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QUOTE(Spear2 @ Jul 22 2019, 01:54 PM)
Even Laurence Krauss admitted nothing is not complete nothingness, it's nothing as in empty space.
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For me it best just to keep things at singularity and nothing less. Postulating back further to 'nothing' invites too much controversies.
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QUOTE(Mea Culpa @ Jul 22 2019, 02:05 PM)
space must comes before time... else you cannot have quantum fluctuation.
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So it's not complete nothing, space has existed and it is this eternal space that was in dispute.
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jul 22 2019, 02:06 PM)
For me it best just to keep things at singularity and nothing less. Postulating back further to 'nothing' invites too much controversies.
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And the space is not expanding, the universe is. Space has been everywhere all the time.
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QUOTE(Spear2 @ Jul 22 2019, 02:09 PM)
So it's not complete nothing, space has existed and it is this eternal space that was in dispute.
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"space is infinite" is yet another one we cant prove.. assuming it can exist independent of time.

the problem is how do we define things if "law of physics break down".. ?
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jul 22 2019, 02:06 PM)
For me it best just to keep things at singularity and nothing less. Postulating back further to 'nothing' invites too much controversies.
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Singularity is another version of God but this one isnt religious.

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