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post Oct 10 2007, 12:45 AM

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QUOTE(jassicaskylpm @ Oct 10 2007, 12:40 AM)
How can i solve this problem?Vet got anywhere ? Hmm can those stone or like biscuit d thing <for biting solve this?
it keep biting for continuously  doh.gif  my robo other no such problem..its a almost 2yr old RC..
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Your hamster got overgrown teeth now? Give hard things to eat and chew.... not many hamsters would chew the mineral stone.... but many would chew on dog biscuits.

Vets can cut the teeth using special clippers if this happens lah.

What you mean keep biting continuously? Bite what?
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Oct 11 2007, 11:03 AM)
don't they sell chew sticks, dried fruits and nuts stuck on an ice cream stick for hammies to chew?
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Yups, there are chew sticks and hard snacks produced for hamsters. But not all would chew these.... when they get bored, they will chew the wire bars of cages to get out or as a habit.

QUOTE(lapsap @ Oct 11 2007, 11:21 AM)
hey i'm back with a syrian tat sort of active, keep running on the wheel whole night..
and this morning when i wake up, i found him sqweek here sqweek there, then later he stopped... then i try to put my hand in .. it sqwek again le.. why le?


Added on October 11, 2007, 11:52 ami also found out that he keep on store food, it is any signs for that? and if i give him too much will he be over fed?
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Some Syrians are vocal when they are in a new environment..... only be worried when it stops eating, looks lethargic, and have dull looking fur and eyes.

You won't overfed. Storing food is called Hoarding.... he is just keeping them in a safe place for later.
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post Oct 11 2007, 05:39 PM

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Cage is always like that.... that is why better not use cage, use tank mah.

You can go Pets Wonderland and find the wood chew sticks.... or go Pet Safari and get those hamster treats that look like sticks.
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post Oct 11 2007, 06:46 PM

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You can find those bottle that can hang..... we normally use plastic aquarium, then we burn a hole for the bottle.
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post Oct 11 2007, 08:25 PM

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Ahah.. cute robos. How tame are they since you bred them?
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Good lah. I got bad experience with both breeder and petshop.... so I never breed robos LOL.
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Last time I got a pair from a breeder.... he told me tame a bit lah.... but he wasn't truthful.... he sold me 1 old and 1 young.... I thought both same age.... both females anyway.... and the old one killed the young.... And the older one bites me till bleed..... and I read Robos really need to be in pairs, so I bought 1 from a petshop..... but didn't work out. And the petshop one is scared like crazy....

Conclusion, that was my last robo LOL.... maybe in future would get White Face lah.... but not now.
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post Oct 12 2007, 10:29 AM

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When people talk about Robo, then we talk about Robo, when people ask about WW or RC, we talk also.... many people just have those than Syrian.... anyway, Syrians are misunderstood coz big, some are bitey and unfriendly because petshops mishandle them.

About dwarf, they are more territorial and aggressive, yes lah but those that bite people hard and attack hands are petshop stock. All of the ones are bred are very good with people, only the odd 1 or 2 that likes to chase hands but never cause injuries or hurt. This is all coz of good breeding....

Even my Syrians are very good, got 2 long haired and 2 short haired.
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post Oct 12 2007, 10:13 PM

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Taming from petshop takes alot of hard work... but sometimes end up with unhealthy hamsters. Like those in Petsmore and Zoological shop.... so.... sickly..... I had experience getting from Petsmore, the hamsters died in 48 hours after I bought them..... so.... stay away from Petsmore if possible lah coz dunno what disease they have in there. Maybe they disinfect the tanks now but I don't wanna risk getting any infectious diseases to my hamsters.

Syrians, nah... I never breed Syrians coz they need alot of space if you wanna do it the right way. For now, I'm breeding and promoting Russian Campbells coz many people misunderstand this species. In their minds, all say this species is gila gila, bite and attack and can never be tame. Also, they got wonderful colours, so then it would be great to breed out rare colours and patterns.

Syrians, I like solid colours loh....
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You want Syrian, PM nezumitaro loh.... PM her yah, don't ask for sales here.

