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post Apr 27 2019, 09:24 AM, updated 4 months ago

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https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidkiley5/20...n/#14dfbadaceec

From.the above article, this was mentioned:

"A big challenge is that the Nissan brand, does not command particular strength or loyalty outside of Japan. Rivals Toyota and Honda are known for quality, reliability and fuel economy innovation in a way that Nissan just isn’t. The company’ vehicles, therefore, often require heavier incentive spending to move volume than Honda or Toyota. Nissan’s luxury brand Infiniti is also a perennial underperformer."

Agree?
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post Apr 27 2019, 10:29 AM

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My spouse family use exclusively nissan cars.

Nissan Latio almera cefiro teana x trail

IMHO
Fuel saving yes
No power also yes
Expensive parts yes. Easily broke down parts also yes.
Appearance not appealing also yes

If you are a standard day to day or family man driver Nissan is for you. If u are a spirited driver then this car is not for you

I have a Honda city myself. I liked it more than their sedan.

Overall its a no to Nissan for now.

But u should paultan the image of up and coming nissan that is gonna replace almera sylphy and American teana. Those look really beautiful interior and exterior. I will definitely test drive and consider trade in my Latio if its on par or better than Honda

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QUOTE(Jedi @ Apr 27 2019, 10:29 AM)
My spouse family use exclusively nissan cars.

Nissan Latio almera cefiro teana x trail

IMHO
Fuel saving yes
No power also yes
Expensive parts yes. Easily broke down parts also yes.
Appearance not appealing also yes

If you are a standard day to day or family man driver Nissan is for you. If u are a spirited driver then this car is not for you

I have a Honda city myself. I liked it more than their sedan.

Overall its a no to Nissan for now.

But u should paultan the image of up and coming nissan that is gonna replace almera sylphy and American teana. Those look really beautiful interior and exterior. I will definitely test drive and consider trade in my Latio if its on par or better than Honda
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Thanks for this info sharing....Your spouse's family repeated buying from Nissan suggest something they do must have works. My impression was they trade in at the best value.sometimes even out of the way
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post Apr 27 2019, 12:05 PM

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forget about Nissan, for what they did to Ghosn
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Nissan's engineering sucks big time now. It is difficult to get the car repaired without having to dismantle many parts.


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Tcm only have one car to sell now:serena
Where the only competition is recond Toyota.




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post Apr 27 2019, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(Jasonist @ Apr 27 2019, 12:05 PM)
forget about Nissan, for what they did to Ghosn
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Should I forget about Renault or Mitsubishi too. Since they are also connected?
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QUOTE(Thrust @ Apr 27 2019, 12:08 PM)
Nissan's engineering sucks big time now. It is difficult to get the car repaired without having to dismantle many parts.
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Sounds very continental like....hmmmmm....

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QUOTE(fireballs @ Apr 27 2019, 12:10 PM)
Tcm only have one car to sell now:serena
Where the only competition is recond Toyota.
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So you also have no faith with the FL X-Trail?
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Apr 27 2019, 12:34 PM)
So you also have no faith with the FL X-Trail?
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Half the price maybe. At that price rather go crv or x70
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NISSAN used to be good in the 80's with their best selling Nissan 130Y sunny and Bulubird. After that they became pretty lame til today.

Will I buy Nissan again? nope. Never again.
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Bring back the Silvia and Pulsar GTI-R then Nissan will be great again. 😀
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In good faith, yes it's not a powerful car. It's also not for those who don't know how to care for their car. It's a lack luster car with boring design. Parts are hard to dismantle especially the AC design. Cabin air filter so difficult to reach.
Example my Almera, I say if u can skip the SC and service with better EO, the car on highway speeds of 140kmph is actually nicer to drive than 120kmph. Full tank can make it from KL-Penang and back.

General maintenance is actually cheap. EO only 3lit. ATF 3lit too. Car serve it's purpose. No fancy mechanism. Spacious.

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QUOTE(empire @ Apr 27 2019, 03:28 PM)
NISSAN used to be good in the 80's with their best selling Nissan 130Y sunny and Bulubird. After that they became pretty lame til today.

Will I buy Nissan again? nope. Never again.
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From Sunny Blue bird to lame ducks? LOL.

They almost went bust before they were rescued by Renault circa 1999, 20 years ago.

Yikes. I have just realized you are referring to cars made easily 40 years ago.
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QUOTE(Jessieccy @ Apr 27 2019, 03:58 PM)
In good faith, yes it's not a powerful car. It's also not for those who don't know how to care for their car. It's a lack luster car with boring design. Parts are hard to dismantle especially the AC design. Cabin air filter so difficult to reach.
Example my Almera, I say if u can skip the SC and service with better EO, the car on highway speeds of 140kmph is actually nicer to drive than 120kmph. Full tank can make it from KL-Penang and back.

General maintenance is actually cheap. EO only 3lit. ATF 3lit too. Car serve it's purpose. No fancy mechanism. Spacious.
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So you skip SC altogether?
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Nissan , is just a car. Full stop.
haha..
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happened to stumble upon a nissan cefiro..year 2000...going for RM10k+...a 3.0 VIP brougham....good?.. or nay?
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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Apr 27 2019, 03:39 PM)
Bring back the Silvia and Pulsar GTI-R then Nissan will be great again. 😀
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QUOTE(chemistry @ Apr 27 2019, 11:08 PM)
Nissan , is just a car. Full stop.
haha..
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I am surprised so far no one even talk anything about LEAF when their own survey said one in three SEA consumers is open to buying EV

https://asia.nissannews.com/en/releases/one...ng-electric-car

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Speaking of SEA, is this still not a wake up call for Nissan?

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/mits...p-se-asia-sales

https://www.vir.com.vn/mitsubishis-ambition...cars-63805.html

Why Nissan is still lagging behind Mitsubishi , what is wrong with them?

Are they still losing money? Because as far as TCM is concerned, they have been....

https://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...elcB5iJtzyPc.99

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https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...ion-in-da-nang/

https://www.carlist.my/news/tcil-opens-firs...pan-asia/55633/


I don't believe in coincidence, do you? Malaysia again gets no love from tan chong

A sad reminder of how great they were 6 years ago.


https://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...hard-this-year/

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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Apr 28 2019, 06:44 AM)
I am surprised so far no one even talk anything about LEAF when their own survey said one in three SEA consumers is open to buying EV

https://asia.nissannews.com/en/releases/one...ng-electric-car
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I don't care at all about those EV or hybrids nonsense. Just give me gasoline and lots of power and I'll be happy! 😂
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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Apr 28 2019, 08:11 AM)
I don't care at all about those EV or hybrids nonsense. Just give me gasoline and lots of power and I'll be happy! 😂
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But in the EV world they were regarded as the pioneer. So far not even any one have even mentioned that, even the Forbes guy.

Still, it may not be something you care about I reckon, neither do Nissan really ....Look at their bloody dated websites.



https://www.nissan.com.my/vehicles/leaf/overview
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Apr 28 2019, 08:20 AM)
But in the EV world they were regarded as the pioneer. So far not even any one have even mentioned that, even the Forbes guy.

Still, it may not be something you care about I reckon, neither do Nissan really ....Look at their bloody dated websites.
https://www.nissan.com.my/vehicles/leaf/overview
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Nissan hasn't made any exciting cars in the last decade or so except the GTR. Then their quality also drops, maybe due to being taken over by Renault? I will not buy any Nissan anymore, at least not in the next 3-5 years if they continue making boring mediocre cars like now.
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Apr 27 2019, 10:20 PM)
So you skip SC altogether?
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No, I waited till after 3yrs warranty.
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QUOTE(fastreader @ Apr 28 2019, 04:00 AM)
happened to stumble upon a nissan cefiro..year 2000...going for RM10k+...a 3.0 VIP brougham....good?.. or nay?
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Fuel guzzler! Avoid at all costs!
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3000cc road tax a year will kill you. Go check how much la then you will know.
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Apr 28 2019, 06:44 AM)
I am surprised so far no one even talk anything about LEAF when their own survey said one in three SEA consumers is open to buying EV

https://asia.nissannews.com/en/releases/one...ng-electric-car
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To sell ev car like hot cakes car makers must ensure the battery is reliable, durable, and affordable. I think many potential buyers are deterred by battery warranty and price. Not to mention ev uses a lot of new technology different from conventional petrol car, which people are very concerned with the spare part price and availability.
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QUOTE(chemistry @ Apr 28 2019, 12:27 PM)
To sell ev car like hot cakes  car makers must ensure the battery is reliable, durable, and affordable. I think many potential buyers are deterred by battery warranty and price. Not to mention ev uses a lot of new technology different from conventional petrol car, which people are very concerned with the spare part price and availability.
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I don't expect hot cakes status. Perhaps EV is still beyond reach and practicality , but how about PHEV, what I don't understand about Nissan is. Having acquired a large stake in Mitsubishi, they have yet to reap into PHEV tech of Mitsubishi who happens to make the best selling PHEV SUV in the world.

