Hi guys,
I just received an offer from an overseas buyer who interested to buy my items (camera stuffs..). he said he is from UAE. yup, united arab emirates..

anyway, he promised that he will make the payment first thru either moneygram/western union or wire transfer into my banking account. after i have confirmed the payment, he will then instructed TNT express to pick up the item and send it to him. sounds easy rite?..

but my question is, how do i received the moneygram from him, and claim it from local banks?(iinm cimb does deal with moneygram..not sure the particulars tho). at the same time, i also did some googleing and found some websites saying that moneygram is actually the main choice for nigerian/african scammers.. but mostly for internet transaction which usually we are the buyers.. meant that we paid first but nvr get our stuffs.

The thing is, i nvr deal with overseas buyer before, let alone using moneygrams/wire transfer.. really need ur guys help especially for those who have any experience dealing with overseas buyer who used moneygram before. if not using moneygram, do u guys have any sugesstion of what are my other options to deal with him? i really2 like to let go the item ASAp since will be needing some cash urgently. he seems so nice.. but still, words can be deceiving.. pls guys.. helpp..

ask him to TT to you 1st
provide him routing/swift code of your bank
after he done the transaction, then you post the items
safe enuff on your side

Chow

hi bata.. err... what's a "TT"? sorry, noobie her.. nvr done international deal b4 la.. hehe

anyway, how shud i get the routing/swift code for the bank? is it all the same for everyone or different? thanks in advance for the help man. sorry i ask too much.

TELEGRAPHIC TRANSFER? SOUNDS LIKE A SCAM LA THE BUYER. BWARE!

ok.. thanks for the xplaination.
ya, it seems like a scam to me too.. but then, this buyer insist that he will pay me first (he asked me to choose between moneygram or wire transfer to my maybank account), and when i have confirmed i received the payment, he will send TNT courier to pick the item at my place to deliver to him. can he actually do that?

seems like its quite safe on my side considering that i'm the one who have to confirmed the payment 1st then deliver.. but then, is this process really can be done?

Yeah, courier company do offer pickup service.

Well, as long as u get paid first... why not?

But remember, no matter what he says during the last minute of the deal. INSIST ON PAYMENT FIRST. Whatever picture/proof of banked-in to you, just make sure u received the money and then only give him the item

This post has been edited by ed0gawa: Jun 21 2007, 03:54 PM

Just make sure the money is in your account then only send out the item. Do NOT believe if he send you copy of receipt or anything bla bla bla... Just make sure you get the $$ first..

yup, of course i will insist on payment 1st, afterall, even he himself insist on paying 1st.. hehe.. its just that i have never heard anyone dealing this way before, especially from buyers who lived thousands of miles away, and the buyer trust the seller (me)so seriuosly even tho we nvr met before.. the way i see it, its either he is very2 trustable to total strangers OR he's a real idiot to trust total strangers OR he's one of those nigerian scammers with some bad things in his mind..

and ya, can local bank (maybank) received wire transfer from overseas just like that?its that easy?

anyway, if its really ok, i guess i shud give it a try.. oh ya, say if i want him to transfer the payment to my maybank, what are oher particulars that i shud include (other than my account number) ? and what is swift code and how do i get it?

will update the deal in this thread. wish me luck u guys.

TT = telegraphic transfer
you can ask your bank for swift code/routing number

Chow.

thanks bata..
hope to get the deal done by this week.

fyi, this guy even ask me to help him find more camera stuffs and sell it to him.. he even offer to pay higher than local price for a used items (which i dont think he realized that..hehe..). well, i guess maybe he's somekind of a trader in his country.. buy cheap stuffs here, and sell at higher price to ppl from his country i guess..

but anyway, have to make sure this 1st deal succesful then maybe i can say more abt him.. in the meantime, hope u guys wish me luck with this trade.

Hi all,
I got this email details on western union. I suspect it is scam. The 'buyer' from UK and want to give a gift at her friend in africa. Hmm.. I told her to give the money and once it really on my hand, then I may proceed otherwise she can forget it.

I in suspicious when the sent email's adddress is "xxxx@mail.com"

Note: xxxx represent my details name, address, etc.

Thanks.
shamtt

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Money OrderSM Approved and confirmed.
1 message
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WESTERN AUCTION PAYMENTS <payee_approved@mail.com> Thu, Aug 2, 2007 at 7:31 PM
To: shamtt@xxxx.com
Western Union Auction Payments
Money OrderSM Approved and confirmed.





Dear xxxx,

The Western Union(R) Auction Payments hereby congratulates you and at the same time informing you that the (R) Money OrderSM sent to you by " Mrs Kate James"has just been Confirmed and Approved.

(R) Money OrderSM: $850USDPlease verify that the following address,as entered by the buyer,is correct.





Name: xxxx.

Address: xxxx.

City: xxxx.

State: xxxx.

Zip Code: xxxx.

Country: xxxx.

