Onyx Pro
https://genexisx.blogspot.com/2020/01/revie...o-i7-9750h.html
Laguna SE
https://genexisx.blogspot.com/2019/10/revie...-9750h-rtx.html
Raven SE-R
https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/110193...9750h-rtx-2060/
Selenite
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Main specs:
A few notes before reading:
1. This is a quick review; thus, not everything will be covered in here
2. This review will mainly focus on thermals instead of performance
3. I will often compare this model with its smaller brother – Onyx
Product page: Illegear Selenite 9th gen, Illegear Selenite
Part 1: Build quality, input devices
Build quality is excellent overall, only just slightly behind Onyx. The lid has aluminium brush on top of it. There is only little flex when force is applied at the center. There is some flex when the lid is twisted, but not as much compared to Onyx. The lid has a bit of wobbling. You can open the lid with 1 hand. The body is all hard-plastic+soft touch build. Despite that, there is no flex on the entire keyboard deck and it cannot be twisted with force.
The mechanical keyboard (GENESWITCH v2, cap 2, brown switch) has low actuation force (slightly lower than the one in Onyx) and 2mm key travel. The switches are surprisingly quiet when pressed. Should be usable in quiet conditions such as in library. There is one complaint: The keycaps have some wobbling which makes typing a little uncomfortable (update: another unit doesn't have wobbling keycaps). Like the Raven, the layout is a bit special (especially right CTRL and SHIFT keys) and I can sometimes mistype the up key when trying to press right shift. You can set the effect, brightness and speed of the keyboard lighting via the Control Center software.
The large Clickpad has Precision driver. The plastic surface has satisfactory smoothness but can be a bit rough when you have wet/oily fingers. Like the Onyx, you can disable the clickpad by double tapping the left top corner of the clickpad. The L/R click feel is OK, nothing special. Take note that the clickpad is located directly below the space bar; therefore, it’s aligned more to the left side. One minor issue: The clickpad has some noise when tapped hard on it.
Part 2: Display, Audio, Battery
The display is a 144Hz IPS panel from BOE (display ID BOE07B6). As you can expect from a high refresh rate panel, everything feels smooth. It gets bright enough, colours are vibrant and has good contrast.
The 2 down firing speakers has good audio (with a bit of bass too); however, you need to tune the audio via Sound Blaster software (otherwise the sound quality is terrible). Tuned audio profile: Music profile, bass 0, treble 3, surround 80, crystalizer 50, bass 40, smart vol 0, dialog+ off. Volume is a bit soft/quiet. Overall, the sound quality is slightly worse than the one in Onyx (with tuned audio profile too).
I don’t have time to test the battery life, however don’t expect much from the 46.74Wh battery.
Part 3: Cooling performance
The cooling design consists of 3 heatpipes with 1 shared on CPU+GPU. The heatsink is stretched to both left and right.
Notes on all thermal testing:
CPU Undervolt profile: -100mv on core and cache
Blue highlighted part is CPU undervolted result
CPU temp - Cinebench R15 multi core
Max 95C, ~3.4-3.6GHz, ~80W
Max 95C, 3.8-3.9GHz, 82-85W, 1200+cb
Almost full fans for both
CPU temp - Aida64 FPU 70W
Max 90C, 3.0-3.1GHz
Max 90C, 3.3-3.4GHz
Almost max fans for both
GPU temp - Unigine Valley (extreme HD profile)
Clock speed fluctuates, at least 100MHz higher than boost clock (1440MHz)
Max 75C, max 125W
Slightly reduced fans (compared to almost max fans)
FPU (with undervolt) + Valley (extreme HD) with max fans
CPU: Max 94C, 3.0-3.1GHz, ~50W
GPU: Max 75C, same clock speed behaviour, ~120W
Apex Legends 1080p all max, 6GB budget, 90 FOV (with undervolt)
Mid 70s, clock speed fluctuates at 3+GHz, 20-25W (see video below for explanation of the clock speed fluctuation)
GPU: Max 75C, clock speed fluctuates mostly sit at 1500-1600MHz range, 115+W
Slightly reduced fans
Unigine Valley benchmark (extreme HD, 1 run only)
FPS: 95.9
Score: 4011
The chassis stay quite cool when it’s under load. Core temp differential is ~10C
In Illegear Command Center, there are 2 modes to choose from: Game mode or office mode. Office mode gives you access to control fan speed but has a 35W CPU power limit.
There are also 4 power profiles to choose from:
Here's a good video on how all the power setting works. Very informative. Basically, just keep it to game mode and equilibrium
The included power adapter is a 230W unit from Chicony. Take note that temps might be a little higher when running dual channel memory.
Part 4: Miscellaneous
The laptop is very portable for a 17-inch gaming laptop while not sacrificing thickness for cooling room – 2.35kg and 25mm thickness. The footprint is also relatively small, just like typical 15 inch device.
You need to press about 2 seconds to power on the laptop.
For the pictures of positioning of ports, cooling solution etc, you can refer Notebookcheck review on XMG Neo 17
Other settings in Illegear Command Center:
Update: i7-9750H model
Update: 2080MQ model
Conclusion: Well-cooled and well-built 17 inch RTX light weight gaming laptop
Pros:
Cons:
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i7-8750H
RTX 2070 8GB
16GB 2666MHz RAM single channel
Samsung PM981 256GB
Intel 9560
W10 Trial
Mechanical keyboard (brown switch)
144Hz IPS
Kryonaut repaste and display colour calibration included
Based on TongFang GK7CP7S chassis
RTX 2070 8GB
16GB 2666MHz RAM single channel
Samsung PM981 256GB
Intel 9560
W10 Trial
Mechanical keyboard (brown switch)
144Hz IPS
Kryonaut repaste and display colour calibration included
Based on TongFang GK7CP7S chassis
A few notes before reading:
1. This is a quick review; thus, not everything will be covered in here
2. This review will mainly focus on thermals instead of performance
3. I will often compare this model with its smaller brother – Onyx
Product page: Illegear Selenite 9th gen, Illegear Selenite
Part 1: Build quality, input devices
Build quality is excellent overall, only just slightly behind Onyx. The lid has aluminium brush on top of it. There is only little flex when force is applied at the center. There is some flex when the lid is twisted, but not as much compared to Onyx. The lid has a bit of wobbling. You can open the lid with 1 hand. The body is all hard-plastic+soft touch build. Despite that, there is no flex on the entire keyboard deck and it cannot be twisted with force.
The mechanical keyboard (GENESWITCH v2, cap 2, brown switch) has low actuation force (slightly lower than the one in Onyx) and 2mm key travel. The switches are surprisingly quiet when pressed. Should be usable in quiet conditions such as in library. There is one complaint: The keycaps have some wobbling which makes typing a little uncomfortable (update: another unit doesn't have wobbling keycaps). Like the Raven, the layout is a bit special (especially right CTRL and SHIFT keys) and I can sometimes mistype the up key when trying to press right shift. You can set the effect, brightness and speed of the keyboard lighting via the Control Center software.
The large Clickpad has Precision driver. The plastic surface has satisfactory smoothness but can be a bit rough when you have wet/oily fingers. Like the Onyx, you can disable the clickpad by double tapping the left top corner of the clickpad. The L/R click feel is OK, nothing special. Take note that the clickpad is located directly below the space bar; therefore, it’s aligned more to the left side. One minor issue: The clickpad has some noise when tapped hard on it.
