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TongCN
post Aug 7 2024, 02:56 PM

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Hi TS Pac Lease, I have question regard top up vs re-finance

Details:
1) Property cost at RM370k (2012 value) and haven't done any valuation yet since then.
2) Effective Rate - BLR - 2.4% = 4.25%
3) Loan amount : RM252k
4) Outstanding loan : RM44k
5) Monthly repayment : Rm2.2k (roughly left 1 year + can finish as sometime i pay extra)

What's the pro of Top-Up if compare to refinance?

Judging that i might just wan to loan maybe 70k~100k for 5 years.


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post Aug 12 2024, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(Pac Lease @ Aug 12 2024, 09:55 AM)
Hi, top up loan is additional loan add on on top of your home loan. Hence, you will no need to refinance to other bank and just add on term loan account.

Pro is loan disbursement will be faster than you refinance to other bank. Also , lawyer fees will be cheaper because is base on new loan amount.
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Kenak reject for Top-Up cause my overall CC utilisation too high sweat.gif

Anyway to increase success rate ?
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post Aug 12 2024, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(Pac Lease @ Aug 12 2024, 10:13 AM)
If you are not urgent the get the cash out, then you may pay up your CC outstanding balance, try not to over 80% of total credit limit. thereafter can try to reapply.
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You mean each CC cannot exceed 80% of total credit limit (as i have multiple CC and few of them utilised the balance transfer 0% before which should have exceed sweat.gif )
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post Aug 12 2024, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(Pac Lease @ Aug 12 2024, 11:09 AM)
Certainly. So keep your CC usage lower than 80% then will be good for apply refinance loan.
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Ouch... guess need to re-check everything again before re-apply then.

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post Aug 13 2024, 08:19 AM

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QUOTE(croco_2002 @ Aug 12 2024, 02:55 PM)
Can try to increase your CC limit
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Bank Harimau very hard sweat.gif

Limit 15k since i first day has CC in this bank from 2010
Front Front back back applied limit increase i think 8 times d.
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post Aug 13 2024, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(Pac Lease @ Aug 13 2024, 10:24 AM)
thanks for your opinion however in his situation is difficult to increase his CC limit due to his usage is high.

The best time to increase CC limit is when you got your salary or income has been increase and also do not utilize your CC more than 50%.
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CC utilisation because mostly balance transfer 0% those tongue.gif


QUOTE(Deathscythe@@ @ Aug 13 2024, 10:25 AM)
Within 2 years, i got 2 credit limit approval. I think Harimau credit limit mostly based on Gross monthly salary x 3...
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Bank Harimau initially give me 15k when i started working that time already where my salary was 1.5k / month.

After another year later i bought my first house where as afterward whenever i request increase CCL, never approved.

But other banks just keep sending me msg and instantly approved, lolz ...
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post Aug 14 2024, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(Pac Lease @ Aug 14 2024, 10:16 AM)
bank also want to grab the business from you.Hence, other bank will auto increase the limit and wish you will apply the fast cash from them.
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Actually compare CC cash out (example 3.29% p.a. yesterday standard chartered called) vs re-finance (example 3.85% p.a.) at amount of RM30k.

Which one is better ?
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post Aug 14 2024, 01:17 PM

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Hmm ... so fixed rate CC cash out example make it clear

Fixed Rate : 2.99% p.a.
Loan : RM50,000
Tenure : 5 years
Total : RM57,475
Monthly payment : RM957.92

But if using refinance i think will have cheaper interest portion overall ?
If the interest charge per month

user posted image

Add-on: However, like others mentioned, these amount exclude legal fee, processing fee, valuation fee, admin charges.

So still CC win ?

This post has been edited by TongCN: Aug 14 2024, 01:28 PM
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post Aug 14 2024, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(victorian @ Aug 14 2024, 11:25 AM)
*Edit- typo

CC cash out is at fixed rate, housing loan is at effective rate. At this rate, interest for refinancing is cheaper.

But judging by the legal incurred for refinancing, it will not be worth it either.

Better look for 0% cash advance or 0% BT
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True, but those are short term sweat.gif

Somehow might wanna have a long term plan now for cash
Park additional cash split into investment example REIT and pray can out perform the interest charges ?
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post Aug 14 2024, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(victorian @ Aug 14 2024, 01:44 PM)
Fixed rate 3.29% you will pay RM8225 interest over 5 years.
Effective rate 3.85% you will pay RM5047 interest over 5 years.

so which one is cheaper?
you will never beat the the return if you cash out from credit card.

safest bet is housing loan, it is one of the cheapest loans out there
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Except right now i cant go for top-up / refinance method as CC overspent sweat.gif

But the RM5,047 (Effective rate) method not yet include those fees, right ?
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post Aug 14 2024, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(Rinth @ Aug 14 2024, 04:17 PM)
if take 0 moving cost 4.25%, means no legal fee etc etc, interest still at RM 5589 only vs fixed rate RM 8225
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What's this ?
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post Aug 15 2024, 09:11 AM

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QUOTE(Rinth @ Aug 14 2024, 05:05 PM)
some bank bear your moving cost up to RM 15k, but higher interest rate. normally at 4.2-4.25%
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QUOTE(Pac Lease @ Aug 14 2024, 07:09 PM)
Zero moving cost mean bank help you pay for the legal fees and valuation fees. Besides this fees, there also got some extra fees that you need to bear for example loan account maintainace fees like RM 10 per month for flexi loan, fire insurance, ATM card fees.
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Oh, like the the Standard Chartered Mortgage One but only for certain location sweat.gif
Dunno can have some exclusion for outside those zone

https://www.sc.com/my/loans/mortgageone/
https://av.sc.com/my/content/docs/my-scbmb-...ges-booklet.pdf
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post Aug 15 2024, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(Pac Lease @ Aug 15 2024, 09:25 AM)
Besides than the fees charge, you also may standby time for valuer to visit your home for inspection and also visit to lawyer firm to sign the loan agreement.

Compare the CC cash out, just perform verification then maybe on next day you can receive the fund and you can straight away use the fund.

That is why I mention CC cash out is the best option for your scenario.
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True. Probably wait for low interest rate offer thumbsup.gif

Hopefully has 1.99% (dreaming but might happen) or ranging 2.59% ~ 2.89%
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post Oct 3 2024, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(Pac Lease @ Aug 15 2024, 09:39 AM)
good luck ya.
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So in the end i through this Maybank relief : https://www.maybank2u.com.my/maybank2u/mala...ief_scheme.page

And apply to pull my current outstanding from 2 years left to 5 years and lower down my monthly instalment.

The bank give me same rate still and the monthly instalment lower down by 65%
Original 2,200
New one 760

After done some calculation, the interest macam add-on extra 1.5k overall.

 

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