Mobile Number.: xxxx.






If there is mistake in the above informations,please contact the buyer to correct the error therein.

This Order is approved as a (R) Money OrderSM $850USDand will be dispatched to the above address via the Western Union(R) Auction Payments Private Mail after shipment tracking number has been received for shipment verification.The (R) Money OrderSM is estimated to be delivered to you in the above address in 2 to 3 business days after the shipment tracking number has been received.You CAN NOW ship the item to the buyer while the (R) Money OrderSM will be on th way to you as soon as shipment is verified.You are expected to make the shipment within 48 hours of recieving this Payment Approval Notification and get to our Customer/Technical Dept.With the tracking number for Payment Verification.Go to payee_approved@mail.com

***PLEASE NOTE***
The Money OrderSM will NOT be dispatched until shipment has been verified. This measure is taken in order to protect both seller's and buyer's inte rests and to reduce the occurrence of fraudulent activities.

*SHIPMENT VERIFICATION*
You can have the shipment confirmed/verified in any of the following ways:
1.Contact Western Union(R) Auction Payments stating the Western Union(R)Auction Payments Order Number and the Tracking Number of the shipment (payee_approved@mail.com).

***PLEASE NOTE***
Due to the fact that to Western Union(R) Auction Payments processes thousand s of orders daily,Western Union(R) Auction Payments RECOMMENDS contacting the Customer Support Representative that has been assigned to this particular Order directly.This ensures speedy verification of shipment as well as prompt dispatch of the Money OrderSM.Send tracking details to payee_approved@mail.com 2.You can give the buyer of your auction item the tracking number of the shipment and once he/she verifies the shipment,he/she will notify us immediately.Please do not allow your buyer or a third party to gain access to this Payment Approval Notication.
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Once shipment has been verified, You will receive an" ORDER CONFIRMATION" email from The Western Union (R) Auction Payments informing you that the Money OrderSM ha s been dispatched to your address.You will also receive a "10 DIGIT PIN Western Union (R)Auction Payments " via this email.
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*CUSTOMER SUPPORT*
If you have any questions, Please feel free to contact the Customer Support Representative that has been assigned to this particular Order at (payee_approved@mail.com)
Thank you for using Western Union (R) Auction Payments.............. We look forward to serving your online auction payment needs better in the future.
Sincerely,








DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS PLEASE CONTACT US VIA [payee_approved@mail.com]



(C) 2001-2007 Western Union Holdings, Inc., All Rights Reserved


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Added on August 3, 2007, 10:21 amHi again,
Below is an example on how she tried to insist me.
Is there anybody have experience like this? Or from the same 'scam' person?
Note: xxxx - repesent my details name, etc.
Thanks.
shamtt

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From: kate james <katejames_8@yahoo.com>
Date: Aug 2, 2007 7:54 PM
Subject: PAYMENT MADE/SHIPPING ADDRESS
To: shamtt@xxxx.com


Hello xxxx,i already made the payment just now via westernunion auction payments,i made a payment of $850 USD for the PACKAGEand its shipment via DHL ok and i was told in the bank that a confirmation letter of payment will be sent to your Email box for verification of payment, so get back to me as soon as you recieve a mail from westernunion . i want you to ship out the package as soon as possible(friday), so that it gets to my Friend on time, you know i want to present it as a gift,

This is the shipping address.

Name:David James.
Adress:16 morin street new oko oba ifako ijaiye,
city:Abule egba
State:Lagos
Zip code:23401
Country:Nigeria

Please make sure you send it via DHL and get back to me with the shipment tracking number TOMORROW

Regards.

Mrs Kate James.
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This post has been edited by shamtt: Aug 3 2007, 10:21 AM

hmm , did u receive any money ? as in real cash after bank-in ?

Obviously this is a scam. Don't bother to waste time reading it. Whenever you come across Nigerian + Western Union, 99% you may sleep over it.

p/s: Also you guys might receive some emails like "Hi there, I'm Mr Crap's daughter, the tycoon of bla bla in Israel, and my dad is dead and he left millions for me, I need your help to transfer the money and I'll share it with you. Please assist me. I need you banking details bla bla.



This post has been edited by vikingw2k: Aug 3 2007, 11:08 AM

I belive there was a case in LYN once where one of us turned the tables and convinced them to deposit some money into HIS account instead

Nope. It said I hv to get tracking number from DHL first then they will pay...

and if you posted and gave them the tracking number, most probably they will laugh off at your stupidity.
the best method was pay then deliver except if you know them personally. Which trading sites that have such policy as deliver first, pay later? Common sense, no until payment made.

just give a crappy DHL tracking number !

just send a DHL document with a piece of paper inside writing in HUGE letters

" YOUVE BEEN PWNED!!!"

hehe.. conning da scammer? actually, i also get da same email (but diff sender).. & i juz ignored it since he/she asked for my ic.. address to bank-in money.. wth? bank-in to my tabung or wat?