All I can say, her Syrians are TIP TIP good hamsters!!!
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QUOTE(lapsap @ Oct 12 2007, 11:59 PM)
hmn..  yup i only keep one syrian, was thinking should i let it breed or not cause i not sure if i have the time to do so.  i did have the problem of having bits of bedding end up in the water, but the water i change once evey 2-3days, wonder if is all right to be like tat. as for droppings he did throw his poop at one corner left lying around the cage was kuaci shells..
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If you breed, you must think of how many tanks you can have. Coz Syrians are solitary and you have to test the female if she is on heat then only can breed. And if she is not ready, she could hurt the male badly.... so do research first before breeding.

Anyway, you cannot leave the water in a bowl and change every 2 to 3 days. You have to change everyday if in a bowl coz bacteria breeds in still waters, and with wood shavings around, the bacteria build up is higher. This is why use bottle. If you put a bowl and bottle in the cage, of course it would drink from the bowl 1st. So train it. Use bottle, it is healthier and cleaner.


Added on October 13, 2007, 12:20 am
QUOTE(jassicaskylpm @ Oct 13 2007, 12:15 AM)
yeah,i know,but i heard from rena long ago..treats got many type..some r good..some wasnt doh.gif any recomend?
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The best treats are of course natural treats and dog biscuits.... but if say hamster treats, do not go for those with sugar or honey as some hamsters are sensitive to sugar, can get diabetes... don't go for cheap treats too. Look for those made of seeds.... I can't remember the brand but there are treats that are long in shaped that's made of different seeds....

This post has been edited by crazymouse_yyh: Oct 13 2007, 12:20 AM
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QUOTE(lapsap @ Oct 16 2007, 07:42 PM)
okay.. i switch to bottle de.. seems fine, but he always like to climb up to the bottle.. but just this morning i found out that he have one eye closed. it is alright?
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1 eye closed? Try to clean the eye using wet tissue.
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post Oct 17 2007, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(Cloudx @ Oct 17 2007, 09:42 AM)
Hamster experts..
If i separate the male and female do i need to place them so they cant see each other?
Coz my female hammy just given birth to 4 pups. I've separate the male to another cage but i place the cage near to each other. Some times i notice both of them are trying to bite the cage coz they wanna be together wub.gif
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You would only stress them if they are next to each other. The female may feel insecure, the male may just wanna get to the female to mate again. Put them in separate locations so the female can concentrate on her pups.
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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Oct 18 2007, 03:26 PM)
no, its green one...

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red one is harry hamster is it? harry is abit big, prestige small small..

haha won won ur bear bear eating, sure familiar hahahha..tongue.gif
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Aiyoh, red one is not Harry Hamster.... Harry Hamster is green lah.... Paler green while Prestige is dark green. Red one.... could be Habitrail.... Both brands equally good, Prestige is very healthy with fruits and herbs in it. Harry Hamster more towards pellets.... anyway, I like both brands heheheh.

QUOTE(LittleTeens @ Oct 18 2007, 04:07 PM)
crazymouse_yyh Do u noe this fella she even give her hamster WET BATH...She is also SYRIAN's LOVER!!!
http://www.malaysianbabes.net/forum/index....=syrian+hamster
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Goodness.. actually, it is not advisable to bath.... only bath your hamster if it is very very dirty and smelly... overall, hamsters are clean little animals, they can take care of their fur with sand bath and they groom themselves....

QUOTE(teruzawa @ Oct 18 2007, 09:22 PM)
hi everyone!
im a newbie here and this is my first post in lowyat.net forum biggrin.gif

i currently have 6 robos, one adult female, one adult male and 4 robo babies
they were born 3 and a half weeks ago and they seem to be very well and healthy (and super duper cute too!)
so now i have two cages where i put the mom and the babies in one cage, and the daddy in another cage
the problem is when i have to go out from the city for more than a night
i have to bring those two cages together with me in that sweet little car of mine  tongue.gif
so i'm thinking of getting an automatic food dispenser
any idea where could i get that?
i've tried to find in some shops but to no success

and i've been searching for the best bedding for my hammies
every shops that i went to, sell pine bedding and thats im currently using (and im not happy with that  blink.gif )
could you suggest to where i can find the best bedding (and not too expensive)?

thanks in advance!  smile.gif
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Well, food dispenser, you won't find a suitable one for hamsters.... mainly we have either for fish or for dogs.... and the one for dogs are just too big. I think you can find one for fish.... go to some place and ask for a food dispenser that is suitable for large fishes like Koi.... but it would cost you quite a sum too....

