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 Chubby Hamsters V5, Fun little furballs

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post Jan 1 2008, 05:31 PM

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Happy New Year people! Have some news:

1. I think Mini is not pregnant lah, haha. She doesn't look pregnant anymore and no pups also. I think she just getting fat, despite the nesting behaviour.

2. Bought Sanko wild wheel 21cm in Singapore!! MoFo is loving it! Got it bit cheaper than here, cost me RM55, hehe.

3. I LOST MY N95 8GB in Singapore. It was stolen. So sien. cry.gif
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post Jan 1 2008, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(missgeek @ Jan 1 2008, 05:31 PM)
Happy New Year people! Have some news:

1. I think Mini is not pregnant lah, haha. She doesn't look pregnant anymore and no pups also. I think she just getting fat, despite the nesting behaviour.

2. Bought Sanko wild wheel 21cm in Singapore!! MoFo is loving it! Got it bit cheaper than here, cost me RM55, hehe.

3. I LOST MY N95 8GB in Singapore. It was stolen. So sien. cry.gif
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cry.gif cry.gif Should have tumpang u to buy the Sanko wheel for my new member - Fumoffu. Too late now cry.gif cry.gif
Such a good news that Mini is not pregnant rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif You left them at home for how many days? I wonder what should I prepare for my 4 babies when I'm away hmm.gif hmm.gif
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post Jan 1 2008, 06:38 PM

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QUOTE(sangels @ Dec 30 2007, 04:42 PM)
Err... not mine. My Jack Jack is dark ruby eye. One of jack Jack's sibling - Shakira is having bicolor eye.

Also just got back from PD. There is an aquarium shop selling hamsters. Mostly all are golden and cream banded but there is 2 female sable banded about 2 months old from Johor. The owner of the shop is new to hamsters is breeding the 2 sables with a pure white syrian in the same small cage. All the hamster are fed with fish pellets shocking.gif  shocking.gif  shocking.gif

The 2 sables look like they are pregnant but not sure. Wanted to rescue the sable as their fur is nice and pure but the owner insist on selling both together. In the end just left without rescuing the sables as we are unable to take care of them if they are really pregnant and gave birth to 2 liters of hamsters cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif

The owner just use a ruler to poke the hamsters. shocking.gif  shocking.gif  shocking.gif

There is also a bin at the back of the shop with about 30-40 very young syrians about few weeks old. They all are malnutrition from the fish pellets.

New addition to the family - Sable banded without a name yet. Saw him in Giant Cheras just now. Very tame like Jack Jack wub.gif We think he is about 4 months old as he is slightly smaller than Jack Jack. He is temporary staying in Habitrail Safari until we get him a bigger home.

But why his testicles are big and saggy? sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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Congrates on the new addition to the family. So niceeeeeeee... smile.gif One thing I realised, syrians get tamer as they grow older. They are least freaked out of human if they are bigger... in my case, the babies got friendlier according to their sizes, haha. Since Mokie is the biggest when I got him, he is friendlier the quickest. But I think it applies to all animals... kittens are always bit cautious when they are small.

MoFo is a bicolor too... he has one pink eye and one dark ruby eye. smile.gif

By the way, the owner who poked with ruler must be bitten before! Served him right! I hope he gets bitten again!

This post has been edited by missgeek: Jan 1 2008, 06:50 PM
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post Jan 1 2008, 06:54 PM

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aiyaa..if i've waited, i can get mini from you. already bought one from petshack. laugh.gif

dark ruby eye or ruby eye? i thought that ruby eyed syrian is extremely rare.
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post Jan 1 2008, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(sangels @ Jan 1 2008, 06:01 PM)
cry.gif  cry.gif Should have tumpang u to buy the Sanko wheel for my new member - Fumoffu. Too late now  cry.gif  cry.gif
Such a good news that Mini is not pregnant  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif You left them at home for how many days? I wonder what should I prepare for my 4 babies when I'm away  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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Hmm I actually already replied to this, but my post is lost, haiyak.
Anyway, I just leave them for 2 days, I just leave enough food and water for the 2 days I am away. Came back at 2am and faster put more food and gave MoFo his new wheels. Heheh...
I got cheaper because got discount at the Pets Lover Center, if not same price also I think. When I went there, only 1 Sanko 21cm wheel left. Maybe cheaper at smaller petshop but i just saw only 1... but no 21cm wheel, just the 17cm sanko wheel there.