Part 2: Display, Audio, Battery
The display is a 144Hz IPS panel from BOE (display ID BOE07B6). As you can expect from a high refresh rate panel, everything feels smooth. It gets bright enough, colours are vibrant and has good contrast.
The 2 down firing speakers has good audio (with a bit of bass too); however, you need to tune the audio via Sound Blaster software (otherwise the sound quality is terrible). Tuned audio profile: Music profile, bass 0, treble 3, surround 80, crystalizer 50, bass 40, smart vol 0, dialog+ off. Volume is a bit soft/quiet. Overall, the sound quality is slightly worse than the one in Onyx (with tuned audio profile too).
I don’t have time to test the battery life, however don’t expect much from the 46.74Wh battery.
Part 3: Cooling performance
The cooling design consists of 3 heatpipes with 1 shared on CPU+GPU. The heatsink is stretched to both left and right.
Notes on all thermal testing:
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PL1 – 70W, PL2 – 85W
BIOS N.1.02, EC 1.03.09
GPU driver tested is 418.91
Test is conducted in an A/C room (ambient 20-22C)
Game mode and equilibrium mode are used (more on that later)
Laptop is plugged in. The fans take a while to speed up when load is applied
Max fan noise is ~54dBA
BIOS N.1.02, EC 1.03.09
GPU driver tested is 418.91
Test is conducted in an A/C room (ambient 20-22C)
Game mode and equilibrium mode are used (more on that later)
Laptop is plugged in. The fans take a while to speed up when load is applied
Max fan noise is ~54dBA
CPU Undervolt profile: -100mv on core and cache
Blue highlighted part is CPU undervolted result
CPU temp - Cinebench R15 multi core
Max 95C, ~3.4-3.6GHz, ~80W
Max 95C, 3.8-3.9GHz, 82-85W, 1200+cb
Almost full fans for both
CPU temp - Aida64 FPU 70W
Max 90C, 3.0-3.1GHz
Max 90C, 3.3-3.4GHz
Almost max fans for both
GPU temp - Unigine Valley (extreme HD profile)
Clock speed fluctuates, at least 100MHz higher than boost clock (1440MHz)
Max 75C, max 125W
Slightly reduced fans (compared to almost max fans)
FPU (with undervolt) + Valley (extreme HD) with max fans
CPU: Max 94C, 3.0-3.1GHz, ~50W
GPU: Max 75C, same clock speed behaviour, ~120W
Apex Legends 1080p all max, 6GB budget, 90 FOV (with undervolt)
Mid 70s, clock speed fluctuates at 3+GHz, 20-25W (see video below for explanation of the clock speed fluctuation)
GPU: Max 75C, clock speed fluctuates mostly sit at 1500-1600MHz range, 115+W
Slightly reduced fans
Unigine Valley benchmark (extreme HD, 1 run only)
FPS: 95.9
Score: 4011
The chassis stay quite cool when it’s under load. Core temp differential is ~10C
In Illegear Command Center, there are 2 modes to choose from: Game mode or office mode. Office mode gives you access to control fan speed but has a 35W CPU power limit.
There are also 4 power profiles to choose from:
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High performance (same with Windows)
Game
Equilibrium
Power saving
Game
Equilibrium
Power saving
Here's a good video on how all the power setting works. Very informative. Basically, just keep it to game mode and equilibrium
The included power adapter is a 230W unit from Chicony. Take note that temps might be a little higher when running dual channel memory.
Part 4: Miscellaneous
The laptop is very portable for a 17-inch gaming laptop while not sacrificing thickness for cooling room – 2.35kg and 25mm thickness. The footprint is also relatively small, just like typical 15 inch device.
You need to press about 2 seconds to power on the laptop.
For the pictures of positioning of ports, cooling solution etc, you can refer Notebookcheck review on XMG Neo 17
Other settings in Illegear Command Center:
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Power source for display – turn off internal display
Display colour profile: Standard, Gaming, Video, Reading, Customize
Light Effect: Keyboard backlight, LED light bar
Other settings: Windows key lock, Hibernation USB charging, Discrete GPU ‘on’, Turn off OSD, Gamer mode
Display colour profile: Standard, Gaming, Video, Reading, Customize
Light Effect: Keyboard backlight, LED light bar
Other settings: Windows key lock, Hibernation USB charging, Discrete GPU ‘on’, Turn off OSD, Gamer mode
Update: i7-9750H model
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Main specs:
Since it’s a 2060 model, I will not perform GPU thermal test due to less heat output.
Notes:
1. BIOS N.1.52, EC 2.04.09
2. GPU driver tested is 430.64
3. This model gets the new Illegear Command Center with GPU boost feature (except for 2070 model)
4. 2060 model will also get 230W Chicony charger for 9th gen CPU
5. Optional 63Wh battery upgrade is available
6. Other notes from previous thermal testing that are not mentioned also apply here
7. To get best performance+thermal result for GPU, you need to undervolt GPU and use turbo mode
Undervolt profile: CPU core+cache -100mv. You can undervolt GPU if you want, but it takes time. Blue highlighted part is the undervolted result.
CPU temp - Cinebench R15 multi core (1 run)
Max 84C, 75-77W, 4GHz, 1250+cb
Max 81C, 68-69W, 4GHz, 1250+cb
~37dBA
CPU temp - Aida64 FPU 70W
Max 84C, 3.4-3.5GHz
Max 84C, 3.6+GHz
~35dBA
Time Spy (Turbo mode, 1 run):
Score: 6817, Graphics: 6811
Fire Strike (Turbo mode, 1 run):
Score: 15862, Graphics: 17694
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i7-9750H
RTX 2060 6GB
16GB 2666MHz RAM (dual channel)
512GB NVMe M.2 SSD
144Hz IPS
Intel 9560
W10 Trial
Kryonaut repaste and display colour calibration included
RTX 2060 6GB
16GB 2666MHz RAM (dual channel)
512GB NVMe M.2 SSD
144Hz IPS
Intel 9560
W10 Trial
Kryonaut repaste and display colour calibration included
Since it’s a 2060 model, I will not perform GPU thermal test due to less heat output.
Notes:
1. BIOS N.1.52, EC 2.04.09
2. GPU driver tested is 430.64
3. This model gets the new Illegear Command Center with GPU boost feature (except for 2070 model)
4. 2060 model will also get 230W Chicony charger for 9th gen CPU
5. Optional 63Wh battery upgrade is available
6. Other notes from previous thermal testing that are not mentioned also apply here
7. To get best performance+thermal result for GPU, you need to undervolt GPU and use turbo mode
Undervolt profile: CPU core+cache -100mv. You can undervolt GPU if you want, but it takes time. Blue highlighted part is the undervolted result.
