Hi, I am planning to get a 55 inch 4k TV from my credit card point redemption, the only option is between tcl 55p65 and phillips 55put6002. Any sifu can give some advice? Thanks a lot

The TCL has HDR and local dimming.

The Philip dont even have HDR. Specwise , the TCL has won. Frankly, i won't buy any TV with no HDR today.

But it is better to check out both model for yourself at retail store if you can.

I'd go for 4k TV... When you go black, you'll never go back

TCL brands never heard before... China one?
Its okay??

TCL is making quite a lot of storm in the US market, go search for reviews. It is also the world's 3rd largest TV makers by volume. Suprise! Philips probably nowhere near top ten.

Most of the shop I went didn't display tcl brands... Some says it is better than Samsung or even Sony, is that true?

I haven't seen it myself. But judging by the rave reviews all over the internet, i guess it's a safe bet. Probably not better than Samsung at the highest end OLED QLED whatever, but low to mid, i guess they trounce the rest in terms of picture quality and value for money. But they are not perfect either. Better read the reviews to understand yourself.

Good..
But I don't see the brand selling in Malaysia...
Maybe they just focus on big market.. That's why 3rd largest by volume 👍

TCL USA and TCL EUROPE & ASIA are of independent division .

The TVs they sold in these region are completely different models .
The ones they sold in Malaysia has terrible oob settings , no local dimming , cheap brightness ratings , no wide color space support.

There are no cheap bright TV in MY (<3k ).

The minimum you have to spend to the very least , get a taste of HDR is at Samsung's NU8000 's level , no TV cheaper than that in MY can do HDR properly.


The UHD Alliance has determined the following requirement for TV in order to showcase the HDR Effects , refer here
1)To bear the Ultra HD Premium™ logo, brightness and black level performance must range from either a minimum of 0.05–1,000 ‘nits’ ( for LCD TVs ) or 0.0005 –540 ‘nits’ ( for OLEDs )
2)To bear the Ultra HD™ Premium logo, signal input must use BT2020 color representation with display reproduction of more than 90% of P3 colors.
3)To bear the Ultra HD™ Premium logo, device manufacturers must meet a minimum display resolution of 3840 x 2160 pixels.
4)To bear the Ultra HD™ Premium logo. a minimum 10-bit color depth must be supported.

While there are actually more behind the context , but these are pretty much the basics.
In the US , they have Vizio Quantum and TCL 6 , in other places they have Sony's XF90 , sadly in Malaysia we have nothing .

This post has been edited by Convael: Apr 2 2019, 11:31 PM

Thx for ur reply, so how is ur comment about this model
TCL Series P65 55 Inch ATV 4K UHD Smart TV - 55P65
Because I want to redeem a TV from my credit card point, choose between tcl or top up to get
Samsung 55 inch NU7100 Smart 4K UHD TV - UA55NU7100KXXM

Currently this two is in my budget,no other brands.
Really need some advice from u bro

They are both the basic 4k TV models , expect their performance to be similar but between the two I would go for Samsung . They have infinitely better post sales service ( at least for TV ) than TCL .
TCL does not even has a HQ in MY .

Not to mention there have been a lot of complains on QC from TCL TVs . The only reason it has been winning so many awards in USA is because of the unbeatable low price . And they don't sell their award winning model outside of US.

This post has been edited by Convael: Apr 1 2019, 12:36 PM

Local TCL dont have local dimming...wah lau, kena tipu... But the model no they use is same with US model? Hmm...

TCL USA Award winning ROKU 6 series is coded R617 / R615 , the one they sold on Lazada and other online webs in MY is TCL xxP65US , which can be confusing . Especially when they are tagging TCL USA in the merchandise pictures.

This post has been edited by Convael: Apr 1 2019, 09:54 PM

Good info. Thks. I read elsewhere the return rates in US for TCL TVs also quite high, btw.

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What about the new RU8000?

Buy one ru8000 can buy 2.5 units of tcl. Different class.

LOL.

This post has been edited by puchongite: Apr 22 2019, 06:27 PM

Haven't got the chance to get my hands on one of these yet since they are relatively new release from Samsung.

I noticed the RU8000 has been upgraded to true 10 bits color display , instead of 8 bits + frc from its predecessor NU8000.
While the improvement between the two are debatable , perhaps the RU8000 will show better color tones transition ( aka colors banding / gradient) than NU8000 , for most people they are very subtle improvement really .

Beside that they don't look very different than NU8000 .


If a TV has issues they are usually not widely known until majority of the people get their hands on it , so if you decide to become an early adopter you need to be prepared to take the risk.

Or if you are in hurry to buy a TV , the last year NU8000 is still an incredible value for money .

This post has been edited by Convael: Apr 23 2019, 01:33 AM

When I type in the exact model TCL 55PU65US, I still find fairly good review from the internet. They mention about HDR 10 bit and 'micro dimming'.

https://www.91mobiles.com/hub/tcl-55p65us-review

The technical spec :-

https://tvnama.com/tv/tcl-55p65us/

Quite puzzled.

This post has been edited by puchongite: Apr 23 2019, 08:20 PM

Micro dimming (AKA UHD Dimming , CE Dimming , Frame Dimming ) is an algorithm , software controlled dimming process which is also found on the more affordable Samsung TVs such as NU7100 , NU7400 , MU6100 , MU6300 .

However , due to the absence of a proper hardware based zonal controls , it dimmed the entire screen at once including the highlights . As a whole , the process is counterproductive & not efficient. This is completely different than the Full-Array Local dimming system (hardware based) implemented on the US models . The US P6 models also support Dolby Vision out of the box but the PU65US doesn't.


TBH , there are a lot of misinformation in that review but if you look carefully .
The author is a mobile phones reviewer , not really a TV reviewer. There are a lot of generic , vague and incredibly wrong information in the review .

This post has been edited by Convael: Apr 24 2019, 04:51 AM