Added on January 1, 2008, 6:56 pm
QUOTE(sOuLx @ Jan 1 2008, 06:54 PM)
aiyaa..if i've waited, i can get mini from you. already bought one from petshack. laugh.gif

dark ruby eye or ruby eye? i thought that ruby eyed syrian is extremely rare.
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Hahaha, no worries smile.gif
MoFo is dark ruby I think... it doesnt look black but not also really red. So I think it's dark ruby on his right eye, pink on his left eye smile.gif
You have the pic of the one you get from petshack? hehehe... no regret getting from petshack... they do have good syrians. nod.gif


Added on January 1, 2008, 7:02 pm
QUOTE(sOuLx @ Dec 29 2007, 04:23 PM)
wondering why some hamster has yellow teeth?
i saw at carrefour wangsa maju, they put about 15 syrian in one tank. young syrians i think.pity them.
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Err, not sure if the sifus already answered this but I found this on the habitrail trivia tongue.gif
natural teeth color of hamsters are YELLOW. Hahahah, I also quite shocked when I first time saw MoFo very yellow teeth... LMAO.


Added on January 1, 2008, 7:15 pm
QUOTE(Reanne @ Dec 27 2007, 10:19 PM)
Hamsters naturally will gather soft and straw materials to build a nest whether they are pregnant or not. But this behaviour is stronger with pregnant individuals.
Ha? She doesn't separate the babies? What kind of owner is that? Later inbreed and she will have many problematic hamsters. My advise is to keep them separated. Trust me, you don't wanna breed, if they multiply, they will multiply like mad and you will be overwhelmed by the numbers. It's also not good for their health. The male may be related to the rest and pet stores get stock in mass and you never know if the hamsters inside the stock may be related to each other.
You should not let them go more than 3 days without food.
She looks very young and yes, she's a long haired. Actually, what I'm  going to say may sound cruel, but if she does birth any pups, it would be better to not let her raise her young. She is far too young to raise a litter on her own and it will permanently damage her growth and health. Nursing and raising a litter of pups takes a heavy toll on hamsters. Even an obese female hamster can become skinny before the litter is even weaned. That's why we emphasize on the resting between litters as they really need it. Even if she does birth just one or two, they may die as rodents need a larger number to stimulate their mammary glands. If the numbers are too few they may not produce sufficient milk. I have seen syrians that gave birth too young and they will either be stunted or have poor health and a short lifespan.

If you decide to let her raise them, she may become instinctive and cull the litter herself as some hamsters understand that their body is unable to take the strain and culling them is the best choice. But there are some individuals that have strong mother instincts and will raise the litter at the cost of her body and life.

She's a long-haired red-eyed cream banded by the way. Which is compromised of the black eyed cream and cinnamon gene.
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Thanks for the info reanne smile.gif As it happened she didnt give birth or she might have but she ate them when I was away for 2 days sweat.gif But I dont see any blood whatsoever, so it is still a mystery. But whatever it is, I am very glad she doesnt have babies too, more because of her sake than mine.

After few readings and reanne's info here, I gather that my babies are:

1. MoFo - Long hair cinnamon banded male syrian
2. Mokie - Long hair golden banded male syrian
3. Mobee - Short hair sable banded male syrian <-- but the sable like tak jadi, it's more brownish-greyish?
4. Mini - Long hair cream banded female syrian


Added on January 1, 2008, 8:59 pmOh my lord! I just discovered something about Mini. IT'S A HIM!!!!! LMFAO. For the first time I saw his balls! OMG. I never saw it before until just now!! Sigh. But it does look bit red tho... hmmm, could it be a tumor?

Mini was smaller than Mokie when I first got them, now they are about the same size and Mini's balls are bigger than Mokie. It looks like balls for sure but no hairs and red. sweat.gif

Now... I wonder if Mobee is really a male cos I can't see his balls yet. Err....

