After typing all of this I realised this post became a wall of text. Apologies for that

Hello!

Some of you might have seen me asking this in the 408 thread. Thank you for the replies there for those that have chipped in. I decided to post here instead since it's specifically tire talk (and it'll reach a wider user base). After doing my own research and recommendations from the good folks from the 408 thread, I've narrowed down the choices to these three tyres.

This is for the wife's car. I'm merely doing her homework.

Currently running on the same size, MC5.

Of the three, the Excellence seems to be the cheapest option. This and the MC6 can be sourced via Lazada/Shopee; MC6 @ RM 363 (Could've sworn it was only RM330 yesterday), GY Exc. @ RM 293. The Falken I can't seem to find online...only one I see is a shop in Setapak advertising on Mudah for RM 350. On to the breakdown:

MC 6
Wife is inclined towards these. Mostly due to the current tyre being a conti as well.

Pros:
- Wife likes it (Brand familiarity)
- Good review from one or two sites. Only comparison is against the MC5. Can't for the life of me find a comparison with the other brands on my list.

Cons:
- Actual user reported issues with balancing after 5k km. (although admittedly, sample size of one )
- Can't find much info about people using this tyre locally. At least not online.

Treadwear/Traction/Temp rating: 340/AA/A

FK510

Pros:
- Good feedback around here. Seems to be the other tyre recommended if it's not the Hankook V12 Evo 2.
- High rating at this website

Cons:
- No online presence from seller. Need to source an actual shop for this.
- Wife doesn't seem too keen

Treadwear/Traction/Temp rating: 300/AA/A

Excellence

Pros:
- Good feedback from a trusted member.
- Brand familiarity

Cons:
- Mixed reviews online
- Only one confirmed user (so far) reporting in (different tyre size though)

Treadwear/Traction/Temp rating: 240/A/A
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Although my wife says she's ok with the current drive comfort etc, I'm looking to retain the handling of the MC5 but with better comfort. All three seems to be good contenders but I'm looking for more actual users to chip in.

Thanks in advance chaps!

PS: I read that one should not compare the ratings from different manufacturer so I don't know what to do with that info

PPS: Additional notes. Mostly city driving, with a possibility of outstation driving during the weekends. Not really a speed demon. I generally cruise around 110 - 130. If I hit a particularly long stretch of straights, then I have the tendency to go 160. Fastest I'll probably ever do is 180 but I'm not too keen on doing that.

If you like MC5 and think highly of it.. then MC6 is a huge improvement.
Both MC6 and Falkens are UHPs while GY excellence isnt.

You wont find much reviews on MC6 internationally cause its made for asian markets hence not avail outside. but plenty of reviews by local press at launch time.

Ive used Fk510 and im using MC6 at present.. price wise its far too competitive over PS4. Performance wise, no complaints.

Tyre Size?

Currently using MC6 225/45 R17 (not on 4WD drive) which is quite comfy.

Wanted to try out MC6 225/55 R17 on Subaru XV but heard other owners having problem getting all tires align properly on 4WD.

GY Excellence is a bargain, consider falls under 3 golden consumers rule (reasonable price, pretty good quality and worthy OR cantonese PENG LENG CHENG)

Good year excellence is totally different category from MC6 and Fk510. MC6/Fk510 are UHP tyres, pretty much the top end of consumer grade product.

To make things easy, if wife prefers MC6, just go with it. She feels assured, she feels happy (her preference mah) and you no need headache. It also meets your criteria of handling and comfort.

Fk510, malaysian market seems to despise falken brand. Many prefer unknown china brand than falken. Product availability not that wide spread, although pricing is quite competitive.

Another choice would be the hankook v12evo2, good balance between performance and comfort. Usually could cost lower, but can only find one seller in mudah selling this at RM350/pc :
https://www.mudah.my/225+45R17+Hankook+Vent...re-74044470.htm
* likely possible to find someone selling lesser than this

I wouldn’t say I think highly of it. It can handle the corners I take well enough when travelling to Pahang. The windy road after Karak.

That’s what I gathered about the MC6...it’s geared towards our market. Problem with the local press launch coverage is they only compare it to the MC5. I was hoping to read comparisons to other brands in the list. If based just on the mc5 vs mc6, I’d say I’m sold.