My thought is either it was all Ghosn's doing? Nissan becomes a reluctant investor.

Nissan all over the world is doing bad in sales, it seen down , down with no signs of recovery: North America, Europe and Asia ex Japan
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https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/nissan-pr...-083601118.html

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post Apr 28 2019, 04:41 PM

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Nissans make uninspiring cars.

For a while one of the best Nissans were the Micra that was built in Sunderland, really bread and butter car that proved Britain could make a good and reliable car, sold by the shiploads all over EU. Then came the cost-cutting and subsequent Micras weren't that good.

Personally, if I were to buy a Japanese car it would be a Honda or Mazda over a Nissan especially in our domestic market. Most of the Nissans here feel like cars made by a company that only wanted to earn money, none of the products offerings speak of any pride or passion in the products they sold, just plain shit junks.
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QUOTE(Jedi @ Apr 27 2019, 10:29 AM)
My spouse family use exclusively nissan cars.

Nissan Latio almera cefiro teana x trail

IMHO
Fuel saving yes
No power also yes
Expensive parts yes. Easily broke down parts also yes.
Appearance not appealing also yes

If you are a standard day to day or family man driver Nissan is for you. If u are a spirited driver then this car is not for you

I have a Honda city myself. I liked it more than their sedan.

Overall its a no to Nissan for now.

But u should paultan the image of up and coming nissan that is gonna replace almera sylphy and American teana. Those look really beautiful interior and exterior. I will definitely test drive and consider trade in my Latio if its on par or better than Honda
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I drove a Syplhy before, fuel consumption low and powerful.

Not sure about the parts.

Not appealing? Depends on people.
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QUOTE(empire @ Apr 28 2019, 11:44 AM)
Fuel guzzler! Avoid at all costs!
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Not only was it guzzling but it would seemed like there's a big hole at the fuel tank too !!! LOL

With today's fuel prices, I doubt people would want this car even if it was given away for free.

Having said that, its one hell of a ride that Brougham provides during that time.
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As a fellow owner, i would say parts quality is shit. Maybe perodua parts last longer than nissan.

And as someone mentioned before, to change smthg, u have to take apart a lot of things.
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Apr 28 2019, 04:29 PM)
No surprise.
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QUOTE(empire @ Apr 28 2019, 11:44 AM)
3000cc road tax a year will kill you. Go check how much la then you will know.
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i'm in East malaysia...so the road tax is halve of west malaysia... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

yeah, i'm more concern on the parts should it require any replacement... fuel guzzler is part of "accepted risk"..

i'm still considering it...its more of a "heart over mind" decision.. tongue.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Apr 28 2019, 05:43 PM)
Not only was it guzzling but it would seemed like there's a big hole at the fuel tank too !!! LOL

With today's fuel prices, I doubt people would want this car even if it was given away for free.

Having said that, its one hell of a ride that Brougham provides during that time.
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this is encouraging...and devilishly tempting comment!!! tongue.gif brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif
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QUOTE(fastreader @ Apr 28 2019, 08:09 PM)
i'm in East malaysia...so the road tax is halve of west malaysia...  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif

yeah, i'm more concern on the parts should it require any replacement... fuel guzzler is part of "accepted risk"..

i'm still considering it...its more of a "heart over mind" decision.. tongue.gif tongue.gif
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3000cc V6 engine that can even power a small airplane..

what you waiting for hehe..
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QUOTE(Kitty_catts @ Apr 28 2019, 06:44 PM)
As a fellow owner, i would say parts quality is shit. Maybe perodua parts last longer than nissan.

And as someone mentioned before, to change smthg, u have to take apart a lot of things.
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good point! Nissan spare parts are shit! Only mad people will buy Nissan. rclxms.gif
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Yes Perodua parts last a lot longer than Nissan parts too. if people still wanna buy Nissan, go ahead la. let them suffer and go through hell.
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Bad news from USa

......Nissan's more immediate problem was with the continuously variable transmissions it uses in its vehicles. Nissan said it has earmarked an extra ¥66 billion ($590.5 million) to extend warranties to seven years, from five, on CVTs used in certain U.S. models.

The campaign covers more than 3 million vehicles sold from 2012 to 2017, including the Sentra, Versa and Altima sedans, Karube said. The CVTs begin to rattle and vibrate with age.


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I am not surprised, because if you actually read through the Nissan FB comments got quite a group of unhappy customer from X-Trail and Serena C26 had issues With their CVT. But today I read something about improved CVT durability in the facelift X-Trail video drive review in Paultan.

On the side note... It seems official from TCM, no more Teana. Focus on SUV than D segment.
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QUOTE(Jessieccy @ Apr 29 2019, 09:26 PM)
I am not surprised, because if you actually read through the Nissan FB comments got quite a group of unhappy customer from X-Trail and Serena C26 had issues With their CVT. But today I read something about improved CVT durability in the facelift X-Trail video drive review in Paultan.

On the side note... It seems official from TCM, no more Teana. Focus on SUV than D segment.

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Then the offering would be thinning....No Kicks, so no HRV fighter, no accord or Camry fighter, and not interested to fight CIVIC or Altis.

Going full sub line up also not there with one X trail
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Apr 30 2019, 11:33 AM)
Then the offering would be thinning....No Kicks, so no HRV fighter, no accord or Camry fighter, and not interested to fight CIVIC or Altis.

Going full sub line up also not there with one X trail
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Yeah not blaming TCM entirely, but Nissan itself don't have much special design or features to compete with the rest. If Malaysia unable to CKD, price wise they can't compete at all. If let's say we can CKD also, it will take years, new techs will be out by then. Sad really. I'm hoping the Expander comes in at least to join in affordable people carriers. Since Proton Ertiga discontinue as well.
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next year upcoming model to the rescue , all new nissan almera with 1.0tebu and nissan kicks

https://www.funtasticko.net/risik-etcm-baka...n/#.XMfOunmP6Uk
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Forget the silly Nissan. Go for Toyota or Honda. You cant go wrong with these 2 Japanese heavyweight brands..
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QUOTE(destee88 @ Apr 30 2019, 12:28 PM)
next year upcoming model to the rescue , all new nissan almera with 1.0tebu and nissan kicks

https://www.funtasticko.net/risik-etcm-baka...n/#.XMfOunmP6Uk
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You have missed LEAF that was also reported to come soon....

But most already run out of patience with what is supposedly arriving but never had.
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QUOTE(empire @ Apr 30 2019, 12:37 PM)
Forget the silly Nissan. Go for Toyota or Honda. You cant go wrong with these 2 Japanese heavyweight brands..
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Toyota RAV4 ada mari kah?
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let's wait for a mitsubishi expander rebadge to livina. hope they can fight back. getting bored with T & H offering

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QUOTE(Jedi @ Apr 27 2019, 10:29 AM)
My spouse family use exclusively nissan cars.

Nissan Latio almera cefiro teana x trail

IMHO
Fuel saving yes
No power also yes
Expensive parts yes. Easily broke down parts also yes.
Appearance not appealing also yes

If you are a standard day to day or family man driver Nissan is for you. If u are a spirited driver then this car is not for you

I have a Honda city myself. I liked it more than their sedan.

Overall its a no to Nissan for now.

But u should paultan the image of up and coming nissan that is gonna replace almera sylphy and American teana. Those look really beautiful interior and exterior. I will definitely test drive and consider trade in my Latio if its on par or better than Honda
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Not really, There is the GTR and fairlady....
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QUOTE(leon898 @ Apr 30 2019, 04:24 PM)
let's wait for a mitsubishi expander rebadge to livina. hope they can fight back. getting bored with T & H offering
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Perhaps move over to Mazda would be less of a wait. It could be a very long while waiting for this whole business of Nissan gang up with Mitsubishi to infighting with Renault to resolve and move on

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I view it that the reason Nissan isn't successful here is because of the distributor.

Mostly focused on bottom of pyramid cars when the market had moved on.