This post has been edited by missgeek: Jan 1 2008, 08:59 PM
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post Jan 1 2008, 11:11 PM

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mini did a sex transplant surgery during your away days.. laugh.gif just kidding

if it is a tumor, make sure you bring her to the vet.
if it is a sex organ,you have a boy.. dont make him a shemale.. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(sOuLx @ Dec 31 2007, 06:35 PM)
my syrian doesnt sneezes alot, today only one or two time when he woke up. not that often. maybe because of the bedding? i use only delikate right now.
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Is the breeding.... normal for the hamster to sneeze once or twice but if you see your hamster constantly rubbing and cleaning it's face and nose, means it is having a bad allergy already. That means you have to change the bedding to say corn cobs or Breeder's Celect.

QUOTE(dien @ Jan 1 2008, 12:36 AM)
just wondering..  blush.gif
is dried mealworm and mealworm same thing??

or dried mealworm is the one in cube size??

sorry for nob question..
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Dried mealworms look like normal mealworms

The cube one is tubifex worms.... cacing air, something like that.... smelly and is for fish ah, not hamster.

QUOTE(NewbieBetta @ Jan 1 2008, 12:38 AM)
dried 1 is less in nutrition bah for most food dried stuff ofcos is not tat good compare to fresh rite  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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Not everything dried has less nutrition. For certain fruits, dried extracts the water out, making it more dense with fiber and high in sugars.... that is for fruits lah. If for meat, a bit not so good coz it has to be dried with a bit of salt...

QUOTE(abang brother @ Jan 1 2008, 07:25 AM)
Guys, my syrian just got raped.. doh.gif D'oh.. What should i do next? And how to know whether she got pregnant or not?
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How did it happen?

QUOTE(missgeek @ Jan 1 2008, 05:31 PM)
Happy New Year people! Have some news:

1. I think Mini is not pregnant lah, haha. She doesn't look pregnant anymore and no pups also. I think she just getting fat, despite the nesting behaviour.

2. Bought Sanko wild wheel 21cm in Singapore!! MoFo is loving it! Got it bit cheaper than here, cost me RM55, hehe.

3. I LOST MY N95 8GB in Singapore. It was stolen. So sien. cry.gif
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QUOTE(missgeek @ Jan 1 2008, 06:54 PM)
Hmm I actually already replied to this, but my post is lost, haiyak.
Anyway, I just leave them for 2 days, I just leave enough food and water for the 2 days I am away. Came back at 2am and faster put more food and gave MoFo his new wheels. Heheh...
I got cheaper because got discount at the Pets Lover Center, if not same price also I think. When I went there, only 1 Sanko 21cm wheel left. Maybe cheaper at smaller petshop but i just saw only 1... but no 21cm wheel, just the 17cm sanko wheel there.


Added on January 1, 2008, 6:56 pm

Hahaha, no worries smile.gif
MoFo is dark ruby I think... it doesnt look black but not also really red. So I think it's dark ruby on his right eye, pink on his left eye smile.gif
You have the pic of the one you get from petshack? hehehe... no regret getting from petshack... they do have good syrians.  nod.gif


Added on January 1, 2008, 7:02 pm

Err, not sure if the sifus already answered this but I found this on the habitrail trivia tongue.gif
natural teeth color of hamsters are YELLOW. Hahahah, I also quite shocked when I first time saw MoFo very yellow teeth... LMAO.


Added on January 1, 2008, 7:15 pm

Thanks for the info reanne smile.gif As it happened she didnt give birth or she might have but she ate them when I was away for 2 days  sweat.gif But I dont see any blood whatsoever, so it is still a mystery. But whatever it is, I am very glad she doesnt have babies too, more because of her sake than mine.

After few readings and reanne's info here, I gather that my babies are:

1. MoFo - Long hair cinnamon banded male syrian
2. Mokie - Long hair golden banded male syrian
3. Mobee - Short hair sable banded male syrian <-- but the sable like tak jadi, it's more brownish-greyish?
4. Mini - Long hair cream banded female syrian


Added on January 1, 2008, 8:59 pmOh my lord! I just discovered something about Mini. IT'S A HIM!!!!! LMFAO. For the first time I saw his balls! OMG. I never saw it before until just now!! Sigh. But it does look bit red tho... hmmm, could it be a tumor?

