Hi...I would like to find a digital lockset for my house main door...thinking to get one with app control n fingerprint

How abt this model??
https://s.lazada.com.my/s.Leqi

Or any better model??


Thanks.

Please verify again with the seller.
I'm doubtful if this lock supports bluetooth or wifi without additional module.
It seems that zwave module is given only.

anyway, bluetooth is pretty useless for digital lock.
unlocking via fingerprint, numpad or tag is way faster.

also, if you have grille installed, you may consider to get two digital locks in total.

im using 4109 + 424g for my grill. without app/bluetooth but the fingerprint is fine

Anyone use this before??



US $368.39 5％ Off | Xiaomi Youpin M2 Smart Lock Automatic Fingerprint Sliding Lock Fully Automatic Push-Pull Smart Remote Control For Mijia APP

https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/csjkBHoy

Xiaomi products are at good value for home iot range but frequently very buggy and unreliable.
For door lock, I prefer to look for other more reputable brands.

This post has been edited by Snoy: Mar 23 2019, 11:31 PM

Thanks Snoy for your advices.

Do u any brand/model to recommend??

How abt Yale 4109+??

Please answer these questions by yourself before we can recommend something.

1. Do you want digital lock for both wooden door and grille? Or merely wooden door?

2. Please determine if your wooden door is using mortise or cylindrical lock? And how about your grille type?
If you don't know how to differentiate, please take some pictures of your existing doors/grille. (front/back/side)

3. What is your ranking for unlocking method?
- Fingerprint
- card
- physical key
- Bluetooth
- Remote app unlock
- Remote control (RF)
Please rank from most important to the least important one.
There isn't any lock having all these.
If I were you, I'll rank Bluetooth as lowest because it's way too slow and potentially draining battery.

This post has been edited by Snoy: Mar 25 2019, 11:03 AM

tbh, digital lock and grill, isn't it a bit redundant?
Because i was thinking about doing this... but it defeats the purpose of having the convenience of digital lock

Why is it redundant?

Today, I have both wooden door and grille installed with digital locks.
It is extremely convenient.
Also, I feel safer for not having to look for key to unlock my grille in the event of emergency.

because i was thinking having digital lock is convenient. so having a grill infront defeats the convenience purpose.
that aside, what digital lock do you use for your grill?

Thanks Snoy for yr advices.

1. Only wooden door for my main door, no grille installed.

2. Mortise

3. Fingerprint, app unlock, Bluetooth, card, key

Thanks.

I also saw this digital lock online, it can be linked with smart home system. Pls advices weather this brand is trustable. Thanks.

When I'm home, wooden door is always open.
Grill is always there to give me a sense of security while acting fresh air inlet.

As I said, my grille has digital lock too.
Hence, convenience level is even better.

I'm using Gateman Z10-IH for my grille which is merely quarter price of similar yale lock.

Yes, the Orvibo looks nice but I think need to use in conjunction with their Smart Hub, total price work out not cheap for a chinese brand.

anybody installed this Mijia Smart Lock? It's the cheapest I found. Previously selling only Rm999

https://www.lazada.com.my/products/original...3JvLvo&search=1

These smart locks, they cant lock by themselves right?

This post has been edited by idoblu: Mar 28 2019, 08:07 AM

Mortise lock is a bit tricky because of the inconsistent striker plate size.
Better if you can find a lock for compatible length of striker plate (same or longer).
You may need to hire someone to install the lock for you.

For your unlocking method ranking, the well known lock brands (Gateman, Yale, Schlage, etc) may not have the model for you.
You may only look for China brands.
Even though I haven't tried, but you may consider "Loock" digital lock.
China brand but being sold internationally in official channel.
Xiaomi did rebrand one of their models into Mijia ecosystem but the quality level may be different...

Things to take notes:
1. Some digital locks can "speak". Please make sure if you can get a English model if you don't prefer Chinese/Korea.

2. For some Korea digital locks especially the push/pull types, please make sure the push/pull direction matches you door.
In Malaysia, the door is normally "Push to open" from outside.
In Korea, the door is normally "Pull to open" from outside.
Just make sure you can buy a correct version.


No experience on Xiaomi lock. Do try at your own risk.
Please read the reply above and make sure the striker plate length is compatible.
Sometimes for "mortise" lock, if we modify the door for it, then we may have to stick with it again if it spoiled unless we change the door.

That's why I always prefer to buy lock from reputable brand with compatible size where I can still find a temporary mechanical replacement lock easily if digital lock failed.
I couldn't afford to have 1 day without a lock in my house. :-)

Snoy thanks for the write up. Sigh why locks are not standardize?

Better avoid Digital lock if possible, really easy to hack. no skill required



This post has been edited by MewMeow: Apr 2 2019, 01:57 PM

I thought in order to have this kind of digital lock, your main door must be thick enough in order to install this digital lock.

Please share your thoughts

Guys, dont mean to hijack the thread but does anyone have any good (or bad) experience with this Samsung "push/pull" system?

