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post May 30 2019, 07:39 PM, updated 6 months ago

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sad.gif can anyone help me, my honda city 2003 idsi fuel consumption is killing me. i've read many article and reviews saying that the city can go for 600 km on full tank. But mine which i just bought 2nd hand can nly go for 260km on a full tank.
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post May 30 2019, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(Wengweng34 @ May 30 2019, 07:39 PM)
sad.gif can anyone help me, my honda city 2003 idsi fuel consumption is killing me. i've read many article and reviews saying that the city can go for 600 km on full tank. But mine which i just bought 2nd hand can nly go for 260km on a full tank.
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600km for highway drive, sounds like urs is city driving. and its a very old car, definitely you wont be able to get that mileage with wear and tear of the engine.
If you drive the car brand new its a different story. you cannot compare data collected when its brand new vs an old car

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post May 30 2019, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(ExCrIpT @ May 30 2019, 07:49 PM)
600km for highway drive, sounds like urs is city driving. and its a very old car, definitely you wont be able to get that mileage with wear and tear of the engine.
If you drive the car brand new its a different story. you cannot compare data collected when its brand new vs an old car
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post May 30 2019, 09:28 PM

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Something wrong already...bring to trusted workshop to check

Fuel leaks (fuel tank, fuel hose or leaky injector
Clog catalytic converter or exhaust
Spark plugs
Timing chain (see if its lose, old car, bad timing cause high fuel consumption)
Also pls do Vacuum leaks test
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post May 31 2019, 12:21 AM

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Things to check,
Sparkplug poor =incomplete burn
Air filter dirty= not enough O2 to burn
O2 sensor rosak = ecu dunno how much fuel to inject
Tyre pressure too low = too much resistance
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post May 31 2019, 06:56 AM

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Old engine definitely won't be able to achieve the mileage of a new engine on a full tank. However, your 260km/tank is a bit too thirsty.

Try to replace some basic parts and see whether there is an improvement such as:

Air filter;
Fuel strainer;
spark plugs;
coil packs;
O2 sensors at intake and exhaust.

There is also a possibility of faulty fuel injectors which doesn't spray the fuel properly which may lead to higher fuel consumption.

This post has been edited by Thrust: May 31 2019, 06:57 AM
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post May 31 2019, 07:45 AM

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Just for your reference. My previous honda jazz 2003 1.4 idsl was able to achieve 270km for rm40 in 2018. City 60%, highway 40%. Light footer.
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post May 31 2019, 10:03 AM

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My 2006 myvi can achieve 250km for 95% "taman" drive. Spirited driving.
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post May 31 2019, 10:34 AM

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600km on a full tank is really kinda fake claim.
except you drive highway 100% with air conditioning off.
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QUOTE(JZenith @ May 31 2019, 10:34 AM)
600km on a full tank is really kinda fake claim.
except you drive highway 100% with air conditioning off.
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Well, I remember when they just launch Honda City with that CVT transmission, they boast about their tests going to Penang and back with full tank can reach 700km. That is 100% highway and probably driven with conservation. Then again, they might no have done it but just talk only. During those days there are no youtube or blogging yet.
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post Jun 10 2019, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(Wengweng34 @ May 30 2019, 07:39 PM)
sad.gif can anyone help me, my honda city 2003 idsi fuel consumption is killing me. i've read many article and reviews saying that the city can go for 600 km on full tank. But mine which i just bought 2nd hand can nly go for 260km on a full tank.
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Have you had the airbag replaced?
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QUOTE(Brotherjoe @ Jun 10 2019, 11:20 PM)
Have you had the airbag replaced?
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Hahaha...out of topic but good point! TS better get the airbag checked.
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post Jun 11 2019, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(JZenith @ May 31 2019, 10:34 AM)
600km on a full tank is really kinda fake claim.
except you drive highway 100% with air conditioning off.
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This...

Even new god car vios only can achieve 300km city drive with full tank... not to mention old city idsl...
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post Jun 11 2019, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(JZenith @ May 31 2019, 10:34 AM)
600km on a full tank is really kinda fake claim.
except you drive highway 100% with air conditioning off.
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I don't know man. I think 600 km is about the average of what a fuel tank should be able to achieve. Of course, it should be with (majority) highway driving.

Someone I know in Indonesia, recently balik kampung, traveling on Avanza 1.3 for roughly 600km. Road conditions include jams at certain points, idling for a few hours waiting for ferry, and of course highway. One full tank all the way with some balance.

For me, I have 2012 Accord 2.4 (with over 250,000 km) and 2008 320i (120,000 km). Both can go at least 600 km per full tank. And this is in the middle east, where the summer temperature can reach 50C. Also, I keep a diligent record of each gas fill (full to full method) - so I know they can get me 600km at least.