Mini was smaller than Mokie when I first got them, now they are about the same size and Mini's balls are bigger than Mokie. It looks like balls for sure but no hairs and red. sweat.gif

Now... I wonder if Mobee is really a male cos I can't see his balls yet. Err....
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You didn't check Mini's sex properly? You don't need to wait for the balls to be noticeable. If you study the pictures for sexing a hamster closely, you would notice that the anus and genitals are closer for females and males are slightly further apart.

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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Jan 2 2008, 12:56 AM)
Is the breeding.... normal for the hamster to sneeze once or twice but if you see your hamster constantly rubbing and cleaning it's face and nose, means it is having a bad allergy already. That means you have to change the bedding to say corn cobs or Breeder's Celect.
Dried mealworms look like normal mealworms

The cube one is tubifex worms.... cacing air, something like that.... smelly and is for fish ah, not hamster.
Not everything dried has less nutrition. For certain fruits, dried extracts the water out, making it more dense with fiber and high in sugars.... that is for fruits lah. If for meat, a bit not so good coz it has to be dried with a bit of salt...
How did it happen?
You didn't check Mini's sex properly? You don't need to wait for the balls to be noticeable. If you study the pictures for sexing a hamster closely, you would notice that the anus and genitals are closer for females and males are slightly further apart.
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I DID! The holes WERE closer until I thot she was pregnant. Then no babies, the stomach area bit smaller and then wallah! BALLS. RED NON HAIRY BALLS.
But it doesnt matter if I was wrong smile.gif Because they are syrians and they are infact need to be separated anyway, so no harm done. It's not like they are dwarfs and missexing means you end up with pups, since they can live together. And the fact I am not a breeder and never intended to be one makes no difference at all... I am perfectly fine with all boys anyway. nod.gif

@soulx
Hahah, no... he will not be a shemale altho I will keep calling him Mini, lol. Too late for a name change and I love the name and it kinda suits him... Mini hamster with max balls, LMFAO.


Added on January 2, 2008, 3:22 pmOk sifus, I have another Q.

What is the color of Mobee? Is he a long hair or short hair?
When I first got him, he was about 4-6 weeks old... he has more brownish color (but I cant find brown banded syrians).
As he grows older... his fur became darker and you can see greyish blueish color coming out (head, body). He still has that brownish undercoat tho, on parts of his body. This a week old pics, he has more of that greyish-blueish tint now.

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PS: Crazymouse, you asked how it happened on the stolen phone right? Pickpocketed at Takashimaya sad.gif



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QUOTE(missgeek @ Jan 2 2008, 02:16 AM)
I DID! The holes WERE closer until I thot she was pregnant. Then no babies, the stomach area bit smaller and then wallah! BALLS. RED NON HAIRY BALLS.
But it doesnt matter if I was wrong smile.gif Because they are syrians and they are infact need to be separated anyway, so no harm done. It's not like they are dwarfs and missexing means you end up with pups, since they can live together. And the fact I am not a breeder and never intended to be one makes no difference at all... I am perfectly fine with all boys anyway.  nod.gif

@soulx
Hahah, no... he will not be a shemale altho I will keep calling him Mini, lol. Too late for a name change and I love the name and it kinda suits him... Mini hamster with max balls, LMFAO.


Added on January 2, 2008, 3:22 pmOk sifus, I have another Q.

What is the color of Mobee? Is he a long hair or short hair?
When I first got him, he was about 4-6 weeks old... he has more brownish color (but I cant find brown banded syrians).
As he grows older... his fur became darker and you can see greyish blueish color coming out (head, body). He still has that brownish undercoat tho, on parts of his body. This a week old pics, he has more of that greyish-blueish tint now.

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PS: Crazymouse, you asked how it happened on the stolen phone right? Pickpocketed at Takashimaya sad.gif
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y his eyes so sepet ??? sweat.gif
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QUOTE(missgeek @ Jan 2 2008, 02:16 AM)
I DID! The holes WERE closer until I thot she was pregnant. Then no babies, the stomach area bit smaller and then wallah! BALLS. RED NON HAIRY BALLS.
But it doesnt matter if I was wrong smile.gif Because they are syrians and they are infact need to be separated anyway, so no harm done. It's not like they are dwarfs and missexing means you end up with pups, since they can live together. And the fact I am not a breeder and never intended to be one makes no difference at all... I am perfectly fine with all boys anyway.  nod.gif

@soulx
Hahah, no... he will not be a shemale altho I will keep calling him Mini, lol. Too late for a name change and I love the name and it kinda suits him... Mini hamster with max balls, LMFAO.


