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BenYeeHua
post Dec 24 2021, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Dec 24 2021, 12:27 AM)
The cat is already out of the bag. Qualcomm throttle first but when both are throttling, Qualcomm still wins. Mediatek wins power consumption due to manufactured by TSMC.
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You means the latest engineering MTK phone?

If yes, then I guess it is only useful when you get on gaming phone with dual fan lol, so far result for 8 gen 1 is 39°C 120fps running 王者荣耀 with active fan. laugh.gif

QUOTE(sanosizo @ Dec 24 2021, 08:27 AM)
OnePlus Nord 2 (mtk dimensity 1200) has a performance mode where it will force the cpu to run at 100%. The benchmark score matches the snapdragon 865/870 with that mode.
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Ya, just it will be hot for touching, so... sweat.gif

The best gaming + performance is iPad so far, nothing on Android except with fans, then why not iPad with that price. doh.gif

QUOTE(kokweng1 @ Dec 24 2021, 08:43 PM)
If elderly use, then i think C25Y is good enough. (C25Y has better proc than Narzo 50i)
Normally lower-end chip dun support UFS , if gsmarena did not write usually is eMMC

Nowadays low-end are quite good, normal usage (no game) is fine.
Due to storage slower, just when opening app / install / update app will take slightly longer.
(maybe 1 to 2 sec slower , but i dun think will be issue unless they use flagship phone before then they will "feel" slow)

Lazada dun seem got sales got Christmas or 1.1 (or they will last minute surprise)
Realme got sales at shopee but seem like alot out of stock already
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Yes, low end except not too high quality for gaming, with 5000mAh battery it is gonna 8-10 hours SoT.

Just, want gaming 6GB is a must now, except you wanna see how's your game killed while reading your Whatsapp message. doh.gif
If you just get a backup phone just for gaming, then 4 GB is enough, and get yourself another budget phone with 3 days standby for phone only, like me. brows.gif

FYI, messenger, whatsapp, WeChat etc, all bite your storage and ram like nothing, if you put another budget phone for running those social function, you will surely get a good experience for just focus on playing game and taking photo, unless your bag unable to hold 2-3 phones.
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Ya, Realme is depend on here Asian now, so lot of discount will happen, India are checking all china company, because they all bite up the phone market, realme is the most sold phone now.
So they will continue until Redmi lost.

QUOTE(kokweng1 @ Dec 24 2021, 10:01 PM)
will got bonus (e.g. 100-10) ?  rclxm9.gif
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Depend on boss, Taobao having not good 12.12 sale, so they giving 300-20 now, for xmas sale.


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i think is good enough for video call (can search youtube review, see those selfie video for quality)
i think there will be no issue on browsing page/browsing web and view video at webpage*
*it wont be butter smooth, but should be min lag

compare to SD410 , T610 is at least 4 time better
Also most old phone storage already degrade, thus making it slower.

edit: if can, try go to physical store and test it out , nowadays low-end phone** are quite ok 1 just dun except can play heavy graphic game
** those with at least 2 performance core (e.g. A75 or above)

Selfie is always a important thing because it is targeting India market, if you open their forum....
Full of selfie photo.... doh.gif

Most phone can do smooth browsing with at least 66x performance, just target 66x performance as baseline, 4GB will running less tab, but good single thread performance bring released tab back much faster.
Until you used iPhone with their crazy single thread chipset and optimized of safari. brows.gif

And yes, I am holding T610 now, except that 10w charge speed by Alldocube tablet, all are smooth... like butter, because of AOSP ROM, it also means not much feature provided for high performance, so it might different if running on Realme OS la.
Also yes, smooth for YouTube web, not 4k, but 1080p is fine with hardware acceleration decoding la.

For last longer, storage is important, but until time tell you, we don't know how far it can run.
Like the Redmi Note 9s, optimized badly by India developer, after updating Android 11, it is much much much slower than T610 running Android 11 now, because of storage access performance by SAF dropped too heavy...

So yes, the storage performance still high, but it is dragging back by SAF.... sweat.gif
https://developer.android.com/about/version...privacy/storage
https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/...cument-provider
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post Dec 24 2021, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(Maxieos @ Dec 24 2021, 09:03 PM)
I saw that at shope too but i hold for a while since flood may have delays and etc.
As for elderly , camera is important as stated video call through whatsapp and laz apps and youtube.Also , processor is also important since browsing on heavy pages with heavy video.Sometimes they just watch youtube at buildin browser rather at apps since browsing at browser and click at the recommend search list of video is better.Sometimes , it direct to other website that embed with multiple video website and very lag.Using old SD 410.
Actually what is the fastest chipset processor ? I ask few times about Unisoc but no one know ?