How would you compare the FK510 to the MC6 since you’ve used both?

225/45 r17. So same as yours. I don’t think I have to worry about 4wd since the 408 isn’t one.

Do you happen to have used the Excellence? Or know anyone that has? I’m trying to reach out to a wider sample size.

Lol. Yeah. Less headache would be to just go for the MC6. However I’m the one doing her homework, so gotta do my due diligence. Heh.

I’ve taken a look at the hankook but wifey doesn’t seem too enthused about it. Also, read some horror stories on hankook. So better to steer clear. Safe than sorry and all that jazz.

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Thanks for all the feedback guys. To those that have used the MC6 (or currently using), do you have any issues with balancing after a certain amount of usage?

EDIT: Words. Replying on mobile can be such a pain

This post has been edited by marquis: Apr 4 2019, 05:56 PM

If I were you, no brainer I choose the FK510! Because it's pretty much proven already in many tests against other top tires, very often comes out in the top 5 if not even top 3.

MC6 is claimed by Continental Malaysia to be UHP to rival PS4 but never proven, so talk is cheap! I'd pick CPC6 over this but stupid Continental Malaysia doesn't bring it in.

As for Goodyear Excellence, I won't consider coz it's lower class. Should be F1 series to be able to match up properly. I'd take Hankook V12 Evo 2 over this Excellence or even MC6! The V12E2 is an excellent value for money.

Hi Ts, Rm350 for falken fk510 - 225/45r17 (japan) is good deal. Buy it before stock finish =)

I was waiting for you to come in

A lot of my FK510 info comes from the links you previously provided. If it were up to me, it'd be the Falken. I however need to provide more compelling arguments to the wife.

So which are you using? The FK510 or the V12E2? I read around the hankook's wet performance isn't as good as the FK510.

Ah. So that's a good price. Noted. Thank you!

Using GY Excellence 225/50 R17 Honda Accord, very comfy as I previously explain. So when cornering felt a bit soft IF were to compare with MC6.

But on highway + rainy days + go thru a small plot of water will encounter slight aquaplane.



Do share where u get the deal for FK510

This post has been edited by loutze: Apr 5 2019, 09:30 AM

Haven't got the chance to try fk510. I got V12E2 on my son's Swift Sport and last time on my wife's Livina, very happy with them so far. I think fk510 should be better coz it's also newer tires but it's also slightly more expensive so on balance both should be excellent value for money.

Note though that fk510 sidewall is stiffer while v12e2 is softer, so probably V12E2 is more comfortable.

This post has been edited by 6UE5T: Apr 5 2019, 09:52 AM

Ah. That’s not good. Will refrain from the GY then. In the event wifey drives I don’t want her to panic. Thanks for the heads up!

The deal? I just did a search on google. Some shop in Setapak apparently.

Noted! She’s ok with the MC5 now so even a slight improvement would be a bonus tbf.

Deh........despite the MC6 may not be the best of the bunch, it is still a reputable brand compared to unknown china/indonesia brand (that are flooding the market now). It will still perform decent enough if she's already happy with the MC5.

Since her heart is with continental, no need too much arguments. Happy wife, happy life....

No truer words have been spoken, friend.

Now trying to find FK510 from reputable shop...Or at least shop that are recommended. Just as a comparison to her; At least I can say I've done my part. Reading more reviews seems like the hankook v12E2 and S1E2 is quite...interesting. Heh.

Decisions, decisions eh?

My wife has no say about tires or pretty much anything on cars, she just follows what I say.

S1E2 should be as good if not better than V12E2 but difficult to find here in MY. Btw Hankook has released the S1E3, hopefully will come to MY.

Price to performance MC6 is pretty good. Not much of a diff compared to FK. Unless u side sweep corners and pedal to metal all the way everytime, the differences is probably minute. I do find mc6 softer though.

The other affordable uhp is Gt radial or giti hpy. They have in run flats as well.. Cheap and pretty decent for me. Also on occasional runs up UY.

Well, it's her cars. I can give strong recommendations but ultimately it's her choice. Heh.