Wish they would bring in the Qashqai and Juke. Definitely would be a CHR, HRV and possibly even a CRV fighter.
Qashqais are among the consistently best selling cars in EU.

For Japanese cars, I will pick a Mazda these days.
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QUOTE(Bjorn1688 @ Apr 30 2019, 05:02 PM)
I view it that the reason Nissan isn't successful here is because of the distributor.

Mostly focused on bottom of pyramid cars when the market had moved on.

Wish they would bring in the Qashqai and Juke. Definitely would be a CHR, HRV and possibly even a CRV fighter.
Qashqais are among the consistently best selling cars in EU.

For Japanese cars, I will pick a Mazda these days.
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Qahsqai is decidedly Europe. Juke is replaced by Kicks for good. Mazda is really the only Japanese brand that has made and continuing to make great strides. I find smaller sized brands a lot more offensive these days, even Subaru
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Kicks delayed from 2h 2018 or 2h 2019 now mentioned as 2020 along with new Almera. LOL
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Use as family car and it serve the purpose well.
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Apr 30 2019, 04:33 PM)
Perhaps move over to Mazda would be less of a wait. It could be a very long while waiting for this whole business of Nissan gang up with Mitsubishi to infighting with Renault to resolve and move on
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already debut in Indo. Not in design stage anymore. For me Mazda is good too.
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already debut in Indo. Not in design stage anymore. For me Mazda is good too.
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QUOTE(Jessieccy @ Apr 29 2019, 09:26 PM)
I am not surprised, because if you actually read through the Nissan FB comments got quite a group of unhappy customer from X-Trail and Serena C26 had issues With their CVT. But today I read something about improved CVT durability in the facelift X-Trail video drive review in Paultan.

On the side note... It seems official from TCM, no more Teana. Focus on SUV than D segment.
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U believe paultan, then pigs can fly. Knn they makan sponsor from Nissan, how to tell the truth?
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Then just don't believe. I am very sure you won't buy a CVT from Nissan in future. Better stick to conventional AT transmission.
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QUOTE(Jessieccy @ May 2 2019, 09:47 PM)
Then just don't believe. I am very sure you won't buy a CVT from Nissan in future. Better stick to conventional AT transmission.
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I using Toyota Sienta that uses cvt. And yes, I will nvr buy a Nissan unless its Cefiro, or Skyline or Sylvia. My father using Nissan Slyfly that uses cvt, every 20k km change gearbox oil and put in additive to protect it also Kong. Got a quote to change by Nissan at RM8k. The car is only 4yrs old and just out of warranty. Lj Nissan!

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QUOTE(gld998 @ May 3 2019, 06:13 AM)
I using Toyota Sienta that uses cvt. And yes, I will nvr buy a Nissan unless its Cefiro, or Skyline or Sylvia. My father using Nissan Slyfly that uses cvt, every 20k km change gearbox oil and put in additive to protect it also Kong. Got a quote to change by Nissan at RM8k. The car is only 4yrs old and just out of warranty. Lj Nissan!
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why 4 years old out of warranty oledi? I thought Nissan warranty is 5 or 7 years
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QUOTE(matrix88 @ May 3 2019, 10:56 AM)
why 4 years old out of warranty oledi? I thought Nissan warranty is 5 or 7 years
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Earlier ones is 3yrs only. Either way no more new Nissan for my family. BTW even under warranty they can claim under wear n tear.

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U believe paultan, then pigs can fly. Knn they makan sponsor from Nissan, how to tell the truth?
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wake up! its 2019 already.... paultan ain't the old paultan anymore.... paultan is just another platform for car brand to advertise....
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wake up! its 2019 already.... paultan ain't the old paultan anymore.... paultan is just another platform for car brand to advertise....
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Issit that what I was saying in my post, mayb u quote wrong person?!
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U believe paultan, then pigs can fly. Knn they makan sponsor from Nissan, how to tell the truth?
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People still read paultan these days??

I thought everyone has moved on since?

Nothing useful on there beyond a rewritten sales brochure. No idea why anyone would bother.
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Edited... Apologies to those who find it offensive.

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Haha guys cool down, I read paultan because I need something to read. Plus reviews are just their opinion. Even I can tell, they review based on specs, they don't reflect the features or value of the car. It's not like I'm buying my car based on their review. It's just to spend my time, every writer write different things, sometimes informative sometimes just plain boring.
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Slap your own wrist. Did you not know that at LYN, Pault*n is a taboo.

Hell it was banned to share any of its link at LYN
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Slap your own wrist. Did you not know that at LYN, Pault*n is a taboo.

Hell it was banned to share any of its link at LYN
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I know u can't share links. Well ok. Since you said it that way... Then I keep it to myself.
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I know u can't share links. Well ok. Since you said it that way... Then I keep it to myself.
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QUOTE(gld998 @ May 3 2019, 06:13 AM)
I using Toyota Sienta that uses cvt. And yes, I will nvr buy a Nissan unless its Cefiro, or Skyline or Sylvia. My father using Nissan Slyfly that uses cvt, every 20k km change gearbox oil and put in additive to protect it also Kong. Got a quote to change by Nissan at RM8k. The car is only 4yrs old and just out of warranty. Lj Nissan!
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did ur father change cvt oil too??
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Forget the silly Nissan. Go for Toyota or Honda. You cant go wrong with these 2 Japanese heavyweight brands..
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Recently someone reminded me the Korean cars are quite good too.
Please share your thoughts... smile.gif



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Recently someone reminded me the Korean cars are quite good too.
Please share your thoughts... smile.gif
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Korean cars are useless. Stay away!
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Recently someone reminded me the Korean cars are quite good too.
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spare parts expensice, low RV. not fuel efficient.

The only one that catches my eyes is the IONIC, but hybrid battery dont know la.... LI-ION Oh.
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QUOTE(gld998 @ May 3 2019, 06:13 AM)
I using Toyota Sienta that uses cvt. And yes, I will nvr buy a Nissan unless its Cefiro, or Skyline or Sylvia. My father using Nissan Slyfly that uses cvt, every 20k km change gearbox oil and put in additive to protect it also Kong. Got a quote to change by Nissan at RM8k. The car is only 4yrs old and just out of warranty. Lj Nissan!
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I have the same gear box problem after 3 years warranty. Around 3 years 10 months. Nissan quote me 19k.

After 4 years, fuel pump crack, another 1.5k.

No more Nissan for my family. But I still stuck with Slyphy, resale value very low. Not worth to sell

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did you change to kedai potong cvt? how much?
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My dad was a supporter of Nissan ever since he bought the AD Resort (Wagon), had it for more than 10 years i think, then he traded that in for a 2009 Latio which is still in use today, no major issues and back in 2014 he took in his 3rd Nissan which is the X-Trail SUV 2.0 for the growing family. Despite hearing to a lot of rumors about the gearbox issue, our unit didn't seem to face that so I guess you could say we are satisfied with the overall package Nissan has treated me and my family over the years. He even made good friends with the dealer and technical staff over the years, even to the point where they would offer pick up and drop service when the time had came for us to service our cars.

Now I am waiting for ETCM to bring in the latest Almera to have a look before I start my own family as well. laugh.gif

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did you change to kedai potong cvt? how much?
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I went to gear box specialist to repair, I think they replaced the bearing and etc. Total repair cost 4.5k. Could be I am few of the unlucky one. I did wrote to Nissan to complaint this matter and my mileage was just 32k even after 3.5 years. But they don't entertain, just say after 3 years warranty period. They can't do anything. Sigh.....

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QUOTE(satriaguy @ May 5 2019, 08:57 PM)
I went to gear box specialist to repair, I think they replaced the bearing and etc. Total repair  cost 4.5k. Could be I am few of the unlucky one. I did wrote to Nissan to complaint this matter and my mileage was just 32k even after 3.5 years. But they don't entertain, just say after 3 years warranty period. They can't do anything. Sigh.....
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You know whats the problem with Malaysia?
They aren't like the States. Or Singapore , with Lemon Law.

http://www.nissancvtfail.com/?p=lawsuits

Consumer protection here is weak. I dont know how this case will be handled should you report it to KPDNKK.
If it were in the States, as I read, many has file lawsuit with Nissan of USA.
So much so that they extended the warranty . But not here.

So they (Tan Chong) aren't afraid of you complaining till the moon and beyond. All they do is just shut up and ignore.
(I experience this personally with Proton myself, but thats a different story, non-CVT related, just some mechanic negligence which caused me to encounter breakdown)

Kinda like you have to swallow down the shit.