CPU temp - Cinebench R15 multi core (1 run)
Max 84C, 75-77W, 4GHz, 1250+cb
Max 81C, 68-69W, 4GHz, 1250+cb
~37dBA
CPU temp - Aida64 FPU 70W
Max 84C, 3.4-3.5GHz
Max 84C, 3.6+GHz
~35dBA
Time Spy (Turbo mode, 1 run):
Score: 6817, Graphics: 6811
Fire Strike (Turbo mode, 1 run):
Score: 15862, Graphics: 17694
Update: 2080MQ model
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Main specs:
Notes:
- PL1 – 70W, PL2 – 85W (turbo mode), PL1 – 100W, PL2 – 100W (game mode)
- BIOS N.1.00, EC 2.04.09
- GPU driver tested is 430.86
- Test is conducted in an A/C room (ambient 20-22C)
- Game mode and turbo mode are used (game mode for CB15 and Aida FPU only) - new Illegear Command Center with GPU boost feature
- BD PROCHOT for CPU is 95C
- Max fan noise is ~52dBA
- Laptop is plugged in. The fans take a while to speed up when load is applied
- Optional 63Wh battery upgrade is available
Undervolt profile: CPU core+cache -100mv. You can undervolt GPU if you want, but it takes time. Blue highlighted part is the undervolted result.
CPU temp - Cinebench R15 multi core (1 run) - temperature taken from first run
Max 91C, 87-90W, 1250+cb
Max 86C, 78-82W, 1250+cb
~49dBA
CPU temp - Aida64 FPU 100W
Max 95C, ~3.5GHz
Max 95C, ~3.6GHz
~50dBA
GPU temp - Unigine Valley (Extreme HD profile)
1680-1830MHz - 1830MHz is max at 0.95V
Max 73C, ~41dBA
FPU + Valley (extreme HD) with max fans
CPU: Max 95C, 3.07-3.1GHz, 54-57W - undervolt will have same result
GPU: Max 76C, 1680-1830MHz
CSGO 1080p all max - manual PL2 set to 45W, otherwise power consumption will have 60+W spikes
CPU: Max 87C, 3.2-4GHz, max 45W
GPU: Max 73C, 1815/1830MHz
~41dBA
CSGO 1080p all max with max fans - manual PL2 45W
CPU: Max 80C, 3.2-4GHz, max 45W
GPU: Max 66C, 1830MHz
CPU (UV): Max 76C, 3.2-4GHz, max 45W
GPU: Max 63C, 1830MHz
Apex Legends 1080p all max, 8GB budget, 90 FOV, training map with max fans - manual PL2 45W
CPU: 78-87C, 3.4-4GHz, 24-36W
GPU: Max 82C, 1710-1815MHz
CPU (UV): 76-82C, 3-4GHz, 24-28W
GPU: Max 81-82C, 1710-1815MHz
Time Spy (Turbo mode, 1 run):
Score: 8420, Graphics: 9181
Fire Strike (Turbo mode, 1 run):
Score: 19014, Graphics: 23844
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i7-9750H
RTX 2080 Max-Q 8GB
16GB 2666MHz RAM (single channel)
256GB Samsung PM981 M.2 SSD
144Hz IPS
Intel 9560
W10 Trial
Kryonaut repaste and display colour calibration included
RTX 2080 Max-Q 8GB
16GB 2666MHz RAM (single channel)
256GB Samsung PM981 M.2 SSD
144Hz IPS
Intel 9560
W10 Trial
Kryonaut repaste and display colour calibration included
Notes:
- PL1 – 70W, PL2 – 85W (turbo mode), PL1 – 100W, PL2 – 100W (game mode)
- BIOS N.1.00, EC 2.04.09
- GPU driver tested is 430.86
- Test is conducted in an A/C room (ambient 20-22C)
- Game mode and turbo mode are used (game mode for CB15 and Aida FPU only) - new Illegear Command Center with GPU boost feature
- BD PROCHOT for CPU is 95C
- Max fan noise is ~52dBA
- Laptop is plugged in. The fans take a while to speed up when load is applied
- Optional 63Wh battery upgrade is available
Undervolt profile: CPU core+cache -100mv. You can undervolt GPU if you want, but it takes time. Blue highlighted part is the undervolted result.
CPU temp - Cinebench R15 multi core (1 run) - temperature taken from first run
Max 91C, 87-90W, 1250+cb
Max 86C, 78-82W, 1250+cb
~49dBA
CPU temp - Aida64 FPU 100W
Max 95C, ~3.5GHz
Max 95C, ~3.6GHz
~50dBA
GPU temp - Unigine Valley (Extreme HD profile)
1680-1830MHz - 1830MHz is max at 0.95V
Max 73C, ~41dBA
FPU + Valley (extreme HD) with max fans
CPU: Max 95C, 3.07-3.1GHz, 54-57W - undervolt will have same result
GPU: Max 76C, 1680-1830MHz
CSGO 1080p all max - manual PL2 set to 45W, otherwise power consumption will have 60+W spikes
CPU: Max 87C, 3.2-4GHz, max 45W
GPU: Max 73C, 1815/1830MHz
~41dBA
CSGO 1080p all max with max fans - manual PL2 45W
CPU: Max 80C, 3.2-4GHz, max 45W
GPU: Max 66C, 1830MHz
CPU (UV): Max 76C, 3.2-4GHz, max 45W
GPU: Max 63C, 1830MHz
Apex Legends 1080p all max, 8GB budget, 90 FOV, training map with max fans - manual PL2 45W
CPU: 78-87C, 3.4-4GHz, 24-36W
GPU: Max 82C, 1710-1815MHz
CPU (UV): 76-82C, 3-4GHz, 24-28W
GPU: Max 81-82C, 1710-1815MHz
Time Spy (Turbo mode, 1 run):
Score: 8420, Graphics: 9181
Fire Strike (Turbo mode, 1 run):
Score: 19014, Graphics: 23844
Conclusion: Well-cooled and well-built 17 inch RTX light weight gaming laptop
Pros:
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Portable for a 17 inch gaming laptop
Good build quality, excellent cooling
144Hz display
Plenty of ports
Optional battery upgrade
Good build quality, excellent cooling
144Hz display
Plenty of ports
Optional battery upgrade
Cons:
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Keycaps have a bit of wobbling - just a minor issue tbh
Audio needs tuning
Audio needs tuning
Onyx
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UPDATE: revisited with 2070MQ GPU, click here
Main specs:
A few notes before reading:
1. This is a quick review; thus, not everything will be covered in here
2. This review will mainly focus on thermals instead of performance
3. I will often compare this model with its bigger brother – Selenite
Product page: Illegear Onyx 9th gen, Illegear Onyx
Part 1: Build quality, input devices
Build quality is excellent. If I had to nit-pick, I wish the chassis could be a bit thicker not only for more rigid feel (not to say that it’s flimsy) but also for better cooling performance. The lid has aluminium brush on top of it. There is only little flex when force is applied at the center. There is some flex when the lid is twisted due to the thinness. The lid is a bit wobbling but not a big deal. You can open the lid with 1 hand. The body is all metal build. There is no flex on the entire keyboard deck and it cannot be twisted with force. It feels slightly more solid compared to Selenite.
The mechanical keyboard (GENESWITCH v2, cap 2, brown switch) has low actuation force (slightly higher than the one in Selenite) and 2.8mm key travel. The switches are surprisingly quiet when pressed. Should be usable in quiet conditions such as in library. Like the Raven, the layout is a bit special (especially right CTRL and SHIFT keys) and I can sometimes mistype the up key when trying to press right shift. You can set the effect, brightness and speed of the keyboard lighting via Illegear Command Center.