Where can I find a processor benchmark + phone + price or something similar?  any good processor browsing better than Snapdragon 410 in term of speed ?
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QUOTE(kokweng1 @ Dec 24 2021, 10:01 PM)
will got bonus (e.g. 100-10) ?  rclxm9.gif
i think is good enough for video call (can search youtube review, see those selfie video for quality)
i think there will be no issue on browsing page/browsing web and view video at webpage*
*it wont be butter smooth, but should be min lag

compare to SD410 , T610 is at least 4 time better
Also most old phone storage already degrade, thus making it slower.

edit: if can, try go to physical store and test it out , nowadays low-end phone** are quite ok 1 just dun except can play heavy graphic game
** those with at least 2 performance core (e.g. A75 or above)
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only thing that i dun like about realme is their screen mostly 1600x720, not sure how much difference compared to FHD+ (2340x1080)
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post Dec 24 2021, 11:38 PM

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Lazada now display Xmas sales.
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post Dec 24 2021, 11:44 PM

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QUOTE(BenYeeHua @ Dec 24 2021, 10:48 PM)

For last longer, storage is important, but until time tell you, we don't know how far it can run.
Like the Redmi Note 9s, optimized badly by India developer, after updating Android 11, it is much much much slower than T610 running Android 11 now, because of storage access performance by SAF dropped too heavy...

So yes, the storage performance still high, but it is dragging back by SAF.... sweat.gif
https://developer.android.com/about/version...privacy/storage
https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/...cument-provider
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i still got samsung s5, with custom rom (lineage)
somehow still ok ....use to farm shopee coin via live hahaha

but Maxieos buy for elderly, i dun think they will play heavy game (maybe light game)
I think 4gb still sufficient (budget constraint here)

QUOTE(alexwsk @ Dec 24 2021, 11:05 PM)
only thing that i dun like about realme is their screen mostly 1600x720, not sure how much difference compared to FHD+ (2340x1080)
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depend on people, some will not feel it while some will feel it
For me, if 720 on 5" display still ok, but 5.5" above prefer 1080p
I use before phone with 1440p display, to be honest I cannot really tell the different between 2k (1440p) vs FHD (1080p).
But those are very subjective, just like audio related, some can hear the different while to some maybe no different.

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I wonder how those people collect and keep LazCoin ?
My coin always just hover around 3k (because will expire)


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post Dec 24 2021, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(kokweng1 @ Dec 24 2021, 11:44 PM)

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I wonder how those people collect and keep LazCoin ?
My coin always just hover around 3k (because will expire)
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My 3k will turn into 2k on January. I barely use them always expires on me.
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post Dec 25 2021, 12:03 AM

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LAZADA x CIMB RM50 off vouchers and more !


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post Dec 25 2021, 12:31 AM

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lazada retarded?


everytime i log into my own acc on PC they keep send me SMS and email notif wtf.. annoying..

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QUOTE(Optizorb @ Dec 25 2021, 12:31 AM)
lazada retarded?


everytime i log into my own acc on PC they keep send me SMS and email notif wtf.. annoying..
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vpn? ad blocker?
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post Dec 25 2021, 12:55 AM

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QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Dec 25 2021, 12:33 AM)
vpn? ad blocker?
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nope on vpn, yes on ad blocker but previously never happened before..

and this is not like just for first time log in they send notification..

this is like every single time i log in.. if i sign out and log in again, they will send the same sms and email alerting got login on new device..

LOL really doh.gif doh.gif
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post Dec 25 2021, 12:58 AM

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QUOTE(alexwsk @ Dec 24 2021, 11:05 PM)
only thing that i dun like about realme is their screen mostly 1600x720, not sure how much difference compared to FHD+ (2340x1080)
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Unless you tweak the screen size (UI) to smaller, it is acceptable, my sister and parents can't spot the difference.
But no for OLED 720p samsung phone, OLED is not RGB LED, but 0.5RED 0.5Green 2Blue something like that, it is, hurting my eyes than normal LCD.

YES, 720p bring advantage over Realme 1080p, specially GPU run much faster with 720p than processing 1080p, a lot of people saying it is fast compare with Redmi.

QUOTE(kokweng1 @ Dec 24 2021, 11:44 PM)
i still got samsung s5, with custom rom (lineage)
somehow still ok ....use to farm shopee coin via live hahaha
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Samsung bad one is during the era of note 2 note 3, most phone at that era got NAND bug, most NAND burn, like mine Huawei H3C also NAND corrupted because of write limited reached.

Funny enough Huawei Y MAX also got this bug lol. doh.gif

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but Maxieos buy for elderly, i dun think they will play heavy game (maybe light game)
I think 4gb still sufficient (budget constraint here)
depend on people, some will not feel it while some will feel it
For me, if 720 on 5" display still ok, but 5.5" above prefer 1080p
I use before phone with 1440p display, to be honest I cannot really tell the different between 2k (1440p) vs FHD (1080p).
But those are very subjective, just like audio related, some can hear the different while to some maybe no different.

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I wonder how those people collect and keep LazCoin ?
My coin always just hover around 3k (because will expire)
Yes, parents 4 GB ok, phone kill background app also make it running last longer. tongue.gif
720p fine for my parents, they don't feel it, but the yellowness of screen protector they can feel it.