Gone are the days of Datsun 120Y, Nissan Sunny, Nissan Vanette, to name a few 80s and 90s cars. All legendary heroes.
Ever since Nissan joint alliance with Renault and then later with Mitsu , and together with the Carlos Ghosn scandal, all gone down the drain.


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QUOTE(satriaguy @ May 5 2019, 08:57 PM)
I went to gear box specialist to repair, I think they replaced the bearing and etc. Total repair  cost 4.5k. Could be I am few of the unlucky one. I did wrote to Nissan to complaint this matter and my mileage was just 32k even after 3.5 years. But they don't entertain, just say after 3 years warranty period. They can't do anything. Sigh.....
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I got my replaced in halfcut shop at 2.8k. Still running fine. If kong another time, will change to cefiro AT gearbox from half cut.
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QUOTE(satriaguy @ May 5 2019, 05:07 PM)
I have the same gear box problem after 3 years warranty. Around 3 years 10 months. Nissan quote me 19k.

After 4 years, fuel pump crack, another 1.5k.

No more Nissan for my family. But I still stuck with Slyphy, resale value very low. Not worth to sell
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same here, buy at 120k sell at 30k in 5yrs? sweat.gif


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QUOTE(MichaelJohn @ May 5 2019, 08:27 PM)
My dad was a supporter of Nissan ever since he bought the AD Resort (Wagon), had it for more than 10 years i think, then he traded that in for a 2009 Latio which is still in use today, no major issues and back in 2014 he took in his 3rd Nissan which is the X-Trail SUV 2.0 for the growing family. Despite hearing to a lot of rumors about the gearbox issue, our unit didn't seem to face that so I guess you could say we are satisfied with the overall package Nissan has treated me and my family over the years. He even made good  friends with the dealer and technical staff over the years, even to the point where they would offer pick up and drop service when the time had came for us to service our cars.

Now I am waiting for ETCM to bring in the latest Almera to have a look before I start my own family as well. laugh.gif
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seems Nissan CVT is not reliable
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QUOTE(MichaelJohn @ May 5 2019, 08:27 PM)
My dad was a supporter of Nissan ever since he bought the AD Resort (Wagon), had it for more than 10 years i think, then he traded that in for a 2009 Latio which is still in use today, no major issues and back in 2014 he took in his 3rd Nissan which is the X-Trail SUV 2.0 for the growing family. Despite hearing to a lot of rumors about the gearbox issue, our unit didn't seem to face that so I guess you could say we are satisfied with the overall package Nissan has treated me and my family over the years. He even made good  friends with the dealer and technical staff over the years, even to the point where they would offer pick up and drop service when the time had came for us to service our cars.

Now I am waiting for ETCM to bring in the latest Almera to have a look before I start my own family as well. laugh.gif
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Xtrail uses the conventional AT box, right?
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I just sold off my 2001 Nissan Sentra N16 1.5L this week (This is one of the rarer Sentras out there, most of them still rolling around are 1.6), and I've been driving it since 2012, so I think I can have a say in here. Clocked in about 456,000 km on this legend car.

The car has been in my family since 2005, my dad drove it to work cross-state, so this car clocked in about 100km everyday back when it was his. He maintained it very well and it was around 200k ++ km when he passed it to me. I continued to maintain it to the best of my ability. Timely oil changes and never abused it with revving hard etc.

1. Definitely not for spirited drivers. Think of it as a gentle and steady ride. It's very enjoyable for long distance driving, not so much on jammed city roads.

2. Maintenance cost was relatively low UNTIL these past 2 years. Which is why I decided to sell it off. Despite overhaul done in 2017, several other problems just started cropping up almost every month. But I see this not as a Nissan problem, just that the car is getting old. Wheel bearing need replacement la, radiator leak la, roof starting to get rust cancer...all the usual stuff.

3. At 18 years old and this kind of mileage, many people who come for a ride with me are surprised that my car is still very quiet and steady. (When it doesn't have one of those random breakdown days)

Sold off for RM7.8k, I shall miss that old boii. =)
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QUOTE(Lysentrix @ May 6 2019, 12:02 PM)
I just sold off my 2001 Nissan Sentra N16 1.5L this week (This is one of the rarer Sentras out there, most of them still rolling around are 1.6), and I've been driving it since 2012, so I think I can have a say in here. Clocked in about 456,000 km on this legend car.

The car has been in my family since 2005, my dad drove it to work cross-state, so this car clocked in about 100km everyday back when it was his. He maintained it very well and it was around 200k ++ km when he passed it to me. I continued to maintain it to the best of my ability. Timely oil changes and never abused it with revving hard etc.

1. Definitely not for spirited drivers. Think of it as a gentle and steady ride. It's very enjoyable for long distance driving, not so much on jammed city roads.

2. Maintenance cost was relatively low UNTIL these past 2 years. Which is why I decided to sell it off. Despite overhaul done in 2017, several other problems just started cropping up almost every month. But I see this not as a Nissan problem, just that the car is getting old. Wheel bearing need replacement la, radiator leak la, roof starting to get rust cancer...all the usual stuff.

3. At 18 years old and this kind of mileage, many people who come for a ride with me are surprised that my car is still very quiet and steady. (When it doesn't have one of those random breakdown days)

Sold off for RM7.8k, I shall miss that old boii. =)
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Nissan is good before CVT X Tronic. Your sentra should be either a manual or a normal auto transmission
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QUOTE(gld998 @ May 5 2019, 10:38 PM)
I got my replaced in halfcut shop at 2.8k. Still running fine. If kong another time, will change to cefiro AT gearbox from half cut.
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cefiro AT gearbox solid?..

reason i'm asking because i'm considering a cefiro 3.0 (A32)..year 2000...below RM20k...so wanted to hear about it's everything.. tongue.gif gonna treat this as a poor man;s sports car

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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ May 6 2019, 12:14 PM)
Nissan is good before CVT X Tronic. Your sentra should be either a manual or a normal auto transmission
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Yup it's an auto transmission. no CVT

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QUOTE(fastreader @ May 6 2019, 01:35 PM)
cefiro AT gearbox solid?..

reason i'm asking because i'm considering a cefiro 3.0 (A32)..year 2000...below RM20k...so wanted to hear about it's everything.. tongue.gif  gonna treat this as a poor man;s sports car
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solid. all nissan cars before merger with renault are solid builds
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QUOTE(gld998 @ May 6 2019, 04:18 PM)
solid. all nissan cars before merger with renault are solid builds
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Weird shit, since the alliance most Renault cars became way better than the models they replaced.
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QUOTE(Bjorn1688 @ May 6 2019, 04:35 PM)
Weird shit, since the alliance most Renault cars became way better than the models they replaced.
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LOL. Good point...Perhaps that is why they are pissed of with Renault holding so much voting power whole Nissan has little stake and say in the Alliance.

Bit seriously I wonder if there is any care one can take with Nissan Jatco Xtronic CVT to prolong it's usability.


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QUOTE(gld998 @ May 6 2019, 04:18 PM)
solid. all nissan cars before merger with renault are solid builds
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That times Nissan simply spend spend spend. After Renault, they cut cut cut
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QUOTE(MichaelJohn @ May 5 2019, 08:27 PM)
My dad was a supporter of Nissan ever since he bought the AD Resort (Wagon), had it for more than 10 years i think, then he traded that in for a 2009 Latio which is still in use today, no major issues and back in 2014 he took in his 3rd Nissan which is the X-Trail SUV 2.0 for the growing family. Despite hearing to a lot of rumors about the gearbox issue, our unit didn't seem to face that so I guess you could say we are satisfied with the overall package Nissan has treated me and my family over the years. He even made good  friends with the dealer and technical staff over the years, even to the point where they would offer pick up and drop service when the time had came for us to service our cars.

Now I am waiting for ETCM to bring in the latest Almera to have a look before I start my own family as well. laugh.gif
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I.wonder if your Dada have good driving habits, I heard if you are gentle driver, no hard acceleration from static , the CVT cab be better taken care of and prolonged.
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ May 6 2019, 04:56 PM)
LOL. Good point...Perhaps that is why they are pissed of with Renault holding so much voting power whole Nissan has little stake and say in the Alliance.

Bit seriously I wonder if there is any care one can take with Nissan Jatco Xtronic CVT to prolong it's usability.
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We have to remember one thing, when Renault took over the management of Nissan, Nissan was a near bankrupt company and failing on many fronts.