The Clickpad has Precision driver. The plastic surface has satisfactory smoothness but can be a bit rough when you have wet/oily fingers. Like the Selenite, you can disable the clickpad by double tapping the left top corner of the clickpad. The L/R click feel is OK, nothing special. One thing to note is, the clickpad is aligned slightly to the right of the keyboard space bar which makes it more centralized.
Part 2: Display, Audio, Battery
The display is a 144Hz IPS panel from BOE (display ID BOE07AF). As you can expect from a high refresh rate panel, everything feels smooth. It gets bright enough, colours are vibrant, has low response times and good contrast.
The 2 down firing speakers has good audio (with a bit of bass too); however, you need to tune the audio via Sound Blaster software (otherwise the sound quality is terrible). Tuned audio profile: Music profile, bass 0, treble 3, surround 80, crystalizer 50, bass 40, smart vol 0, dialog+ off. Volume is a bit soft/quiet. Overall, the sound quality is slightly richer than the one in Selenite (with tuned audio profile too).
I don’t have time to test the battery life, however don’t expect much from the 46.74Wh battery.
Part 3: Cooling performance
The cooling design consists of 3 heatpipes with 2 shared on CPU+GPU. The heatsink is stretched to both left and right.
Notes on all thermal testing:
CPU Undervolt profile: -100mv on core and cache
Blue highlighted part is CPU undervolted result
CPU temp - Cinebench R15 multi core
Max 95C, 3.6-3.7GHz, 81-84W
Almost max fans
Max 90C, 3.9GHz, ~75W, 1150+cb
Slightly reduced fans (compared to almost max fans)
CPU temp - Aida64 FPU 70W
Max 90C, 3.0-3.1GHz
Max 90C, 3.3-3.4GHz
Almost max fans for both
GPU temp - Unigine Valley (extreme HD profile)
Clock speed fluctuates, about 100-500MHz higher than boost clock (1200MHz)
Max 74C, max 95W
Slightly reduced fans
FPU (with undervolt) + Valley (extreme HD) with max fans
CPU: Max 95C, 3.0-3.2GHz, 49-52W
GPU: Max 78C, same clock speed behaviour, max 85W
Apex Legends 1080p all max, 6GB budget, 90 FOV (with undervolt)
CPU: Max 86C, clock speed fluctuates - 3.0-3.9GHz, 24-33W (see video below for explanation of the clock speed fluctuation)
GPU: Max 77C, +100-200MHz, max 85W
Slightly reduced fans
Unigine Valley benchmark (extreme HD, 1 run only)
FPS: 75.6
Score: 3164
The chassis will get warm (upper part – keyboard area, and bottom part) when it’s under load. However, the bottom part doesn’t get quite as hot as most reviews said (60+C). Maybe it’s due to the low ambient temp. Core temp differential is ~7C.
In Illegear Command Center, there are 2 modes to choose from: Game mode or office mode. Office mode gives you access to control fan speed but has a 35W CPU power limit.
There are also 4 power profiles to choose from:
Here's a good video on how all the power setting works. Very informative. Basically, just keep it to game mode and equilibrium
The included power adapter is an 180W unit from FSP. Take note that temps might be a little higher when running dual channel memory.
Part 4: Miscellaneous
The laptop is thin and light – 1.95kg and 20mm thickness. The footprint is also relatively small.
You need to press about 2 seconds to power on the laptop.
For the pictures of positioning of ports, cooling solution etc, you can refer Notebookcheck review on XMG Neo 15
Other settings in Illegear Command Center:
Update: i7-9750H with RTX 2060 and 63Wh battery
Main specs:
Battery life test:
Settings: YT 720p video with Chrome (force iGPU), 25% screen brightness, disabled turbo, stock undervolt, best battery mode, no RGB lights, minimal background process
Result: Lasted around 5 hours
Notes:
1. BIOS N.1.52, EC 2.04.09
2. GPU driver tested is 430.64
3. This model gets the new Illegear Command Center with GPU boost feature
4. 2060 model will also get 230W Chicony charger for 9th gen CPU
5. Other notes from previous thermal testing that are not mentioned also apply here
6. To get best performance+thermal result for GPU, you need to undervolt GPU and use turbo mode
Undervolt profile: CPU core+cache -100mv. You can undervolt GPU if you want, but it takes time. Blue highlighted part is the undervolted result.
CPU temp - Cinebench R15 multi core (1 run)
Max 91C, ~85W, ~4GHz, max fans, 1250+cb
Max 87C, 77-78W, 4GHz, ~52-54dBA, 1250+cb
CPU temp - Aida64 FPU 70W
Max 90C, 3.2GHz
Max 88C, 3.3-3.4GHz
Max fans
GPU temp - Unigine Valley (extreme HD profile with turbo mode)
Clock speed fluctuates: 1650+MHz
Max 81C, max fans, ~80W
FPU + Valley (extreme HD) with max fans
CPU (UV): Max 95C, 2.9-3GHz, 45-47W
GPU: Max 80C, clock speed fluctuates: at least +100MHz from turbo clock (1200MHz), ~80W
FPU + Valley (extreme HD+turbo) with max fans
CPU (UV): Max 95C, 2.4-2.5GHz, ~31W
GPU: Max 86C, 1550+MHz
Apex Legends all max, 6GB VRAM, 90 FOV
CPU (UV): Max 85C, 3-4GHz, 24-33W
GPU: Max 76C, clock speed fluctuates: at least +100MHz from turbo clock, ~80W
~50dBA
Apex Legends all max, 6GB VRAM, 90 FOV with turbo mode
CPU (UV): Max 92C, max 3.9GHz (fluctuate), 26-32W
GPU: Max 86C, 1560+MHz
Max fans
Time Spy (Turbo mode, 1 run):
Score: 6365, Graphics: 6753
Fire Strike (Turbo mode, 1 run):
Score: 13377, Graphics: 17296
Conclusion: Decent thin and light RTX laptop
Pros:
Cons:
Main specs:
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i7-8750H
RTX 2060 6GB (90W probably)
16GB 2666MHz RAM single channel
Samsung PM981 256GB
Intel 9560
W10 Trial
Mechanical keyboard (brown switch)
144Hz IPS
Kryonaut repaste and display colour calibration included
Based on TongFang GK5CP0Z chassis
RTX 2060 6GB (90W probably)
16GB 2666MHz RAM single channel
Samsung PM981 256GB
Intel 9560
W10 Trial
Mechanical keyboard (brown switch)
144Hz IPS
Kryonaut repaste and display colour calibration included
Based on TongFang GK5CP0Z chassis
A few notes before reading:
1. This is a quick review; thus, not everything will be covered in here
2. This review will mainly focus on thermals instead of performance
3. I will often compare this model with its bigger brother – Selenite
Product page: Illegear Onyx 9th gen, Illegear Onyx
Part 1: Build quality, input devices
Build quality is excellent. If I had to nit-pick, I wish the chassis could be a bit thicker not only for more rigid feel (not to say that it’s flimsy) but also for better cooling performance. The lid has aluminium brush on top of it. There is only little flex when force is applied at the center. There is some flex when the lid is twisted due to the thinness. The lid is a bit wobbling but not a big deal. You can open the lid with 1 hand. The body is all metal build. There is no flex on the entire keyboard deck and it cannot be twisted with force. It feels slightly more solid compared to Selenite.
