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KLthinker91
post May 25 2019, 12:00 AM

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His protest against the bell curve is valid

But to give them all the same score is stupid

He deserves to be misunderstood tongue.gif

QUOTE(azhan82 @ May 24 2019, 11:10 PM)
Prof Harney said the guidelines "are really rules - that no matter how many students do well, the number of As is strictly limited to a third of the class". And "artificially restricting their grades on a bell curve" was not his style of teaching, he added.

LEL .. ada kuota A rupanya biggrin.gif
Lai lai lai.. come yell meritocracy .. come come tongue.gif
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Kesian bodoh tak faham maksud bell curve

Memanglah meritocracy, bengap, yang terbaik dapat A, yang terburuk dapat C

Ni lah hasil budaya tongkat ni, camne nak maju, otak kat lutut sebab tu kena pakai tongkat
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post May 25 2019, 12:42 AM

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QUOTE(hotjake @ May 25 2019, 12:08 AM)
I'm very sure azhan82 understands bell curve. He was merely quoting one part and then giving his 2 singkie cents worth of sarcasm I think. Maybe I'm wrong, who knows
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He's just a racist fucking idiot that's all
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post May 25 2019, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(Newsray @ May 25 2019, 08:43 AM)
A curve is stupid because every year the students can be different.

If Lee Chong Wei playing years at peak was to have 20 players of Lin Dan's capability. LCW work rank and performance might be affected.

For a particular good year - a good student might not get an A while
for a bad year - an average student might get an A.

So both were to compete for a job (at least for first filter before interview) - that good student might not get a chance for interview.
Of course both will still get the interview - but chances might be lesser.
In term of bragging right - that would be unfair, haha.
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Yup

Same applies to employee performance appraisal which is most commonly on a bell curve

But this is nothing new, and everybody accepts the pros and cons of the method

He want to protest, it is his right, and I sympathise with his protest, but his method of doing it is utterly irresponsible, and a disservice to all the students in his class

Padan muka kena public reprimand

P.S. and whatever some jerkoffs may say, it is still a meritocratic process, the grades are given based on ability, nobody is being elevated because of bright future or tongkat or correct skin colour whistling.gif
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post May 25 2019, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(poooky @ May 25 2019, 10:23 AM)
He is fighting d good fightin increase awareness of one of d systems flaws. Even if student deserve A they r artificially held back to maintain uni reputation. This is most true these day when errbody can has paper degree. Uni act like cartel n restrict no. Of A given out to inflate d value.

Eduation is zillion dollar industry so ofc d uni quick to act to maintain "high STDs". Watajoke.
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Well he, you and others are correct to point out that the system is flawed. But that's the nature of things. There are pros and cons to everything. At this point, despite the cons, bell curve is the best possible method known to mankind, all said and done. Which is why it is also the most used method in employee performance appraisal.

But the way he protest in the end only brings disappointment to his class. He is just making a public protest which has no hope of success, and in the process his students' grades are delayed and they have to go through re-marking, there is emotional disappointment, etc.

Meanwhile he isn’t affected because he is leaving anyway and doesn’t care any more. And obviously he knows his future prospects are not affected by this stunt, that’s why he dares to do it. Plus he gets famous as the Great Rebel, the one who dares to speak up, and he gets the praise for it… at the expense of everyone else of course. Which is super selfish of him because he is the only winner in this story and everyone else is the loser.

Including his students he supposedly "cares" for.

In reality they are sacrificed so that he can get a cheap shot at glory.

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post May 25 2019, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(reed90 @ May 25 2019, 10:34 AM)
cukur ada tongkat

owai
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QUOTE(MAGAMan-X @ May 25 2019, 10:42 AM)
Fuwah Singapore also got quota man! Let's follow!
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Lol

Orang meritocratic tak nak ikut, orang tongkat mau ikut

This is nothing to do with tongkat or quota, jangan ingat dunia ni bodoh, malas dan tamak macam Malaysians
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post May 25 2019, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(MAGAMan-X @ May 25 2019, 11:15 AM)
Meritocracy is racist!! Capitalism is racist!!!

Let's go with socialism, Communism or feudalism! Those are the best systems there is, look at how awesome Russia and China has become because of Communism!
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^ lol bodoh Resmi Dutt whatever. Sounds like those fat feminists who anti "shaming" because they weigh 200kg

Ironically we are basically a socialist country

We have all the hallmarks of a Communist system but Malaysia style, that is justified with religion

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post May 25 2019, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(MAGAMan-X @ May 25 2019, 11:28 AM)
We're a capitalist country la, govt has to spend money to acquire companies that eventually becomes GLC, not GCs. that's why we're so racist.
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In a Communist country, the Govt runs the economy via it's GLCs. Economy is mainly decided by Govt decisions which industry to invest in, and the leaders of the industry are usually GLCs. There are few major 100% private players in the market.

Sound very familiar?

Unlike a capitalist country where a Govt has a more hands off approach, of course it does have policies which nudge the country one way or another, but it would not have such a major direct hand in investment etc.
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post May 25 2019, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(MAGAMan-X @ May 25 2019, 11:48 AM)
In commie country, govt OWNS the company, not link with company. The only way for govt not to own the company is if you jilat some commie leaders didi, give him a shitload of under table money, and maybe even allow them to tiap your wife then you get to own your own company.
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All of which is very familiar too no?

Our Govt does have significant holdings through MOF. Who controls (or at least is the dominant player) in the rice industry? Agriculture? Car? Heavy engineering? Defence? Telecoms? Not to mention the obvious - petroleum.
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post May 25 2019, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(reed90 @ May 25 2019, 01:07 PM)
LEL triggered

Look at yourself with all the hatred.
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It's not hate, it's love

I love my country and don't want to see it hurt, so I speak out and point out practices which destroy it

Some supposedly patriotic people only think of their own profit, so keep asking for tongkat
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post May 25 2019, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(MAGAMan-X @ May 25 2019, 04:06 PM)
Govt dipping its finger into some industries does not make it a socialist economy. Most businesses are privately owned. You're making the mistake of thinking the exception is the rule, it is not. E.g: just because there's Obamacare does not mean the US is a socialist country. Get it?
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Sure

But the question of whether an entity is capitalism vs socialism is not absolute; it is measured in degrees. A capitalist market is not 100% free, nor is a socialist market 100% command

Even the USSR at the very height of Communism obviously had some small degree of capitalism - there was still a system of buying and selling and investment in small mom and pop businesses

And even the USA, arguably world leader in free market capitalism, has some Govt owned businesses such as the infamous Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, and the US Post

And social welfare support of all types is socialist in nature. The more social welfare is provided by the Govt (paid for by taxes), the more socialist it is. See for example the famous Scandinavian country model.

So where does Malaysia lean to?

In terms of economy, well the Msian Govt is the single largest shareholder in Malaysia. It is a monopoly or effective market leader in several industries which I highlighted above. Through tight fiscal and regulatory policy it dictates who the players are and very strongly influences movement. It is not merely "dipping a finger" at all.

Plus of course for nearly all of Malaysia's history we have pursued a national policy of transferring wealth from the perceived rich to the perceived poor. Exactly as dreamed of in the Manifesto.

In this regard we are quite strongly a socialist country.
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post May 25 2019, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(MAGAMan-X @ May 25 2019, 04:44 PM)
A source must be reputable. Ideally it should also show how it derives the information.

What measurement is this ranking based on? Don't know

Who is "world population review"? Don't know

What makes this website more trustworthy than any Tan Din and Harith? Don't know

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