But certainly, if TS is getting only 200+ km per full tank, something is wrong. Engine overhaul may be needed to see what the problem is.
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post Jun 11 2019, 07:10 PM

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QUOTE(abu.shofwan @ Jun 11 2019, 02:11 PM)
I don't know man. I think 600 km is about the average of what a fuel tank should be able to achieve. Of course, it should be with (majority) highway driving.

Someone I know in Indonesia, recently balik kampung, traveling on Avanza 1.3 for roughly 600km. Road conditions include jams at certain points, idling for a few hours waiting for ferry, and of course highway. One full tank all the way with some balance.

For me, I have 2012 Accord 2.4 (with over 250,000 km) and 2008 320i (120,000 km). Both can go at least 600 km per full tank. And this is in the middle east, where the summer temperature can reach 50C. Also, I keep a diligent record of each gas fill (full to full method) - so I know they can get me 600km at least.

But certainly, if TS is getting only 200+ km per full tank, something is wrong. Engine overhaul may be needed to see what the problem is.
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dude.... the Accord and e90 tank size is huge compare to b segment Japanese car, it's better to express in km/l unit when comparing fc


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QUOTE(abu.shofwan @ Jun 11 2019, 02:11 PM)
I don't know man. I think 600 km is about the average of what a fuel tank should be able to achieve. Of course, it should be with (majority) highway driving.

Someone I know in Indonesia, recently balik kampung, traveling on Avanza 1.3 for roughly 600km. Road conditions include jams at certain points, idling for a few hours waiting for ferry, and of course highway. One full tank all the way with some balance.

For me, I have 2012 Accord 2.4 (with over 250,000 km) and 2008 320i (120,000 km). Both can go at least 600 km per full tank. And this is in the middle east, where the summer temperature can reach 50C. Also, I keep a diligent record of each gas fill (full to full method) - so I know they can get me 600km at least.

But certainly, if TS is getting only 200+ km per full tank, something is wrong. Engine overhaul may be needed to see what the problem is.
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D-segment sedan usually 60L tank, B segment usually only 40L fuel tank. 60L divide 600km is about 10km per liter, 10km per liter is pretty bad if just highway drive I think sweat.gif
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post Jun 11 2019, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(Valentino46 @ Jun 11 2019, 07:10 PM)
dude.... the Accord and e90 tank size is huge compare to b segment Japanese car, it's better to express in km/l unit when comparing fc
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post Jun 11 2019, 08:10 PM

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QUOTE(Failed JJ @ Jun 11 2019, 07:57 PM)
D-segment sedan usually 60L tank, B segment usually only 40L fuel tank. 60L divide 600km is about 10km per liter, 10km per liter is pretty bad if just highway drive I thinkĀ  sweat.gif
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I fully realize the tank capacity is bigger, bro. But that is exactly my point. It is bigger because they wanted to hit that sweet spot of 600km per full tank. Had it been the same capacity as honda city, the range would be around 400 km only.

I had an even bigger car before, a 4x4 with 3.8L V6... Also roughly 550 - 600 km per full tank. This car had about 7 km/l (combo) and up to 9 km/l (highway only).

So I am talking purely out of my own experience.

Besides, did I not say the Avanza 1.3 managed to hit 600 km on a full tank, with some balance to go? Avanza is definitely a different segment to my Accord.

Btw, I think 10 km/l is very good if you're driving a 5.7L V8 car like the landcruiser. They normally drink a liter every 5, 6 km or three about. So it's relative.

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Added from my own records:
Rented Tiida 1.8L - around 550 - 600 km per full tank (avg consumption: 13.057 km/l)
Owned 1996 Corona 1.6L - 550 to 700 km per full tank (avg consumption: 13.993 km/l)
Owned 2002 Sonata 2.4L - 400 to 600 km per full tank (worse car owned for city driving, mileage from absolute worse to best: 5.997 km/l to 12.565 km/l)

Second time edit
found 2 records for rented Alza: 12.865 - 15.584 km/l
condition: fully loaded with family and luggage, travel KL-JB and back, also some driving in town of KL & JB.
Don't really know the full tank mileage though, since the two samples would not represent real life scenario/condition.

This post has been edited by abu.shofwan: Jun 11 2019, 08:37 PM
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post Jun 11 2019, 08:50 PM

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The idsi city last time can achieve 600km on a full tank. But highway drive la. Mixed environment 500km is normal.
But as it ages if not maintain properly of cos fc gone bad
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post Jun 12 2019, 02:35 PM

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600km must be fully highway drive, with aircond off.
speed 70km/h.

This post has been edited by boonhan: Jun 12 2019, 02:35 PM

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