The mechanical keyboard (GENESWITCH v2, cap 2, brown switch) has low actuation force (slightly higher than the one in Selenite) and 2.8mm key travel. The switches are surprisingly quiet when pressed. Should be usable in quiet conditions such as in library. Like the Raven, the layout is a bit special (especially right CTRL and SHIFT keys) and I can sometimes mistype the up key when trying to press right shift. You can set the effect, brightness and speed of the keyboard lighting via Illegear Command Center.
The Clickpad has Precision driver. The plastic surface has satisfactory smoothness but can be a bit rough when you have wet/oily fingers. Like the Selenite, you can disable the clickpad by double tapping the left top corner of the clickpad. The L/R click feel is OK, nothing special. One thing to note is, the clickpad is aligned slightly to the right of the keyboard space bar which makes it more centralized.
Part 2: Display, Audio, Battery
The display is a 144Hz IPS panel from BOE (display ID BOE07AF). As you can expect from a high refresh rate panel, everything feels smooth. It gets bright enough, colours are vibrant, has low response times and good contrast.
The 2 down firing speakers has good audio (with a bit of bass too); however, you need to tune the audio via Sound Blaster software (otherwise the sound quality is terrible). Tuned audio profile: Music profile, bass 0, treble 3, surround 80, crystalizer 50, bass 40, smart vol 0, dialog+ off. Volume is a bit soft/quiet. Overall, the sound quality is slightly richer than the one in Selenite (with tuned audio profile too).
I don’t have time to test the battery life, however don’t expect much from the 46.74Wh battery.
Part 3: Cooling performance
The cooling design consists of 3 heatpipes with 2 shared on CPU+GPU. The heatsink is stretched to both left and right.
Notes on all thermal testing:
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PL1 – 70W, PL2 – 85W
BIOS N.1.01, EC 1.03.09
GPU driver tested is 418.91
Test is conducted in a A/C room (ambient 20-22C)
Game mode and equilibrium mode are used (more on that later)
Laptop is plugged in. The fans take a while to speed up when load is applied
Max fan noise is almost 60dBA
BIOS N.1.01, EC 1.03.09
GPU driver tested is 418.91
Test is conducted in a A/C room (ambient 20-22C)
Game mode and equilibrium mode are used (more on that later)
Laptop is plugged in. The fans take a while to speed up when load is applied
Max fan noise is almost 60dBA
CPU Undervolt profile: -100mv on core and cache
Blue highlighted part is CPU undervolted result
CPU temp - Cinebench R15 multi core
Max 95C, 3.6-3.7GHz, 81-84W
Almost max fans
Max 90C, 3.9GHz, ~75W, 1150+cb
Slightly reduced fans (compared to almost max fans)
CPU temp - Aida64 FPU 70W
Max 90C, 3.0-3.1GHz
Max 90C, 3.3-3.4GHz
Almost max fans for both
GPU temp - Unigine Valley (extreme HD profile)
Clock speed fluctuates, about 100-500MHz higher than boost clock (1200MHz)
Max 74C, max 95W
Slightly reduced fans
FPU (with undervolt) + Valley (extreme HD) with max fans
CPU: Max 95C, 3.0-3.2GHz, 49-52W
GPU: Max 78C, same clock speed behaviour, max 85W
Apex Legends 1080p all max, 6GB budget, 90 FOV (with undervolt)
CPU: Max 86C, clock speed fluctuates - 3.0-3.9GHz, 24-33W (see video below for explanation of the clock speed fluctuation)
GPU: Max 77C, +100-200MHz, max 85W
Slightly reduced fans
Unigine Valley benchmark (extreme HD, 1 run only)
FPS: 75.6
Score: 3164
The chassis will get warm (upper part – keyboard area, and bottom part) when it’s under load. However, the bottom part doesn’t get quite as hot as most reviews said (60+C). Maybe it’s due to the low ambient temp. Core temp differential is ~7C.
In Illegear Command Center, there are 2 modes to choose from: Game mode or office mode. Office mode gives you access to control fan speed but has a 35W CPU power limit.
There are also 4 power profiles to choose from:
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High performance (same with Windows)
Game
Equilibrium
Power saving
Game
Equilibrium
Power saving
Here's a good video on how all the power setting works. Very informative. Basically, just keep it to game mode and equilibrium
The included power adapter is an 180W unit from FSP. Take note that temps might be a little higher when running dual channel memory.
Part 4: Miscellaneous
The laptop is thin and light – 1.95kg and 20mm thickness. The footprint is also relatively small.
You need to press about 2 seconds to power on the laptop.
For the pictures of positioning of ports, cooling solution etc, you can refer Notebookcheck review on XMG Neo 15
Other settings in Illegear Command Center:
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Power source for display – turn off internal display
Display colour profile: Standard, Gaming, Video, Reading, Customize
Light Effect: Keyboard backlight, LED light bar
Other settings: Windows key lock, Hibernation USB charging, Discrete GPU ‘on’, Turn off OSD, Gamer mode
Display colour profile: Standard, Gaming, Video, Reading, Customize
Light Effect: Keyboard backlight, LED light bar
Other settings: Windows key lock, Hibernation USB charging, Discrete GPU ‘on’, Turn off OSD, Gamer mode
Update: i7-9750H with RTX 2060 and 63Wh battery
Main specs:
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i7-9750H
RTX 2060 6GB
16GB 2666MHz RAM (dual channel)
512GB NVMe M.2 SSD
144Hz IPS
Intel 9560
W10 Trial
Kryonaut repaste and display colour calibration included
RTX 2060 6GB
16GB 2666MHz RAM (dual channel)
512GB NVMe M.2 SSD
144Hz IPS
Intel 9560
W10 Trial
Kryonaut repaste and display colour calibration included
Battery life test:
Settings: YT 720p video with Chrome (force iGPU), 25% screen brightness, disabled turbo, stock undervolt, best battery mode, no RGB lights, minimal background process
Result: Lasted around 5 hours
Notes:
1. BIOS N.1.52, EC 2.04.09
2. GPU driver tested is 430.64
3. This model gets the new Illegear Command Center with GPU boost feature
4. 2060 model will also get 230W Chicony charger for 9th gen CPU
5. Other notes from previous thermal testing that are not mentioned also apply here
6. To get best performance+thermal result for GPU, you need to undervolt GPU and use turbo mode
Undervolt profile: CPU core+cache -100mv. You can undervolt GPU if you want, but it takes time. Blue highlighted part is the undervolted result.
