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bhuncet
post Mar 27 2019, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(river.sand @ Mar 27 2019, 05:54 PM)
VOIP canggih? When you make Whatsapp voice call, that is VOIP.
IP Phones still need PBX, which is like a server.
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yaaa. now using yeastar PBX
TSsaffront
post Mar 27 2019, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(river.sand @ Mar 27 2019, 05:54 PM)
VOIP canggih? When you make Whatsapp voice call, that is VOIP.
IP Phones still need PBX, which is like a server.
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VOIP need to pay monthly subscription, PBX just one off can last 15 years.
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post Mar 27 2019, 05:59 PM

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Existing system is using which one
The simplest is Panasonic. 4wire or 2 wire both can use.

Unless necessary don't go for ip. Keep phone system simple and independent. So when power failure your phone will not stop.
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post Mar 28 2019, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(saffront @ Mar 27 2019, 05:46 PM)
no la, only got 24 people. Some guy posted saying panasonic can go up to 100 so i ask how can go up to 100.

I think have to redo infrastructure. PBX system now is old analog one.
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Oh.

the better, and higher end PBX systems are modular. They can add components/modules to add additional lines.

Just contact a vendor and they will be able to quote you accordingly.


When I set up a new office last time, I just went to TM (since getting new office lines) and got a PBX system from them. TM also has PBX contractors and vendors.
harak_84
post Mar 28 2019, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(saffront @ Mar 27 2019, 05:32 PM)
Got pipul quote me 6 line and 32 hybrid extension. I hve no idea what this means. How to have up to 100 users?
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6 line means if people outside call your office...it will able to route to six lines even though it is called one number...and people inside able to make a call without waiting for other people to finish their call..

for 32 hybrid -means is able to support 32 users...

if u want up to 100 users/staff ask la to put extra panel to expand..

this thing you have to think future also cause better do it in one go instead add in later on...
- if your company have 20 staff better take 32 where the balance will left if i not mistaken 20+6 - 32 = 6 available line...
- if your management said we will expand and probably from 20 to 50 staff probably next year..or later.. take la 32+32 = 64 extension line...

it depends on budget and requirement on the management like my company wanted to see report who made call and support from the reliable resources so we pick the well know PBX system...it cost us 100k last 10 years ago...huhuhu...now not worth it... my advice get information from the management what and how the company will expand and what info or do you as admin require to control it or not..

if you are new or SME less then 20 people better take normal PBX no need to overkill take IP Phone...
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post Mar 28 2019, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(harak_84 @ Mar 28 2019, 02:14 PM)
6 line means if people outside call your office...it will able to route to six lines even though it is called one number...and people inside able to make a call without waiting for other people to finish their call..

for 32 hybrid -means is able to support 32 users...

if u want up to 100 users/staff ask la to put extra panel to expand..

this thing you have to think future also cause better do it in one go instead add in later on...
- if your company have 20 staff better take 32 where the balance will left if i not mistaken 20+6 - 32 = 6 available line...
- if your management said we will expand and probably from 20  to 50 staff probably next year..or later.. take la 32+32 = 64 extension line...

it depends on budget and requirement on the management like my company wanted to see report who made call and support from the reliable resources so we pick the well know PBX system...it cost us 100k last 10 years ago...huhuhu...now not worth it... my advice get information from the management what and how the company will expand and what info or do you as admin require to control it or not..

if you are new or SME less then 20 people better take normal PBX no need to overkill take IP Phone...
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thanks bro. This is the answer I'm looking for.
g0ldeneye
post Mar 29 2019, 05:41 PM

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I had set up for 20+ before, and ip pbx makes more sense. a budgetary price is:

1. 1 unit of A420 IP-PBX (4 FXO, 100 Extensions capable) = RM 1988
2. 22 units of ip phone = RM 180 x 22 = RM 4000 (3 already provided)
3. 1 unit TP-LINK TL-SL1226 24 + 2G Gigabit POE Switch 24-port = RM 510

u need 2 to 4 lines from telekom for inbound
u will use a voip provider/gateway for outbound via internet (approx RM 100 a month only, 1100 Min free, after 9 sen / min for call out, and cheaper overseas calls)
u will need LAN cable (if PC LAN cable already got already, they can share) else substantial cost here ...
u need consider maintenance and installation fee, minimum amounts,

So juz budget 6 to 7 K ... total.
It has been mostly hassle free, but beware hackers, coz network/internet based.

https://youtu.be/6eVEI_ORfmw



QUOTE(saffront @ Mar 28 2019, 02:45 PM)
thanks bro. This is the answer I'm looking for.
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post Mar 29 2019, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(g0ldeneye @ Mar 29 2019, 05:41 PM)
I had set up for 20+ before, and ip pbx makes more sense. a budgetary price is:

1. 1 unit of A420 IP-PBX (4 FXO, 100 Extensions capable) = RM 1988
2. 22 units of ip phone = RM 180 x 22 = RM 4000 (3 already provided)
3. 1 unit TP-LINK TL-SL1226 24 + 2G Gigabit POE Switch 24-port = RM 510

u need 2 to 4 lines from telekom for inbound
u will use a voip provider/gateway for outbound via internet (approx RM 100 a month only, 1100 Min free, after 9 sen / min for call out, and cheaper overseas calls)
u will need LAN cable (if PC LAN cable already got already, they can share) else substantial cost here ... 
u need consider maintenance and installation fee, minimum amounts,

So juz budget 6 to 7 K ... total.
It has been mostly hassle free, but beware hackers, coz network/internet based.

https://youtu.be/6eVEI_ORfmw
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some phones I still need to use telephone wire (RJ11), so need a gateway?

I think 19 IP phone and 12 analog altogether. Don't want to use VOIP, will stick to old TM
anakkk
post Mar 29 2019, 05:53 PM

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my co last time use panasonic
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post Mar 29 2019, 05:54 PM

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IPBX is good, but you need to host a server.
Can set up pick up calls direct from Computer or Phone as well (as long as on the network).
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post Mar 29 2019, 05:55 PM

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hmm..my office use ajaaya
g0ldeneye
post Mar 29 2019, 05:59 PM

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RJ 11 - needs a converter to IP, but less reliable.
is either ip or analogue, hard to mix.

but analogue system, you cant print reports and see logs of abusive users.


QUOTE(saffront @ Mar 29 2019, 05:49 PM)
some phones I still need to use telephone wire (RJ11), so need a gateway?

I think 19 IP phone and 12 analog altogether. Don't want to use VOIP, will stick to old TM
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g0ldeneye
post Mar 29 2019, 06:00 PM

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no need server, juz buy appliance.

QUOTE(cendolpulut @ Mar 29 2019, 05:54 PM)
IPBX is good, but you need to host a server.
Can set up pick up calls direct from Computer or Phone as well (as long as on the network).
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post Mar 29 2019, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(g0ldeneye @ Mar 29 2019, 05:59 PM)
RJ 11 - needs a converter to IP, but less reliable.
is either ip or analogue, hard to mix.

but analogue system, you cant print reports and see logs of abusive users.
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1 company quote me a420 IP PBX system and to use with Yeastar neogate ta1600 16fxs gateway to use for both IP phone and existing analog phones

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