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post Apr 26 2019, 02:29 PM, updated 7y ago

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Is anyone know what is the different between E200 & E250?
Which is a better option If I would go for a used car which is around 2014 - 2016?
What are the main issue/problem from E200 & E250?
What is the estimate maintenance cost from authorize dealers & private dealers?
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post Apr 26 2019, 02:50 PM

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Google!
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post Apr 26 2019, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(19 Degree South @ Apr 26 2019, 02:50 PM)
Google!
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I had google it and even wikipedia. but does not has any good one to review. doh.gif
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post Apr 26 2019, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(ylp@ @ Apr 26 2019, 02:58 PM)
I had google it and even wikipedia. but does not has any good one to review.  doh.gif
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Go of the Mercedes’ thread and dig! Too lazy to type coz it has been discussed ample times liao,!
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post Apr 26 2019, 04:13 PM

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200 & 250, engine capacity / engine tuning.
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post Apr 26 2019, 05:06 PM

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Difference between E200 and E250 is the level of trims and engine power output.

Engine capacity wise, both E200 and E250 uses the same engine, for W212 pre-facelift both uses 1.8T M271 DE18 engine, facelift version uses 2.0T M274 DE20 engine, but the power output are tuned differently. Needless to say, E250 has higher power output than E200, can accelerate faster, have higher top speed.

E200: 135 kW/270 N⋅m
E250: 150 kW/350 N⋅m

Trim wise, E250 have more stuff like sunroof, larger diameter rims, etc.

Depends on your budget, E200 is cheaper than E250. Again, you get what you paid. If you are just looking for a comfortable ride, E200 is enough. If you are looking for more omph and more gadgets, E250.

Traditionally, Elegance trim (E200) is comfortable than Sports trim (E250).

I have to reiterate this again, can you comfortably afford a brand new E200/E250? If no, stay away from their second hands. You most probably have difficulty maintaining one later. Servicing at SC, RM8XX for a basic maintenance service. If not mistaken, RM6k for all discs and pads. RM3k for each absorber. If you service outside without any trusted mechanics, you ended up get butchered since you are driving a luxury car. You may save some from labor charges, but those spare parts cost about the same. So if you can comfortably afford a RM370k car, you can afford RM10k-30k service bill and keep your car running. Else you will become like those youngster driving 2nd hand Mercedes/BMW but no money to keep the car in running condition, ended up stalling beside the road.

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post Apr 27 2019, 08:14 AM

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QUOTE(RicoT @ Apr 26 2019, 05:06 PM)
Difference between E200 and E250 is the level of trims and engine power output.

Engine capacity wise, both E200 and E250 uses the same engine, for W212 pre-facelift both uses 1.8T M271 DE18 engine, facelift version uses 2.0T M274 DE20 engine, but the power output are tuned differently. Needless to say, E250 has higher power output than E200, can accelerate faster, have higher top speed.

E200: 135 kW/270 N⋅m
E250: 150 kW/350 N⋅m

Trim wise, E250 have more stuff like sunroof, larger diameter rims, etc.

Depends on your budget, E200 is cheaper than E250. Again, you get what you paid. If you are just looking for a comfortable ride, E200 is enough. If you are looking for more omph and more gadgets, E250.

Traditionally, Elegance trim (E200) is comfortable than Sports trim (E250).

I have to reiterate this again, can you comfortably afford a brand new E200/E250? If no, stay away from their second hands. You most probably have difficulty maintaining one later. Servicing at SC, RM8XX for a basic maintenance service. If not mistaken, RM6k for all discs and pads. RM3k for each absorber. If you service outside without any trusted mechanics, you ended up get butchered since you are driving a luxury car. You may save some from labor charges, but those spare parts cost about the same. So if you can comfortably afford a RM370k car, you can afford RM10k-30k service bill and keep your car running. Else you will become like those youngster driving 2nd hand Mercedes/BMW but no money to keep the car in running condition, ended up stalling beside the road.
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For TS, this your answer.