CPU temp - Cinebench R15 multi core (1 run)
Max 91C, ~85W, ~4GHz, max fans, 1250+cb
Max 87C, 77-78W, 4GHz, ~52-54dBA, 1250+cb
CPU temp - Aida64 FPU 70W
Max 90C, 3.2GHz
Max 88C, 3.3-3.4GHz
Max fans
GPU temp - Unigine Valley (extreme HD profile with turbo mode)
Clock speed fluctuates: 1650+MHz
Max 81C, max fans, ~80W
FPU + Valley (extreme HD) with max fans
CPU (UV): Max 95C, 2.9-3GHz, 45-47W
GPU: Max 80C, clock speed fluctuates: at least +100MHz from turbo clock (1200MHz), ~80W
FPU + Valley (extreme HD+turbo) with max fans
CPU (UV): Max 95C, 2.4-2.5GHz, ~31W
GPU: Max 86C, 1550+MHz
Apex Legends all max, 6GB VRAM, 90 FOV
CPU (UV): Max 85C, 3-4GHz, 24-33W
GPU: Max 76C, clock speed fluctuates: at least +100MHz from turbo clock, ~80W
~50dBA
Apex Legends all max, 6GB VRAM, 90 FOV with turbo mode
CPU (UV): Max 92C, max 3.9GHz (fluctuate), 26-32W
GPU: Max 86C, 1560+MHz
Max fans
Time Spy (Turbo mode, 1 run):
Score: 6365, Graphics: 6753
Fire Strike (Turbo mode, 1 run):
Score: 13377, Graphics: 17296
Conclusion: Decent thin and light RTX laptop
Pros:
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Thin and light gaming laptop with small footprint
Reasonable temps
Excellent build quality
144Hz display
Plenty of ports
Great typing feel
Optional battery upgrade
Reasonable temps
Excellent build quality
144Hz display
Plenty of ports
Great typing feel
Optional battery upgrade
Cons:
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Runs a bit hot as expected in small chassis, loud fans under load
Audio needs tuning
Audio needs tuning
Rogue
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Main specs:
This is a quick review; thus, not everything will be covered in here. Also, this review will mainly focus on thermals instead of performance.
Product page: Illegear Rogue
Part 1: Build quality, input devices
Build quality is good overall. The plastic lid has some flex on the middle of the lid cover when force is applied. Twisting the lid is possible but the flex isn’t too bad. The lid is noticeably wobbling – probably due to QC. You can barely open the lid with single hand.
The body uses all plastic build (soft touch). Despite that, there is little to flex on the entire keyboard+palm rest. Most flex is at the part between keyboard and clickpad, but the amount of flex is very little. There is some flex at the bottom bezel when being pressed in.
The membrane keyboard has a bit of mushiness. Key travel is ~1.7mm, actuation force is 55-60g. You can set the effect, brightness and speed of the keyboard lighting via Illegear Command Center.
The Precision clickpad has plastic surface and it’s slightly elevated to the back. Wet fingers will result in rough surface. Movements are quite precise. The L/R clicks requires moderate pressure to be pressed and the click noise is OK. Not bad overall. You can disable the clickpad by double tapping the left top corner of the clickpad.
Part 2: Display, Audio, Battery
The display is the same 144Hz IPS panel found in Selenite - BOE07B6. As you can expect from a high refresh rate panel, everything feels smooth. It gets bright enough, colours are vibrant and has good contrast.
The 2 down firing speakers has good enough audio only if you tune the audio via Sound Blaster software.
Example of a tuned audio profile: Bass 0, treble 6, surround 80, crystalizer 90, bass 20, smart vol 80 dialog+ 60. Volume is a bit soft/quiet.
I don’t have time to test the battery life, however don’t expect much from the 46.74Wh battery (there is optional 63Wh upgrade which sacrifices 2.5 inch bay).
Part 3: Cooling performance
The cooling design consists of 3 heatpipes with 1 shared on CPU+GPU (same with Selenite). The heatsink is stretched to both left and right.
Notes on all thermal testing:
Undervolt profile: CPU core+cache -100mv. You can undervolt GPU if you want, but it takes time. Blue highlighted part is the undervolted result.
CPU temp - Cinebench R15 multi core (1 run)
Max 88C, 74-75W, 3.8-3.9GHz, 1230+cb
Max 87C, 74-75W, 1280+cb
~38dBA
CPU temp - Aida64 FPU 60W
Max 82C, 3.05GHz
Max 82C, 3.2GHz
~35dBA
GPU temp - Unigine Valley (extreme HD profile)
Clock speed fluctuates: at least +100MHz higher than boost clock (1590MHz)
Max 67C, ~80W
~34dBA
GPU temp - Unigine Valley (extreme HD profile with turbo mode)
Clock speed fluctuates: at least +200MHz higher than boost clock
Max 75C
~36dBA
FPU + Valley (extreme HD+turbo) with max fans
CPU (UV): Max 88C, 3.1-3.2GHz, 50W (PL1 will drop to 50W)
GPU: Max 75C, same clock speed behaviour
Time Spy (Turbo mode, 1 run):
Score: 6057, Graphics: 5941
Fire Strike (Turbo mode, 1 run):
Score: 13664, Graphics: 15305
The chassis stays quite cool while under load.
There is noticeable uneven core temp, therefore CPU peak temp might be higher.
To get best performance+thermal result for GPU, you need to undervolt GPU and use turbo mode.
In Illegear Command Center, there are 3 modes to choose from: Turbo, Game or Office mode. Turbo mode increases TDP/power consumption of GPU to allow faster GPU clock speed. Office mode gives you access to control fan speed but has a 35W CPU power limit. There are 4 power profiles: High performance (same with Windows), Game, Equilibrium, Power saving.
The included power adapter is an 180W unit from FSP. Take note that temps might be a little higher when running dual channel memory.
Part 4: Miscellaneous
The laptop is thin and light for a 17-inch gaming laptop – 2.35kg and 27mm thickness. The footprint is also relatively small.
Conclusion: Well-cooled 17 inch light weight gaming laptop with almost no flaws
Pros:
Cons:
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i7-9750H
GTX 1660TI 6GB
16GB 2666MHz RAM (dual channel)
512GB NVMe M.2 SSD
144Hz IPS
Intel 9560
W10 Trial
Kryonaut repaste and display colour calibration included
Based on TongFang GK7CP6R chassis
GTX 1660TI 6GB
16GB 2666MHz RAM (dual channel)
512GB NVMe M.2 SSD
144Hz IPS
Intel 9560
W10 Trial
Kryonaut repaste and display colour calibration included
Based on TongFang GK7CP6R chassis
This is a quick review; thus, not everything will be covered in here. Also, this review will mainly focus on thermals instead of performance.
Product page: Illegear Rogue
Part 1: Build quality, input devices
Build quality is good overall. The plastic lid has some flex on the middle of the lid cover when force is applied. Twisting the lid is possible but the flex isn’t too bad. The lid is noticeably wobbling – probably due to QC. You can barely open the lid with single hand.
The body uses all plastic build (soft touch). Despite that, there is little to flex on the entire keyboard+palm rest. Most flex is at the part between keyboard and clickpad, but the amount of flex is very little. There is some flex at the bottom bezel when being pressed in.
The membrane keyboard has a bit of mushiness. Key travel is ~1.7mm, actuation force is 55-60g. You can set the effect, brightness and speed of the keyboard lighting via Illegear Command Center.
The Precision clickpad has plastic surface and it’s slightly elevated to the back. Wet fingers will result in rough surface. Movements are quite precise. The L/R clicks requires moderate pressure to be pressed and the click noise is OK. Not bad overall. You can disable the clickpad by double tapping the left top corner of the clickpad.
Part 2: Display, Audio, Battery
The display is the same 144Hz IPS panel found in Selenite - BOE07B6. As you can expect from a high refresh rate panel, everything feels smooth. It gets bright enough, colours are vibrant and has good contrast.
The 2 down firing speakers has good enough audio only if you tune the audio via Sound Blaster software.
Example of a tuned audio profile: Bass 0, treble 6, surround 80, crystalizer 90, bass 20, smart vol 80 dialog+ 60. Volume is a bit soft/quiet.
