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 ILLEGEAR Custom Performance Laptops v.4, AMD RYZEN 4800H with FREE AC Valhalla

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Mike3
post May 30 2019, 11:16 AM

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Am considering a Raven or Raven se.
Any major difference between them?
Other than kb
Assuming I match most hardware specs to be almost similar
ZM Fong
post May 30 2019, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(Mike3 @ May 30 2019, 11:16 AM)
Am considering a Raven or Raven se.
Any major difference between them?
Other than kb
Assuming I match most hardware specs to be almost similar
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Smaller chassis - thermals sure different. Need to test it out though

Also no high sRGB option for Raven SE (for now)
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post Jun 3 2019, 10:54 PM

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post Jun 3 2019, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ May 27 2019, 10:48 PM)
Illegear Rogue review

Main specs:
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This is a quick review; thus, not everything will be covered in here. Also, this review will mainly focus on thermals instead of performance.

Product page: Illegear Rogue

Part 1: Build quality, input devices
Build quality is good overall. The plastic lid has some flex on the middle of the lid cover when force is applied. Twisting the lid is possible but the flex isn’t too bad. The lid is noticeably wobbling – probably due to QC. You can barely open the lid with single hand.

The body uses all plastic build (soft touch). Despite that, there is little to flex on the entire keyboard+palm rest. Most flex is at the part between keyboard and clickpad, but the amount of flex is very little. There is some flex at the bottom bezel when being pressed in.

The membrane keyboard has a bit of mushiness. Key travel is ~1.7mm, actuation force is 55-60g. You can set the effect, brightness and speed of the keyboard lighting via Illegear Command Center.

The Precision clickpad has plastic surface and it’s slightly elevated to the back. Wet fingers will result in rough surface. Movements are quite precise. The L/R clicks requires moderate pressure to be pressed and the click noise is OK. Not bad overall. You can disable the clickpad by double tapping the left top corner of the clickpad.

Part 2: Display, Audio, Battery
The display is the same 144Hz IPS panel found in Selenite - BOE07B6. As you can expect from a high refresh rate panel, everything feels smooth, although there is a bit of ghosting due to advertised 30ms response times (still better than 60Hz). It gets bright enough, colours are vibrant and has good contrast.

The 2 down firing speakers has good enough audio only if you tune the audio via Sound Blaster software.

Example of a tuned audio profile: Bass 0, treble 6, surround 80, crystalizer 90, bass 20, smart vol 80 dialog+ 60. Volume is a bit soft/quiet.

I don’t have time to test the battery life, however don’t expect much from the 46.74Wh battery (there is optional 63Wh upgrade which sacrifices 2.5 inch bay).

Part 3: Cooling performance
The cooling design consists of 3 heatpipes with 1 shared on CPU+GPU (same with Selenite). The heatsink is stretched to both left and right.

Notes on all thermal testing:
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Undervolt profile: CPU core+cache -100mv. You can undervolt GPU if you want, but it takes time. Blue highlighted part is the undervolted result.

CPU temp - Cinebench R15 multi core (1 run)
Max 88C, 74-75W, 3.8-3.9GHz, 1230+cb
Max 87C, 74-75W, 1280+cb
~38dBA

CPU temp - Aida64 FPU 60W
Max 82C, 3.05GHz
Max 82C, 3.2GHz
~35dBA

GPU temp - Unigine Valley (extreme HD profile)
Clock speed fluctuates: at least +100MHz higher than boost clock (1590MHz)
Max 67C, ~80W
~34dBA

GPU temp - Unigine Valley (extreme HD profile with turbo mode)
Clock speed fluctuates: at least +200MHz higher than boost clock
Max 75C
~36dBA

FPU + Valley (extreme HD+turbo) with max fans
CPU (UV): Max 88C, 3.1-3.2GHz, 50W (PL1 will drop to 50W)
GPU: Max 75C, same clock speed behaviour

Time Spy (Turbo mode, 1 run):
Score: 6057, Graphics: 5941

Fire Strike (Turbo mode, 1 run):
Score: 13664, Graphics: 15305

The chassis stays quite cool while under load.
There is noticeable uneven core temp, therefore CPU peak temp might be higher.
To get best performance+thermal result for GPU, you need to undervolt GPU and use turbo mode.

In Illegear Command Center, there are 3 modes to choose from: Turbo, Game or Office mode. Turbo mode increases TDP/power consumption of GPU to allow faster GPU clock speed. Office mode gives you access to control fan speed but has a 35W CPU power limit. There are 4 power profiles: High performance (same with Windows), Game, Equilibrium, Power saving. Basically, just keep it to game mode and equilibrium.

The included power adapter is an 180W unit from FSP. Take note that temps might be a little higher when running dual channel memory.