In fact I remember quite well their cars of that era, they sold the Micra, Almera and Primera all built in Swindon where I spent 1 summer fixing tail lamps. They were plain and boring cars when compared against the competition from Ford and Vauxhall. They were reliable yes but beyond that nothing special about those cars and the Almera I rented I remembered it fondly for consuming a lot of fuel and cheap grey plastics anywhere and everywhere.

CVTs in 2.0l and above engines will always have its issues. Torque is what kills it and in most japanese cars all the torque tend to be at high range so it is no surprise it wears off prematurely.
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I.wonder if your Dada have good driving habits, I heard if you are gentle driver, no hard acceleration from static , the CVT cab be better taken care of and prolonged.
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He's a light footer most the time and yes, he's a good driver unlike me, likes to floor the gas most of the time whistling.gif
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https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/tran...-in-bukit-timah

4 decades but closing in Singapore.
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There are 2 others in SG. One in ubi infront of Toyota and another at Bukit Merah.
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Just prefer there late 90s early 2000 car. After renault takeover, nissan car feel more like renault.
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There are 2 others in SG. One in ubi infront of Toyota and another at Bukit Merah.
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Closing one of three
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Just prefer there late 90s early 2000 car. After renault takeover, nissan car feel more like renault.
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.....Troubled by slumping U.S. sales, aging models and a product cycle that’s out of sync, the Yokohama-based company is on track to announce on Tuesday its lowest annual operating profit in a decade, raising the possibility of a dividend cut. The outlook for the current fiscal year to March 2020 probably won’t be any more promising.



Chief Executive Officer Saikawa has yet to announce a turnaround plan since the arrest of former Chairman Ghosn in November, and people familiar with the matter say there’s internal strife over whether he’s the right executive to fix Nissan. Alliance partner Renault SA may not look too favorably on Saikawa’s reappointment if he continues to oppose a merger said to be backed by its own Chairman Jean-Dominique Senard, who is also a Nissan director.

In addition, alliance partner said it would block Saikawa’s reappointment if he didn’t agree to a merger — a request made by Renault’s new chairman that Saikawa batted away, the Yomiuri newspaper reported last month.....

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2019/05/1...s/#.XNfHlsnmg0M

Conclusion: the mess is going to last until 2020.

So expect more crumbling within Nissan

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Glad to finally get rid off my Nissan! laugh.gif
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Which model?
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Which model?
What do you think of 90s Nissan ?
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It's Livina.
90s Nissan we're good.
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It's Livina.
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Fragile and expensive to maintain. Changed the gearbox for my Almari just over 4 years plus . No warranty for older batch. So far repair and maintenance already 14k plus. For gearbox change i pay half the cost... As "Goodwill" shown by Nissan. .. but no more Nissan for my entire family.
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QUOTE(BravoZeroTwo @ May 13 2019, 12:35 PM)
Why, Livina also problematic ?
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Not really too problematic or major issues but not that good either especially compared to Toyota that I have also. Some examples:
- Coil plugs already misfiring when mileage only reach just over 50k km. Then after full set replacement, at just over 90k km, again the same problem from one of it. A bit annoying especially since this kind of electrical problem will happen suddenly and due to the stupid intake design, need to open intake just to test and replace them.
- Absorbers already leaking at around 30-40k km.
- Rear brake cylinder already leaked also before reaching 50k km.
- There's some seal in the firewall that already leaking a bit of water to inside the cabin. This has been for a long time.
- Alarm siren already kaput twice. Once replaced under warranty, second time no choice to replace my self last year.
- Aircon coil inside dashboard leaking in just 3 months ownership but this was covered under warranty. Still inconvenience to me.
- Fuel consumption is relatively poor at only 9-10km/ltr considering it's a low powered slow MPV, not sure the fuel is consumed for what! In contrast my son's much faster 1.6ltr 130hp Suzuki Swift driven much more aggressively and my 2.5ltr v6 200+hp Mark X can achieve better fuel consumption!

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QUOTE(raywong81 @ May 13 2019, 12:51 PM)
Fragile and expensive to maintain. Changed the gearbox for my Almari just over 4 years plus . No warranty for older batch. So far repair and maintenance already 14k plus. For gearbox change i pay half the cost... As "Goodwill" shown by Nissan. .. but no more Nissan for my entire family.
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WTF? Omg what happened to Nissan. I thought almari using dinosaur age 4AT gearbox? They even hv prob with ancient 4AT ya?
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QUOTE(6UE5T @ May 13 2019, 02:40 PM)
Not really too problematic or major issues but not that good either especially compared to Toyota that I have also. Some examples:
- Coil plugs already misfiring when mileage only reach just over 50k km. Then after full set replacement, at just over 90k km, again the same problem from one of it. A bit annoying especially since this kind of electrical problem will happen suddenly and due to the stupid intake design, need to open intake just to test and replace them.
- Absorbers already leaking at around 30-40k km.
- Rear brake cylinder already leaked also before reaching 50k km.
- There's some seal in the firewall that already leaking a bit of water to inside the cabin. This has been for a long time.
- Alarm siren already kaput twice. Once replaced under warranty, second time no choice to replace my self last year.
- Aircon coil inside dashboard leaking in just 3 months ownership but this was covered under warranty. Still inconvenience to me.
- Fuel consumption is relatively poor at only 9-10km/ltr considering it's a low powered slow MPV, not sure the fuel is consumed for what! In contrast my son's much faster 1.6ltr 130hp Suzuki Swift driven much more aggressively and my 2.5ltr v6 200+hp Mark X can achieve better fuel consumption!
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Do you think all these is because of APM parts used ? What car did you change to, Bro ?
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QUOTE(raywong81 @ May 13 2019, 01:51 PM)
Fragile and expensive to maintain. Changed the gearbox for my Almari just over 4 years plus . No warranty for older batch. So far repair and maintenance already 14k plus. For gearbox change i pay half the cost... As "Goodwill" shown by Nissan. .. but no more Nissan for my entire family.
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What did you pay for RM14K plus ?
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Fragile and expensive to maintain. Changed the gearbox for my Almari just over 4 years plus . No warranty for older batch. So far repair and maintenance already 14k plus. For gearbox change i pay half the cost... As "Goodwill" shown by Nissan. .. but no more Nissan for my entire family.
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What's the prob with gearbox ya?
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QUOTE(BravoZeroTwo @ May 13 2019, 08:14 PM)
Do you think all these is because of APM parts used ? What car did you change to, Bro ?
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Not sure.
No, not planning any replacement yet. It's an extra unnecessary car now since I don't need MPV anymore. Later if need one more car again, then I'll buy something but surely not going to be Nissan! Unless they reintroduce a new pulsar GTi-R. 😂
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my livina serve me damn well though mechanically,mine is face-lifted version manual,there's few occasion i squeeze 8 people up genting with not a hint of struggle,very rev happy engine,especially nice with manual,auto not so much i believe.
but fuel consumption is kinda poor around town,even with manual transmission,struggle to get 10km/l urban. on the other hand i get 19km/l while doing hypermilling long journey.
another thing i must mention is nissan service center are damn bad quality,they deeply scratch my car on 3 occasion,twice in glenmarie once in puchong tpp, the first one happen during my first visit for my 1000km first service, one month old car they already scratch it kow kow,after complaint they repaint that panel for me for the first time,after that they just ignore your complaint
if you send your car to nissan service centre, ORDER THEM NOT TO WASH YOUR CAR, they hire this very unprofessional foreign labor who literally wash your car with bucket of sand water


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QUOTE(Valentino46 @ May 14 2019, 01:23 AM)
my livina serve me damn well though mechanically,mine is face-lifted version manual,there's few occasion i squeeze 8 people up genting with not a hint of struggle,very rev happy engine,especially nice with manual,auto not so much i believe.
but fuel consumption is kinda poor around town,even with manual transmission,struggle to get 10km/l urban. on the other hand i get 19km/l while doing hypermilling long journey.
another thing i must mention is nissan service center are damn bad quality,they deeply scratch my car on 3 occasion,twice in glenmarie once in puchong tpp, the first one happen during my first visit for my 1000km first service, one month old car they already scratch it kow kow,after complaint they repaint that panel for me for the first time,after that they just ignore your complaint
if you send your car to nissan service centre, ORDER THEM NOT TO WASH YOUR CAR, they hire this very unprofessional foreign labor who literally wash your car with bucket of sand water
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Well I had my Livina for 8 years so it did do the job I expected out of it aside from the relatively poor FC. Just that I expected a bit better reliability on those items I mentioned above, maybe because I'm spoiled by my Toyota.