I don’t have time to test the battery life, however don’t expect much from the 46.74Wh battery (there is optional 63Wh upgrade which sacrifices 2.5 inch bay).
Part 3: Cooling performance
The cooling design consists of 3 heatpipes with 1 shared on CPU+GPU (same with Selenite). The heatsink is stretched to both left and right.
Notes on all thermal testing:
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PL1 – 60W, PL2 – 75W
BIOS N.1.01, EC 1.05.10
GPU driver tested is 430.64
BD PROCHOT for CPU is 95C
Test is conducted in an A/C room (ambient 22C)
Game mode and equilibrium mode are used (turbo mode in some tests)
Laptop is plugged in. The fans take a while to speed up when load is applied
Max fan noise is ~51dBA
BIOS N.1.01, EC 1.05.10
GPU driver tested is 430.64
BD PROCHOT for CPU is 95C
Test is conducted in an A/C room (ambient 22C)
Game mode and equilibrium mode are used (turbo mode in some tests)
Laptop is plugged in. The fans take a while to speed up when load is applied
Max fan noise is ~51dBA
Undervolt profile: CPU core+cache -100mv. You can undervolt GPU if you want, but it takes time. Blue highlighted part is the undervolted result.
CPU temp - Cinebench R15 multi core (1 run)
Max 88C, 74-75W, 3.8-3.9GHz, 1230+cb
Max 87C, 74-75W, 1280+cb
~38dBA
CPU temp - Aida64 FPU 60W
Max 82C, 3.05GHz
Max 82C, 3.2GHz
~35dBA
GPU temp - Unigine Valley (extreme HD profile)
Clock speed fluctuates: at least +100MHz higher than boost clock (1590MHz)
Max 67C, ~80W
~34dBA
GPU temp - Unigine Valley (extreme HD profile with turbo mode)
Clock speed fluctuates: at least +200MHz higher than boost clock
Max 75C
~36dBA
FPU + Valley (extreme HD+turbo) with max fans
CPU (UV): Max 88C, 3.1-3.2GHz, 50W (PL1 will drop to 50W)
GPU: Max 75C, same clock speed behaviour
Time Spy (Turbo mode, 1 run):
Score: 6057, Graphics: 5941
Fire Strike (Turbo mode, 1 run):
Score: 13664, Graphics: 15305
The chassis stays quite cool while under load.
There is noticeable uneven core temp, therefore CPU peak temp might be higher.
To get best performance+thermal result for GPU, you need to undervolt GPU and use turbo mode.
In Illegear Command Center, there are 3 modes to choose from: Turbo, Game or Office mode. Turbo mode increases TDP/power consumption of GPU to allow faster GPU clock speed. Office mode gives you access to control fan speed but has a 35W CPU power limit. There are 4 power profiles: High performance (same with Windows), Game, Equilibrium, Power saving.
The included power adapter is an 180W unit from FSP. Take note that temps might be a little higher when running dual channel memory.
Part 4: Miscellaneous
The laptop is thin and light for a 17-inch gaming laptop – 2.35kg and 27mm thickness. The footprint is also relatively small.
Conclusion: Well-cooled 17 inch light weight gaming laptop with almost no flaws
Pros:
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Well-built, well-cooled
Portable for a 17 inch gaming laptop
144Hz display
Plenty of ports
Priced competitvely
Comes with optional battery upgrade (no 2.5 inch bay)
Portable for a 17 inch gaming laptop
144Hz display
Plenty of ports
Priced competitvely
Comes with optional battery upgrade (no 2.5 inch bay)
Cons:
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Audio needs tuning
Prodigy
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UPDATE: revisited, click here
Main specs:
This is a quick review; thus, not everything will be covered in here. Also, this review will mainly focus on thermals instead of performance.
Product page: Illegear Prodigy
Part 1: Build quality, input devices
Build quality is good overall. The lid has metal brush on it, as a result applying pressure on the middle of the lid cover don’t result in much flex. Twisting the lid is possible but the flex isn’t too bad. The hinges feel well tuned – only a bit of wobbling. You can open the lid with single hand.
The body uses all plastic build (soft touch). Despite that, there is little to flex on the entire keyboard+palm rest. There is some flex at the camera area (the camera is a ‘nosecam’ BTW) when being pressed in.
The membrane keyboard has a bit of mushiness but remains clicky. Key travel is ~1.5mm, actuation force is 55-60g. You can set the effect, brightness and speed of the keyboard lighting via Illegear Command Center.
The Precision clickpad has plastic surface but wet fingers don’t result in rough surface. Movements are quite precise. However, the L/R clicks has loud noise and requires some force when pressed in which feels a little cheap. You can disable the clickpad by double tapping the left top corner of the clickpad. The clickpad is aligned slightly to the right of the keyboard space bar to make it more centered.
Part 2: Display, Audio, Battery
The display is a 144Hz IPS panel from LG (LGD05C0, which is very common panel). Movements in the display feel smooth. It gets bright enough and colours are vibrant. Contrast is OK.
The 2 down firing speakers has good enough audio only if you tune the audio via Sound Blaster software.
Example of a tuned audio profile: Bass 0, treble 6, surround 80, crystalizer 50, bass 20, smart vol 70 dialog+ 70. Volume is a bit soft/quiet.
I don’t have time to test the battery life, however don’t expect much from the 46.74Wh battery (there is optional 63Wh upgrade which sacrifices 2.5 inch bay).
Part 3: Cooling performance
The cooling design consists of 3 heatpipes with 2 shared on CPU+GPU (same with Onyx). The heatsink is stretched to both left and right.
Notes on all thermal testing:
Undervolt profile: CPU core+cache -100mv. You can undervolt GPU if you want, but it takes time. Blue highlighted part is the undervolted result.
CPU temp - Cinebench R15 multi core (1 run)
Max 92C, 71-74W ~1120cb
Max 92C, 74-75W, ~1190cb
~54dBA
CPU temp - Aida64 FPU 60W
Max 88C, 2.9-3GHz
Max 88C, 3-3.1GHz
~48-52dBA
GPU temp - Unigine Valley (extreme HD profile)
Clock speed fluctuates: at least +100MHz higher than boost clock (1590MHz)
Max 74C, ~80W
~48dBA
GPU temp - Unigine Valley (extreme HD profile with turbo mode)
Clock speed fluctuates: at least +200MHz higher than boost clock
Max 77-81C
~48-51dBA
FPU + Valley (extreme HD) with max fans
CPU (UV): Max 95C, 2.7-2.8GHz, 41-42W
GPU: Max 79C, clock speed at least above boost clock, ~80W
CSGO 1080p all max
CPU (UV): Max 95C, 3.6+GHz, ~40W
GPU: Max 79C, clock speed fluctuates: at least +100MHz higher than boost clock, ~80W
Max fans
(will start thermal throttling after a while)
Apex Legends 1080p all max, 6GB budget, 90 FOV, training map
CPU (UV): 86-95C, max 4GHz with some rare dips, 30-40W
GPU: Max 77C, clock speed fluctuates: at least above boost clock, ~80W
Max fans
Time Spy (Turbo mode, 1 run):
Score: 5962, Graphics: 5925
Fire Strike (Turbo mode, 1 run):
Score: 13564, Graphics: 15412
The chassis does get warm while under load, but not burning hot.
There is noticeable uneven core temp, therefore CPU peak temp might be higher.