As for bedding, you can use Breeder's Celect..... Healthy Pet..... Back-2-Basics.... all this you can find at Pet Safari, BC you can get also at Pet Shack which is opposite Sunway Pyramid (Sunway Mentari)...

QUOTE(Acey @ Oct 18 2007, 10:33 PM)
Sick of Robos.. they are soooooooo damn wild you cant even play with them. If you ever hold one in your hand, one nanosecond later expect it to be on the floor
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Get another RC loh hahahah.... or a Syrian.

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QUOTE(Acey @ Oct 20 2007, 11:51 AM)
Eh.. you took 2 from me right taht time?
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Hahah... my RC from you still alive till now.... he really long life loh even after father so many pups.

QUOTE(jy14 @ Oct 20 2007, 12:51 PM)
Halo,

I'm cleaning up 2 of the cages for the robos today. I got BC and HP, can mix together to make the bedding ? Or just use 1 of it ?
Nezu: Need ur advice again on how to serve the fresh food to the hammy. Forgot to save up our convo previously.  sweat.gif
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you can mix both. No problem. I also mix BC with HP sometimes.

QUOTE(mailboxaie @ Oct 20 2007, 06:49 PM)
hi guys..

sowie to jump in suddenly...

wanna ask, where can i find food supplies in shah alam?

thx for ur help
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Shah Alam.... hmmm... I'm not familiar.... but small petshops won't have that many accessories.... large petshops like Pet Safari and Pet Family would have all that you need.
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QUOTE(babymoli @ Oct 23 2007, 05:07 PM)
Hahahaha... She even jump & climb out from the carrier when i was washing her cage. My friend was watching her & she told me to close the cage properly else scare Creamy one day escape.  tongue.gif  But nowadays she getting know me more. Everyday will call her name. Now she'll stop running wheel awhile then looks at me when i call her name. Sometimes even will walk to the door there & look at you.  laugh.gif  wub.gif
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HAhaha... so cute lah Creamy, my Ceasar's Brother and Jumpers don't choi me, they sleep whole day, only come to the door to look at me for food. Only Vanilla will come out when I call her a bit.

QUOTE(arren86 @ Oct 23 2007, 08:08 PM)
huh? how come creamy poo like cat one?
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LOL.... you didn't know hamsters can be trained that way?
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QUOTE(ReWeR @ Oct 26 2007, 05:17 PM)
May I ask all the hamster rearer here, is first time hamster mother really careless one and death of pups rate is high?

The story is like this, my friend go vacation so she give me a cage of hamster mother with 4 new born pups, everything seem fine at beginning except she look very tiring, and I never kacau them, i just continue gave foods and water, I try to gave her hard boiled egg but it really doesn't like to eat it tongue.gif

ok, after a few days I start to notice got ants crawling to the hamster cage, I chase them all away ... from outside the cage of course, I didn't kacau the mother, then I notice there's 1 pup is die, seem like not biting by it's mother ... more like just die in a natural way.

so the day after that, everyday there's one pup die, this time only i notice they die because not enough heat, coz their mom is very careless and forgot to sleep close to them ... she will sleep quite some distance with her child. after her children all die and only left 1, she seem very happy and relax and run around, even invite me to play with her ... and I notice the last pup is going to die because I think the mom not feeding it and not provide body heat to it.

until today I saw the mom sitting together with the last pup, that pup doesn't even move ... I suspect it die already, the mother still happily wander around and eat sleep like normal without notice why all her children dead and she didn't feed them ...

since I never rear hamster b4, this time I just temporary help my friend to take care of it, so I don't know is it normally hamster mother is like that? =_= she's very friendly to me but extremely firece to other adult hamsters which is in other cage. (coz sometime I bring other hamster near her cage to visit her ma .... haha) man ... she's fierce like want to kill other lovely hamsters, but I just bring them near the cage, so nothing is harmed  wub.gif 
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The female rejected the babies. Why? It could be she had no milk to give. But if she sleeps away from the baby, that means she is rejecting them. 1st time hamster mothers should never be moved around, you should never bring the cage from 1 place to another, even if you did not kacau it, the movement and new environment made the female lose interest in her young. Young mothers do not take stress easily as seasoned mothers.

If the female is less than 4 months old, then too young to be a mom, so her instinct may not have kicked in and no milk for the pups, that is why died.... this could be another possibility la.

