This is basically for finding out what water cooling i will choose for my system.

i think tt is nice

i think TT WC for a beginner is good...

if want more hardcore cooling...can go for Swiftech....

why not dangerdan... its 20% more efficient than swiftech i heard.

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Added on June 21, 2007, 1:38 amlooks nice or nice performance.... som stuff look good but their performance can be below par. WHat is nice about tt anyways.

This post has been edited by a1098113: Jun 21 2007, 01:38 AM

some high end hsf still performance better than tt water cooler...

if for begineer, i think tt still better choice as u wont waste lots of money when u give up water cooler

Prove it.
Anyone who votes TT watercooling kit is a total loser.

Rather spending on TT, it'll be better if you just save your money and buy high end aircooling heatsink.

I would definitely agree on sHawTY coz I was one of the stupid low performance TT Bigwater user ...

Fully crap, look at the design of the water block, it can't even cool off those hot gc or proc .... as better as a Thermalright cooler ...

I totally regretted to spent over RM600 for the whole set that only perform good enough for lower end PC >....

for Series cooling there are many other brand in the market works much more better than the fully crappy TT wc products,,,

totally agreed with bro Doom and sHawTY, hv experience using watercooling system, yap it cool but not easy to asamble compare normal heatsink fan based, if u think u will stick to current rig (which attech with watercooling system) for a year is ok lo, but if like some of forumer who always updating ur rig not strongly not recommend watercooling

and again from wasting ur money buy watercooling stuff just for proc only, better use that money go for highend heatsink fan both for vga and proc

This post has been edited by arjuna_mfna: Jun 21 2007, 09:18 AM

If possible, I'll vote for D-TEK. But for a good price per performance, its better to go for swiftech set.

what is the necessary basic requirement or standard temp drop that you guys expect when you overclock, and does water cooling give a significant amount of temp drop than active/passive/air cooling?

i vote for Swiftech... even though i never use the water cooling b4... cos i dont trust the water cooling...

but my friends who experience in water cooling, always recommend me to go for Swiftech water cooling accessories... quite expensive... haha...

Anyone among the forumers in this polls using danger dan items... please post something:) Swifttech is the most prefered now.

haha....i'm suprised when i see TT is in the list with Swiftech and DD....
well,TT is just in the standard of what Gate from CM,for beginner ok la,

For Swiftech and DD,both are for Hardcore and Ultimate overclocker.

For me,i better stick with Air Cooling,no danger at all,no need to afraid of leaking.

a1098113, you haven't answered my question.
Look at post number 6.

be patient shawty... i am coming up with a comprehensive report:P.... be patient... only 20 percent le, dont be too critical

20% is not something to be taken lightly of.
That's why i want some proof for your words there.

Don't just simply say about without any sorts of proof.
I don't mean to offend you, but i need proof on what you've just said.

No offense bro, thats what forums are for:)

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Added on June 22, 2007, 7:41 pmThis is what you want, the links to your answer

Danger Den Maze 4 vs D-Tek Whitewater

Danger Den Copper TDX review

DangerDen TDX Silver

Danger Den TDX waterblock

Toms hardware OC with DangerDen blocks

Another TDX review

OC of 8800gtx SLIed on DD Block

A 5 Block review

GPU WB review of 3 different blocks

check it out

This post has been edited by a1098113: Jun 22 2007, 07:45 PM

afaik, swiftech is good in some and DD is good in some, but not all is good by just 1 company only.

come la guys, activate and participate in this polls. I am sure there are a lot of water cooling ppl with heaps to say:)

it's because most ppl don't use WC (including me) so, we don't know what to vote

Maybe i should state the best hsf cooling instead... i just wanted to know what the response would be like thats all, for water cooling;

if you make it, make sure to put an option "stock HSF"
poor ppl like me is still using P4 and stock HSF

can can...i actually forgot to put wira radiator and water pump : lol... thats probably the cheapest:P

RM500 on budget WC Swiftech or don't use WC at all

why not a danger dan.... if u saw one of my earlier post of all the listed sites of what danger dan can do... why not

Swiftech got my vote. Why?
Swiftech have more range of proven product compare to DD. E.g. GTX, GT and its latest GPU Block; Stealth .

No deny DD is famous during the last generation but seriously not on 775. The only stuff from DD that really looks ok to me now is its GC block. But if I really going to get a GC Block, I will go for EK.

Anyway, you should avoid ThermalTake WC at all cost. Those BigWater is famous for its high failure rate. If you want to go for budget WC, I do think that Gigabyte Galaxy 2 set is a better option.

Frankly I don't know much about WC. All I know is Swiftech is good and Tt BigWater is not. What's the price for Danger Dan?

which water cooling brand is good and easy for beginers? and also a decend price tag?

Trust me, that listed sites doesn't show anything.
What you should believe is the result from end user.
End user by the means of us, the consumer.

Reviewers isn't taken as consumer.
I take them as tester, the middle part.

We, as a buyer, who tested them by ourself, proves what's good & what's not.

DD is only good in the old ages, the ages of 939, ages of 478.
But not 775.

Explain what do you mean by "decent price tag" by your understanding.

Those who's been long enough in watercooling keep RM1K as a decent price tag.
Now tell me what price are you expecting by the means of that "Decent Price Tag".

This post has been edited by sHawTY: Jun 28 2007, 12:21 AM

for a beginer price?