To the contrary on the TC services, I thought they're very good! My car never got any damage or scratches, services had been done well with appointments and queuing managed very well too. They even let me brought my own oil. I mainly only went to Chan Sow Lin, then later just 3 times in Klang branch.
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Well I had my Livina for 8 years so it did do the job I expected out of it aside from the relatively poor FC. Just that I expected a bit better reliability on those items I mentioned above, maybe because I'm spoiled by my Toyota.

To the contrary on the TC services, I thought they're very good! My car never got any damage or scratches, services had been done well with appointments and queuing managed very well too. They even let me brought my own oil. I mainly only went to Chan Sow Lin, then later just 3 times in Klang branch.
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maybe i should start try other Nissan service center
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Nissan's vehicle sales in Japan tumbled 18% in March compared to a year earlier, according to the Japan Automobile Dealers Association. Nissan's overall sales fell 10% in the first quarter. In the U.S., Nissan's first quarter sales fell 12%, while Toyota's slipped 5% and Volkswagen's rose 2%.

...Buyers in Japan and France are concerned about resale value, which tends to go down when automakers encounter scandals...

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/International/wi...-ghosn-62997064

Buyers in Malaysia, how?

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Nissan's vehicle sales in Japan tumbled 18% in March compared to a year earlier, according to the Japan Automobile Dealers Association. Nissan's overall sales fell 10% in the first quarter. In the U.S., Nissan's first quarter sales fell 12%, while Toyota's slipped 5% and Volkswagen's rose 2%.

...Buyers in Japan and France are concerned about resale value, which tends to go down when automakers encounter scandals...

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/International/wi...-ghosn-62997064

Buyers in Malaysia, how?
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Maybe it wasn't such a good idea to remove Carlos Ghosn?
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What did you pay for RM14K plus ?
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Gearbox 10k plus.. air con cooling coil whole set 1k plus, reverse sensors, wheel bearing, wheel bearing and more wheel bearing. Air con fix.. outside smelly air can leaks into the car through air con..
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WTF? Omg what happened to Nissan. I thought almari using dinosaur age 4AT gearbox? They even hv prob with ancient 4AT ya?
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Its cvt gearbox. Cant fixed.. have to replace whole gearbox.
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What's the prob with gearbox ya?
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Grinding sounds getting louder and louder. Eventually the car wont be able to move.
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Maybe it wasn't such a good idea to remove Carlos Ghosn?
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I think it would be a better idea to remove Jatco.

About 5 coming 6 years ago.....Ghosn imposed such a harsh conditions to Jatco

https://www.autoblog.com/2013/12/02/nissan-...problems-ghosn/

Jatco Nissan owns 75 percent of, has come under fire from none other than Nissan CEO Carlos Ghosn, who's spoken about JATCO and its troubles rather openly. "Every time you launch a new CVT you always have some risks," Ghosn said in an interview with Automotive News. "So we now have a process by which, before we launch any new CVT, [JATCO] come before the Nissan executive committee to explain all the measures they have taken to make sure there are no surprises."

YET the surprise is Ghosn removed.

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QUOTE(raywong81 @ May 15 2019, 07:49 AM)
Its cvt gearbox. Cant fixed.. have to replace whole gearbox.
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Almera using conventional 4 AutomaTic gearbox..
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QUOTE(6UE5T @ May 14 2019, 12:02 PM)
Well I had my Livina for 8 years so it did do the job I expected out of it aside from the relatively poor FC. Just that I expected a bit better reliability on those items I mentioned above, maybe because I'm spoiled by my Toyota.

To the contrary on the TC services, I thought they're very good! My car never got any damage or scratches, services had been done well with appointments and queuing managed very well too. They even let me brought my own oil. I mainly only went to Chan Sow Lin, then later just 3 times in Klang branch.
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Bro, may be you had a lemon unit as a few of my fronds who own GL did not suffer the same like your case.
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Bro, may be you had a lemon unit as a few of my fronds who own GL did not suffer the same like your case.
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The coil plug issue is common for Livina. Another rather common issue especially for 2008-2010 Livina is the fuel gauge malfunction, happened just once to mine then normalized by itself.
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The coil plug issue is common for Livina. Another rather common issue especially for 2008-2010 Livina is the fuel gauge malfunction, happened just once to mine then normalized by itself.
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Almera using conventional 4 AutomaTic gearbox..
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May be he bought this one....

https://www.carsifu.my/cars/nissan/sedan-al...n17/15l-vl-2015
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TC never brings in the CVT version, Bro.
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TC never brings in the CVT version, Bro.
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Yes typical TC.

I meant that as a joke
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QUOTE(raywong81 @ May 15 2019, 06:48 AM)
Gearbox 10k plus.. air con cooling coil whole set 1k plus, reverse sensors, wheel bearing, wheel bearing and more wheel bearing. Air con fix.. outside smelly air can leaks into the car through air con..
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kena chop chia lat chia lat.. sweat.gif

https://www.mudah.my/Nissan+Sylphy+KG11+MR2...ut-68970407.htm

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Oh my God. So conventional gearbox could be fixed right?
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Oh my God. So conventional gearbox could be fixed right?
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Yes typical TC.

I meant that as a joke
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https://www.electrive.com/2019/03/11/nissan...t-asian-market/

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...Tan Chong was studying the viability of bringing the Nissan Almera, Nissan Kicks and Nissan Sylphy to the Malaysian market.

If it materialises, it said Tan Chong might probably starting with the Almera, followed by Kicks and Sylphy from 2020 onwards.

“Its strategy to continue to prioritise profitability over sales volumes would influence the pricing and marketing strategies of the new models.

“It will be launching the Nissan Leaf EV in 2H19 but sales volume will likely be immaterial. The new X-trail facelift is seeing stiff competition from Proton X70 and sales could fall short of expectations.

It sold 5,873 units of the previous X-trail in 2018, about 20 per cent of total Nissan/Renault sales.”...

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ May 13 2019, 01:40 PM)
Not really too problematic or major issues but not that good either especially compared to Toyota that I have also. Some examples:
- Coil plugs already misfiring when mileage only reach just over 50k km. Then after full set replacement, at just over 90k km, again the same problem from one of it. A bit annoying especially since this kind of electrical problem will happen suddenly and due to the stupid intake design, need to open intake just to test and replace them.
- Absorbers already leaking at around 30-40k km.
- Rear brake cylinder already leaked also before reaching 50k km.
- There's some seal in the firewall that already leaking a bit of water to inside the cabin. This has been for a long time.
- Alarm siren already kaput twice. Once replaced under warranty, second time no choice to replace my self last year.
- Aircon coil inside dashboard leaking in just 3 months ownership but this was covered under warranty. Still inconvenience to me.
- Fuel consumption is relatively poor at only 9-10km/ltr considering it's a low powered slow MPV, not sure the fuel is consumed for what! In contrast my son's much faster 1.6ltr 130hp Suzuki Swift driven much more aggressively and my 2.5ltr v6 200+hp Mark X can achieve better fuel consumption!
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Kinda annoyed at my Sylphy, too.

After 1.5 months or so, power window died. Now less than 4 years/50k (I don't drive much recently), the radiator fan died and they want 1.6k to replace it.
There's also an occasional cracking sound from the front absorber area when going over humps even at very, very low speeds, but they claimed they can't find the cause.

After this experience and my wife's CR-V, I'm going back to P1/P2. At least they're cheaper, and I have a much lower expectation of them.
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QUOTE(thesoothsayer @ May 22 2019, 09:43 PM)
Kinda annoyed at my Sylphy, too.

After 1.5 months or so, power window died. Now less than 4 years/50k (I don't drive much recently), the radiator fan died and they want 1.6k to replace it.
There's also an occasional cracking sound from the front absorber area when going over humps even at very, very low speeds, but they claimed they can't find the cause.