But why did you bring another hamster near her cage? If you did this while she was nursing, you could be the one that drove her to neglect her pups coz she is concentrating on protecting her territory than nursing the young.
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QUOTE(ReWeR @ Oct 27 2007, 01:26 AM)
Thx for the reply, at first I also think she rejecting it ... but after my observtion, it's more like she try her best to take care of them, but she doesn't do it properly. For example she'll go out from the nest and play for like 1 hour then only go back ... by that time the baby might already die due to not enough body heat, I've heard some hamster need to have both father n mother take care the pups together ... I dunno is she belong to this breed or not. Until now she's still try her best to take care of the last dead pup, just that still come out to play a bit then only go back nest lar.

Talking about stress, she doesn't seem very stress, still very playful and happy when saw me, but I guess you might be right, the new environment might attract her to play instead of focus on take care her youngs. The female hamster I think definitely older than 4 months, but she did look like not enough milk already after few days feeding. I bring other hamster coz she seem lonely inside, so I bring her husband near her, mana tau her friendliness only apply for human only tongue.gif.
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That bolded part is not true. It is normal for them to go out of the nest to eat and do their own stuff before returning. The babies WILL NOT DIE because of that. I have been breeding so many type of rodents, and that doesn't happen. I mean, she cannot eat and pee and poo in the nest right? If you ask a human mother to eat, sleep whole day in bed with the baby nursing and in her arms, that mom also can go crazy if do it everyday. So females do go out of the nest to do other things a few times a day, sometimes leaving the babies 3 hours or more without their body heat.....

The rejected them coz no milk or no instinct to be a mother yet. Taking care means constantly making the next clean, pulling the babies in to the nest if they move out, sitting to nurse them and cleaning them. A female that rejects them can still have the urge to groom a pup but for nursing, she won't do it. If you look carefully, the if baby hamsters tummy has a white patch, means well fed and should be plump. Baby hamsters that are rejected would become wrinkly and skinny and die. A baby hamster can go on without milk for 2 days, then it would die on the 3rd or 4th day because of starvation....

Your biggest mistake was putting the "husband" in front of her when she had her babies. Do you know hamsters have very very short term memory? Even after separation for a day, they cannot recognize each other at all. This goes for gerbils and territorial rodents.

How do you know older than 4 months? They sexually mature at 2 months old..... but if she breed after she is a year, then that would cause birth complications and death too.


QUOTE(sogoatticus @ Oct 27 2007, 03:35 PM)
can i give cordial drink to hammpy?such as 'sirap'
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No you should not!!!!!!!! Common sense, sugar and artificial colouring and preservatives....


QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Oct 27 2007, 04:28 PM)
OMG!!! i found some ballons!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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huh? are u talking abou me??
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Yer.... so big... now how many gram?
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A panda dwarf is nothing more than a Mottled Russian Campbell..... it is just a name that petshops put so you would buy thinking they are special like pandas....
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QUOTE(NeaRDeatH @ Oct 29 2007, 11:25 AM)
n another question, can we mix different type of winter white in a cage?
i mean there are agouti, sapphire n pudding right?
n another one is wat happen if we breed :
agouti+sapphire = ??
sapphire+pudding = ??
agouti+pudding = ??

juz curious bout this
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Well... firstly, why wanna breed?

Anyway, the agouti and sapphire are original Winter White colours.... so if you breed 1 sapphire to 1 agouti, you will get agouti and sapphire babies. They are not different, just colour genetics same.

But never EVER breed pudding with any winder white colours. Why? Coz the pudding is a hybrid, a mixbreed of campbell and WW from years ago through breeding. If you breed a pudding with a normal WW colour, you can have both coloured babies but then their genes would be quite mixed up. There will be no pure WW line later, spoiling the linage.

QUOTE(blurjoey @ Oct 29 2007, 02:46 PM)
I just bought the Habitrail Safari yesterday for my 2 new robos. I notice the wheel have a long gaps in the middle. I'm scared they might get injured running the wheel.

I saw the wodent wheel and not sure whether can still can get this or not. Anyone can help or any ideas?
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Those won't hurt their feet. Original Habitrail products are safe.... but normally people would buy the Habitrail Mini for Robos coz it suits their size.

Wodent wheel? No one is selling Wodent Wheels that are of the right size in Malaysia.

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