I'm leaning towards using tag instead of fingerprint/code.

Digital or conventional locks are using similar lock mechanism.
Digital lock is merely having a motor to automate lock and unlock operations.
Hence, the security level is comparable to conventional lock.


For Samsung push/pull lock, it's safer to get it from local supplier but the price is significantly higher.
There are many cheaper "imported set" but the risk is the pull/push direction may be incompatible with Malaysian's door. Please make sure you check this.
And there are also higher risk of faulty mainboard in older model... not sure the new one.

im using ymf40 so far so good

Yes, you're right. using similar lock mechanism. But Digital lock is using digital way to detect & scan for authorization. Hence it doesn't even required thief to touch on the lock mechanism to by pass. They only need to use equipment to fake / confused the digital receiver to open the lock.

Did you even watch the Youtube video? Most of the digital lock can be opened with the device under minutes.

Just sharing to anyone who plan to buy Digital lock that the technology is still immature yet, its still pretty much vulnerable compared to traditional lock.

This post has been edited by MewMeow: Apr 4 2019, 12:14 PM

Thanks for the tip, the unit should come with some kind of warranty.... so likely i will get it locally. Unless we are talking about 50% price difference...

I hope the video is in English.
From what I understood, they use some sorts of EMP device to disrupt digital lock circuit.
It's up to whether the lock will default to "unlock" state after being disrupted to "reboot" or "in faulty state".
The success rate is still unknown for every digital lock.

I may consider to buy a unit for testing later. :-)
Thank you for sharing.


Please google around. It may still be possible with more than 50% off for imported unit of some models.
Although mine is not Samsung, but I got my gateman at 30% price of what Yale Malaysia is charging. similar front but different back module.

Actually its a toss up for me between Samsung and Yale. Ofcourse Yale is more famous for their locks (I even have a yale safe)...

But the Push/Pull looks to be... user friendly to me...

No idea how the two brands compare, would you have any tips/thoughts on them?

Yale digital locks in Malaysia are re-branded from Gateman Korean.
Don't be surprise if the Yale Malaysia and Yale USA digital locks are incompatible.
Essentially, we are comparing two Korean brands here, Samsung vs Gateman (Yale Malaysia).
Of course, Yale version has some customized versions for Malaysia market like cylindrical and grille types but the core is still Korean.

I don't have a Samsung digital lock... no comment about its robustness.
I'm using a Gateman Z10-IH for some years and it has never given any single problem... not even once. Of course, your mileage may differ.

Oh, i didnt know that.

Does Yale malaysia comes with decent warranty?

Otherwise I can buy Yale form US, i go there at least 3 times a year anyway, can bring back a few set of locks hehehe

This one. Simple and easy

https://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?id=582969..._u=41m7vfla5cc2

Hi, is it possible for you to share the photo of your grille that using the Gateman Z10-IH?
A seller told me that if want to install the Z10, hand must not able to go thru the grille, else hand can just go to the back and press a button to unlock it.
And do you mind to pm your seller or installer? Thanks

The seller is correct, Z10-IH is not designed for grille.
There are two ways to go around it.

1. Install a enclosure box to protect your lock.
- Many Singapore houses use this way. Please check hardwarezone forum to know more.
- Cons: Additional cost for the box and additional remote control is needed to unlock from inside.

2. Use a security mesh grille (mine)
- https://www.panther-asia.com/our-gallery/
- Cons:
- There must be a bar which has enough height and thickness for lock installation.
- costly

I'm on second option because my original grille was old and rusty.
I changed the grille with digital lock together.

You may still buy a Yale "gate" version.
This is specially designed for Asian grille.

Cost comparison:
Option #1 < Yale gate version <= Option #2.


I paid about RM500 for digital lock and RM1700 for security mesh grille (3' x 7').

Thank you for the explanation.

Hi Snoy, how did you manage to install smart lock in your grille? I called the Samsung authorised dealer and enquired
whether the locksmith can insatll samsung smart lock in aluminium door with same thickness as wooden door. He said no way.

You should not ask Samsung.
Please check with your aluminium door vendor.
I had seen a setup from mydelux aluminium security door by using Kaadas digital lock.

Anyway, as I said earlier, my security mesh grille is installed with gateman z10-ih.
It is not the typical grille that we normally see in malaysia houses.
Please google for panther protect security mesh.

This post has been edited by Snoy: May 29 2023, 09:57 AM

Try This cheaper option from Philips. Philips is a reputable brand for lock too

https://s.lazada.com.my/s.gcIsW

Are you the seller?
This is the 3years+ old thread.

Such Philips model is still a rebranded Kaadas.
I'm using one higher end Philips model which is good.
Even if we can get the unit with few hundreds cheaper price from China but I still opt for local unit for the installation service and warranty.

hi bro im interesred in this model as well.

But since this model is rebranded Kaadas, i shall explore more option from Kaadas. Any idea how does the after sales services for Kaadas Malaysia? My neighbour just installed Philips, their service quite fast for installation..yet to observe how well they response when comes to problem.