Added on January 2, 2008, 3:22 pmOk sifus, I have another Q.

What is the color of Mobee? Is he a long hair or short hair?
When I first got him, he was about 4-6 weeks old... he has more brownish color (but I cant find brown banded syrians).
As he grows older... his fur became darker and you can see greyish blueish color coming out (head, body). He still has that brownish undercoat tho, on parts of his body. This a week old pics, he has more of that greyish-blueish tint now.

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PS: Crazymouse, you asked how it happened on the stolen phone right? Pickpocketed at Takashimaya sad.gif
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Oh, I was asking abang brother how did his hamsters mated, not bout your phone hehehe.... but thanks for telling.

Mobee is not a Sable, he looks like an umbros. Golden Umbros.... I think that is it.

He is long haired.

Is the colour something like this?

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how to differentiate umbros and banded syrian? look same to me
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QUOTE(sOuLx @ Jan 3 2008, 01:02 AM)
how to differentiate umbros and banded syrian? look same to me
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Nezumitaro has some very nice pictures of various coloured syrian >here<

I have extracted out the golden umbros & sable one

golden umbros banded
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sable banded
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(picture pinjam from nezu's post tongue.gif )

banded means with stripes of white, versus full colour (crazymouse picture of golden umbros is full coloured, not banded).
There is also other pattern such as dominant spot and roan.
You can see more syrian pictures on colour as well as pattern in this very nice website:
>>syrian hamster colour & pattern<<

QUOTE(missgeek @ Jan 2 2008, 02:16 AM)
What is the color of Mobee? Is he a long hair or short hair?
When I first got him, he was about 4-6 weeks old... he has more brownish color (but I cant find brown banded syrians).
As he grows older... his fur became darker and you can see greyish blueish color coming out (head, body). He still has that brownish undercoat tho, on parts of his body. This a week old pics, he has more of that greyish-blueish tint now.
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PS: Crazymouse, you asked how it happened on the stolen phone right? Pickpocketed at Takashimaya sad.gif
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I am just curious, since you have already misjudge Mini's sex, it is possible that Mobee is a long haired female?
Coz I asked Nezu before, and she explained that for long hair male syrian - the fur is very long one until like a moving ball of fur (i used to have 2 of these) but for long hair female, it is fluffy but will not grow as long as male. My momo is a long hair sable banded.
I am just wondering since your mobee fur looks longer than normal short hair syrian though.

momo wishing everyone happy new year! smile.gif
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oh... now i can see the different with umbros colour.
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what are those powder stuff u feed ur momo?
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QUOTE(NewbieBetta @ Jan 3 2008, 01:44 PM)
what are those powder stuff u feed ur momo?
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Organic vegetarian supplement. Usually I add some water and rolled it into a ball for momo. Sometimes, i just sprinkle on the vege and put at a side of the bowl. She likes it a lot. smile.gif
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u bought the supplement from nezu or at the petshop?
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u bought the supplement from nezu or at the petshop?
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I bought it from jtl at her petshop. smile.gif
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QUOTE(won @ Jan 3 2008, 01:54 PM)
Organic vegetarian supplement. Usually I add some water and rolled it into a ball for momo. Sometimes, i just sprinkle on the vege and put at a side of the bowl. She likes it a lot.  smile.gif
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rclxms.gif rclxms.gif My Jack Jack also like the Organic Vegetarian Supplement. I rolled it into a ball, he'll grab from my hand and run away wub.gif wub.gif
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wow.....syrian hammy looks cute
aready got WW.....my pearl one really cute.....like to 'grab' her a lot.....

thinking of getting a syrian......i like the long hair creamy color one.....like missgeek's Mini,lol
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i think i want to get the that organic supplement too for my Montee.
the thing is,i'm living at the end of s'gor laugh.gif..if the price is rm18, plus petrol and tolls..quite sakit for me .. biggrin.gif

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