RM600.

wat brand for that? and is it easy to install? lol

Nope.
No "TRUE" watercooling kit is easy to install.

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Added on June 28, 2007, 12:45 amNope.
No "TRUE" watercooling kit is easy to install.

This post has been edited by sHawTY: Jun 28 2007, 12:45 AM

The most popular & powerful hardcore water cooling kit, better go for Swiftech WC kits some more good for hardcore OC with this WC kits

RM600? What about MetalZone's setup around RM400~500? Isn't that already consist of everything, the best yet the cheapest?

the best and cheapest is still

wira/kancil or motorbike radiator =rm 150 and below
fishtank water pump, get those to pump outdoor = rm 50~100
water block = rm180~250
tubing and connectors = rm 30 MAX
= rm 500 or so.

performance wise...u mar guess la, it is used to cool those cars..and the pump sure beats ANY retail pc specific water pump. pressure drop? where got preassure drop wan this pumps, the pump is a killer in pressure afaik, it is almost triple of those Laing D5 pumps >8D

This post has been edited by bryanyeo87: Jun 28 2007, 01:32 AM

if realy2 ful set of swiftech..if not wrong...maybe near 1k.

It's around RM549.
But it won't be lower than RM500.

heed the experts advice....if you choose a thermaltake/gigabyte WC...they are easy to install, heck even have step by step instructions, but after using them for a while, you will realize that a good air cooled hsf would beat it.

but putting together a diy WC kit takes a slight more time and some research needs to be done prior, but thats the interesting part right. Once you have all the parts and its up and running, you will definately feel more satisfied.

This post has been edited by BurgerRI: Jun 28 2007, 05:17 PM

i choosed Thermaltake , cuz easy to find around my town ...

diy wc lol... when is someone gonna come up with a design or patent for the setup? especially the one with the car radiator?

I started with the TT Bigwater SE because at that time I could not get the Swiftech kits here. It was definitely better than stock HSF and also some of the aircoolers at that time since heat pipe coolers were not available then. Right now, most good aircoolers like the Ultra-120 Extreme would probably beat the performance of TT watercoolers. Of course TT has also upgraded their WC kits to use bigger tubing.

My Bigwater SE pump gave up after 9 months - looks good though and easy to setup but you only know the value of reliability when the pump fails and you can't use the PC Got the pump RMAed but never used it after that. Currently using it on my second rig but with Distilled water and Swiftech Hydrx additive instead of the crap but expensive coolant that TT provides. With the TT original coolant - algae will form in your loop that probably causes the pump to fail prematurely.

I'm using Swiftech Storm V2, MCP655 pump and Thermochill PA120.2 now and performance, reliability and satisfaction are second to none. Used that with a P4 640 oced to 3.9 GHz for 24x7. Can OC to 4.1GHz for benchies. Swiftech Storm is the best for single core CPUs - proven many times over provided it is paired with a good and powerful pump.

Now on multi core CPUs, the best blocks are the D-TEK Fuzion and Swiftech Apogee GT. I have purchased the D-TEK Fuzion but have not installed it yet. On my E6600, I'm running at 3.33GHz 24x7 with idle temp of 36C and load temps of 51C with board temps of 37C and ambient temp of 30-31C (read no aircon). This is with the Storm Waterblock. I bet the D-Tek Fuzion will give me better temps. But am waiting for quad-core before pulling my tubing apart.

Basically - every component plays a part in the WC loop - waterblock, pump, radiator, radiator fans and coolant. You can use the best block with a poor pump and get poor performance. And if you do decide to go the WC path - get a good spacious case.

Most people who gave up water cooling probably went with TT and gave up on WC because the new aircoolers with heatpipes (using WC principles in a way) are great. But with a proper WC setup ... the differences are obvious. And WC looks great when configured properly.

If you're going for a kit - then swiftech will be hard to beat. But if you truly want performance, go for mix and match. More expensive but can't be beat.

My loop hardly needs maintenance and have not even topped up the water in the last 14 months. If you then throw in GPU and chipset cooling - WC makes the best sense.

This post has been edited by aloy237: Jun 29 2007, 11:13 AM

ain't watercooling unstable??

In what way ? No issues for me so far. If you mean pump reliability .... the TT one sure sucks. But the commercial grade pumps like the MCP655 are great.

Define unstable?

OT : Is that a quote from Shooter in your sig?

Any reason why u said that?

swiftech coz it's easier to get... ther r many ppl selling in bulk...

I heard tat Gigabyte New Galaxy II water cooling set not bad.... try go search for it.....

Depends you compare it with which brand.. If TT Big Water, of course not bad at all but if other brand, Hahaha...

so much info in here..... which shop sells Swiftech in LYN?

Which shops?
None.

No shops at LYP sells Swiftech product.

none sell it? thats interesting.. who does anyways? does moderno sell it? Swiftech leads the polls.. but good if some ppl can actually take up selling job for swiftech products..

actually, the gigabytye galaxy II does perform rather well n simpler...

MetalZone

Yea it's better.
Better than Thermaltake Bigwater, yes.

Better than Swiftech?
Nope.

Better than Dangerden?
Nope.

hehe, yeah... that's rite, but for some ppl, galaxy might b a better option as price n supply is easier, but errr, i got mine swiftech from metalzone too... hehehe... however, the gap of rm1k to rm600 is not small... some ppl juz find it hard to fork out another rm400 there... so galaxy for them lor...