Saw the reviews about the S1E3. Quite impressed. Seems like hankook joined the big league players?

Nah. I'm not that kinda driver. Pretty sedate driving most of the time.

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Seems like a conclusion has been reached. Despite all the homework I've done, she went completely off tangent and decided on the PS4

I guess that's a wrap gents. I thank everyone for their time and effort. I have come out a little bit more informed now about tyres and what not.

Gonna be going to the workshop her cousin frequents tomorrow. Apparently it's a good price

Thanks again!

Hahaha after all she's made the smartest choice, so kudos to her! So next time no need to think much, just buy the best.

I guess that's why she's my better half!

Good to know she won't shy away from the price if it's known to be a safer alternative

Btw, for the interest of sharing, the PS4 was Rm500/piece. Additional 10 for steel valves (5 for rubber). Everything else was inclusive.

That's decent price.

Fuh~~~man of the house!

wah....yeng sai....win liao.....she choose pretty much the top consumer tyre in the market...

Hahaha but there's 1 thing that I cannot get her to follow, which is to drive manual car. 😂

Seems like what my friend said about ps4 is true,

He said, it got price hike. Dunno true or not.

But rm500 per piece for 225/45r17 is on high side.

I see online also, cannot get price like last year. Price hike is it

Heh. She listens to reason every now and then. Her first car so...wanna do it right I suppose?

I'd be lucky if I can get her to drive. Hahaha.

Mind you, this 500 is the lowest we could find. Everywhere else is above 550. One shop in KD doing 530. Would've went there but no cousin's endorsement. Heh.

What was the price like last year?

i've done similar research on tires you listed,i chosen something else at that moment which is turanza t005a touring tire i can feedback you very detail impression about that if you curious but long story short,i would've choose fk510 in a heartbeat if given the choice again

Hahaha as per what I had originally suggested in your post back then.

Please share some details for our learning/understanding on why your change of mind.

This post has been edited by wkc5657: Apr 9 2019, 11:11 AM

As above, care to share for knowledge sharing?

Yup yup. Initially I didn't expect she'd end up at that decision. All working out fine I suppose.

The PS4 is really something else when it comes to wet handling. Not too big an improvement on the comfort but hey, can't have 'em all eh?

i wrote some feedback in the t005a thread...why i changed my mind..well first of all i bought it because
1.i test drove the new camry which had this tire in 18 incher,it feel really good on camry
2. bridgestone advertise this as having a reinforced sidewall which caught my attention because i equate sidewall strength and steering feel,so wow,good steering feel in touring tire category what a nice combo!!
3. its a 2018 product from first tier tire manufacturer,cannot be bad kua
4. its cheappppp,i kinda broke right now

but,after using it on my car,i find its a another boring tire,the steering feel is worse than primacy,my theory about the side wall didn't work out...it turn my uncle car into granny car...its quiet its comfortable....zzzz ok la at least my wife and kids like it in the back

Maybe further pump up the air pressure?

done that,it does reduce tire motion but not feedback

Hehehe, what to expect la, mid range comfort tires are like that lor. You want sporty handling tires surely should have bought UHP tires.

Since we are on the topic of UHP and comfort tires, what would generally be considered the most comfortable (NVH, road feedback, general bumpiness) amongst UHP tyres?

For me so far the most comfortable are V12E2 and F1A2.

MC6 is not Continental tyres. It’s not sold in continental countries. It’s just sime tayar with the Continental brand stamped on it.

FK510 is good. Made in Japan and it’s Falken’s flagship.

Tyres I’ve used in the past include PP2, PS3, RE003, P7, GY Revspec RS02, GY Eagle F1 D5. Haven’t tested it’s wet performance yet, but dry is good, just a little less responsive in steering input at low speeds.

MC6 was design & made in Malaysia by Continental Tire Malaysia for Asia Pacific market ONLY.. Derrr...

Maybe study what the Continental factory in Malaysia was called before it was continental. Duhhh

Ya agree, continental official retailer here is continental sime tyre pj Sdn Bhd.

But, Sime tyre is sime tyre, continental tyre is continental tyre. As a licensee, u cannot simply put ur product line into licensor product. U said, conti mc6 is sime tyre brand but stamp continental. That is very incorrect bro.

