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 VDroop... what izzit?, does it affect other brands too??

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post Jul 14 2008, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Jul 14 2008, 07:19 PM)
no/less droop = less life span of both mobo and cpu.
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so, the bigger the vdroop.. the healthier the mobo/cpu is?

my vdroop+vdrop = 0.125v doh.gif

bios-1.325v
idle-1.248v
load-1.200v
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post Jul 14 2008, 08:38 PM

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for non ocer yes, for ocer no. There are certain standards or protocol intel spec mobo has to follow i guess.
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post Jul 14 2008, 10:14 PM

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i guess for ocer, they have to find some 'balance' about vdroop..between shortening hardwares lifespan and get higest OCed cpu speed..
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post Jul 15 2008, 08:56 AM

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QUOTE(phunkydude @ Jul 14 2008, 08:21 PM)
so, the bigger the vdroop.. the healthier the mobo/cpu is?

my vdroop+vdrop = 0.125v  doh.gif

bios-1.325v
idle-1.248v
load-1.200v
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good la, your spikes to the cpu wont go above your bios set voltage of 1.325v laugh.gif

technically, and theoretically, it prolongs the mobo mosfets and cpu life span. when I said technically, and theoretically, at least that is what it is designed to do



QUOTE(matyrze @ Jul 14 2008, 10:14 PM)
i guess for ocer, they have to find some 'balance' about vdroop..between shortening hardwares lifespan and get higest OCed cpu speed..
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that is what ocing is all about tongue.gif

a balance laugh.gif
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post Aug 1 2008, 05:11 PM

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hey guysss

m not sure which one im suffering from....(vdrop/vdroop)
but on bios.....its 1.385v.....on windows its 1.325v
running e2160 on ip35e

how can i counter or reduce its effect?
tqs guyss

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post Aug 3 2008, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(lohwenli @ Jun 26 2007, 10:07 AM)
P=VI is to calculate power usage, specifically conversion from electricity to heat (which applies in almost all electrical devices). Although your description does explain a downside of vdroop, it does not explain accurately why it happens. Yes, a poorly designed board suffering severe vdroop will actually make the problem of overheating MOSFETs worse and worse, as the voltage drop (using V=IR) across overheated MOSFETs will result in a power loss and they will overheat more. And the more the MOSFETs are overheated the worse the voltage drop-a vicious cycle. Contrary to your explaination, current (I) can only be increase up to a certain point until the MOSFETs are working at full capacity-which would be limited by overheating (a safety feature of MOSFETs).
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P=I²R
P=V²/R will be better in explaination icon_rolleyes.gif

P=VI cannot calculate any load circuit

since V=IR , subsitude in P=VI, u will get it..

by the way, this give only 10% explanation, more and more i ned to learn by the way laugh.gif
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post Aug 3 2008, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(dro @ Aug 1 2008, 05:11 PM)
hey guysss

m not sure which one im suffering from....(vdrop/vdroop)
but on bios.....its 1.385v.....on windows its 1.325v
running e2160 on ip35e

how can i counter or reduce its effect?
tqs guyss
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post Aug 3 2008, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Aug 3 2008, 03:40 PM)
pencil tongue.gif
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huh? can one mer?? how.. i willing to learn.. thumbup.gif
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post Aug 4 2008, 02:05 PM

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anybody done pencil mod on ip35e?
i tink my cpuz is having some inaccurate reading
cuz even wen i push up to 1.55v.....it still says 1.325v
only everest is giving logical reading ..... 1.54v
so i guess my vdrop is jes 0.01......"i tink"
hehe
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post Aug 7 2008, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(dro @ Aug 1 2008, 05:11 PM)
hey guysss

m not sure which one im suffering from....(vdrop/vdroop)
but on bios.....its 1.385v.....on windows its 1.325v
running e2160 on ip35e

how can i counter or reduce its effect?
tqs guyss
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using software the value r not accurate u can try to measure it using the multimeter to get the exact value
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post Aug 8 2008, 08:23 PM

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QUOTE(chchyong89 @ Aug 3 2008, 04:21 PM)
huh? can one mer?? how.. i willing to learn.. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(dro @ Aug 4 2008, 02:05 PM)
anybody done pencil mod on ip35e?
i tink my cpuz is having some inaccurate reading
cuz even wen i push up to 1.55v.....it still says 1.325v
only everest is giving logical reading ..... 1.54v
so i guess my vdrop is jes 0.01......"i tink"
hehe
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go take a close up pic of your buck phase PWM, its a small little black chip just above the ram slots or near that area, the chip is about smaller then a 1 sen coin


you need a multimeter for the next step after u get me the pics

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post Aug 8 2008, 09:28 PM

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haiya...

easier if we go yumcha and u teach me at mamak theree
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post Aug 9 2008, 01:32 AM

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come la, im at Petaling Jaya brows.gif

later mamak fella wonder wtf are we doing, looking at mobo hahahah

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QUOTE(bryanyeo87 @ Aug 9 2008, 01:32 AM)
come la, im at Petaling Jaya brows.gif

later mamak fella wonder wtf are we doing, looking at mobo hahahah
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Touch mobo laugh.gif
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post Aug 9 2008, 03:26 PM

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they'll prolly say
"GEEEEEKKKKKKKKSSSSSSS~~"
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