Con cases is growing in LYn so did everyone thinking of middleman service?The concept is quite easy.

IDEA 1
1)Once deal confirm between seller and buyer,they contact us.
2)Once everything ok,seller post items to us.Buyer bank into us.
3)After checking parcel and the 2 side confirm.Items will be send to the buyer and seller gets his money.


IDEA 2
1)Once deal confirm between seller and buyer,they contact us.
2)Once everything ok,buyer bank in to us.Once we got that bank in,seller can post the item.
3)Once buyer satisfy and no refund,money will be bank in into seller's account.

Only suggestion,what you all think?Purpose to cut down con cases.

You do know the middleman will take a 5-10% commission on top of that probably will only do deals that amount to 500 or more?

Err...i mean lyn member did that or maybe me myself do that....we dont nid such high commision...only around rm10 for per item lol...

What IF the middleman runs away with BOTH the $$$ and the item?

The service is unnessary and waste $$ and time.

Thats why we need safet trader in it lol...

even safe trader can run..

I dont mind being a middleman....
RM10/item is very good price

Ya...quite good price....Later can add COD service lagi!!!

safe trader also can run away lar...

Quite a headache since most ppl cant trust it...Maybe situating each trader in each state to make the deal fast and secure...

Better to research, follow common sense n finally hope for good luck. Cuz that's what life is all about.

This idea itself 'll just bring more headaches 4 whole community & on top of that tryin' 2 make $$ just coz havin' the Safe Trader's tag.

And @ same time, the tag doesnt guarantee anythin' hence it's way better if were 2 follow wht RangerRed said

easy lol...buyer COD with the seller..if not satisfied, don't handed the seller cash...

how about if the middleman is conman himself...??!! just trust ur gut la better...and do some reserch on seller before purchase something from him/her.....why la now days ppl easily get con??

don't have to waste $$$ on middleman if buyers learn to exercise some common (conman) sense in the first place.

middleman issue is just like pushing the dirt under the carpet - the problem is still there.

why there is middleman? there is profit...deal direct with seller...less hassle...

This post has been edited by TheXxBestxX: Jun 24 2007, 01:16 AM

Since it's obvious dis idea doesnt bring any gd 2 Lowyat, time 2 close as it leads 2 nowhere

rm 10 charge for item rm10........

what about RM 10 charge for RM 5 item??...buy some LED from bombman for example....

Err...if count 20% and max is RM10?

lol depends on item lah!!! haha gosh if your guys maybe think of that thing is necessary to use 'safetrade' then use it and pay loh... no ppl will force u to buy a papernate pen at rm1 and pay rm10 for safe trade lol!

maybe for items more than rm100 or sth higher which is necessary to use safe trade juz in case of con case happens

middleman might run but most probably high posts or admin of lyn won run bah... before becomin a middleman also at least maybe leave all initial details and copy of i.c. or anything so that they wont run lah... who wan to run to thai or indo juz becuz of a maybe less than 10k items?? lol!!!since got all those details and lost item it would be a police case then...

but sometimes middleman might be unlucky till then parcel reaches empty... and thats when the real trouble begins for the middleman liaw... hard to say man....

It might be useful on first thought but to be honest, there are also some pros and cons..

First of all, it would be troublesome if it goes so many ways around. Try to imagine people here are purchasing things because they are cheap. It might be hard for them to pay something extra to someone that they doesnt know in the first place for their service..

Besides, there is also a risk and more extra charges for posting items. It goes 2 ways now which is from Seller --> Middleman and from Middleman --> Buyer. That doubles the risk of posting fragile item and not to forget, paying EXTRA again as well..

Time is also a factor now which leads to you needing to wait longer to get the item.

Safest thus far is still COD. It is always known to have risk buying items online. There is also risk even buying directly from shop. Its up to the buyer whether they know what to do or not in the first place. Still better to look closely and research before purchasing anything..

who wants to con RM5 lah?


How about 10% of the item price?

We'll then need someone to police the middlemen. Besides the added cost per transaction (to pay the middleman, extra postage) its all too inconvenient.

without middleman - 2 way communication
with middleman - 4 way communication

if anyone's paranoid about delivery, use good ones like DHL or FEDEX.

not every forumer so free to be middleman, if charge more for commisen, then 2 party complaint, if charge less commisen, middle man dont want do..
hard ler.

Am curious as to how responsibility is arranged? Suppose the middle did the research n checks on the seller a feels that the seller is trustable. He tell the buyer send the money. Collects his 10% comm. Seller runs off. Does the middleman reimburse the buyers 1st then tries to collect back the money from the run away buyer or does he pay back some n does the same or does he just tries to get back the money with giving any refund to buyer (including his comm.)?

huh?

It works like this

1. Buyer and seller contact middleman for details of transaction.
2. Seller post the item to middleman, upon receving item, middleman contact buyer to make payment (or can make payment 1st if scare buyer ffk)
3. Upon receiving payment from buyer and receiving item, middleman send item to buyer.

Graphical illustration from www.lelong.com.my


Or LYN Admin can contact lelong admin to arrange for partership

This post has been edited by WaCKy-Angel: Jun 26 2007, 04:29 PM

Well, what they are suggesting is, when a deal is done, the buyer will send his money to the middleman and the seller will also send the stuff to the middleman.

In this sense, the middleman will have both the money and stuff. Therefore, when both reaches the middleman's hand, he will then proceed to send the item to the buyer and the money to the seller.

It makes sense to be safe in one part but does not if you think about it closely. Good monitoring will be needed, cost a lot more, takes more time and doubles the security risk. If the middleman would run away, 2 party will be at risk..

So if the item is sealed(packed up) how is the middleman gonna verify it?

Another prob could be an arguement the damage of a item when it reaches the buyer or that it was missing some parts.

Like akachester it would take more monitoring than nesserary.

This post has been edited by RangerRed: Jun 26 2007, 10:43 PM

The correct term for something like this is 'escrow'.