Mc6 not only sell in malaysia but asean country too. I take example nearest which is singapore and thailand. They also sell mc6 and their official retailer is not sime tyre. So, still MC6 is sime tyre but stamp conti logo on it according to u?

If like that & according to your logic.. Merc assemble in DRB Hicom factory can call DRB Hicom car stamp with Merc logo.. laa..

This post has been edited by Oldskolboyz: Apr 22 2019, 08:53 AM

Licensee? Licensor? What talking you. Sime Tyre is majority owned by Continental. There’s no Sime branded tyres being manufactured anymore. What do you think happened to all the Sime engineers and workers?

DRB Hicom major shareholder is Mercedes? 51%? If not what talking you.

If people call you dxxx sure you angry..

This post has been edited by Oldskolboyz: Apr 22 2019, 01:18 PM


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I made a mistake. I admit it. Its not a licensing, but its a partnership.

Continental AG which is parents company from german buy 51% share from sime tyre. Then name it Continental Tyres PJ Malaysia Sdn Bhd. It consist of brand Continental for premium product, Dunlop for middle product and sime tyre for budget product.

Sime tyre is history, but its been replace by viking tyres to cater budget customer. So to answer ur question where this all worker goes, I believe they spread between all this company, conti, dunlop, and newly budget tyre, viking.

And I repeat my initial theory, I dont think they stamp low end tyres like viking(since sime no more) and put it become mc6. They cater different target market since one is cater for higher end while cater for lower end customer. And based on positive review from tyrereview uk, mc6 performance is positive which I dont think impossible its from budget resources.

Nolah won't be angry, I'm a huge dxxx anyway
You might be old school, I'm the OG around here

Mercedes and DRB-Hicom
Mercedes AG doesn't own shares in DRB-Hicom, even if they do it is not substantial, obviously DRB-Hicom cannot put their brand name on Mercedes products.
Continental and Sime Tyre
Continental is the majority shareholder (51% IIRC) of Sime Tyre, they can put their brand on Sime Tyre, they can rebrand Sime tyre, they can do whatever they want with Sime Tyre.


tyereview UK reviews, other than those done by magazines, are just posted by jokers such as myself and yourself. Anyway my personal opinion is that the MC6 is inferior to FK510 because its Falken's UHP flagship. If Falken's flagship cannot best a Sime Tyre Continental Malaysia engineered and made product, then Falken should just close shop. And that also means Continental's flagship must be godlike too.

This post has been edited by Jason: Apr 22 2019, 05:02 PM

That is true liao. FK510 is superior. But customer in msia is fuckup. So few high end tyre enter market. So they, tyre manufacturer charge premium for middle end product and getting away with it.

Customer no choice, force to follow it.

Changed a set of fk510, previously was using Yokohama V105, here is my take..

Pros:
- Price
- Comfort
- Dry grip(maybe it is new?)

Cons:
- Slower steering response

Overall, given the price, value is superb.

This post has been edited by sengasdf: Apr 24 2019, 11:33 AM

How long already do you use the fk510?

1 month now, been to b road 3 times and Sepang once, I am happy with this tyre.

Good to know. It's one of the tires I'm considering for my next change also.

Apart from slower steering response, i can't find much compromise on this tyre. Check tyrereviews youtube videos, highly rated by them.

In case anyone looking for good deal, look for Lucas at Ching tyre auto service centre at Setapak.

What size did you get and how much?

235/35/19 - 6xx
265/35/19 - 9xx

Can't remember the exact price.

Wah very big sizes. Your front though is much thinner/lower sidewall by 1cm than the rear, so much smaller overall diameter (by 2cm).

Yea, that is the original specification from Porsche. I have no idea why

Yeah better still follow original.

Probably to build in understeer into the handling of the car. Otherwise car too happy to swap ends.

My family's Elise s1 have 195/50r15 for front, 225/45r16 for rear. Original size from lotus as well 😂

You only need teeny tires to steer.
But fat tires to put down the power.

Interesting

This post has been edited by ComputerIdiot: Dec 27 2019, 09:55 AM