Good info here tho.
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QUOTE(ariesguy @ May 22 2019, 11:28 AM)
The idea of us to implement this is to enable us to have records for foreign tenants who are staying at our place. Without the relevant data, it is difficult for us to monitor the the foreign tenants who are renting at our place.
As a matter of fact, when we ask the owners to provide details on their foreign tenants, they wouldn't bother since they don't live here. For them, as long as they're getting the rental and the maintenance fee is paid, rest is least of a concern.
After going thru a turmoil with our previous Management company, we have just established on getting things back on track. Foreigners issues are considered as one of the major thing at our place, as we have had cases of harassment, stalking, extortion, drunk, fighting, threatening, late night party, expired student visa, overstay and even murder attempt. When we look into the percentage of cases that was filed by the residents at our place for the past 1.5 years, a very large number was pointing towards them.
Looking at all this, the thought of implementing this will enable us to have records of their credit checks, status verification & criminal records. It is also viewed from a prospect where if I have nothing to hide, I am confident of a background check. Hence, upon doing the check and results found satisfactory, it would be safe to assume that the foreigners who are staying here are generally acceptable. And in the event of any misconduct, we have details pertaining them if any authority approaches.
For info, this tenant background screening is practiced in many countries such as USA, Canada & The UK for landlords who would want to rent their property especially for an international tenant.
For the local tenants, we have no qualms as we generally do not have any issues in getting their particulars and they are typically cooperative. As such, you can see the need why we would want to implement this for the foreigners who are refusing to provide their actual details.
As a matter of fact, when we ask the owners to provide details on their foreign tenants, they wouldn't bother since they don't live here. For them, as long as they're getting the rental and the maintenance fee is paid, rest is least of a concern.
After going thru a turmoil with our previous Management company, we have just established on getting things back on track. Foreigners issues are considered as one of the major thing at our place, as we have had cases of harassment, stalking, extortion, drunk, fighting, threatening, late night party, expired student visa, overstay and even murder attempt. When we look into the percentage of cases that was filed by the residents at our place for the past 1.5 years, a very large number was pointing towards them.
Looking at all this, the thought of implementing this will enable us to have records of their credit checks, status verification & criminal records. It is also viewed from a prospect where if I have nothing to hide, I am confident of a background check. Hence, upon doing the check and results found satisfactory, it would be safe to assume that the foreigners who are staying here are generally acceptable. And in the event of any misconduct, we have details pertaining them if any authority approaches.
For info, this tenant background screening is practiced in many countries such as USA, Canada & The UK for landlords who would want to rent their property especially for an international tenant.
For the local tenants, we have no qualms as we generally do not have any issues in getting their particulars and they are typically cooperative. As such, you can see the need why we would want to implement this for the foreigners who are refusing to provide their actual details.
QUOTE(ariesguy @ May 22 2019, 01:09 PM)
Does this mean that JMC reserves all the rights to request for the foreign tenant profile and can take a copy of the documents (passport/letters) related to them? And if they still refuse, up to what extend can we go? Blocking access card can be an option?
I feel you guys have your heart in the right place but are going about it wrongly. Some perspective:
Without the relevant data, it is difficult for us to monitor the the foreign tenants who are renting at our place.
Does this mean that JMC reserves all the rights to request for the foreign tenant profile and can take a copy of the documents (passport/letters) related to them?
This answer is related. Yes JMC can and SHOULD have copies of all resident, tenant and owners, information. Its usually in the owners handbook. No need additional laws about this.
we have had cases of harassment, stalking, extortion, drunk, fighting, threatening, late night party, expired student visa, overstay and even murder attempt. When we look into the percentage of cases that was filed by the residents at our place for the past 1.5 years, a very large number was pointing towards them.
Thats terrible to hear, but the thing is all also can do this local or otherwise. Can you provide some info or statistics about this % of cases, seems interesting.
enable us to have records of their credit checks, status verification & criminal records.
When they come over, unless its on a tourist visa, their company/college would have done WAY more checking then we or the JMC can do. Again, gather the relevant ID, Visa, Employment/Student letter and the Tenancy agreement. The visa and the letter essentially tells you they have been checked.
I was an expat for a few years, they do ask alot of documents for my employment permit. And stay permit. And local tax registration. And domicile letter/Tenancy agreement. And bank account opening. And CC opening.
For info, this tenant background screening is practiced in many countries such as USA, Canada & The UK for landlords who would want to rent their property especially for an international tenant.
Thats not FULLY true. The background screening is done for all tenants of all types. If you do credit and police check on foreigners, you have to do it on on all tenants and future owners (since they are new residents, assume old residents are grandfathered in).
For the local tenants, we have no qualms as we generally do not have any issues in getting their particulars and they are typically cooperative. As such, you can see the need why we would want to implement this for the foreigners who are refusing to provide their actual details.
If im about to steal stuff, id be cooperative too with fake documents. Locals or not shouldn't influence your procedures. Also, anyone, foreign or otherwise, not providing their ID, faking their ID, or misrepresenting who is a resident can be dealt with with existing laws in your owners handbook.
*I assume a generally competent owners handbook of all the existing laws is present. If it isnt, you have a more urgent problem to look at.
So just ensure your ENFORCEMENT of existing laws. Maybe tweak it a little (like add the surat from company/uni) for all tenants. Have better entry screening and more security. Thats about as good as it gets besides going into immoral territory. As a plus, your place will naturally be safer from everyone for everyone!
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