After this experience and my wife's CR-V, I'm going back to P1/P2. At least they're cheaper, and I have a much lower expectation of them.
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I have that clack sound at absorber too.. wth.. the absorber is new,, about 2 months old only.
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QUOTE(Kitty_catts @ May 23 2019, 04:33 PM)
I have that clack sound at absorber too.. wth.. the absorber is new,, about 2 months old only.
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Yeah, the sound started early but they kept claiming they can't find any problem. However, seems to have more or less gone away after 1.5+ years of using it. Rarely happens anymore. Not sure what the hell the problem is/was.
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https://usa.nissannews.com/en-US/releases/r...ls-love-sedans#

https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2019/05/n...ls-love-sedans/
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The Truth about Cars

According to the above (first link) study commissioned by Nissan, Millennials are committed to saving the sedan in an era when crossovers have usurped much of the market. While much of the study revolves around asking people whether they’d consider purchasing a sedan in the future — something any smart shopper would say “yes” to — survey respondents also said there was very little difference in terms of customer satisfaction between crossovers and sedans.

That’s good news for any automaker that launched a bundle of new and refreshed sedans over the past few years. Can you think of one?

Any automotive study commissioned by a manufacturer is suspect, but there could be something to this. Previous studies that were less concerned with promoting an automaker’s own interests also indicated that Millennials are more apt to buy cars than older generations. But it may have more to do with circumstances than generational tastes.

As a group, Millennial tend to poorer than their parents were at the same stages of life and come loaded with debt. They are also far less likely to have children and more likely to live in cities — all of which makes owning a large crossover vehicle rather nonsensical.

However, Nissan seems to view this as a matter of personal preference, even going so far as to suggest “it’s not just avocado toast” that Millennials love. It’s a dated trope that’s been proven wrong in the past and it highlights just how superficial most takes on generational differences really are. It looks like Nissan’s fallen prey to this kind of thinking, leaving it correct in its assertion that younger shoppers like cars — but maybe for the wrong reasons.

In truth, there’s not much to glean from Nissan’s study. Announcing that 86 percent of 18-34 year-olds who don’t own a sedan would consider buying one (now or in the future) isn’t saying much when 81 percent of adults aged 35-50 indicated the same. The rest of the survey, which focused on consumer satisfaction and the importance of functionality between SUV/truck and sedan owners, showed no appreciable differences. 89 percent of sedan owners said they were just as happy as 88 percent of non-sedan owners. Meanwhile, the breakdown for functionality as the biggest thing customers love about their car was 95 to 94 percent, with sedans once again in the lead.

“What we’re hearing from younger buyers is that they appreciate the features, versatility, fuel economy and value in our sedans,” said Nissan’s chief marketing manager Rob Warren. “Sedan design has also come a long way, as these traditional four-door cars shed their generic look, add more technology and take on a more aggressive, stylish profile. As sedans become more exciting to look at and to drive, younger buyers are putting sedans at the top of their consideration list.”

With such a strong emphasis placed on sedan sales already, Nissan’s probably seeing what it wants. The fact of the matter is that Altima, Maxima, and Versa sales tanked in the U.S. last year. Meanwhile, the Sentra held strong while crossovers continued to dominate the market. Whether or not younger buyers are more predisposed to consider cars over crossovers is largely irrelevant if they aren’t actually buying them.




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https://europe.autonews.com/blogs/nissan-bi...d-renault-merge

Nissan oh Nissan
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ May 27 2019, 10:05 PM)
That really came from nowhere.

Always thought PSA would snatch up FCA as it would have been far more useful to them since it would have provided a quick and easy entry into North America.

Wonder if this signals the end of the alliance and what would happen to Mitsubishi now that Renault has FCA in hand.
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QUOTE(Bjorn1688 @ May 28 2019, 03:06 PM)
That really came from nowhere.

Always thought PSA would snatch up FCA as it would have been far more useful to them since it would have provided a quick and easy entry into North America.

Wonder if this signals the end of the alliance and what would happen to Mitsubishi now that Renault has FCA in hand.
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The more we look.at the deal, the more it dawns on us that it is really a good contingency plan for the shaky and crumbling? Alliance.

Without Nissan whom structurally have the substantial stake in Mitsubishi, just the two FCA and Renault is already huge

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As the outsider still, FCA's overture is however very politically correct.....


https://europe.autonews.com/automakers/elka...-renault-merger

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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ May 29 2019, 08:12 AM)
The more we look.at the deal, the more it dawns on us that it is really a good contingency plan for the shaky and crumbling? Alliance.

Without Nissan whom structurally have the substantial stake in Mitsubishi, just the two FCA and Renault is already huge

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As the outsider still, FCA's overture is however very politically correct.....
https://europe.autonews.com/automakers/elka...-renault-merger
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Got to give it to Renault, they knew how to play their cards and played it very well.

Indirectly told Nissan its either my way or the highway.

It will definitely be a good merger but pity FCA did not choose PSA instead.
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QUOTE(Bjorn1688 @ May 29 2019, 09:34 PM)
Got to give it to Renault, they knew how to play their cards and played it very well.

Indirectly told Nissan its either my way or the highway.

It will definitely be a good merger but pity FCA did not choose PSA instead.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/28/business...ult-nissan.html

Newy York times has an interesting coverage. I like the way it ends....

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“At the end of the day,” said Koji Endo, an auto analyst at SBI Securities in Japan, “I think Nissan has no choice but to say yes.”




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CKD in Malaysia a lightweight version R34 with 1.5 turbo 4WD (can put in RB26 with minimum hassle) and sell at civic ketam price, sales up 300% within weeks.
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ May 29 2019, 10:40 PM)
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/28/business...ult-nissan.html

Newy York times has an interesting coverage. I like the way it ends....
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There really isn't much for them to say yes or no to, in the end both will Nissan to MYOB and where the door is, they should not have disposed off Carlos Ghosn now there are even more hardliners to deal with and with blessing from the French government it seems.

Wonder if it is really as bad as the press are making it out to be on the distrust that's going on, if it is Nissan and Mitsubishi better hope they would be parties to the merger else they will be out of money to develop any new platforms.
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According to news read in Paul Tan.. Nissan R&D budget has been cut by Renault so long.. No wonder Nissan very bad for so long edi..
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There really isn't much for them to say yes or no to, in the end both will Nissan to MYOB and where the door is, they should not have disposed off Carlos Ghosn now there are even more hardliners to deal with and with blessing from the French government it seems.

Wonder if it is really as bad as the press are making it out to be on the distrust that's going on, if it is Nissan and Mitsubishi better hope they would be parties to the merger else they will be out of money to develop any new platforms.
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According to news read in Paul Tan.. Nissan R&D budget has been cut by Renault so long.. No wonder Nissan very bad for so long edi..
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I think Nissan see this as an opportunity too

Nissan officially said no objection, and I can see why

https://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-fiat...0529-story.html

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Renault and Nissan enter talks over proposed Fiat Chrysler merger
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Renault and Nissan enter talks over proposed Fiat Chrysler merger
Renault Chairman Jean-Dominique Senard, left, speaks as Nissan CEO Hiroto Saikawa listens during a joint March 12 press conference at the Nissan headquarters in Yokohama, near Tokyo. (Eugene Hoshiko / AP)
Renault Chairman Jean-Dominique Senard arrived in Tokyo with a crucial mission: to sell the proposed merger between Fiat Chrysler Automobiles and his company to longtime partner Nissan Motor Co.

There are signs he made some progress Wednesday at a meeting of the board overseeing the alliance between Nissan, Renault and Mitsubishi Motors Corp. Speaking to reporters after the gathering, Nissan Chief Executive Officer Hiroto Saikawa said he sees potential opportunities for the alliance in Fiat Chrysler’s merger proposal, though he plans to study the matter further.

“In terms of the benefits for Nissan, we want to see specifically where they will come from,” Saikawa said. “Overall, we don’t consider this as a minus, but we want to watch carefully how things go.”

Under the terms of the Fiat proposal, Nissan will gain voting rights of 7.5% in the new entity, compared with no voting rights attached to its current cross-held shares in Renault. A merger would also dilute the French state’s control over Renault, and indirectly over Nissan, easing a concern the Japanese company has had for years.

Senard’s goal is to ensure that they all work well together. Although Nissan and Renault have been partners for two decades, the Japanese automaker isn’t in a position to block the deal. Nissan doesn’t own a controlling stake in the French company, and a merger wouldn’t breach their operating agreement.

Even so, Nissan is a critical part of what would be a global carmaking confederation that would produce 15 million cars a year, the most in the world. Renault and Fiat both need Nissan to facilitate access to markets in China, Japan and the rest of Asia, as well as electric-car technology.

The three-way alliance issued a statement saying that they held an "open and transparent discussion" on the merger proposal. "The meeting also discussed and positively concluded several current operational alliance matters,” the partners said.