Add on: From what I know if it's AMG spec, SC charged more than 10k for all disc, pads and brake fluid.
Different between servicing in SC and reputable workshop is about half the price.
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post Apr 28 2019, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(jameslow @ Apr 27 2019, 08:14 AM)
For TS, this your answer.

Add on: From what I know if it's AMG spec, SC charged more than 10k for all disc, pads and brake fluid.
Different between servicing in SC and reputable workshop is about half the price.
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Though authorized service centre is expensive, for the normal services, I doubt the difference could be half. Maybe, for external such as body work, painting, tyre balancing, rotation. But, definitely not for Schedule A or B types of maintenance.

Owner can ask the authorized service centre to exclude items not mandatory. I also think 8xx for normal maintenance at authorized service centre is also a challenge. Nowadays, it is around 11xx.
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post Apr 28 2019, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(ongss @ Apr 28 2019, 11:19 AM)
Though authorized service centre is expensive, for the normal services, I doubt the difference could be half. Maybe, for external such as body work, painting, tyre balancing, rotation. But, definitely not for Schedule A or B types of maintenance.

Owner can ask the authorized service centre to exclude items not mandatory. I also think 8xx for normal maintenance at authorized service centre is also a challenge. Nowadays, it is around 11xx.
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RM8xx is just oil, filter, drain plug, alignment and balancing. Nothing else.
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post Apr 28 2019, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(RicoT @ Apr 28 2019, 01:06 PM)
RM8xx is just oil, filter, drain plug, alignment and balancing. Nothing else.
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Don't think alignment and balancing are included for 800 plus! Thier labor charges almost 1/3 Liao!
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post Apr 28 2019, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(19 Degree South @ Apr 28 2019, 04:07 PM)
Don't think alignment and balancing are included for 800 plus! Thier labor charges almost 1/3 Liao!
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Oh ya, you are right. That alignment and balancing is RM165. Just the oil, oil filter, gasket, sundries & labor, RM8xx or 9xx.

So one service is about RM1k.
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QUOTE(RicoT @ Apr 28 2019, 09:09 PM)
Oh ya, you are right. That alignment and balancing is RM165. Just the oil, oil filter, gasket, sundries & labor, RM8xx or 9xx.

So one service is about RM1k.
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So is Audi less expensive to take care/maintain compared to Mercedes? Cause my service is around RM6xx-7xx depending on parts.
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post Apr 29 2019, 10:28 PM

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Its funny seeing non-continental car owners speaking of overly exaggerated maintenance pricings here. Oh my.. so many ill informed consumers.
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post Apr 29 2019, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(Bendan520 @ Apr 29 2019, 10:24 PM)
So is Audi less expensive to take care/maintain compared to Mercedes? Cause my service is around RM6xx-7xx depending on parts.
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Are you quoting official SC pricing or outside workshop? Also, different class, different pricing.

This post has been edited by RicoT: Apr 29 2019, 10:57 PM
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post Apr 29 2019, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(RicoT @ Apr 29 2019, 10:52 PM)
Are you quoting official SC pricing or outside workshop?
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Aiks, my bad, if its SC then I agree with that pricing, if its outside then its way way cheaper.
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post Apr 29 2019, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(Bendan520 @ Apr 29 2019, 10:55 PM)
Aiks, my bad, if its SC then I agree with that pricing, if its outside then its way way cheaper.
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If you have outside workshop you can trust in terms of honesty and technical competence, then good for you. If no, any random outside workshop also will chop chop since you come in a luxury car.

As you mentioned, parts from Taiwan/3rd Party sure way cheaper than original parts. Then again, original parts itself are not cheap by normal car standards.

This post has been edited by RicoT: Apr 29 2019, 11:32 PM
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post Apr 30 2019, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(Bendan520 @ Apr 29 2019, 10:28 PM)
Its funny seeing non-continental car owners speaking of overly exaggerated maintenance pricings here. Oh my.. so many ill informed consumers.
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