beebee1314: Jun 7 2019, 01:02 AM

It's unfair to compare Michael Owen to Coutinho. Owen forced his way for the transfer. Coutinho agreed to stay on for another half season, and got us 142mil. Owen got us what? 7mil and a fcking Nunez.

If you're comparing both teams, we have a much stronger team today, if u look at the EPL quality. And how we bought Alisson and Vvd? Thanks to Coutinho.

Me for one, will not boo Coutinho. He's the reason we got them both here with us, thus the CL. I'll forever be grateful to Coutinho.

Thanking PSG is too far anyway. If he stayed on, I wouldn't be sure if we can win the CL or not. On his day, his goals are amazing. But his inconsistencies caused us games as well. As such, even if he left, it wouldn't hurt us as much. And when he gave us a chance to compete in the market for a GK and a CB, I won't complain at all. Also, he signed a new contract the year before, knowing well that he will leave soon, since the Suarez saga. But he signed it, gave us a chance for 142mil. Why still condemn? To me, no players are bigger than the club. And if he can give us 142mil, he should be given the red carpet. I'd be fair to him. He left chasing his dream, and left us with a war chest. Fair and square. Win-win. And did we gain from it? Yes another 120mil for winning CL. And 100mil plus for getting 2nd place in EPL. 220mil war chest next season.

Will u rather have Coutinho in attack, and Lovren + Karius in defensive position, OR having Alisson + VVD in defensive, and Mane in attacking? I'd choose the Alisson + VVD + Mane instead. Yes he left us in January, got us scrambling, but in Klopp we trust.

As people like Owen, we needed him. He was our main striker. But he chose to leave, knowing Liverpool will get nothing out of his transfer fee. He's effectively a scum, an asshole taking opportunity of his short contract, something De Gea is doing to ManU this season. If Owen would have signed a new deal and left at 30mil the next season, I would have given him the red carpet too. 30mil was big that time and could have given us time for a huge striker.

Coutinho wanted to leave, and he still signed the new deal. Especially when Suarez is already leaving, he knew his turn will come. But he still signed it. At least it gave us a chance to get the 142mil.

This post has been edited by beebee1314: Jun 13 2019, 03:17 PM

He forced his way out after signing a new deal. Haha for a fan like me, I'll thank him greatly. In fact, it's him that got us 142mil, now because of the 142mil we invested, we got another 220mil. He won't get my respect for his acting, but no hatred as well. Barca already came the season before, but still signed a new deal with us. For this, I respect him.

Torres is not someone I'll boo as well. He did his part. He came back different after his injury. We were lucky to get 50mil from Chelsea for a half Torres. But we invested in Carroll instead, which is poor. Torres will forever get my respect.

True. Biggest crime for me, is not signing a new deal first before leaving.

U think Liverpool will spend 75mil for a defender if we didn't sell Coutinho? Liverpool, for our owners, will always be a sell before buy club. Don't lie to yourself.

It's not his plan to be sold how much. But since the club has confirmed they can get more than a 100mil, we decided to proceed with VVD. Remember the season before, we failed to get VVD because Liverpool made an illegal approach. Its still our cheap ways of influencing a player's decision. As for his contract increase, who doesn't want to have salary increase in a new contract. Lol. Dunno about other people, the 142mil Liverpool managed to collect is a good business.

Haha for Garcia, we had to buy him. But between him and Garcia, Owen is much better. We could have won with him too. Winning Gerrard and team is sheer luck and determination. U see how we won Tottenham? We put in a poor performance and still can win. Speaks volume of how much the team has evolved. When we won with Gerrard, Carragher was playing with an injury, Gerrard finished at right back and we ended the game with 10 man due to Carragher injury.

In here, we see 2 types of team. One is pure determination and perseverance. Another is team quality.

Haha I'm not gonna argue with ya. Coutinho is past. We got our money, he got his dream move. We moved on, we win. Like Salah, he is not irreplaceable. Neither is Mane. As long as the right price comes which Klopp feels its correct, they can leave.

When Klopp can sell Ibe for more than 20mil, I'll trust Klopp. The only person irreplaceable now is Klopp and his management team.

#kloppout please. Give us top position, made me so high like on drugs.

Just wanna correct something. For Trent's 1st handball, it clearly hits his hand first before hitting his body. Go re-watch it. However some arguments said it hits Silva first. Well for Silva, he wouldn't have enough time to keep his hand as he was running and half on the air. Trent's hand came outstretch just before the ball hit it.

For the 2nd hand ball, his hand wasn't next to his torso actually. If you watch the match, there's a replay where his left palms were further away from his butt. Due to the force and pain being hit by the ball, the palm reacted and pull back to the back of his butt. A split few seconds. Just like someone smacks your face and you pull back immediately to reduce the pain.

Anyhow, hand ball or not, 3 pts taken. That's all that matters.

Go watch other replays. Live match replay is the clearest coz of the drone. Clearly hit his hand first. You got a point if you say it deflected off silva's hand and hit trent's hand. But if you say it deflected off trent body and hit his own hand, then it's wrong.

For second, it's the same as the penalty mane got the other day when he hooked the ball and hit another player's palm for a penalty. That's why the inconsistencies.

Anyway although it's unfair, as long as decisions go our way, I won't debate it's unfair. Just like the 11mm shit. We want EPL trophy. Whether clean or dirty

Somewhat controversial but hey, I'm not the referee. If I'm city player, it'll be very unfair. Since I'm pool fan, I'll tell them "you got the 11mm last season so 21 second for me now.