Part 4: Miscellaneous
The laptop is thin and light for a 17-inch gaming laptop – 2.35kg and 27mm thickness. The footprint is also relatively small.

Conclusion: Well-cooled 17 inch light weight gaming laptop with almost no flaws

Pros:
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Cons:
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A big THANKS for reviewing this! Am waiting for my Rogue to arrive by end of tomorrow smile.gif
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post Jun 3 2019, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(joshuayip @ Jun 3 2019, 10:54 PM)
A big THANKS for reviewing this! Am waiting for my Rogue to arrive  by end of tomorrow smile.gif
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Just ordered mine too, but I might get it later due to not being at home, care to share your opinion after getting your hand on it? 😄😄
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post Jun 4 2019, 07:11 AM

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Guys, any review on Raven SE?
ZM Fong
post Jun 4 2019, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(zuhaili87 @ Jun 4 2019, 07:11 AM)
Guys, any review on Raven SE?
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Will be reviewing today
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post Jun 4 2019, 10:24 PM

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Raven SE review is done, will post here tomorrow after checking. For those who are interested can get a sneak peek here

Also, tested Selenite 2080MQ. Will also update LYN post after checking. Sneak peak here
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Just got my Raven SE. Note : I changed out from Onyx Lite which I originally ordered early May. I will make a video of it soon, just a walk-around and not much of a review myself.

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post Jun 5 2019, 02:07 AM

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QUOTE(aomerodi @ Jun 5 2019, 01:48 AM)
Just got my Raven SE. Note : I changed out from Onyx Lite which I originally ordered early May. I will make a video of it soon, just a walk-around and not much of a review myself.

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Nice, what spec?
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post Jun 5 2019, 06:55 AM

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QUOTE(aomerodi @ Jun 5 2019, 01:48 AM)
Just got my Raven SE. Note : I changed out from Onyx Lite which I originally ordered early May. I will make a video of it soon, just a walk-around and not much of a review myself.

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what's ur personal impression on the laptop ya? especially on its battery life and thermal performance
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post Jun 5 2019, 09:08 AM

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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Jun 4 2019, 11:24 PM)
Raven SE review is done, will post here tomorrow after checking. For those who are interested can get a sneak peek here
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Nice review, glad I went for this unit. Now awaiting for my unit to arrive.

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post Jun 5 2019, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(pahton @ Jun 5 2019, 09:08 AM)
Nice review, glad I went for this unit.  Now awaiting for my unit to arrive.
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I also just got the unit 2 days ago.
My unit will be arriving slower as i opt for the samsung 512 gb ssd
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post Jun 5 2019, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(Mike3 @ Jun 5 2019, 11:40 AM)
I also just got the unit 2 days ago.
My unit will be arriving slower as i opt for the samsung 512 gb ssd
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Nice. Mine just stock ssd also need to wait till 17th
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post Jun 5 2019, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Jun 5 2019, 02:07 AM)
Nice, what spec?
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i7-9750,
GTX1650
16GB RAM (1X16)
512GB NVMe + 2TB SSHD
Specifically asked for Win 10 Pro installation.

+ other freebies including thermal grizzly, fang mouse, mousepad and backpack.
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QUOTE(mfahdr @ Jun 5 2019, 06:55 AM)
what's ur personal impression on the laptop ya? especially on its battery life and thermal performance
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Personal impression,since I have not personally owned a laptop before; and have checked many many reviews for other laptops and how people say laptops' fans can get loud; it became worrying for me at least but I should get used to it.

Thermals are good, it's in around 50c-60c if I remember correctly from my benchmarking software. from my own experience the deck feels warm but not hot as compared to some other laptops I've used.
Although had driver problems out of the box, and I've fixed that.

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post Jun 5 2019, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(aomerodi @ Jun 5 2019, 09:25 PM)
i7-9750,
GTX1650
16GB RAM (1X16)
512GB NVMe + 2TB SSHD
Specifically asked for Win 10 Pro installation.

+ other freebies including thermal grizzly, fang mouse, mousepad and backpack.
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Hmm why not get 8GB RAM and upgrade to 16GB for dual chhanel? Can add SSHD and activate Windows with cheap key also
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post Jun 6 2019, 11:26 AM

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Im still torn between onyx and selenite...😭😭. Guys...which is your preference??
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QUOTE(Man On Fire @ Jun 6 2019, 11:26 AM)
Im still torn between onyx and selenite...😭😭. Guys...which is your preference??
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Selenite of coz for better cooling system !!! But i will go for rogue!
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post Jun 6 2019, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(Man On Fire @ Jun 6 2019, 11:26 AM)
Im still torn between onyx and selenite...😭😭. Guys...which is your preference??
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Selenite

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