To get best performance+thermal result for GPU, you need to undervolt GPU and use turbo mode.
In Illegear Command Center, there are 3 modes to choose from: Turbo, Game or Office mode. Turbo mode increases TDP/power consumption of GPU to allow faster GPU clock speed. Office mode gives you access to control fan speed but has a 35W CPU power limit. There are 4 power profiles: High performance (same with Windows), Game, Equilibrium, Power saving. Basically, just keep it to game mode and equilibrium.
The included power adapter is an 180W unit from FSP. Take note that temps might be a little higher when running dual channel memory.
Part 4: Miscellaneous
The laptop is thin and light – 1.75kg (which is very light for a gaming laptop) and 18.5mm thickness. The footprint is also relatively small.
Conclusion:
UPDATE: After a retest, thermals are similar to what you will get in Onyx. If you're shopping for a thin and light gaming laptop and you don't need a RTX GPU, this is worth considering.
Pros:
Cons:
Main specs:
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i7-9750H
GTX 1660TI 6GB
16GB 2666MHz RAM (dual channel)
512GB NVMe M.2 SSD
144Hz IPS
Intel 9560
W10 Trial
Kryonaut repaste and display colour calibration included
Based on TongFang GK5CP6X chassis
GTX 1660TI 6GB
16GB 2666MHz RAM (dual channel)
512GB NVMe M.2 SSD
144Hz IPS
Intel 9560
W10 Trial
Kryonaut repaste and display colour calibration included
Based on TongFang GK5CP6X chassis
This is a quick review; thus, not everything will be covered in here. Also, this review will mainly focus on thermals instead of performance.
Product page: Illegear Prodigy
Part 1: Build quality, input devices
Build quality is good overall. The lid has metal brush on it, as a result applying pressure on the middle of the lid cover don’t result in much flex. Twisting the lid is possible but the flex isn’t too bad. The hinges feel well tuned – only a bit of wobbling. You can open the lid with single hand.
The body uses all plastic build (soft touch). Despite that, there is little to flex on the entire keyboard+palm rest. There is some flex at the camera area (the camera is a ‘nosecam’ BTW) when being pressed in.
The membrane keyboard has a bit of mushiness but remains clicky. Key travel is ~1.5mm, actuation force is 55-60g. You can set the effect, brightness and speed of the keyboard lighting via Illegear Command Center.
The Precision clickpad has plastic surface but wet fingers don’t result in rough surface. Movements are quite precise. However, the L/R clicks has loud noise and requires some force when pressed in which feels a little cheap. You can disable the clickpad by double tapping the left top corner of the clickpad. The clickpad is aligned slightly to the right of the keyboard space bar to make it more centered.
Part 2: Display, Audio, Battery
The display is a 144Hz IPS panel from LG (LGD05C0, which is very common panel). Movements in the display feel smooth. It gets bright enough and colours are vibrant. Contrast is OK.
The 2 down firing speakers has good enough audio only if you tune the audio via Sound Blaster software.
Example of a tuned audio profile: Bass 0, treble 6, surround 80, crystalizer 50, bass 20, smart vol 70 dialog+ 70. Volume is a bit soft/quiet.
I don’t have time to test the battery life, however don’t expect much from the 46.74Wh battery (there is optional 63Wh upgrade which sacrifices 2.5 inch bay).
Part 3: Cooling performance
The cooling design consists of 3 heatpipes with 2 shared on CPU+GPU (same with Onyx). The heatsink is stretched to both left and right.
Notes on all thermal testing:
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PL1 – 60W, PL2 – 75W
BIOS N.1.00, EC 1.05.10
GPU driver tested is 430.64
BD PROCHOT for CPU is 95C
Test is conducted in an A/C room (ambient 22C)
Game mode and equilibrium mode are used (turbo mode in some tests)
Laptop is plugged in. The fans take a while to speed up when load is applied
Max fan noise is ~51dBA
BIOS N.1.00, EC 1.05.10
GPU driver tested is 430.64
BD PROCHOT for CPU is 95C
Test is conducted in an A/C room (ambient 22C)
Game mode and equilibrium mode are used (turbo mode in some tests)
Laptop is plugged in. The fans take a while to speed up when load is applied
Max fan noise is ~51dBA
Undervolt profile: CPU core+cache -100mv. You can undervolt GPU if you want, but it takes time. Blue highlighted part is the undervolted result.
CPU temp - Cinebench R15 multi core (1 run)
Max 92C, 71-74W ~1120cb
Max 92C, 74-75W, ~1190cb
~54dBA
CPU temp - Aida64 FPU 60W
Max 88C, 2.9-3GHz
Max 88C, 3-3.1GHz
~48-52dBA
GPU temp - Unigine Valley (extreme HD profile)
Clock speed fluctuates: at least +100MHz higher than boost clock (1590MHz)
Max 74C, ~80W
~48dBA
GPU temp - Unigine Valley (extreme HD profile with turbo mode)
Clock speed fluctuates: at least +200MHz higher than boost clock
Max 77-81C
~48-51dBA
FPU + Valley (extreme HD) with max fans
CPU (UV): Max 95C, 2.7-2.8GHz, 41-42W
GPU: Max 79C, clock speed at least above boost clock, ~80W
CSGO 1080p all max
CPU (UV): Max 95C, 3.6+GHz, ~40W
GPU: Max 79C, clock speed fluctuates: at least +100MHz higher than boost clock, ~80W
Max fans
(will start thermal throttling after a while)
Apex Legends 1080p all max, 6GB budget, 90 FOV, training map
CPU (UV): 86-95C, max 4GHz with some rare dips, 30-40W
GPU: Max 77C, clock speed fluctuates: at least above boost clock, ~80W
Max fans
Time Spy (Turbo mode, 1 run):
Score: 5962, Graphics: 5925
Fire Strike (Turbo mode, 1 run):
Score: 13564, Graphics: 15412
The chassis does get warm while under load, but not burning hot.
There is noticeable uneven core temp, therefore CPU peak temp might be higher.
To get best performance+thermal result for GPU, you need to undervolt GPU and use turbo mode.
In Illegear Command Center, there are 3 modes to choose from: Turbo, Game or Office mode. Turbo mode increases TDP/power consumption of GPU to allow faster GPU clock speed. Office mode gives you access to control fan speed but has a 35W CPU power limit. There are 4 power profiles: High performance (same with Windows), Game, Equilibrium, Power saving. Basically, just keep it to game mode and equilibrium.
The included power adapter is an 180W unit from FSP. Take note that temps might be a little higher when running dual channel memory.
Part 4: Miscellaneous
The laptop is thin and light – 1.75kg (which is very light for a gaming laptop) and 18.5mm thickness. The footprint is also relatively small.
Conclusion:
UPDATE: After a retest, thermals are similar to what you will get in Onyx. If you're shopping for a thin and light gaming laptop and you don't need a RTX GPU, this is worth considering.
Pros:
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Well built, well cooled
Very portable for a gaming laptop
144Hz display
Plenty of ports
Priced competitively
Comes with optional battery upgrade (no 2.5 inch bay)
Very portable for a gaming laptop
144Hz display
Plenty of ports
Priced competitively
Comes with optional battery upgrade (no 2.5 inch bay)
Cons:
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Nosecam (might be not important for some users)
Audio needs tuning
Audio needs tuning
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