The audio for me is low bass can feel it. laugh.gif

QUOTE(Optizorb @ Dec 25 2021, 12:55 AM)
nope on vpn, yes on ad blocker but previously never happened before..

and this is not like just for first time log in they send notification..

this is like every single time i log in.. if i sign out and log in again, they will send the same sms and email alerting got login on new device..

LOL really  doh.gif  doh.gif
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Because they don't got QRscan login the PC web version, if got this feature, sure no need notify of new devices, they also lack of login device management feature like Taobao. doh.gif

This post has been edited by BenYeeHua: Dec 25 2021, 12:59 AM
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post Dec 25 2021, 01:23 AM

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QUOTE(BenYeeHua @ Dec 25 2021, 12:58 AM)
Because they don't got QRscan login the PC web version, if got this feature, sure no need notify of new devices, they also lack of login device management feature like Taobao. doh.gif
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is just something recent.. dont know what changes they make.. before yesterday/today login never notify like this, at most once a while they ask for verify CODE sent to sms or email..

But now is literally every login they send sms and email to notify got login on new device.. but whats the point cause its not like its a security feature ask u to enter code.. just notify only.. so become spam.. cause lazada will auto log out when inactive so have to log back in..
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QUOTE(BenYeeHua @ Dec 24 2021, 10:48 PM)
You means the latest engineering MTK phone?

If yes, then I guess it is only useful when you get on gaming phone with dual fan lol, so far result for 8 gen 1 is 39°C 120fps running 王者荣耀 with active fan. laugh.gif
Ya, just it will be hot for touching, so... sweat.gif

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王者 not a good benchmark la... only genshin can push these phones to limit.

Nobody gonna buy red magic hence dual fan irrelevant. Maybe Asus ROG but it has not been selling well due to high pricing and low resale value. Most are going to buy Snapdragon soc especially if wanna flash custom firmware.
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sad... they convert my coins to voucher.
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post Dec 25 2021, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(pretty23 @ Dec 25 2021, 10:27 AM)
sad... they convert my coins to voucher.
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What do u mean? How?
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post Dec 25 2021, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(ziling60 @ Dec 25 2021, 03:19 PM)
What do u mean? How?
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Exchange to products but seller cancel order and give you a voucher as replacement, I guess. doh.gif

QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Dec 25 2021, 02:56 AM)
王者 not a good benchmark la... only genshin can push these phones to limit.

Nobody gonna buy red magic hence dual fan irrelevant. Maybe Asus ROG but it has not been selling well due to high pricing and low resale value. Most are going to buy Snapdragon soc especially if wanna flash custom firmware.
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As you asked, Lenovo Y90, genshin constant 60FPS, 38.4℃.

Anyways, except gaming outside, why not just iPad, got Dolby Vision, also can tahan for few years too. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(BenYeeHua @ Dec 25 2021, 03:26 PM)
Exchange to products but seller cancel order and give you a voucher as replacement, I guess. doh.gif
As you asked, Lenovo Y90, genshin constant 60FPS, 38.4℃.

Anyways, except gaming outside, why not just iPad, got Dolby Vision, also can tahan for few years too. tongue.gif
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Apple>all
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QUOTE(ziling60 @ Dec 25 2021, 03:19 PM)
What do u mean? How?
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QUOTE(BenYeeHua @ Dec 25 2021, 03:26 PM)
Exchange to products but seller cancel order and give you a voucher as replacement, I guess. doh.gif
As you asked, Lenovo Y90, genshin constant 60FPS, 38.4℃.

Anyways, except gaming outside, why not just iPad, got Dolby Vision, also can tahan for few years too. tongue.gif
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Correct. But is not seller give. Is lazada give platform voucher. Not good luck.
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QUOTE(FusionXY @ Dec 25 2021, 03:54 PM)
Apple>all
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Sadly Apple want to earn money, else if they put Macbook OS into that iPad running with Apple M1, well, taking ipad = taking macbook.
A lot of people expecting Apple did this, sadly they don't, for market, why do this to iPad when you can sell higher price with macbook. laugh.gif

QUOTE(pretty23 @ Dec 25 2021, 03:56 PM)
Correct. But is not seller give. Is lazada give platform voucher. Not good luck.
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doh.gif
Lot of strange seller keep showing up on Lazada, very affecting the experience.

Also Lazada moving back to Aliyun MY now, unsure how's it gonna hold, but as they don't using Aliyun for live stream etc anymore, it might be fine. thumbsup.gif
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Will lazada put out more CIMB payday voucher especially the rm50 one at 12am?
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QUOTE(runningdash @ Dec 25 2021, 09:05 PM)
Will lazada put out more CIMB payday voucher especially the rm50 one at 12am?
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I think maybe will refresh.

Like 12am 4pm 8pm.
Or random timing.

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