“Senard has to convince the board members of Nissan this is probably a better idea for Nissan,” said Koji Endo, an analyst at SBI Securities in Tokyo. “He will have to reassure not only Nissan but also the Japanese government that Nissan will remain as one independent company, because that’s their primary concern.”

Renault’s board is expected to give preliminary approval to Fiat’s proposal as soon as next week, according to people familiar with the matter. While Fiat and Renault aren’t seeking a merger with Nissan for now, the companies plan to eventually invite Nissan and Mitsubishi Motors to join forces, they said.

“The benefits that would accrue from a combination of Groupe Renault and FCA, we believe, would also extend to the alliance partners Mitsubishi and Nissan,” Fiat Chrysler told its dealers and suppliers Monday. “We look forward to engaging with them on even greater, mutually beneficial opportunities.”

At stake is the companies’ ability to compete as the industry faces multiple challenges. With sales falling in the world’s biggest car markets, manufacturers are being pushed by regulators to electrify and reduce fleet emissions, forcing them to combine efforts and investments. They also need to spend heavily on self-driving technology or risk getting left behind by new, deep-pocketed competitors like Alphabet Inc.’s Waymo.

Although Renault owns a 43% stake in Nissan, the Japanese automaker is the bigger partner by sales and owns 15% of Renault, with no voting rights. Nissan sold 5.65 million cars last year, more than Renault’s 3.88 million units, but its profitability has been on the decline.

Hurt by slumping U.S. sales, aging vehicle models and an out-of-sync product cycle, the Japanese automaker issued an outlook for weak operating profit and cut its dividend for the first time in a decade.

The alliance was destabilized six months ago with the arrest of Carlos Ghosn, its architect and chairman, in connection with alleged financial crimes during his time as leader of the Japanese carmaker. Ghosn has denied all of the charges and is preparing for his trial, which will probably start next year.

Senard, who replaced Ghosn as chairman of Renault and the alliance, has sought to put the three automakers back on stable ground following his predecessor’s arrest. He worked earlier this year with Nissan to craft a new governance structure to oversee the partnership, giving up key concessions over board seats to assuage concerns by the Yokohama-based company.

Although Senard had been prodding Saikawa to consider further consolidation under a holding company structure, that’s now on hold. Eventually, they plan to invite the Japanese automaker to deepen ties, people with knowledge of the matter said.

Saikawa, who had rebuffed any talk of merging, now appears to be shifting his message. Talks between the European car companies will bring more opportunities and be positive for the future, Nissan’s CEO said. “It’s better if the alliance’s reach expands,” he said.

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The new all-electric Nissan Leaf, which is due to hit the Australian market in August of this year, has received the maximum safety rating from Australia’s new car safety assessment body, ANCAP.

The Leaf, which last year was given an upgraded 40kWh battery taking its driving range up to 315km on the NEDC cycle (in real world driving conditions this is expected to be more like 240km), has been recognised in the US as the cheapest electric car to own over a 5 year period.

As one of Australia’s most affordable electric cars (it has been slated to start at just under $A50,000 before on road costs when it goes on sale in a few months), the new safety rating will be another drawcard for drivers looking for safety as well as reduced emissions and running costs.

The rating, which was officially posted on the ANCAP website on Tuesday, applies to the new 2019 Leaf that will be introduced in Australia as well as the 2018 Nissan Leaf that has been available in New Zealand since last year.

With a 100% rating for side impact for both adults and children and 100% rating for pole (oblique) impacts (this is not measured for children), the Nissan Leaf achieved a 95% overall rating for adult occupants and 85% overall rating for child occupants.......



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Fiat Chrysler withdraws merger offer for Renault after France fails to win Nissan's outright support
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Guys I’m still considering Serena or Toyota estima, I’m in the car field , my mechanic and used car salesman friends all do not recommend me to buy a Nissan car because it’s not reliable and the parts is expensive. But the Serena is quite tempting and estima is a recon car . Still considering .

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Guys I’m still considering Serena or Toyota estima, I’m in the car field , my mechanic and used car salesman friends all do not recommend me to buy a Nissan car because it’s not reliable and the parts is expensive. But the Serena is quite tempting . Still considering .
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I’ve owned both brand cars before, I totally agree with your mechanic advise bro
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QUOTE(boarulez @ Jun 10 2019, 10:18 PM)
Guys I’m still considering Serena or Toyota estima, I’m in the car field , my mechanic and used car salesman friends all do not recommend me to buy a Nissan car because it’s not reliable and the parts is expensive. But the Serena is quite tempting and estima is a recon car . Still considering .
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Agree.. reliability of toyota is way more guaranteed. Experience from all these different brands my family is using.
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The Nissan Brand Message Is 'Let's Make A Deal'
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Nissan is currently seeking a new CEO. With Carlos Ghosn still awaiting trial, and his successor, Hiroto Saikawa, was abruptly fired. The corporation is being guided by an interim CEO during a time of upheaval


Observers point out that the magnitude and the breadth of the problems facing the Corporation far outweigh where it was 20 years ago. The automotive industry is in the throes of several sea changes, forcing most of the big brands to rejigger or replace strategies, as well as put resources into a variety of new mobility options.

In addition to industry uncertainty, Nissan’s most profitable marketplace, the US, is vastly underperforming. According to Automotive News, U.S. sales through July 2019, fell 7.8%. Accordingly, 30% of U.S. dealerships are hemorrhaging cash while another 10% are barely breaking even. The Nissan brand is in the challenging situation of management upheaval, industry uncertainty and brand jeopardy.


The Nissan brand, which had been resuscitated during the first three-year Nissan Revival Plan (NRP, announced in 1999), has devolved back to being perceived as a cheap, incentive-laden brand, according to various press reports. As one dealer bemoaned, Nissan is where Kia used to be in terms of brand perceptions… the value brand. Fixing the Nissan brand will be one of the new CEO’s biggest tasks. It will not be an easy mission. Lowering the average price of the car and continually buying market share with deals has set the brand back 20 years.

Very early in the first NRP (Nissan Revival Plan), BusinessWeek International reported on an interview with Mr. Ghosn. Mr. Ghosn commented that a Nissan customer would need an incentive of US $1300 just to consider a Nissan purchase. The Nissan brand image was so impaired that the brand was at a significant price disadvantage.


One of the strategic brand priorities of the NRP was the reduction of incentives. At that time, Nissan could only sell vehicles by offering prices lower than competitors: potential buyers expected steep discounts.

Excessive emphasis on deals builds deal loyalty rather than real loyalty. Buyers become loyal to the deal, not to the brand. Deal loyalists are brand indifferent. They go to where the deal is best rather than buying the best brand. Deal loyalists do not see any value in the in the Nissan brand.

Generating sales based solely on deals actually increased price sensitivity, which had to be addressed with even more deals, which increased price sensitivity, which required more deals. The result is a death spiral of promotion addiction.

The “let’s make a deal” approach is death-knell, deleterious marketing. Deal loyalty demolishes brand value. Constantly offering deals extracts value from the brand, weakening it over time. The more deals, the more price sensitive the customer; the more price sensitive the customer, the more frequent the deal discounts need to be. Eventually, the brand is always on deal. Fixing the brand will mean turning the current price sensitive customer into a brand sensitive customer.


Of course, promotions and price deals can generate traffic. Deals are appropriate for such marketing goals as attracting new customers, re-attracting lapsed users, encouraging trial of a new offer. But, living with dealing as the only marketing approach creates customers who will leave the brand the minute another brand has a better deal.

It is imperative that whoever takes the reins at Nissan has brand building as a strategic priority. The first-step is to top the hemorrhaging of the customer base. Shore up the core. Stop the bleeding. Make sure the brand promise is relevant, differentiated and trustworthy. True customer insights will be essential. Dealers say they want more advertising. Increasing marketing spend to create more advertising around a brand that has a damaged image will only increase these negative perceptions. The brand needs a coherent, consistent, trustworthy, relevantly differentiated message before money is spent on ads.

Brand building also means that everyone in the organization, regardless of function and including dealers, lives the revitalized brand promise day-in and day-out. And, that everyone has a responsibility for the integrity and strength of the brand.

New vehicle models will help. New products make marketing news. New products attract brand interest. But, discounts and deals will also have an important role in creating brand consideration. But, revitalizing the Nissan brand is the strategic imperative. If potential buyers believe the brand is not worth the money, time and effort, all the new models in the world will not help. “Let’s make a deal,” as the only marketing tactic is destined to fail.

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